Evenin again

still feeling ponderous. adverts for 'gourmet' food that will titillate the taste-buds of your cat.....ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????

its bad enough that we have rows and rows of pet food in our supermarkets when there are people starving in the world....but gourmet....please!

does anyone else think it is sick that we feed cats and dogs 'luxury' food when people elsewhere are sharing a loaf of bread between a family of five?

makes my head spin.....WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD????

an angry
Sol

:rant:

I don't see a problem with it at all. Are you suggesting that people shouldn't have pets, and give their money to charity?

I don't see a problem with it at all. Are you suggesting that people shouldn't have pets, and give their money to charity?

........yes. :D

I don't see a problem with it at all. Are you suggesting that people shouldn't have pets, and give their money to charity?

seriously, people should keep pets, but realise that that is exactly what they are...a commodity.

to spend extortionate amounts of money on 'special' food for tiddles, in order to stuff him even more than his fat ass can carry out the catflap......well.....its obscene.

frankly.

but its not really gourmet is it!:P

So in future we should send the crap that is in pet food to feed Africa?

So in future we should send the crap that is in pet food to feed Africa?

no, that would be silly :).

but something needs to shift.

this current situation just ain't right.

no sir.

Evenin again

still feeling ponderous. adverts for 'gourmet' food that will titillate the taste-buds of your cat.....ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????

its bad enough that we have rows and rows of pet food in our supermarkets when there are people starving in the world....but gourmet....please!

does anyone else think it is sick that we feed cats and dogs 'luxury' food when people elsewhere are sharing a loaf of bread between a family of five?

makes my head spin.....WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD????

an angry
Sol

:rant:

It is a bit i suppose, but to be fair if i was eating something nice myself i might share a bit with a pet, although i wouldnt buy a purpose "gourmet" meal for them. Also for people to be consuming too much, which i think is a far greater problem in terms of food wastage and unneccasary use.
If theres x people in world and y resources everyone should be entitled to x/y +or- z. z depending on the person, so prisoners would get nothing and starve and ghandi would get double, but it ain't going to happen unfortunately.
To make the world a better place we need a gourmet restaurant which cooks a meal based on what meat you provide like dog/cat/pet fed on "gourmet" food/cow that drank beer. Where you take said animal to be slaughtered (humanely), and prepared as a meal for you shortly afterwards.
It would revolutionise fast FRESH food, and allow you to put your pet in a better place than down bottom t'garden

no, that would be silly :).

but something needs to shift.

this current situation just ain't right.

no sir.

Right. What are you going to do about it?

Seriously - if you want things to change, become an agent for that change. I buy high quality food for the cats, just as I buy high quality food for myself. Yup, life's tough in Africa and I give a reasonable amount to charity each month, some of which goes towards overseas aid.

I'm sorry, but I don't regard all the problems of the world as my fault. I'll help to a level that I feel comfortable, but to be blunt I'm not going to beat myself up because I'm feeding my cats well.

Right. What are you going to do about it?

dunno...rant!!!

that's the first step........:)


I'm sorry, but I don't regard all the problems of the world as my fault. I'll help to a level that I feel comfortable, but to be blunt I'm not going to beat myself up because I'm feeding my cats well.

wasn't pointing the finger at you joe, and your feline's sheba dinners :).

just makes me feel uneasy when i see these adverts on tv.....big fat cat, already overfed, having foreplay (almost) with its owner and getting a heavily processed and expensive dinner in return.

it irks me.

All tinned and dried pet food is the same krud anyway.. just with different labels on it

Do not be fooled by the advertising/media hype!

Do you all know what exactly is in the 'gourmet' / 'regular' pet food?

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dunno...rant!!!

that's the first step........:)



wasn't pointing the finger at you joe, and your feline's sheba dinners :).

just makes me feel uneasy when i see these adverts on tv.....big fat cat, already overfed, having foreplay (almost) with its owner and getting a heavily processed and expensive dinner in return.

it irks me.

hehehe....oddly enough mine won't eat Sheba or any of that stuff, anyway. :)

And mine are pretty sane cats. I feed them and they STILL ignore me. :D

All tinned and dried pet food is the same krud anyway.. just with different labels on it

Do not be fooled by the advertising/media hype!

Do you all know what exactly is in the 'gourmet' / 'regular' pet food?

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Yup.

Terrible, isn't it. But, the cats are still alive. :)

I honestly don't think a cat would be able to tell teh difference between "gourmet" or "regular" cat food anyway.

As long as he/she's been fed and watered that's all they're bothered about.

But then again, I know nothing about cats, so I'm probably wrong :loopy:

All tinned and dried pet food is the same krud anyway.. just with different labels on it

Do not be fooled by the advertising/media hype!

Do you all know what exactly is in the 'gourmet' / 'regular' pet food?

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probably quite a bit of ash,
an id imagine eating ash is about 20 times worse than smoking

But, the cats are still alive. :)
:rolleyes: oh well thats a relief

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Whats with all these anti-cat threads tonight? :rolleyes:

Why should our cats be expected to eat the same cheap cat food every day? I don't think it will make any difference to starving people in other countries!

More expensive food is generally healthier than the very cheap food (which is generally made up of a very high percentage of ash or other crap).

We vary the brands of cat food we buy as our cats get bored of having the same brand after a while, but we also cook them "human" food as well, such as vegetables and mushrooms.

we bought a tin of Gourmet food for my grans cat as he was refusing to eat anything else and this was a last resort. In all honesty it was quite posh!!
It has full prawns and things in it and he turned his nose up at it too..

My cat get dry food with the odd tin of tuna here and there and my dogs get dry food mixed with pasta or fresh vegs that i prepare, but i dont see why anyone should not buy this stuff. Its thier choice and whats it got to do with people who can afford or who cannot have access to food?? you suggesting we post them the gourmet food?

But then again, I know nothing about cats, so I'm probably wrong :loopy:

If you were to meet our cats, you would see that you are most definitely correct in that you certainly are wrong! :)

my dogs get dry food mixed with pasta
Are they overweight?

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Actually my Dad used to feed our flatcoated retrievers on Pasta regularly the night before taking them to weekend dog shows... Apparently it was good for them or something.

Sadly we lost both Max and Bonnie to cancer in early 1998, nothing to do with teh Pasta though, apparently flatcoats are prone to cancer, especially at their age, Max was 13 (91 in human years) and Bonnie was about 9 or 10 iirc (63-70 in human years).

Are they overweight?

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no why do you ask?

:rolleyes: oh well thats a relief

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You obviously have some axe to grind. Actually, I do read the side of the containers, and get the stuff my vets suggest for me. Having kept cats for twenty years, I sort of think I look after them as well as a domestic cat can be cared for.

Seriously, if you have a point - make it. Otherwise it's just coming over as trolling, I'm afraid. :)

Some years ago I was offered a job as Works Engineer in a pet food factory, (which I did not take up thankfully)
On the tour of the factory, I was informed that due to the regulations all the pet food met standard which made it legal for human consumption.
I have never tasted pet food, but at least we know in the final desperate days, we have something for the stewpot.:thumbsup:

Seriously, if you have a point - make it.
My point being that your comment "they are still alive" bears no relevance to the ingredients in the food they are fed. A bit like saying, being beaten as a child did me no harm - I'm still here to tell the tale!
If we look at the listed ingredients they say things like "meat and animal derivatives". Just how ambiguous is that?
Could it be any less specific? Non specific for a reason, as if you knew what 'quality' sources you were feeding your animals, you might stop to reconsider.

Veterinarians are classically not fully informed in pet nutrition - don't let their title fool you! Their recommendations are typically as a result of in-house promotions put there by the manufacturer... not from any further wisdom they might have discovered independently.

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Some years ago I was offered a job as Works Engineer in a pet food factory, (which I did not take up thankfully)
On the tour of the factory, I was informed that due to the regulations all the pet food met standard which made it legal for human consumption.
I have never tasted pet food, but at least we know in the final desperate days, we have something for the stewpot.:thumbsup:

i have tasted both cat & dog food & fish flakes too. i wouldnt want to eat either of those things all the time but they arnt as bad as they seam. wet food has lots of grissle in it but buiscites i could eat on a regualr basis which i did as a child, not soo much now tho, now the dare stage has passed.

My cats can't bear supermarket's own brand food, they stick their nose up in the air and demand gourmet!

x

The OP cannot possibly be inferring that it is wrong to properly care for an animal you have in your care surely? i think it depends what he means by gourmet food, as people have said cat food does tend to be full of rubbish... but at least it is nutritionaly balanced rubbish for a cat :hihi: , in respect of gourmet food if people were to feed all meat or even human food to a cat long term it would not be good for it.
I think that starving people in the world are a seperate issue that won't be solved by not feeding pets properly..... the cat adoration ads are really stupid :hihi: .

i feed my pooch kobe beef and duck foie gras. he likes me.

...even I don't eat gourmet food so if I were to have a cat or dog then they will be eating normal cat/dog food.

gourmet?! Why? Dogs and cats eat their own sick, lick their private bits etc. so I reckon the last thing on their mind is how nice their food tastes. Just get them normal food!!

I feed my cat a can of salmon each week. Its a treat for him, the rest of the time he gets ordinary cat food from cans and the biscuit things plus scraps. Theres no way would I pay over the top prices for grub for him though.

I don't buy gourmet cat food I find it a complete waste of money as it's much cheaper to give them a tin of tuna out of the cupboard or some meat that's nearly past it's sell by as a bit of a treat.

My cats are really my mum's so she chooses their regular cat food, my dogs are mine and I choose a high quality, low protein diet for them, with as much of the right stuff in as possible.

For treats, I will buy a pack of liver for about 44p and bake it for them, then I know what they're eating. They get regular bits of offal and bones to keep them healthy and it's far cheaper to buy them a nice raw bone to chomp on than one of those extortionately priced gourmet tins that wouldn't fill up a rat.

However, some people only have their pets in their life. Their pets provide them with their only pleasure in life and they want to spend their money on the gourmet foods. Don't see what's wrong with that to be honest.

Yes there are people starving in Africa but why then do so many people have posh cars that cost a bomb and take up fortunes of petrol instead of donating all the money they could save by having a different car to charity.

No - I dont think it's sick at all, I just wouldn't choose to buy expensive gourmet foods when my dogs and cats have a healthy diet and love a bit of meat/cheese on the side.

i have tasted both cat & dog food & fish flakes too:wow:
I did try Bonio when I was about eight.. but.. :P

::: shakes head and wonders what goes on in some peoples heads :::

twoddle pure n simple :loopy: as for all the space supermarkets give upto pet foods, what do you want to see there instead ? some more food for your cuboard/fridge or just emptiness.

my cats have whiskers meat and bisciuts and anything else i care to give them, they even had a prawn cocktail with us at christmas. if we have a joint of meat they always have some, they share my KFC and lick the cream off the top of my trifle :hihi:

so would it be ok for me to call you sick for wasting money on luxuries ?? internet/takeaways/beer/tv blaaa blaa blaa :P

Cat food should be limited to 2 flavours "Mouse" or "Rat falvour"

Dog food the same "Cat flavour" or "Postmans arse"

Such commercial kiddollogy - a tax on stupidity I say!

*shakes a stick at the pc

don kiddicks arse flavour would tempt my rotty more methinks :hihi:

don kiddicks arse flavour would tempt my rotty more methinks :hihi:

Why? Is he ginger? :hihi:

Why? Is he ginger? :hihi:

hes a rotty, so yes he is ginger.. and black :P

Basically, our dog eats what we give her. One fussy eater (a dog) would only eat Kit-E-Kat. One day, in a tent camp near Filey, he decided not to eat that; we left his dish under the tent fly, and he went to sleep next to it. A sheepdog from the farm came up and sniffed at it. "Aye, thee eat it, he doesn't want it" we said. Suddenly Fred (that was his name) woke up and drove off the sheepdog. Ever seen an ten week old mini poodle chase a sheepdog?
Anyway, he always ate his food as soon as set down afterwards.

Basically, our dog eats what we give her. One fussy eater (a dog) would only eat Kit-E-Kat. One day, in a tent camp near Filey, he decided not to eat that; we left his dish under the tent fly, and he went to sleep next to it. A sheepdog from the farm came up and sniffed at it. "Aye, thee eat it, he doesn't want it" we said. Suddenly Fred (that was his name) woke up and drove off the sheepdog. Ever seen an ten week old mini poodle chase a sheepdog?
Anyway, he always ate his food as soon as set down afterwards.

Story of the day is that :thumbsup:
Dogs must be the barmiest animal on this planet. :)

just makes me feel uneasy when i see these adverts on tv.....big fat cat, already overfed, having foreplay (almost) with its owner and getting a heavily processed and expensive dinner in return.

it irks me.

Are you referring to that truly terrifying IAMS advert, where the woman says she 'can't get up without her furry alarm clock'? By turns farcical and nauseating. I'm afraid it conjures up images of all sorts of bestiality :gag:

And to get to the original question - feed your pets whatever you like. As long as it's not that value stuff that's 99% ash, I'm sure they won't turn their (furry :hihi: ) noses up at it.

Well, my elderly ginger cat won't eat Gourmet, Sheba, Petit Pate or anything else he obviously considers fancy muck that the owner keeps offering as a tempting treat. The only approved dinner is the one where the owner stands at the cooker and simmers a piece of coley or some such, allows it to cool to just the right temperature, adds a handful of Royal Canin biscuit and places it gently in exactly the right spot on the kitchen floor.

Of course, a piece of pan-fried tuna offered from the owner's plate will also be acceptable. But fast food, all right for next door's spiky white scruff, I suppose.

Are you referring to that truly terrifying IAMS advert, where the woman says she 'can't get up without her furry alarm clock'?

I loved that phrase so much it was my signature on here for much of last year. At least now I have a sensible one.....

People can feed their pets what they choose. I suspect that the word 'gormet' however is as much overused here as the word 'luxuary' in the coach industry. It can mean whatever the origionator wants it to and there are no real standards to judge it by.

I think solomon should give his house up and live in a tin shack if he feels so strongly about the redistribution of wealth - donating any proceeds from the sale of his goods to various homeless charities

I can also pretty much guarantee that he'd have something to say if anybody tried to dictate his shopping habits based on other people's principles

I've been in a couple of petfood factories. If that is meat fit for human consumption, I'm worried :shocked:

I also met a (human) Spillers petfood taster once :huh:

does anyone else think it is sick that we feed cats and dogs 'luxury' food when people elsewhere are sharing a loaf of bread between a family of five?
makes my head spin.....WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD????

an angry
Sol
:rant:

Not at all - I can spend my money on my dogs if I choose. Do you drink, Smoke etc ??? If you do. why don't you stop & give your money to charity ???

I suspect that the word 'gormet' however is as much overused here as the word 'luxuary' in the coach industry. It can mean whatever the origionator wants it to and there are no real standards to judge it by.
Yeh, back to the original post - I'm liking slimsid's response a lot. :)

It might have 'luxury' written on it but.. silk purse, sow's ear anyone? Eye of the beholder, etc etc :hihi:

So if the OP really does get 'angry' at this marketing ploy, then I'd suggest he restocks and takes a look at what is important in his life :shock:

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I honestly don't think a cat would be able to tell teh difference between "gourmet" or "regular" cat food anyway.

As long as he/she's been fed and watered that's all they're bothered about.

But then again, I know nothing about cats, so I'm probably wrong :loopy:

I dunno.

We once tried to fob our cat off with Kwik Save value cat food.

He took one sniff and tried to bury it. If you know anything about cats, you will recognise the symbolism of this action.

probably quite a bit of ash,
an id imagine eating ash is about 20 times worse than smoking

not really. Ash is reasonably pure carbon

i feed my pooch kobe beef and duck foie gras. he likes me.

.............:D

...even I don't eat gourmet food so if I were to have a cat or dog then they will be eating normal cat/dog food.

gourmet?! Why? Dogs and cats eat their own sick, lick their private bits etc. so I reckon the last thing on their mind is how nice their food tastes. Just get them normal food!!


abso-bleedin-lutely DD! :)

oooerrrr....that explains some of it (looking at title).

the original title to this thread was "does anyone else think that it's sick to feed cats and dogs gourmet food?".

because i do. it makes me really angry. and i was interested to see if anyone else felt the same way.

apologies to those who took umbrage at the fact that they felt i was dissing them for their lifestyle choices.

because i was.

let he who is without sin cast the first stone :roll:

let he who is without sin cast the first stone :roll:

You wouldn't believe how many times I've said that while reading this forum. :)

this forum or reported posts? ;)

Are you referring to that truly terrifying IAMS advert, where the woman says she 'can't get up without her furry alarm clock'? By turns farcical and nauseating. I'm afraid it conjures up images of all sorts of bestiality :gag:



:hihi: Yeah, it does sound a bit erm 'dodgy', but cats really do wake you up in the morning. They're like "feed me, now!" and stamp around the bed screeching and if you don't get up fast enough you get a load of furry cat butt shoved in your face. That certainly gets you running for the cat food...:gag:

But Lotti said it right - what's the big difference between spending my spare cash on some cat food and spending it on a gas guzzler and a ton of petrol? At least the cats don't bother anyone else, and they're my little pals so they're worth it. :thumbsup: You could say just about anything was a 'waste' of money compared to sharing out my cash among society.

You a communist, solomon1? ;)

:hihi: Yeah, it does sound a bit erm 'dodgy', but cats really do wake you up in the morning. They're like "feed me, now!" and stamp around the bed screeching and if you don't get up fast enough you get a load of furry cat butt shoved in your face. That certainly gets you running for the cat food...:gag:

But Lotti said it right - what's the big difference between spending my spare cash on some cat food and spending it on a gas guzzler and a ton of petrol? At least the cats don't bother anyone else, and they're my little pals so they're worth it. :thumbsup: You could say just about anything was a 'waste' of money compared to sharing out my cash among society.

You a communist, solomon1? ;)

Cats dont bother anyone else?
What about crapping in neighbours gardens, killing songbirds, laying under cars etc, etc.
Anyone who has a cat as a pet is unfit to be a member of the human race.

Cats dont bother anyone else?
What about crapping in neighbours gardens, killing songbirds, laying under cars etc, etc.
Anyone who has a cat as a pet is unfit to be a member of the human race.

Mine certainly don't do any of that, as they are indoor cats. :thumbsup:

:P

Mine certainly don't do any of that, as they are indoor cats. :thumbsup:

:P

I know they dont, I am just bored and trying to get people going :hihi: :thumbsup:

THIS (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38204000/jpg/_38204576_huntley150.jpg) and others of his ilk are being fed decent food, so don't see anything untoward in feeding our pets to the same high standards. Their food would be more palatable to the starving than what Tibbles and Rover get, anyway.

You a communist, solomon1?

prefer the term socialist mathom :). communist has too many negative connotations