Watched the game last night, and at 18 Rooney blew me away.

Looks like this lad has a promising career ahead of him.

what did anyone else think?

His finishing was superb. He's so confident it's unreal. Long may it continue!:thumbsup:

it was so good to watch, goals everywhere, and Rooney, what a guy!!!:clap: :clap:

He had an electrifying start to his Man Utd career. However, I will not make predictions for the future based on one match against the local kebab shop. :o

What did I miss ?? I don't follow the footy that often :help:

I see that Mr Freeman has come up trumps again and managed to get Rooney off 3 driving charges.

Just hope he can sustain it. There's the famous quote about genius "a candle that burns at both ends burns twice as bright but burns twice as quickly".
Thinking of George Best, Gazza, Maradonna etc etc.

Rooney is a legend in the making BUT we must pause for a moment and consider how the VERY young mr Rooney is treated.
If he is playing every game, week in week out, he could possibly go the same way as a certain mr Owen and 'Burn out'.
I think Alex Ferguson is wise enough to not play Rooney all the time, and therefore, one day he will be THE legend of world football

Rooney did not have a good match last night against Boro,poor kid must have been wiped out from getting the superb hat trick in europe earlier in the week.But Besty,Pele did not have a great game everytime.This kid will be a world beater in a few years.He is exciting to watch & I have seen many great players over the last 40 odd years,he is right up there with the best & rightly so.

See if he has the same record as micheal owen then eh lads when rooney is 24,He is a bit overrated for me he was poor vs wales and boro and rarely shined for everton,vs wales he lost the ball cheaply gave it away with his typical poor passing,and the cut back when defoe,owen,becks was stood waiting dont get me started :( i'll just keep a eye on the over weight overrated KID

Originally posted by kirky25
See if he has the same record as micheal owen then eh lads when rooney is 24,He is a bit overrated for me he was poor vs wales and boro and rarely shined for everton,vs wales he lost the ball cheaply gave it away with his typical poor passing,and the cut back when defoe,owen,becks was stood waiting dont get me started :( i'll just keep a eye on the over weight overrated KID

I presume you're being sarcastic :D

Hopefully Young Wayne will be able to keep away from major injury at least until the age of 24. 'Fraid I think Micky Owen's career is on the fade - when the tabloid rumours about him joining Middlesborough start circulating (and they will), you'll know he's finished :(

i think micky proved he is still a high quality player vs wales.he scored 20+ every season in premiership when fit and well,he has scored on the highest level in the biggest games remember argentina and brazil games,fa cup final vs arsenal etc etc etc he will 100% score on wednesday night too,dont think he will go to boro thats ridiculous he is a world class player they just get the old guys has beens etc

Originally posted by Greenback
I presume you're being sarcastic :D

Hopefully Young Wayne will be able to keep away from major injury at least until the age of 24. 'Fraid I think Micky Owen's career is on the fade - when the tabloid rumours about him joining Middlesborough start circulating (and they will), you'll know he's finished :(

Four in four games for Real Madrid, wow that's some fading star.

Originally posted by owdlad
Four in four games for Real Madrid, wow that's some fading star.

i could not actually believe this when i saw it on sky this morning!!

perhaps he has turned a corner, only time will tell!!

maybe going to madrid MAY push start his career again

Rooney is good but weren't we saying all this about giggs (and beckham) at one point?
Now don't get me wrong even as a Liverpool supporter I concede they are two very good players - but better than Pele, Marradona etc?
I doubt he has the tempremant judging by the times he seems to lose his rag. He had a pretty poor disciplinery record at Everton too. I Suspect refs. will get on his back, defenders will wind him up and his career will be be small patches of genius with huge gaps of injuries and suspensions....

Didn't Wayne Rooney play the part of Shrek?

Originally posted by Robbie_Lovin
i could not actually believe this when i saw it on sky this morning!!

perhaps he has turned a corner, only time will tell!!

maybe going to madrid MAY push start his career again

I hope so, it's good to see how he never gets wound up like some of those other over paid prima donnas, he plays with.

Originally posted by Killian
Didn't Wayne Rooney play the part of Shrek?

No he didn't. The reverse is true, Shreck plays Rooney. :D

I used to like rooney but since joining man u he become very dirty and selfish which i noticed during the wales match
i am currently watching the spain game and svens taken him off before he gets sent off !!

But i cant deny he's a fantastic player i just think moving to man u so young was a bad move to nurture his ability.

u know when you start a thread, and then weeks later it comes back to haunt you?

.............................well rooney was awful, the only saving grace was that he didnt look out of place stood next to the other 10 england players!

It was quite a mortifying show of petulant, bad tempered behaviour.

I had wondered whether there'd been some trouble in the tunnel before the start (OK...Mrs P. suggested that), but it appears not.

And if it was bad on the pitch, the removal and throwing down of the armband was dreadful.

No matter how good a player he can be, he will never be great until he learns to control his temper and show respect and humility.

Joe

He definately needed to calm down in the England V Spain game. He just ignored Beckham who was trying to tell him to calm down. But Sven made it worse by substituting him and drawing even more attention to him. But Wayne throwing down the black armband was awful, I think he needs to apologise for that.

the reason for it was the spainish players winding him up all week in the press.

i dont agree with what he did, but they knew that if you wind him up he wont play as he'll spend his time trying to get payback

He's a great role model isn't he ?...basically just a talented lout.

That show of childish spite towards the memory of one of the games' best ambassadors shows what a wretched yobbo he is.

We (the fans) at Old Trafford wound him up last season when Everton played United (or at least I think it was last season). He got booked and then Moyes substituted him to jeers from the crowd. (I know it's kind of ironic that he now plays for United).

So it appears that he still lets himself get wound up and hasn't learned. How long is it going to take for him to realise that he's better off putting the ball in the back of the net in reply to criticism and attempts to wind him up?

Originally posted by some_boy
the reason for it was the spainish players winding him up all week in the press.

i dont agree with what he did, but they knew that if you wind him up he wont play as he'll spend his time trying to get payback

Oh please.....

If I was being paid what he gets, feted in the press and had such a future ahead of me, the scribblings of a bunch of Spanish players in the press would maybe induce me to giggle and wave a wad of cash in their face, shortly before playing a blinder to prove them wrong.

Behaving like a lout just plays in to their hands.

He's playing big boys games, with big boys money. He needs to get used to playing by big boys rules.

Joe

Originally posted by JoePritchard
Oh please.....

If I was being paid what he gets, feted in the press and had such a future ahead of me, the scribblings of a bunch of Spanish players in the press would maybe induce me to giggle and wave a wad of cash in their face, shortly before playing a blinder to prove them wrong.

Behaving like a lout just plays in to their hands.

Exactly, when you are being paid that much you have to take some crap surely, can't just be easy sailing all the way through his career.

I personally believe it was a mistake, for Rooney's sake, paying 25 million for him because that will hang over his head putting a lot of pressure on him to live up to that price tag...

Originally posted by Greybeard
He's a great role model isn't he ?...basically just a talented lout.

That show of childish spite towards the memory of one of the games' best ambassadors shows what a wretched yobbo he is.

Impressive to be spewing such bile at a 19-year-old kid. :loopy:

He gets wound up sometimes, and could have got sent off against Spain– so what? He's 19 years of age. 19. He just needs to control his temper a little better, that's all. The throwing of the armband was pure frustration, and had no meaning behind it, as anyone who knows anything about football realises.

I wish people would stop trying to destroy the most talented kid we've produced since Gascoigne. It's an English disease, and a detestable one at that.

Originally posted by Greenback


I wish people would stop trying to destroy the most talented kid we've produced since Gascoigne. It's an English disease, and a detestable one at that.

Actually, the guy's doing quite a good job at self-destruction himself.

He needs looking after, but really he should be aware that he needs to show some restraint.

I hate to see people lose their rag un-necessaily in public - it's embarrassing for those of us watching and ultimately makes the person doing it look like a petulant brat.

Anyone in the public eye in the UK is going to get a kicking from the media at the earliest opportunity - I believe that someone (Claire Rayner???) called it the 'Tall Poppy' syndrome. People like Rooney need reminding that they're constantly on display and consequently need to watch their backs and behave. They are given, materially, a large amount for their skills, and I'm afraid they need to realise that part of the price for the goodies is that they can have it taken away in an instant.

Joe

Originally posted by Greenback
Impressive to be spewing such bile at a 19-year-old kid. :loopy:

He gets wound up sometimes, and could have got sent off against Spain– so what? He's 19 years of age. 19. He just needs to control his temper a little better, that's all. The throwing of the armband was pure frustration, and had no meaning behind it, as anyone who knows anything about football realises.

I wish people would stop trying to destroy the most talented kid we've produced since Gascoigne. It's an English disease, and a detestable one at that.

Michael Owen was 18 when he started playing regularly for England but he managed to control his temper and not behave like a little thug. The fact is that Rooney is a rough thug who probably used to beat people up if they dared to tackle him during lunchtime at school. At 19, he should've grown out of it, but it's clear he's not capable of handling the pressure, fame and fortune like Owen was (think brothels as well as overall thuggery).

Originally posted by t020
Michael Owen was 18 when he started playing regularly for England but he managed to control his temper and not behave like a little thug. The fact is that Rooney is a rough thug who probably used to beat people up if they dared to tackle him during lunchtime at school. At 19, he should've grown out of it, but it's clear he's not capable of handling the pressure, fame and fortune like Owen was (think brothels as well as overall thuggery).


Rooney is a rough thug...

Quit bitching about him all of you-
Could you all do any better??

He is about 50 times better than Michael Owen and is going to be a hell of a lot better than that loser Gazza or sorry -G8- what a prick!

You were all behind Rooney at Euro 2004 and now you all seem to be sticking a knife into the guys back at every opportunity... of course he will make mistakes-- he is only young of course... the same can be said of our mecurial england captain can it not.

Beckham- cheats on his wife and then lies about it.... now is that a good role model for your kids??

Remember that the next time you bitch about Rooney wont you.

AND in the heat of the moment out there in spain in that hostile environment - I dont think any of the players thought for one second about Emlyn Hughes... and I certainly dont think Wayne thought about throwing the armband on the floor in disgust for one second- its in the heat of the moment... let it go.

Originally posted by t020
Michael Owen was 18 when he started playing regularly for England but he managed to control his temper and not behave like a little thug. The fact is that Rooney is a rough thug who probably used to beat people up if they dared to tackle him during lunchtime at school. At 19, he should've grown out of it, but it's clear he's not capable of handling the pressure, fame and fortune like Owen was (think brothels as well as overall thuggery).

What's with the "thug" thing? Is there any evidence for the accusation of how he behaved at school? Or is it just that this is presumed behaviour for a working class kid from a council estate?

Originally posted by t020
Michael Owen was 18 when he started playing regularly for England but he managed to control his temper and not behave like a little thug. The fact is that Rooney is a rough thug who probably used to beat people up if they dared to tackle him during lunchtime at school. At 19, he should've grown out of it, but it's clear he's not capable of handling the pressure, fame and fortune like Owen was (think brothels as well as overall thuggery).

He was brought up by Liverpool and was not sold for a dirt load of money and a high paid salary.

Rooney will be a good player but not yet.

It must be a first that I agree with t020 :) but I was actually going to post something about Michael Owen as well. Also Ryan Giggs started playing very young. So it is possible to be young and still behave in a sporting and professional manner.

I know Rooney is young but I'm hoping his attitude improves as he gets older. I don't think anyone doubts his footballing talent but it'd be a shame to see it go to waste by being substituted because he can't control his temper. He's not much use on the bench is he?

Just like to say that if Rooney is such a thug..
he wouldnt just have won the best young player award would he!

Well done wayne mate!

What do you think about the 3 match ban? Does he deserve it?

Originally posted by Lickszz
What do you think about the 3 match ban? Does he deserve it?

of course he does, he not have been so stupid

The Bolton player has been charge also though hasn't he? This is what I don't understand. It looked to me as though the Bolton player over reacted. Rooney has been charged but what has the Bolton player been charged with?

Ben Haim was charged with improper conduct for gamesmanship not sure what the punishment is but I think it's just a fine and no ban.