I went to Meadowhall yesterday with my partner and encountered some of the most ill mannered people in the world I think.
Not only to people suddenly stop walking without stopping to think about the tidal wave of people behind them but they push you around and stand in front of you while you are looking at items on shop shelves.
And then the genius's who stop to chat in shop doorways or push their way down an already very overfull aisle (as seen in Loft yesterday).
I think it's worse in Meadowhell than town but even then.... I was looking at a pair of boots and some really tall guy first knocked my bag off my shoulder but then proceeded to stand directly in front of me, blocking my view of said boots. As my bag slid down my arm it (thankfully) bashed the back of his legs. He looked down at me with a filthy glance and then turned away - no apology.
Maybe Im old fashioned but I was brought up to apologise for accidentally bashing people, dont walk or stop in front of people, dont push etc.
Some dozy mare stopped in front of me as I reached out to pick something off a shelf earlier in the week, so I leaned past her to get it in a pointed manner and she had the cheek to huff at me.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
Where have all the manners gone?
Lets begin a personal campaign to be more aware of the people around us and more considerate shoppers and show the numbskulls how it should be.

This happens every morning at school with parents.

They are so bad mannered, you teach your children to be polite and for what.

I work in meadowhall but I hate it when people stop and talk and you can`t go round them so you ask please and they look at you like you have two heads. That`s when I am working as well as shopping.

Manners used to be taught at school and at home, what happened ?

It;s not only young people who can be rude and inconsiderate, a trip to the food section of M&S or the central Post Office in town will prove it.

I think both children and adults are the same. I meant adults at school are just as ignorent as their children.

Oh dont get me started on the old dears - Ive had two venomous old bats having a go at me this year. One for seeing to it that she got a seat on a bus. I made sure she got one but she had a go at me.
The second for warning her about something that could possibly make her a little unsteady (she was somewhat decrepit) and I got an ear bashing for not being... I dont know - whatever she saw as perfect I guess.
I was brought up to respect my elders and I do but is hard sometimes ;-)
Sheffield has a population of 530,000 apparently, surely somehow something can change.
Maybe I should get a clipboard and stand in town asking people about rude shoppers/bus passengers/drivers/kids/etc and maybe there would be some pychological knock on effect where they become more aware?
BTW what happened to kids standing up on buses for older people to sit down and where are the signs on buses to remind parents?

Knowing people you would probably get abuse thrown at you if you stood in town asking about manners.

Even some of them would ask you what they are.

It really peeves me off, when older people (no age bracket mentioned)! Don't wanna start an additional rant!! Expect us younger ones to hold the doors for them when they're like a mile behind us!!! Then when we do wait they just saunter past without so much as a thank you.

Now if it was the other way round and it was the more "mature" going through the door first the majority will not hold the door for you. (Are younger people not entitled to manners!!!!!)

How can older people expect manners when they have obviously forgotten all theres as the years have passed them!!!

I know it's common courtesy, if you see a frail man/woman to let them in front of you on the bus or let them in front of you at the supermarkets when all the old dears are buying is a loaf of bread but I think this gets taken a bit too far.

For instance.......

I was waiting for the bus home from work not long ago, it was five o'clock busy as hell in town. As the bus pulled up this woman not even 55 just pushed past all of us and walked onto the bus tutting as if it should have been our second nature to think oh a middle aged woman, she deserves to get on and get a seat before us!!

ahhhh feel much better for getting that off my chest......

:rant:

Why do people (not specifying an age group here) decide to do their shopping in town at lunchtime?
If I had all day I would do it in the morning or the afternoon when it's less bussy, not when everyone is on their lunchhour and trying to get something to eat.

And, why do all bank staff have their lunch hour between 12 and 2, meaning that when there is the largest number of people with a limited amount of time there are the fewest cashiers available ?

Now I work out of town this doesn't wind me up as much as it used to.

Blimey Raychul.. Can tell your back at work :P

If of course you are back at work, if not Im avoiding you and the mood today :roll:

DeeJ

you see. the thing that really p****** me off is when someone is perfectly capable to ask you to do something by saying it in a nice manner and with a good please, but instead they just command you to do stuff without a please or a thankyou anywhere insight.

Politeness is not hard. its one 6 letter word. PLEASE (pleese)

It Wont Kill You!!

(hint to Fuzzy)

What about mothers with prams in places like Meadowhall? They seem to think that having a pram is equivalent to using a snow plough - and the other shoppers are the snow. I realise that pushing a pram about must be a bit more difficult than walking without one, but at least give people time to get out of the way before barging into them or running over their feet.

I don't know if this is still the case but a few years back when I was going to college all the older people (again, mentioning no age bracket) INSIST on getting on the rush hour buses to go and do their shopping!? I mean, for christs sake, they have all ruddy day to do their shopping don't they.

I know exactly what you peeps mean about M&S at lunchtime, it's a wonder I have any ankles left from the trolleys ramming in to me.

Meadowhall is a different kettle of fish!!! Now, that would be one hell of a rant.

Originally posted by t020
What about mothers with prams in places like Meadowhall? They seem to think that having a pram is equivalent to using a snow plough - and the other shoppers are the snow. I realise that pushing a pram about must be a bit more difficult than walking without one, but at least give people time to get out of the way before barging into them or running over their feet.

If you've ever pushed a pram around meadowhall you understand exactly. You think its bad enough trying to walk round there - you wanna try it pushing something thats 2 feet wide - after all the inconsiderate tw@ts as mentioned above its te only way to get from one place to another - sorry but just get out of my way!!

What got my goat this weekend at Meadowhell was this old lady who nicked my parking space.
Allow me to take you to the scene of the crime....

The downstairs Red car park is half closed off because of some building work going on so it's really busy to say the least.
I spotted some people walking to their car so I stopped and indicated for their space.

As they pulled out I drove up to reverse into the space I had waited paitiently for.
However I little old lady whipped in before I had chance to reverse into the space I had waited AGES for and then proceeded to tell me how she had been driving round for ages with no spae in sight and that she too waited for mine (funny how I didn't see her indicating or even near the space).

What would you have done... given it's a little old lady?

Well I politely said that if she keeps her car their I will block her in and I'm going to be 3 hrs (which wasn't true I was only going to be half an hour tops). She retorted with how mean I was being ( :loopy: ) since she was going to be 10 mins.

I said it was her choice since she's rudely nicking my space.
She eventually decided to move her car, but as I got in mine another space opened up right in front so I whipped in that one instead.

I got out to tell her not to bother moving anymore and to keep the space, but she didn't want to listen and drove off anyway leaving someone else to get the space. Talk about cut your nose off to spite your face :lol:

Yes I felt bad about it, but it was rightly my space. Was I wrong?

middle gae and old couples walking around town stopping randomly, in the middle of everyone and getting in the way. M&S needs a minimum speed limit:P

I've got it! Lanes. Like traffic.
All the random stoppers can go in the slow lane. All the speed shoppers can go in a second lane. Its just that all supermarkets would have to duplicate everything on each side of the aisle.
Hospitals have lines on the floor to follow to this or that ward so why not coloured lanes for ages and speed of shopping LOL!

Another manners thing that piddles me off, ungrateful drivers. The ones who I stop for or allow passage when its my right of way and they cant bother to nod or wave 'thanks'. My grandad tells me that in his day a person going downhill always gave way to a person going uphill, cos its easier.. Ive always tried to do the same but sometimes I get sooo angry when I wait ages and then they drive by like they are the sodding Queen (or king).

A lot of the work I do involves people asking me to do things for them. Sort of like a service (ooooer not rude tho) I am in no way obliged to do anything for anyone in my work but so few people say please.
I now have a sign which says that my service/product/whatever only costs a please or a thankyou. My day is a lot nicer because of it.

Nice try, but that concept doesn't even work on the M1.

We're just like laboratory mice, the more you pack us in the more aggressive we become.

Being only 5 foot tall has some advantages however in meadowhell and town i get pushed and shoved and nobody says sorry excuse me please or thanks if you hold open a door let familys go together on stairs excaltors or through doors, kids bash you spit paper through straws and flick ash on you (maybe last one aint suposed to be in m'hell) i think this is down right rude, i know we all knock peps sometimes but i always say sorry, If we retaliate by saying oi have you no manners we are then seen as the rude person.
I often get the older generation abusing there age and size to push me about. a guy the other day mistook me for a school kid (just because i dont wear make up have my hair back and wear trousers flat shoes and t-shirt - doesn't mean im a kid im 22 not 12) and told me i should be in school not shoppin - christ i was on my lunch from work! The worst people are the elderly as they think they have earned the right to be rude - dont get me wrong i have the utmost respect for the older end as i love me nan to bits but alot (not all) old people brand most young people with the samebrush and its just not on!

"I say bring back national service and corpral punishment"

IN SUCH A TANTRUM TODAY TO AS SOME OLD GIT PUSHED PASSED ME ON THE BUS AND I HAD TO STAND UP - HE'D ONLY JUST GOT TO THE STOP - I WORK HE OBVIOUSLY WORKED WE BOTH PAY SAME FARE - SO SHOULD HAVE EQUALL OPPS FOR A SEAT! WHAT AN ARSE! SOOO MAD

I always tried and be polite and helpful and well mannered, however the other day I was in the pub and this older lady behind the bar was serving me I ordered and said please as she was walking away, but she must not have heard me and said, God young people these days, just don't have any manners, I said what are you talking about, I said please, cheeky woman, I was right annoyed trying to tell me how to behalf, she couldn't say anything anyway, she was right scruffy and had an attitude problem, that's the last time I go in dodgy pubs.

But to make the day even worse, I had no sleep the night before and went to get some fags from the shop round the corner from the pub and the old woman in the shop asked me for ID, I laughed and said I'm 25 :loopy: She said well we have to ask if we're not sure, I've been told I look younger than my age but 10 years thats just barmy.

Originally posted by ladyovmanor
- sorry but just get out of my way!!


Like I said, I'd like to.... but BEFORE having my feet run over by pram wheels.

ok workers in meadowhall...

do u get bumped into more when u have your uniform on??
when im out on my lunch and im in a rush people seem to aim for me. when i have a jacket on, i dont??? anyone else witness this phenomenon?? (sp?)

Originally posted by DaBouncer
What got my goat this weekend at Meadowhell was this old lady who nicked my parking space.
Allow me to take you to the scene of the crime....

The downstairs Red car park is half closed off because of some building work going on so it's really busy to say the least.
I spotted some people walking to their car so I stopped and indicated for their space.

As they pulled out I drove up to reverse into the space I had waited paitiently for.
However I little old lady whipped in before I had chance to reverse into the space I had waited AGES for and then proceeded to tell me how she had been driving round for ages with no spae in sight and that she too waited for mine (funny how I didn't see her indicating or even near the space).

What would you have done... given it's a little old lady?

Well I politely said that if she keeps her car their I will block her in and I'm going to be 3 hrs (which wasn't true I was only going to be half an hour tops). She retorted with how mean I was being ( :loopy: ) since she was going to be 10 mins.

I said it was her choice since she's rudely nicking my space.
She eventually decided to move her car, but as I got in mine another space opened up right in front so I whipped in that one instead.

I got out to tell her not to bother moving anymore and to keep the space, but she didn't want to listen and drove off anyway leaving someone else to get the space. Talk about cut your nose off to spite your face :lol:

Yes I felt bad about it, but it was rightly my space. Was I wrong?
No win situation I reckon DB. If you had walked away you would have felt (quite rightly) peed off. But having engaged in the conflict with the 'old dear' you felt guilty (it sounds like)
No win situation. Bet it stayed on your mind for the following hour!

i have always just employeed the tactic of smiling at people i let thru the door and saying loudly, "its my pleasure."

they looked shocked, i can almost see them thinking, "i didnt thank him"

always cheers me up and stops me getting annoyed at these impolite cretins

Please, thank you and after you are old fashioned and un-cool so i've been told by some youngsters.

Everyone seems to be grumpy when you get to Meadowhall. I think everyone must be told a joke on entry with a big mocha and comfy chair for 5 minutes before entering.

You could even make lanes for browsers, old people, prams and speed walkers which all lead to the oasis for another cuppa before trying to get out again.

Originally posted by nick2
And, why do all bank staff have their lunch hour between 12 and 2, meaning that when there is the largest number of people with a limited amount of time there are the fewest cashiers available ?


They don't. :rolleyes:

What really, really annoys me is people who answer their mobile phone while someone in a shop or bank is serving them. That is very rude but it happens often. Treat the person serving you with respect and they will do likewise.

Also I wish people would remember that banks, shops and offices are peoples workplaces. Therefore do not smoke, eat or drink in them. Don't let your kids run wild or leave your litter on their floor.

Thank you! :suspect:

I used to work in a busy convienience store/shop.
While serving a chap his phone went, he answered. Ok I thought, he must be about to tell person to call back. But no he carried on talking.
So I didn't talk to him...wouldnt want to interupt his conversation that was oh so important. Waited for him to realise I had finished scanned, told him price and took money. Gave him change.

As he turned away from counter he said to person on phone 'staff here very rude - barely said a word to me' !!!

Please everybody - shop workers put up with all sorts of abuse and hassle from idiots. Be differant to the crowd and be friendly - it will be appreciated!

Originally posted by Andy

What really, really annoys me is people who answer their mobile phone while someone in a shop or bank is serving them. That is very rude but it happens often. Treat the person serving you with respect and they will do likewise.



I've experienced "service" in one shop where the assistant was sat gossiping on the phone throughout the whole transaction. I was gobsmacked.

Originally posted by t020
..................I was gobsmacked.

Must have been a nice change! :hihi:

Originally posted by draggletail
No win situation I reckon DB. If you had walked away you would have felt (quite rightly) peed off. But having engaged in the conflict with the 'old dear' you felt guilty (it sounds like)
No win situation. Bet it stayed on your mind for the following hour!
For the rest of the day mate - felt right bad, but peed off at the same time!

Here in the USA, manners are linked to the likelihood of a person carrying a firearm. You don't get into the 'in your face' situations because more often than not they end in bloodshed.

Originally posted by Dirk Diggler

I got out to tell her not to bother moving anymore and to keep the space, but she didn't want to listen and drove off anyway leaving someone else to get the space. Talk about cut your nose off to spite your face :lol:

Yes I felt bad about it, but it was rightly my space. Was I wrong?


But DB, - you intimitaded her.

She probably thought you'd trash her car or something if she left it there.

have gone to the same place as Respect > out the Window of life.

Last time I went to Meadowhall was December 2001. I came away with the impression that those who weren't lunatics going in, certainly would be by the time they got out. As we were getting in the car to come home a woman getting out of hers said it had taken her almost an hour from the M1 exit to the car park outside M&S, and it took us twenty minutes to get onto Brightside lane....sheer madness.

My wife was really scared by all the pushing and shoving and vowed never to enter the place again.

i'm guilty of answering my phone whilst going through the checkout.
I always say excuse me i'll have to answer this to the person at the checkout first, but at the end of they day, I don't actually need to talk to them, they can ring up the price, i can pass them cash and take change all without having to exchange a word.

Originally posted by Greybeard
But DB, - you intimitaded her.

She probably thought you'd trash her car or something if she left it there.
If you'd have seen me you'd have known I wasn't intimidating in the slightest.
I was driving my BMW Z3, was with my wife and dresses quite smart - I was polite even when pointing out how she stole my space.

So was it right for her to take my space just because she's a pensioner? Was I wrong in that case to actually point out how she stole the space even though I was waiting - just because she's a pensioner?

Or is it because I'm a man and should just let her do as she pleases because she's a woman?

If she had been in her 20's you'd have a different point of view.

Originally posted by Cyclone
i'm guilty of answering my phone whilst going through the checkout.
I always say excuse me i'll have to answer this to the person at the checkout first, but at the end of they day, I don't actually need to talk to them, they can ring up the price, i can pass them cash and take change all without having to exchange a word.

No, you don't *HAVE TO* talk to the cashier - but thats not the point. Isn't rude not to? Even if just a simple hello.

Originally posted by Dirk Diggler
If you'd have seen me you'd have known I wasn't intimidating in the slightest. I was driving my BMW Z3................

You know, I just can't help but to agree with DB on this one, the old dear must have thought you were a hairdresser! :)

:hihi:

Originally posted by 1Man&hisBMW
You know, I just can't help but to agree with DB on this one, the old dear must have thought you were a hairdresser! :)

:hihi:
It's an oldie but a goldie eh :P

to be quite honest, they are getting paid to work and all I want to do is pay for what i'm buying and leave, i'm always polite but i'd really rather not have a conversation with a stranger.
So, since i've already said hello and then excused myself to answer the phone everyone's happy right?
The other situation is when i'm already on the phone, should i be rude to whoevers on the other end and hangup, just so that i can be minimally polite to someone i don't know?

Originally posted by dafoot
No, you don't *HAVE TO* talk to the cashier - but thats not the point. Isn't rude not to? Even if just a simple hello.

Just to show theres no age limit on lack of manners I saw a classic today - I was waiting at the checkout at Sainsburys out in meadow hell this afternnon when a mother/daughter couple forced their way in through the adjoining checkout using trolly and push chair as battering rams. the two people waiting at the checkout were justifiably (in my oppinion) annoyed and were muttering to each other when the doughter of the couple turned tound and in a very aggresive way shouted 'if you've got something to say, you should say it to my face' across the checkouts. To which the people at the checkout very politely said that in fact they had mentioned that it would be nice if she had said excuse me rather than just barging through. At this the mother daughter couple starting complaining about people blocking the aisle (remember this is a checkout not an aisle into the shop!) and then as a crowning comment started muttering about how rude some people were to argue in front of a child!!!

Are they stupid, ignorant, arrogant or all of the above???

Far too many people ignore basic manners when it comes to queueing up. I've lost count of the number of times I've been barged infront of, and there doesn't seem to be any age limit.

"I say bring back national service and corpral punishment"

:clap: :clap: i agree bring back national service (for the old fuddy duddys)
and what did us sheffilders do to end up with meadow :loopy: hell:twisted:

Originally posted by Zebra
I went to Meadowhall yesterday with my partner and encountered some of the most ill mannered people in the world I think.
Not only to people suddenly stop walking without stopping to think about the tidal wave of people behind them but they push you around and stand in front of you while you are looking at items on shop shelves.
And then the genius's who stop to chat in shop doorways or push their way down an already very overfull aisle (as seen in Loft yesterday).
I think it's worse in Meadowhell than town but even then.... I was looking at a pair of boots and some really tall guy first knocked my bag off my shoulder but then proceeded to stand directly in front of me, blocking my view of said boots. As my bag slid down my arm it (thankfully) bashed the back of his legs. He looked down at me with a filthy glance and then turned away - no apology.
Maybe Im old fashioned but I was brought up to apologise for accidentally bashing people, dont walk or stop in front of people, dont push etc.
Some dozy mare stopped in front of me as I reached out to pick something off a shelf earlier in the week, so I leaned past her to get it in a pointed manner and she had the cheek to huff at me.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
Where have all the manners gone?
Lets begin a personal campaign to be more aware of the people around us and more considerate shoppers and show the numbskulls how it should be.
they was all lost when thy stopped caning in schools
smacking their kids blame the do gooders

A thought which often comes to mind when I have the 'pleasure' of shopping at Meadowhell is:

It's no wonder there are so many poor drivers on the roads when it seems the majority of people don't even know how to walk.

You're correct. They stop without consideration for those behind them; they wait in doorways - often with prams - and at the top and bottom of escalators. Nobody seems to want to help you get in and out of a shop, just standing there in an aisle where they can see that you can't get through and/or that you are struggling.

But that's not exclusive to Meadowhall. That's society today. (Blimey, I'm sounding like my Dad, God Bless 'im!)

i hate people who walk past prams and they are smoking so obviously the cigarette is at baby head level

is this drifting into an "agism" topic?

Originally posted by depoix
is this drifting into an "agism" topic?

Don't think so. Most people are saying that lack of manner most definitely isn't an agism topic. Old and young alike, people are nasty, inconsiderate and generally rude to their fellow beings.

Some of the worst language I hear comes from young (sometimes VERY young people) some of the worst behaviour I see comes from older (sometimes VERY old people).

But, I have met some wonderful people in and around Sheffield - young and old. Everyone is different. Problem (as I see it) is these days no-one has to face any consequences. Young people believe (rightly) that they can get away with anything, so where is the incentive?

At the end of the day if we are polite and respectful to each other we will all get through each day less stressed.

I make a point of holding doors open for people following me and i've got to say from my experience the people who tend to walk through without acknowledging me are usually older people.

I went to Meadowhall yesterday with my partner and encountered some of the most ill mannered people in the world I think.
Not only to people suddenly stop walking without stopping to think about the tidal wave of people behind them but they push you around and stand in front of you while you are looking at items on shop shelves.
And then the genius's who stop to chat in shop doorways or push their way down an already very overfull aisle (as seen in Loft yesterday).
I think it's worse in Meadowhell than town but even then.... I was looking at a pair of boots and some really tall guy first knocked my bag off my shoulder but then proceeded to stand directly in front of me, blocking my view of said boots. As my bag slid down my arm it (thankfully) bashed the back of his legs. He looked down at me with a filthy glance and then turned away - no apology.
Maybe Im old fashioned but I was brought up to apologise for accidentally bashing people, dont walk or stop in front of people, dont push etc.
Some dozy mare stopped in front of me as I reached out to pick something off a shelf earlier in the week, so I leaned past her to get it in a pointed manner and she had the cheek to huff at me.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
Where have all the manners gone?
Lets begin a personal campaign to be more aware of the people around us and more considerate shoppers and show the numbskulls how it should be.
Have tried to be really polite when walking around in medowhall but found I get no where, so I have decided not to shop anymore in medowhall

Hi everyone,

Forgive me but I have just had a giggle about your comments about shopping in meadowhall because you are all so spot on.

I hate going to Meadowhell or Murderhall as it is known there are far to many ignorant people for me to cope with, going to Asda is bad enough but I really can't cope with bad manners it does my head in.

What has happened to the manners I was brought up with? I am only 38 years old but I can't believe the amount of ignorance that goes on not only ibn the young but by the pensioners always whats gone wrong????
Jane

It's not just in shops where I've seen bad manners.

Last Sunday I was driving down Mobray Street, just near to where it joins Nursery Street and at one point the road narrows from 2 lanes into 1.

I was waiting patiently in the queue of traffic and some 'white van' decides to pull up alongside the right of me and barge in front. I rolled the windows down and asked him 'What do you think I'm waiting here for?' Since he obviously didn't want to wait like everyone else did he. Then he tries to undertake other people and ends up on my left where the driver starts shouting abuse to me out of his window!! He was the idiot causing all the trouble!!!!

Why are people like that?

It's not just in shops where I've seen bad manners.

Last Sunday I was driving down Mobray Street, just near to where it joins Nursery Street and at one point the road narrows from 2 lanes into 1.

I was waiting patiently in the queue of traffic and some 'white van' decides to pull up alongside the right of me and barge in front. I rolled the windows down and asked him 'What do you think I'm waiting here for?' Since he obviously didn't want to wait like everyone else did he. Then he tries to undertake other people and ends up on my left where the driver starts shouting abuse to me out of his window!! He was the idiot causing all the trouble!!!!

Why are people like that?
A lot of it comes from the desire to live life in the fast lane - get from A to B as fast as possible, just to give them an extra 10 minutes (or less!) in the day.

A lot of it comes from the desire to live life in the fast lane - get from A to B as fast as possible, just to give them an extra 10 minutes (or less!) in the day.

Talking about the fast lane and rude motorists springs to mind I really don't know what has happened in South Yorkshire and Sheffield in particular the driving is generally of an appalling standard as well as the 'driving' in shopping malls etc.

Just realised this thread is about 2 yrs old...I read the first post and was gonna reply...well actually i was at meadowhall monday too.....


anyway i was there with my daughter she's only 9 but very polite she gets really annoyed at the adults that push past her and never say excuse me or sorry.
The thing that really annoys me is when you bump into somebody when you both go to go the same way and your the one saying sorry and they have the cheek to tut at you...i mean it was there fault as much as yours wasn't it and they dont apologise.:rant:

Capital punishment in schools should be restored!!!!

Capital punishment in schools should be restored!!!!

That would certainly sort some discipline problems out :hihi: :o Only kidding.....

StarSparkle

"manners are free! But its amazing that many people still cant afford them!!"

I blame TV, - rudeness seems generally acceptable on both children's and adult programmes. Do teachers still enforce good manners ? We were quite sternly told off for forgetting 'please' and 'thankyou' - even by the dinner ladies !

Long time ago though :P

Capital punishment in schools should be restored!!!!
Restored?! How long ago did we have the death penalty in schools?!

The worst things anyone can do are:
1. Push, shove, huff, puff and tut.
2. Not observe basic manners such as queueing, covering your mouth when coughing, saying sorry, please and thank you liberally and not glaring at people.
3. Inflicting your presence upon others where it might not be wanted whether through being noisy, arrogant or generally indifferent to other human beings.

At the root of it all I think is simply that people are too self-absorbed. People often don't see other people as they are thinking so hard about themselves, maybe because they are stressed. The ironic thing about this is that rude people must be one of the biggest stressors in our lives and yet we allow that vicious circle to continue. All age groups are guilty of poor manners, and everyone slips up now and then, even those who do value manners.

Luckily most situations have unwritten rules which people can observe, e.g. indicating for a parking space in a busy car park.

The worst place for ill mannered people is when passengers are trying to get onto trains - the level of behaviour of people is nothing short of animal. :rant:

Mobile phone bad manners is the one for me. I belong to a generation where land lines were rare, mobiles were unimaginable. Why people want to talk constant crap via their mobiles is a complete mystery to me, but to talk it when conducting a transaction at a shop,bank etc is the height of bad manners.

In the deep and distant past I recall the most common grumble about your work day was 'the phone has never stopped ringing', now folk can't wait to continue phoning and answering calls no matter where they are or what they are doing at the time. When I was young I wanted my freedom not to be contactable by all and sundry at any time, am I missing something?

By the way I do own a mobile phone but it's switched off.

The worst place for ill mannered people is when passengers are trying to get onto trains - the level of behaviour of people is nothing short of animal. :rant:

Trams are the worst though... I was always taught to wait for people to get off before you try and get on but it seems I'm the only one. This particularly irritates me at the Meadowhall P+R stop; the tram is already filling up again before most people have got off... I mean it's not like the tram is going to leave straight away is it? It usually sits there for 10 minutes before doing anything so why the rush? :rant:

I work in a shop in Meadowhall and rude people really make my job hell. It's not a clothes shop or anything either, the trade I'm in requires a lot of one-to-one customer interaction and rude people REALLY do my nut in :rant:

Why do mothers with all day to do what they want to do in town wait for the workers going home hour to push onto an already packed bus with a massive buggy,numerous bags and carry outs from Macdonalds (which stink the bus out) In my case on the 47/48 route mostly disturbing every one again after a couple of stops up Rock st whe n It would have taken less time to walk pushing said pram. They don't even say excuse me and expect people who have just finished 8 or 9 hours to stand up so they can get the ****** pram in.:rant:

The thing that really annoys me is when you bump into somebody when you both go to go the same way and your the one saying sorry and they have the cheek to tut at you...i mean it was there fault as much as yours wasn't it and they dont apologise.:rant:

Fret not, Rachylou.

It's the British thing to do, apologising after somebody else bumps into you :)

Just consider it a symbol of superior upbringing, not as a sign of weakness.

The worst place for ill mannered people is when passengers are trying to get onto trains - the level of behaviour of people is nothing short of animal. :rant:

I get this as well. Whenever I'm on a platform when a train arrives and I'm by the carriage doors, I'll take a large step backwards to make room for the people getting off the train. What usually happens though is that three people around me will duck into the space I've just made, thus making it the same as it was before. :rolleyes:

Saying that though, I don't think that British people in general are particularly rude. My girlfriend is Chinese and she says that we're overly polite, and that I unnecessarily say please too often.

:)

Goodness. You want to live down here in the south. Thats the place to come to sample ill mannered folk.

Im in East kent. Trip over in the street and people will walk over you rather than acknowledge that you're under foot.

Give me personable northern folk anyday! :)

(ps. I am a Midlander by birth so Im at least half qualified to comment)

When I say sorry for blocking someones path but equally they are blocking mine and are probably more to blame. They say nothing complete ignorant t**ts. I still do it.

Okay I might be going slightly off topic here but it really annoys me when people with pushchairs barge you out of the way and then stare at you as if its your fault for being hit in the ankle by their pram!!
Its the same with shopping trollies.
I can imagine that it must be difficult getting around in crowds when you've got a pram but it would be much easier if they just asked you to move outta the way. I mean if you can't get by that easy then just carry your kid or wear one of those baby carrier things. How hard can it be!?
Also when you see people with a twin pram and they've only got one kid in it or worse still, when you see people using a pram for shopping. It just really p***es me off!!

Queue jumpers too. There gonna be the first against the wall when the revolution comes...

O I mean if you can't get by that easy then just carry your kid or wear one of those baby carrier things. How hard can it be!?

Because babies weigh a ton after ten minutes of carrying them about and its not practical.

when you see people using a pram for shopping. It just really p***es me off!!

Ahh :rolleyes: I miss my pram days. I used to get so much shopping done. Now I make the kids walk and carry it :hihi:

Great thread this! Rudeness really ticks me off, it costs nothing to be polite and it makes life much more pleasant. I think good manners are about thinking about how your behaviour impacts on others. For instance I hate when I'm at the checkout at the supermarket and the person behind has almost rammed their trolley into me. Age has no limits either way, but I do suspect that intelligence and upbringing has! Why do people assume that all oldies were well brought up, there were kids with no manners when I was young, although they didn't get away with it in school then! Lack of manners gets passed down the generations.

I mainly keep away from Meadowhall, I shop in town before I go to work wherever possible - to avoid the retired and other non working people who seem to favour lunch time for shopping. I have to travel to work during busy times, and I agree with the posts about letting people off the tram before trying to get on! What is the problem - its not going to move off! I also suspect after all the years that I've given up seats to elderly and infirm, when I get there (not far away) it just won't happen for me.

And last but certainly not least - spitting in public. This must rank as one of the most disgusting things to do in places where others have to go - it really turns my stomach.:gag:

Great thread this! Rudeness really ticks me off, it costs nothing to be polite and it makes life much more pleasant. I think good manners are about thinking about how your behaviour impacts on others. For instance I hate when I'm at the checkout at the supermarket and the person behind has almost rammed their trolley into me. Age has no limits either way, but I do suspect that intelligence and upbringing has! Why do people assume that all oldies were well brought up, there were kids with no manners when I was young, although they didn't get away with it in school then! Lack of manners gets passed down the generations.

I mainly keep away from Meadowhall, I shop in town before I go to work wherever possible - to avoid the retired and other non working people who seem to favour lunch time for shopping. I have to travel to work during busy times, and I agree with the posts about letting people off the tram before trying to get on! What is the problem - its not going to move off! I also suspect after all the years that I've given up seats to elderly and infirm, when I get there (not far away) it just won't happen for me.

And last but certainly not least - spitting in public. This must rank as one of the most disgusting things to do in places where others have to go - it really turns my stomach.:gag:

As for this disgusting spitting habit I believe that some of these overpaid prima donna football 'stars' are responsible for a lot of this with some people emulating them carrying out this habit.

What is it with you people who can't spare the extra ten seconds it takes to put your supermarket trolley back in the proper bay when you're done with it? I see people at Tesco and they just walk in the approximate direction of the front of the shop and fling their empty trolley at it.

If you were at Abbeydale Tesco yesterday morning at 10.20am and just whizzed your tolley back onto the paved area near the railway line, your trolley rebounded and dented a white Rover and a blue Peugeot. :rolleyes:

Take care of your trollies!

:hihi:

As for this disgusting spitting habit I believe that some of these overpaid prima donna football 'stars' are responsible for a lot of this with some people emulating them carrying out this habit.

Very true. One of the worst things i see and i often see it. Disgusting.

My gripe is those that go up Escalators (mainly older women) and stop at the top thinking of which way to go. They dont realise there's a great number behind them ready to tumble!

Glad I don't shop in Meadowhall.... but its just the same here.... I went into my local sainsburys and took my place in the queue at the checkout.... because the aisles are so narrow its impossible to stand by the side of your trolley so I stood behind it.... a couple of women were talking loudly behind me and one of them leaning on her trolley.... then she started rocking it back and forth oblivious to the fact it was banging into my backside so I turned round looked at her trolley then smiled at her.... next minute she's doing the same thing again so I turned round and gave a dirty look.... stopped.

Minute later it starts again and due to the big mouths on them I knew she wouldn't hear me so I more or less shouted " It doesn't matter how hard you push that trolley love.... its not gonna fit up my a**e.".... bonus! no more banging or big mouths. :thumbsup:

I have experienced very bad manners which appears to be the norm these days and not from youngsters but older people which may seem surprising.

Just the same 6 years on then.:hihi:

And you've revived a six year old thread!!

the elderly with such good maners are the main offenders ...
pushing bumping .stopping for chats. takeing ages at the tills . do not ever think I have ever had the door held open for me by the older ones it the young huddie that holds the door open in most cases .

and dont get me started on the mobilty scooters the size of a mini takeing up the whole isle . its like a race track in most shopping centers now with isle blocks all over as they stop to compare batterys and stickers or collection of keyrings

Speaking of manners, when I was growing up in Sheffield, as kids we would be made to stand up if the bus was full so that an adult could sit down. If my mum was there and I didn't get up from my seat right away, I'd get an elbow in my side accompanied by the one word order: "Up." Kids who remained seated would be subjected to a barrage of loud comments from other passengers, total strangers to them. Comments like.."Look at that rude b...er; " Makes yer wonder who taught im all iz bad manners," etc.

Does any part of that happen nowadays, or is this a redundant question?

Every so often someone always says something like 'nobody has any manners these days' or my personal favourite 'nobody has any values anymore'. Well that's because they never did, the only difference between that golden age that never existed and now is the growth of cramped and airless shopping centres that drive everyone crazy. There is a reason why people call it 'meadowhell'.

There are some really ignorant people around, and rudeness irritates me. However, every now and then you get some nice surprises. The other day when I was with my Mum in Boots opticians we were asked to sit in waiting area. There was nowhere for me to sit, - not that I minded; - when a boy aged about 16 (to stereotype - hoodie etc....) stood up and offered me his seat. But on the whole good manners seem to be disappearing. I guess it's down to the circles we move in!

I've noticed this too and my personal theory as to why this is, is that the false wealth(credit/debt) and a misplaced sense of general entitlement over the past 15 or so years has done something to the collective psyche of a large rump of people in this country... made them arrogant.

My personal favourite is "Who's gonna give way"...?
I don't go to meadowhall these days but when i did i noticed that people walk "AT" you not towards you.. and they refuse to give way !
One day i decided to play a little game..."Who's gonna give way"?
I picked a destination to get to from my starting point and walked there without budging from my 'flight' path.
As much of a straight line as i could without bumping into anyone.
You would be amazed at my findings. I could write a book about it. !
The amount of times people bumped into ME was outstanding.
Many were looking up whilst walking fast, some were looking down whilst rushing around.
But my favourite was a young woman with a pram, now they can be a challenge because you gotta move out of the way of a speeding pram or your shins are gonne get it?
NOPE....She, window shopping whilst speeding allong without a care in the world...carrier bags full of shopping attatched to the pram handles etc...so i thought i would just stay still and see what happens... she ploughed straight into me without a care. !
"Oooh im sorry mister" She said......I said " it's ok no problem...I saw you coming and i could have moved out of the way but i wanted to see the look on your face when you crashed into me".
Priceless.

because parents and grandparents dont teach them i was taught to say please, thank you, and sorry from an early age as i grew older i was taught to give my seat up on buses for ladies and gentlemen, to open doors for themif i knocked them to say sorry and to address them as mr or mrs brown, and not by their first names as they do today.
if children were taught this as i was from being small then children would think this was normal behaviour, and treat everyone with respect not just the elderly, but teachers, policemen,sales people and all people the same way it does not cost a penny to say sorry or please and thank you. but like animals dogs, cats, horses, lions, and tigers they have to be taught the same way as you teach babys to use a potty every thing as to be taught just look at animals like monnkeys the mother will teach her baby how to suckle, what to eat whats not good to eat, and thats instilled in those babys mind, and they will pass it on to there young, kids need to learn lessons at an early age and not rely on teachers to do the job

Well said Cookingfat...( <What an odd name?!!)

When you look at the mothers and fathers of 'SOME' of the children today it doe's make you wonder what there kids are going to be like.

Sad truth is the world we live in today is not a nice place.

There are some really ignorant people around, and rudeness irritates me. However, every now and then you get some nice surprises. The other day when I was with my Mum in Boots opticians we were asked to sit in waiting area. There was nowhere for me to sit, - not that I minded; - when a boy aged about 16 (to stereotype - hoodie etc....) stood up and offered me his seat. But on the whole good manners seem to be disappearing. I guess it's down to the circles we move in!

My mum used to dragged me around boots the chemist in the 70's.

One time i exitidly said " Look mum ive found a bag of smoke "

She said .." That's not smoke its cotton wool love "....

Never watched candlewick green the same after that !

i work in a shop and amount of people that just stand talking on there phones while you pack there bags and no tha nk you or anything and also our post man is the worst he is ignorent and never smiles

i work in a shop and amount of people that just stand talking on there phones while you pack there bags and no tha nk you or anything and also our post man is the worst he is ignorent and never smiles

Oh, that used to really irritate me when I worked in a shop. They don't even acknowledge that you're there by smiling or anything.

Luckily, I have the friendliest postman to have ever existed. He always waves if he see's you about and chats when he can.

I've decided to stop being so polite, the other day I got on the bus and I sat in a seat that was soaked and I think it was milk and had started to smell, so I moved seats and then a woman was about to sit there with her little kid and I told her that there was something on the seat, and she gave me the dirtiest look I've ever seen. I wish I'd let her sit there now. PFFT

If I bump into someone when I'm out, I always apologise (even if it's their fault usually) and I rarely get the same back.

i think my post man has had his tounge removed lol

Was in London last weekend on the tube, and the only man to give up his seat was a young coloured chap. There were four of us women and loads of other men sitting down. Does that say something about the way foreign kids are brought up compared to our children?

I was recently catching a train, everyone rushed to get on. I waited for people to get off first. One person was using crutches, so obviously needed a little more room and time. Despite this, the kids next to me were still rushing to get on, so I subtly positioned myself to block them getting on whilst this person hobbled off, otherwise he would have been stuck. All it takes is a little thought and consideration for others.

Was in London last weekend on the tube, and the only man to give up his seat was a young coloured chap. There were four of us women and loads of other men sitting down. Does that say something about the way foreign kids are brought up compared to our children?

People in London dont queue up for buses like we do.

They just jump the queue when a bus arrives and get on.

That's how they opperate down there.!

They don't que for busses over here well not in town outside market anyway they always jump the que

Im a lady of what you would say is of small stature.
Many a time ive been waiting to be served at a counter, when some ignorant so and so (usually some neanderthal workman type) behind me will reach over my head! with a news paper and chocolate pop etc and say "eeeer luv" to the assistant and they serve them!!! let me tell you, that they both get an ear bashing!!! what is the world coming too?:rant:

Complaining about the youth & manners is nothing new

"What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"

That was Plato over 2000 years ago.

Complaining about the youth & manners is nothing new

"What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"

That was Plato over 2000 years ago.

And every generation blames the generation before them.

What's that saying....quit pro quo?

Something like that.

And every generation blames the generation before them.

What's that saying....quit pro quo?

Something like that.

Quid pro quo,is what you mean, I think. But don't see how it applies. It means you do me a favor, I'll return it. :huh: