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Dont correct my spelling:P .A freind of mine owns one and it realy lives up to that breeds reputation of being very aggresive all the time;almost had my leg off the other day:o Surely not all Rotweilers are like this;does anyone own a pleasant,passive Rotweiler?

I used to work in a kennels which took in a lot of rescued Rottweilers - we in a lot of cases the dogs had been badly abused/abandoned but responded very well to routine, food, exercise and calm treatment. I think they are lovely dogs.

After the Dangerous Dogs Act we also ended up with about 30 abandoned pit bulls. Some had their own special 'tricks' but none were dangerous with humans. The only one i did get attacked by was a privately owned dog in for the weekend. Luckily he had his muzzle on.

In my experience dogs rarely live up to their reputation (except springers and toy poodles!)

Whilst some dogs have basic characteristics based on their breed, the temperament of all dogs depends mainly on how they're brought up.

Example. My old German Shephard Max, he hated anyone coming into the house and didn't get along with other dogs. That's because we got him when my brother and I were kids and thought it was a good idea to teach him to be like that.

Zack, the German Shepherd we got just after xmas, is the complete opposite. He's slobbers over everyone and plays with every dog he see's. He's the daftest, most playful dog I've ever seen in my life! That's because he's had loads of time and good experiences with plenty of people and other dogs.

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Hi Sheffmail,

No, not all rotties are like this. I don't own one myself but my uncle used to and I know a couple of people who have them, there's one who's huge (about 11stone) that walks in the local park and he's soft as a brush!

They are lovely dogs but unfortunately have been bred by unscrupulous breeders to meet the demands for people looking for rotties. Mix the unscrupulous breeders who will breed any dog regardless of temperament and the types of owners who take these dogs (and train them to be aggressive) and you have a recipe for disaster.

All breeds have the odd individual who is aggressive for no apparent reason and rotties are no different.

I'm not saying your friend is a bad owner but usually there is a reason for it whether it be that the dog is a rescue and was abused, your friend bought the dog from a not-so-reputable breeder or whether your friend has trained the dog wrong.

All dogs respond to training in different ways and what may work for one dog doesn't work for another. Perhaps your friend thought there was only one way to train a dog and chose the wrong way for this particular dog?

My uncle actually rehomed his rottie. Why? Because he thought it'd be good fun to teach her that it's good to wrestle. Great when the guy on the floor with the dog is about 18 stone, not so good when the dog thinks she can do the same thing with the 2 year old twins. Not the dog's fault she was rehomed, she was lovely but was taught the wrong things.

The only reason rotties are so good at their breed purpose (guarding people and herds) is because they are very big, and very strong. In my opinion a well bred, well socialised and well trained rottie is no more aggressive than any other breed - just that those with an aggressive streak can, and do, inflict more damage.

I agree that not all dogs are like that. My whippet is exactly the same as you'd expect a whippet to be. Our GSD Kacey chases the postman, but wouldn't bite him :hihi:

I think it does depend on how the dogs are brought up. We tried and tried and FAILED to train our whippet to be calmer. She's so highly sprung she sets off running around the house and theres no stopping her. She gets walked three times a day, so I don't think she needs more excercise :hihi:

hello! hello! i own a rottie and she is definetly not aggressive 2 years ago i was driving up city rd(manor)when kids threw tia(rottie)onto the road i managed to stop and took her to moss way cop shop where she was checked out and it had looked like she had just had pups so they just had her for breeding.she was taken to hoylandswaine kennels and a week later they rung me to tell me they were puttin tia to sleep due to lack of placers in the rottie rescue,i also had 2 other dogs staffie and newfoundland so we decided to keep tia and she is absolutely marvellous.
she dont go on a lead walks at your side loves kids,got one with the other dogs.
the reputation of rotties is mainly due to how the dog is brought up,we had a male rottie called bruno when i was growing up and he weighed 18 stone and people used to cross over the road when they saw him due to bad press at the time,
the low life council nesbitts who get rottie always seem to bring them up as fighting dogs and also to make them "look hard"but a lately the new trend seem to be akitas

Dont correct my spelling:P .A freind of mine owns one and it realy lives up to that breeds reputation of being very aggresive all the time;almost had my leg off the other day:o Surely not all Rotweilers are like this;does anyone own a pleasant,passive Rotweiler?



I have a rottweiler so does my two freinds and cousin and aunt and now my sister is haveing a rottweiler pup in two weeks time all because they seen how nice these dog are, even i had money offerd me for my dog from the people at the kennels that look after my dog wile iam away, and also my bro in law with how loveing my dog is.

I also thought that Rottweiler was very aggresive till i met my aunts dog, My dog is now 2years old and she does let people know she is in the house and she like many dogs does let strangers know she there when they are comming on to my property. My dog is train to be a loveing house pet as well as a guard dog. She at home only want to sit with you and be stroked like a baby, but if someone she does not know pops into my home with out me then she will have a go but up to now her bark has keep people away as it is very strong bark. she is a big softy at heart, Even my mum was so scared of strong big dogs that now i have a Rottweiler she now even not scared to stroke the rottweilers wile she one holliday, as down ingoldmels every passer by as one of these dogs and she use to cross the road befor this. Not all rottweiler are agressive, my mum also got a jack russel and belive me that is very agressive most of the time and its a lot smaller then my dog.

In my experience dogs rarely live up to their reputation (except springers and toy poodles!)

What reputation did you expect from a springer.?

I was walking my dog (king charles) on a large field when in the distance i saw what looked like a smallish dog running towards me, as the dog approached it soon became evident that it was a rather largly built rottweiler that had a distinctly 'focused' look in its eyes. TBH i didnt have much time to react as the dog was mighty quick for such a large animal, i was just getting into panic mode ... do i try to save my dog, my daughter or myself ... just as a scooped my 6 year old up the rotteiler approached and with all its might ... jumped up and knocked me to the floor. as i layed there (moved my daughter underneath me to protect her) the beast put both paws on my chest, opened its mouth (showing a rather inpressive set of white nashers) and dropped the most disgusting, slimey wet tennis ball on my belly!

The dogs owner was running for all her might over to us, shouting to try to control her pet with no avail, but alas, all was ok, the dog was only 11 months old and just wanted to play, but it scared the bejeasus outta me.
and the worse part of the story ..... i had to pick up the slimey tennis ball to throw it for her.

any way, back on topic. I love all animal breeds, but in all honesty, i wouldnt have any dog that is more physically powerful then me whilst ive got kids in the house, whatever the breed.

:hihi: Do you live in Liverpool, Pinklady? was the dog called Dexy? :hihi:
Sounds exactly like my uncle's first ;)

(yes, training him not to have his paws all over people from first off would have been good, but his wife wasn't from a 'dog family' and how do you explain dog ownership to stupid people who think pups are cute? :mad: )

:hihi: Do you live in Liverpool, Pinklady? was the dog called Dexy? :hihi:
Sounds exactly like my uncle's first ;)

(yes, training him not to have his paws all over people from first off would have been good, but his wife wasn't from a 'dog family' and how do you explain dog ownership to stupid people who think pups are cute? :mad: )

no, im a sheffield born and bred

to be fair to the owner, the dog was just young, over excited and saw an opportunity to play.

I have recently been given a rottewiler, although I’m beginning to suspect it’s really a black and tan teddy bear for the kids, it loves playing with them and her other hobbies include chasing butterflies, not looking where she is going and crashing into the side of caravans.

She is also a very good ‘protect’ dog and likes looking out of the window & barking at anyone seen wearing a funny hat. She learns tricks very quickly, I am presently teaching her to recognise blonde ladies, knock them over and drop slimy tennis balls on them. (Hi Pinklady! :wave: )

This morning at about 5AM The dog and I were looking over our back wall when a cyclist went past, wearing a funny hat - I would just like to apologise to the poor bloke about the mutt doing its ‘Cerberus from hell’ bark and hope that his heartbeat finally returned to normal when he had finished emulating Evel Knievel...

I am presently teaching her to recognise blonde ladies, knock them over and drop slimy tennis balls on them. (Hi Pinklady! :wave: )


Dont you think she slobbers on me enough without the slimy tennis ball trick?:help:

:wave: Hi mantaspook .... say hello to ourj for me :wave:

Did anyone go to see 'Over the Hedge' that was in cinemas lately?

That's the best portrayal of a rottie I've seen so far. Everyone thought it was vicious but what the humans heard as barking, the animals heard as 'Play?'

Biggest, dopiest, loveliest dog - a brilliant portrayal even if the film itself was rather 'pants'.

Did anyone go to see 'Over the Hedge' that was in cinemas lately?

That's the best portrayal of a rottie I've seen so far. Everyone thought it was vicious but what the humans heard as barking, the animals heard as 'Play?'

Biggest, dopiest, loveliest dog - a brilliant portrayal even if the film itself was rather 'pants'.

I did. It was really funny.. :hihi:
I have to admit that I'm scared of rotties. Most of them, I think its their size.

i have a 4 year old rottie bitch and a jack russell. before i got her i always said i'd never have 1 cause they scared me. but i finally gave in and it was the bestest thing i've done. shes the softest most loving dog you could ever own, aswell as my other dog! she can be protective in the house but isn't that her job, i also have 5 kids and shes never even snapped at them. bad reputation doesn't mean all are the same.

i own a rottie and i can swear that it is the owners who are at fault, my rotties best friend is my 2 year old nephew and they snog each other , he is there straight away if my nephew cries to make sure he is ok, he plays with all other dogs and sits when they go for him and tries to kiss them to be friends. my dog would kiss any stranger not maul them. this is my second rottie, i admit i used to be scared of them years ago until i got to know one,now i have owned 2 all the ones that i know are cuddly lumps and no different to labordors. its such a shame what people do to all breeds of dogs and the poor dogs suffer.

I was walking my dog (king charles) on a large field when in the distance i saw what looked like a smallish dog running towards me, as the dog approached it soon became evident that it was a rather largly built rottweiler that had a distinctly 'focused' look in its eyes. TBH i didnt have much time to react as the dog was mighty quick for such a large animal, i was just getting into panic mode ... do i try to save my dog, my daughter or myself ... just as a scooped my 6 year old up the rotteiler approached and with all its might ... jumped up and knocked me to the floor. as i layed there (moved my daughter underneath me to protect her) the beast put both paws on my chest, opened its mouth (showing a rather inpressive set of white nashers) and dropped the most disgusting, slimey wet tennis ball on my belly!

The dogs owner was running for all her might over to us, shouting to try to control her pet with no avail, but alas, all was ok, the dog was only 11 months old and just wanted to play, but it scared the bejeasus outta me.
and the worse part of the story ..... i had to pick up the slimey tennis ball to throw it for her.

any way, back on topic. I love all animal breeds, but in all honesty, i wouldnt have any dog that is more physically powerful then me whilst ive got kids in the house, whatever the breed.

Thank you for the good laugh with your post- it's just how the one Rotty I know is too.

I take your serious point though- any dog has the capacity to do things that are scary/dangerous (even if they don't mean it to be that way), and things done by big powerful dogs just have the capacity to be more scary and more dangerous if the dogs are bigger than the children they are around.

I'm afraid they are going to get even more bad publicity now there has been another attack on a child by one. Makes you wonder what these owners do to them :loopy:

It sick the first one was a guard dog by sounds of it and should not have been allowed any were near the child.
I sorry rotti are either train as a guard dog or there a family pet they cant be both.:rant: :rant:

It sick the first one was a guard dog by sounds of it and should not have been allowed any were near the child.
I sorry rotti are either train as a guard dog or there a family pet they cant be both.:rant: :rant:

You know that's not entirely true. I well brought up loving dog will guard the family and their home with their life, so in effect, they can be both. Why people need to 'train' them to be guard dogs I don't know as they'd probably make better ones had they felt loved by their owners.

Our dog has never been allowed to be rough and she is good with the kids but I wouldn't trust her actions should anyone enter our home uninvited or try to harm any of us.

The two rotties that attacked this baby were apparently very aggressive dogs, that had been bred and raised to be aggressive.
Someone left the door open whilst removing furniture and the dogs got to the baby.

Now there has been another attack where a rottie attacked a little boy and was smashed over the head with a hammer to break up the attack. This dog was tethered in a garden but could still reach the baby boy. However, why was the dog allowed near the boy? and we don't know that the boy wasn't winding the dog up (perfectly innocently). If this is the case, he should have been better supervised and not allowed to aggrevate the dog.
DEFRA have said they are not reviewing the law on rotties as, in general they don't pose a threat.

Still the owners at fault if you ask me :rant:

What reputation did you expect from a springer.?

In my experience springers are all a bit mental! Gross generalisation I know but I have known a lot of them and even the highly trained gundogs are a bit loopy when they are 'off-duty'. Personally I think border collies and springers are unsuitable for domestic pets due to their working instincts and energy requiring a lot of training and exercise - v. unpredictable when bored and frustrated, esp. when getting on a bit.

Spinger can make lovely pets if they are kept busy and entertain every spinger i met as been lovely. Collie well there crackers i met alot of collie that are snappy but i do not belive this is the dogs promblem it becouse there to intelegent and they need to be simulted prefferbly worked.

I agree with you pinklady! Collies and springers are lovely dogs (my parents own a rescued springador as well as collie/flatcoat retriever cross - both rescued) but these breeds are definitely at their best when worked or at the very least trained well. I think it demonstrates well that any breed can be problematic when proper training and occupation is not applied.

exactly!

All dogs have the ability to get bored, and as such need to be trained. A trained dog is a happy dog. Not just because they know where they stand, but because they can do little jobs which pleases them.

Dalmatians are said to be untrainable. They're not, they just need to be kept busy as they get bored very, very easily.
I have Takara bringing me things all day and tell her to pick things up off the floor for me, find things in the park, jump over things - she always has to be learning new tricks. :lol:

Springers and collies are the same but I do know what you mean as far as them getting snappy when older - they can be like that, but I wouldn't say either breed was unsuitable as a pet, only unsuitable for certain families. The families who keep the dog busy, entertained and stimulated will get on well with one.

Now there has been another attack where a rottie attacked a little boy and was smashed over the head with a hammer to break up the attack. This dog was tethered in a garden but could still reach the baby boy. However, why was the dog allowed near the boy? and we don't know that the boy wasn't winding the dog up (perfectly innocently). If this is the case, he should have been better supervised and not allowed to aggrevate the dog.
DEFRA have said they are not reviewing the law on rotties as, in general they don't pose a threat.

Still the owners at fault if you ask me :rant:


Im sure read somewere that the child you are on about was hurt at his grandmothers house and she was looking affter the dog for someone, so why leave a small child with a dog i never know. I agree about the child must have upset the dog along the lines if not then why has it not gone for no one befor, and if im right in what i read then why did they agree to look after it in the first place if it is a nasty dog. Now i see people walk away from me because i have a rottweiler and she is the most tamed dog i had like i have said in a post about this, and you can see them watch my dog till they walked passed and you see that they are scared and i dont blame them as they dont know my dog but im fed up of people saying that all these dogs are dangerous. My neighbour got two yappy dogs i dont know the breed but they are very small long hair look like mops with legs as my neice calls them, and when he goes out with his dog's no lie they have a go and snarl and snap at people passing by, but because they are small i hear people just laugh has they are small dogs, now i wonder if my Rottweiler did the same i bet i have the police RSPCA and who ever els at my door.

I have a rotweiler client and believe me if this dog was a handful in anyway.theres no way would i offer our services to that client.
we have had this dog a number of times and she runs up to greet us and loves every minute of being here. Her owners are responsible and have treated her with the respect that a big dog and indeed any pet should have, and in return shes offered her faithful, passive loving nature :)
I find that people buy big dogs and let them get out of control and before they know it they cant handle the dog because of its size, then they start to get heavy handed with the dog slapping it , throwing things at it , yelling etc etc,and i really do think that when things get like that the dog will attack because with all the heavy handed treatment "Theyre knocking the devil in" as my gran would say

have had big-ish dogs all my life, mostly crosses, some rottie in there somewhere, all have been fantastic, the only small dog we have had is the papillon we have now, although he loves the family, he doesn't like small children, hates the postman, joggers, horses, men in general, i could go on. As long as he has a tennis ball on walks he's great, but he has seen off a mugger, the guys face was a picture!!!

I don't trust him with small children, he doesn't understand their bounciness, or heavy handed cuddles, he sees it as bad manners.
He's been trained etc just like the others, but he was born a 'grumpy git'

So to come to the point, we don't EVER leave him alone with small visitors, we loudly discourage children touching when we are out, we know our dog and take the neccessary precautions !!!!!!

A couple of my neighbours had 2 rotties and i`ve got to say they were brilliant, Bruce the elder one was a great big soft cuddly lump and as his tail hadn`t been docked he was the biggest waggiest dog on the planet, Later they got another one who who never grew to the size of Bruce but she was just as friendly and nice
They`ve both passed on now but i`ve got lost of good and funny memories about them, they were also very good with their 3 kids too.

My neighbour got two yappy dogs i dont know the breed but they are very small long hair look like mops with legs as my neice calls them, and when he goes out with his dog's no lie they have a go and snarl and snap at people passing by, but because they are small i hear people just laugh has they are small dogs, now i wonder if my Rottweiler did the same i bet i have the police RSPCA and who ever els at my door.This gets right up my nose :rant:

Why is it okay for a small yappy think to come flying at a bigger dog, all fur and teeth, and then the owner of said yappy thing demand the destruction of the bigger dog when yappy gets bitten? :mad:

*... and breathe :roll: *

Ive got a Rottie and an Akita, Both are big softie's.
Any sensible dog owner knows not to let ANY DOG be alone with a child.

From AKITA to YORKSHIRE TERRIER

No matter what or how you bring up yours dogs they are like people all have off days.

What are people's views about rottwieler ownership. Do some (not all) rottie owners get one to make them look 'hard'? And is this right or wrong. I say wrong. It is the wrong reason to get an animal.

I can see this thread being a big debate. I once said something similar about staffies, as living where I live the majority of people that have them are people who dont work who hang round the streets all day looking scruffy. Not saying that applies to all owners, its just an observation where I live.

I wouldn't have brought this subject up though (im too scared lol!)

like pit bulls the easy way to know if a dog is a pit bull is look at the eyes do they have a glazed over look, is the forehead sloped back and boney is the nose squat and looks like its been pushed in?

if the owner has these characters on their face chances are the dog is a pit bull:thumbsup:

people have made remarks about my dogs being banned,should be muzzled etc....these remarks are usually made to my wife when she's out alone with them(how brave) its the same old argument a dog will act how its taught to act,my dogs are very well behaved when out in public and having met strix once when i was out with em i'm sure she'll vouch for me....if she doesn't i'll set mi dogs on her:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Well people with small minds would come to that conclusion. I personally have a staffy who by the way has a very butch name she is called poppy. And funnily I am at work now and in a business suite so it must be the are that people live in. My best friend has had rotties for years as if they are trained and looked after they are smashing dogs. Plus I could never see his wife being attacked home as he works away these days during the week and they look after each other.

Its not a good idea to cast aspersions on people just because of the type of dog they have as it is unfair on the on owners and the dogs as a breed.

I hate to see bad mannered dogs. And the bigger the dog the more potential danger IMO. Rotties are one of the breeds who have to be taught strictly as they can be a bit dense I think.. I heard a rubbish theory once about some muscle on the back of their neck growing thick and pressing down on their brain causing them to flip out :gag: Sounds like a load of tosh to me, seeing as the brain is encased within the skull :loopy: More like poor breeding!

Well people with small minds would come to that conclusion. I personally have a staffy who by the way has a very butch name she is called poppy. And funnily I am at work now and in a business suite so it must be the are that people live in. My best friend has had rotties for years as if they are trained and looked after they are smashing dogs. Plus I could never see his wife being attacked home as he works away these days during the week and they look after each other.

Its not a good idea to cast aspersions on people just because of the type of dog they have as it is unfair on the on owners and the dogs as a breed.

ooh carpetviper i can beat that for a butch name my staffys called porridge!
and my rottie is called teapot

i think dogs are fashion now and that is sad indeed as many people dont have a clue what a dog needs it dosnt just need food and water and walk .. its for just the rotties its the toys.. all breeds i dislike the fact that people get fighting dogs to look like they fight too.. its a shame ---

I hate to see bad mannered dogs. And the bigger the dog the more potential danger IMO. Rotties are one of the breeds who have to be taught strictly as they can be a bit dense I think.. I heard a rubbish theory once about some muscle on the back of their neck growing thick and pressing down on their brain causing them to flip out :gag: Sounds like a load of tosh to me, seeing as the brain is encased within the skull :loopy: More like poor breeding!


rotties are very loving careing dogs... it is not the breed it is the owner i doubt that you have ever owned a rottie as then you would know what there actully like .. you will find that little toy dogs have less manners than your large dogs ... This preception is just a sterotype that is not true rotties are family dogs there gental, loving and very rewarding dog.. it is never the dog that is untrained it is always the owner !

I agree with that jennyjenjen. I used to have a rottie, and he was the most docile and loving pet. I now have a doberman, and he is possibly the biggest wimp I have ever known! His bark is most definitely worse than his bite!

It is not the breed of dog it is the 'breeding' and the bringing up, If you breed two dogs with 'bad' traits then they will transfer to the pups. Many dogs are blamed for their owners short commings. If you notice a dog breed gets popular, the world and his wife go out and get one, creating back yard breeders and badly bred dogs, they havnt reserched the breed and therefore cant give the dog what it needs. then we get naughty dogs. first it was GSD, then Staffy, then Akitas, then Rotties. All these breeds can be wonderful if they are brought up correctly. More people are bitten by Jack russells but because they only have a small mouth and dont cause the same amount of damage a large dog would it aint front page news. Some people wont rest till all these breeds are on the Dangerous Dogs list!

Claire

Only the owners can be blamed but unfortunately, big dogs get more press because IF they do turn, they cause more damage.

In fact, I've met far more aggressive little dogs which again is often down to the owners, if a small yorkshire terrier barks and runs at other dogs/people, it's apparently cute, if a rottie does it it's not.

Having said that, owners can't be blamed all the time, often a dog's temperament is inherited, or a bad experience as a puppy will affect it for life no matter what the owner does to try and resocialise the dog. You can't tar all people with the same brush.

Going back to the original question - I think, yes, unfortunately there are many people who buy dogs to make themselves look hard and, having recently come across a dog fighting forum, I can't quite believe how stupid some people are. However, I know of a few rottie and dobe owners with lovely dogs and who have worked hard on them.

Until the postman saw my little dally, he thought she was a big rottie just from her bark - just shows how wrong you can be...

hey and btw i just wanted to note that i wasnt just aiming at henrietta.. was a general statement just you brung it up hehe :s

rotties are the cutiest !!! hehe i love them, and i agree with Lotti too.. bigger dogs are more danger in the wrong hands but that is the dogs natural nature not just the rottie as you also pointed out..
bottom line is tho that its a bad impression on one of the not so violent dogs .. take the bull mastive and boxers there all soft in the head! lovuing and funny as hell !!!!!!!
just a dog nature is what it is cannot be helped by bad ownership and fustration..

Im a rottwiler owner as is my aunt and sister and friend who breeds them. We did not get them to look hard at all. I find the breed of dog to be very loveing careing breed just like ours are. Yes just like many breeds of dog not just the rottwiler does bark when someone come to the door. But not one time have they attack anyone in the street wile out walking, Yes some people do cross the road to avoid us but also 9 times out of 10 many people can not belive how fussy and loveing our dogs are to when we are out and they get to stroke them. All dogs can be dangerous but also it how you bring a dog up. Mine does protect the house as she does have a very strong bark, but when we are home she like a big baby just sit with you and want to be stroked and loved.

I known many little dogs that have attack people wile ive been out, I know a neighbour who little ankle biters go for people in the street but they just hoo and arrr at them because they are small, now that get me mad as if that was my dog then i know i be reported right away.

we have 2 staffs and a german shepherd , but i get fed up evertime i take the big staff out ,And he is a big heavy dog been stopped in the street people asking if hes had his first fight yet ,or another one i get on a regular basis.
i bet hes a top fighting dog.
it gets me so mad .
hes the most gentle dog ever no more .
he stands near the kitchen cupboards so my lil one can get biscuits out of the top cuboard .
he would never make a guard dog
unless he frigtened people of with his snoring ,lol
hes sutch a softy .
the other staff is scared of her own shadow
and the german shepherd all though a very keen house dog loves nothing better than sitting and watching the rabbit .
but staffs as well get a lot of bad press more times than not people will cross over the road rather than walk past my staffs
if only a few more people realised what lovley dogs they really are.

Dlee my brother has a staff and he been asked the same question as well when he out and about, His staff is the same soft as a brush, but he does snarl at people when the dog think my bro kids are getting beaten up when his mates play fight with them as the dog just protecting them, but apart from that the staff is loveing dog. I remeber one time as he use to take the dog to the pub and anouther bloke use to ask about the dog fighting with other dogs, then he used to call my bro a wuss just because he not let his staff go into a fight with anouther. Its people like them that do put other owners with dogs that are prone to be nasty that are not into the bad rep of the breed because of the rep these dogs sopose to have. I know more "freindly" breed dog attack people yet you never see it on the news or in the papers.

yep i know what you mean.ive been told i must be off my head for not letting him fight and they were talkin about proper organised dog fighting.
i would never dream of letting any of my dogs get into any kind of fight. not that they would any way as they hide behind me,
just the thought of people thats if you can call them that taking there dogs out to fight makes me sick.
i would never let my babies get hurt in any way shape or form:thumbsup:

I am picking a rottie boy up from the pound today.
about 3 yrs old. He was found wandering with a collar on that was probably first put on as a 1 yr old and its digging into his neck. He had terrible entropians - which means his eye balls get scratched every time he blinks. This has probably been like this for at least 2 years. Can you imagine that - every blink - every day - and your eyeball is scratched.
Yet
His temprament is brilliant.
How on earth these creatures still love people is beyond me.
Usually the ones that turn nasty - have just been pushed beyond reasonable.

Lets hope we can find a nice home for him for the remainder of his life - watch the site he is called BOYCIE.

i too have got a rottie ( and an akita) the rottie is called Murphy , hes absolutly barmy just a big soft baby. All he wants is to play CONSTANTLY. hes brilliant with people that come in the house or the shop, hes just not very good outside. He gets on like an house on fire with my other dog and the cats ( hes actually scared of the cats) but he doesnt like other dogs. My akita is called Storm, shes totally chilled out. she is usually at the shop with shane everyday and just sits outside the only time shes gone for another dog is when they have ran upto my kids shes brill at lookin after the kids ( she would merrily ignore them otherwise)


rainrescue.... awww i hope BOYCIE brings you loadsa years of love. the poor thing its awful what some animals have to go thru. big big sqwishy hugs to him from me xxxxxx :love:

I am picking a rottie boy up from the pound today.
about 3 yrs old. He was found wandering with a collar on that was probably first put on as a 1 yr old and its digging into his neck. He had terrible entropians - which means his eye balls get scratched every time he blinks. This has probably been like this for at least 2 years. Can you imagine that - every blink - every day - and your eyeball is scratched.
Yet
His temprament is brilliant.
How on earth these creatures still love people is beyond me.
Usually the ones that turn nasty - have just been pushed beyond reasonable.

Lets hope we can find a nice home for him for the remainder of his life - watch the site he is called BOYCIE.

good luck with him mate:thumbsup:

people have made remarks about my dogs being banned,should be muzzled etc....these remarks are usually made to my wife when she's out alone with them(how brave) its the same old argument a dog will act how its taught to act,my dogs are very well behaved when out in public and having met strix once when i was out with em i'm sure she'll vouch for me....if she doesn't i'll set mi dogs on her:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
ive seen your dogs ( except the baby) and they are totally gorgouse, very well behaved and definatly have that snog n sqwish factor :love: :love:

ive seen your dogs ( except the baby) and they are totally gorgouse, very well behaved and definatly have that snog n sqwish factor :love: :love:


cheers your witchyness:)

ooh carpetviper i can beat that for a butch name my staffys called porridge!
and my rottie is called teapot


LOL it really gets me when people see a staffy and take me as a chav they dont know how good staffy's are as a breed.

they are true words spoken

Only the owners can be blamed but unfortunately, big dogs get more press because IF they do turn, they cause more damage.

In fact, I've met far more aggressive little dogs which again is often down to the owners, if a small yorkshire terrier barks and runs at other dogs/people, it's apparently cute, if a rottie does it it's not.

Having said that, owners can't be blamed all the time, often a dog's temperament is inherited, or a bad experience as a puppy will affect it for life no matter what the owner does to try and resocialise the dog. You can't tar all people with the same brush.

Going back to the original question - I think, yes, unfortunately there are many people who buy dogs to make themselves look hard and, having recently come across a dog fighting forum, I can't quite believe how stupid some people are. However, I know of a few rottie and dobe owners with lovely dogs and who have worked hard on them.

Until the postman saw my little dally, he thought she was a big rottie just from her bark - just shows how wrong you can be...

Good point. I'm sure many rotties can be brought up in such a way that they are well behaved and not out of control. Unfortunately, there are people who like having such dogs so they can deliberately make them aggressive (or perhaps deliberately bring out their aggressive tendencies). If there are illegal dog fights going on that that is awful. Dog fighting can lead to terrible inmjuries to dogs and is just a way of making a quick buck for the unscrupelous owners.:rant:

Which is why more should be done to prevent such people from being able to own dogs at all :mad:

Don't get me wrong! I was brought up with GSD's and understand the necessity to raise a dog with clear rules and to make sure it 'knows its place'.

With bigger dogs and those with a more protective nature its even more important to stamp the rules down from the very start. An ill mannered, uncontrollable or aggressive animal is always due to the way in which it was raised.. and this trouble is aggravated by poor breeding lines

I have seen some big dogs who have been given free rein since they were young, and its terribly sad the way they turn out... not to mention high risk.

If I am ever able to get a dog and give it the time it needs I'd for sure be getting what I term a 'proper' dog i.e. GSD, Mastiff etc :hihi:

Four years ago i bought a Rottie he was the most even tempered dog i have ever had. At the time we had a westie bitch who used to make him sleep in her small basket while she lolled in his and he did with out a moan.When i took him for a walk people would cross the street to avoid him. I was also asked by a woman waiting in the vets if i would take him outside as he made her uneasy. Sam was totally harmless he would not hurt anyone you were more likely to get a nip from the westie. Its how you bring your dog up and teach it how to behave. Some people dont have the brains to have a goldfish never mind a rottie or other "Dangerous"dog. Sadly Sam had to be put to sleep when he was 3 as he had leukemia. But you cant blame the dog its the owners who are at fault.I actually bought sam as a guard dog as my husband worked away from home, but a guard dog he was not he would let any one in our house and not bat an eyelid. I miss him so much even now.

Who watches 'Dog Borstal' on bbc3??

I watch it with the same disbelief and horror as I do with some of the 'Supernanny' programmes

i have a rottie bitch. shes 4 now and she is the softest most loving dog you could wish for. i also have a jack russell. like others have said people do cross the road when you walk a rottie but they all want to stroke the "little" dog. well all i can say is don't judge a book by its cover.:love:

I just thought I had to add an update to my thread about the rottie i picked up last week. Well I am not a rottie person, I don't feel that I can read them as well as some breeds - so I was a little cautious as I always am with new dogs.

However, he came in looking like he had been through a car window. Double entropians (upper and lower lids) and a castrate AND HE STILL LOVED PEOPLE. He has got sores on every joint where he has obviously been laying outside on the wet concrete.

However, Harley (nee Boycie) just loves life - he loves people and he can't thank me enough. He is even happy to play with his toys on his own - but its much nicer if he has me there to play as well. He lets me bathe his eyes and put his cream in - and still manages to give me a slobbery kiss.

What makes it even better - his new family have already seen him - passed all the checks and are coming back from Norfolk for him on Sunday. I can't wait until he gets in a proper home bless him.

Dogs like this should be splattered all over the newspapers - but i dare say they wont sell many papers about nice dogs, about dogs that put up with all the sh** that humans throw at them, and still love us.

Just thought you would like to know.

Who watches 'Dog Borstal' on bbc3??

I watch it with the same disbelief and horror as I do with some of the 'Supernanny' programmes
I have seen it twice, and have watched with a quite different disbelief to that reserved for 'Supernanny' progs - Supernanny doesn't swear or abuse the parents :rant:

Rainrescue - my point exactly. I don't believe we are in the grip of an epidemic of dog attacks as the papers would have you believe. I believe we're in the grip of an epidemic of hysteria brought about by our delightful gutter press :mad:

Supernanny doesn't swear or abuse the parents
Some of those owners need sworn at to have some sense fired into them TBH! Treating their animals like spoilt children and allowing them to get away with anything

That isn't an excuse to be swearing at the camera behind the owner's back ;)

I hate tabloid TV :rolleyes:

They had the opportunity to make a good informative prog there, and instead it's been lowered to the level of Chat magazine, sensationalising bad behaviour... from all quaters :mad:

Just saw the news today and was thinking what bad press they're getting. I've never met one but I think the SY police have started training them as police dogs so they must not be the type of breed the press are portraying them as.
Lack of training or control from the owners I suspect....?:confused:

My nan used to have one, and she was as soft as a brush. She used to hide with me under the bed in thunderstorms :hihi:

I have one and she is soft as [muck]

Was just doing my daily check of rescue websites (my boyfriend wants and english bull terrier) and I noticed that on the RSPCA bawtry website their 1st dog, and so I assume probably been there the longest, is a rottweiler type dog. But after all the bad press they have he's going to have a hard time wooing a new owner. :(

ive got one too. Murphy is daft as a brush and really loving, he plays with the kids and sleeps on my bed ( his snoring drives me mad tho :hihi: ) Outside its abit different cos he seems over protective. He gets on brilliantly with my other dog ( an akita) and my cats altho hes scared of one of the cats.

nobody ever says anything about the nasty evil little ratty yappy dogs that go out of their way to bite people, for some reason people think its cute when they go on one :suspect:

They also attack rottweilers :mad:

The problems my uncle's had with yappy things going for his grott when he's got as short a lead as possible on his dog :mad:

They also attack rottweilers :mad:

The problems my uncle's had with yappy things going for his grott when he's got as short a lead as possible on his dog :mad:

tell me about it :rant: i ended up with 2 broken fingers, one that is still a funny shape 18 months later, because i stupid man had his yappy thing off a lead and it ran upto our murphy who then yanked his lead out of my hand that hard that it snapped both my fingers, Murphy didnt hurt the other dog but he chased it , sniffed it then came back but the dogs man was going blue in the face and blaming me :loopy:

oh and there was dogs must be kept on a lead signs alover :suspect:

We had a rottie and a cocker spaniel and beleive me you had to be more aware of the spaniel. My rottie was a soppy big thing she was lovely R.I.P Olga xxx

While walking my little spotty devil girl, I met one.

Takara went running upto a little black and tan terrier cross and was incredibly alarmed when an 11 stone rottie came out of the bushes, face to face with her.

She was a bit stunned as he towered above her and his owner shouted to me 'he's ok - he's ok he's not aggressive'. I didn't think he was :lol:

They got on like a house on fire but the little one was a nasty little sod. Just goes to show doesn't it.

He was big though, not at all fat but weighed 11 stone. She had to sit on him when we left because he wanted to follow us.

He was boootiful :love:

Also there's one gets walked in Endcliffe park. She is walked offlead and left offlead outside the cafe and she just sits there waiting for her owner to come back, doesn't pester or upset anyone.

My uncle had one and they're great dogs but you need to have control over them because they are just so strong. He ended up rehoming his because although she was soft as a brush, he'd taught her to playfight and she kept jumping on the twins who were only tiny and squashing them. :rolleyes:

My friend's got one and he is adorable! Feel so sorry for the breed at the mo because of all the bad press they're getting when it's the irresponsible owners who are to blame

I dont own one but I would love one But it would have to like other dogs and be ok at being left during the day. Any offers you know where I am.

We've got one, he's lovely he's that placid we've had to get a dog cage for our little Patterdale Terrier puppy to use as "time out" to give the Rottie a rest from being ragged around.

just popped on to have a moan about why some people think that rotties are killer dogs from hell, i have owwned rottweilers for a number of years and have rescued many from various shelters, i have yet to come across one which is vicious, i am not saying that all rotties are gentle giants but most of the time it is human neglect that turns a dog. just this morning while out with my rottie, a woman shouted that she tried to bite her by merely trotting over for a smell!! this resulted in an out and out slanging match with her just because she had got a fecking poodle. do poodles not bite then?? is there something genetically different about them???. all dogs are capable biting albeit rottweilers have the capacity to do more damage. has anyone else encounted this problem while out with their dog??:confused:

Rotties IMHO are no worse than any other breed, if they are properly trained. The trouble is that half of the time it's the owner who needs training and not the dog, because in some cases the dog has more brain than the owner.

owners do need to be a bit more responsible, but that's the same for any dog really.
the public need to stop believing everything in the press and think for themselves for a change.

All the Rottweilers I've come across have been big softies, but they are very protective of the alphas (their master/mistress and family), so can sometimes come across as vicious, just because they bark.

There are loads of other breeds that get a bad press, but the above applies to those, in most cases.

with them being big dogs if they do attack they do a lot of damage like bull terriers do because they are powerfully built but these breeds are no more vicous than any other breed most times bad owners are to blame

Any animal has the ability to turn nasty even a hamster. A lot of problems are caused by humans . Rotties do have a bad reputation fact. People's reactions to them make me laugh mine is scared of her own shadow and so soft it is untrue (unless any potential villians are reading this:hihi: ) I took her out for a walk and called at the garage on the way home the number of people that avoided us was unbelievable.

i get that all the time ourjs.. some people are so stupid:loopy:

Rotties have a bad reputation because of the idiots that buy them believing they make them look 'hard' and so train the dog to be nasty. These dogs then get all the bad press but the only reason these dogs appear to bite more than other breeds is because these idiots don't buy golden labs to make them look 'hard'. One day they might all wake up and realise that all they look is stupid :rolleyes:

I'm not saying all rottie owners are like that by the way :)

Did anyone ever see 'Over The Hedge' when it was showing at cinemas? There was a rottie in that and I thought it just showed how they are misunderstood, the characters in the film were terrified of it, but in actual fact the scary bark that they could hear was the dog shouting 'PLAY!'

I agree, it's the fact that rotties are strong. They are no more likely to attack they just do more damage.

The press has a heck of a lot to answer for especially when reporting on cases without knowing all the facts and guessing the breed of dog.

And as for your question about poodles, I can remember being warned about standard poodles when I was a child, long before anyone mentioned vicious rotties! (Not that that means all standard poodles are vicious, but they too are big, strong dogs, able to cause damage).

sorry but aren't poodles known for being highly strung and vicious dont forget you can get big poodles too.

I don't think that there's anything worse or better about Rotties than about any other breed- there's just more potential damage when things go wrong with bigger dogs.

I saw someone get bitten by a Westie yesterday- it bled exactly the same colour as it would have done if she'd been bitten by a gerbil, a Westie or an Akita.

I get the same negative reaction whilst walking my Staffordshire Bull terrier. She's a right daft softy. I was once walking her on the pavement and an old lady walking her jack russell the other way (Who was actually growling at Tia) hit my dog with her walking stick and said "Get that bloody vicious thing away from me" I shall not repeat what I said to her but it's arse*oles like that, that cause problems.
I'm proud that my dog is happy, well socialised, well mannered, trained and friendly - That is not to say she may not turn one day as could any dog.

My family have had poodles for years, the little ones tend to be more highly strung and snappy. We had a minuture called Ted and he suffered with little man syndrome. He was cute but pure evil. We have got a 12yr old standard at the moment and she is absolutley beautifully natured.

Just for the record, Rottie's are my favorite breed. Would love one but unfortunatley my house isn't big enough! One day!!

x

I don't think that there's anything worse or better about Rotties than about any other breed- there's just more potential damage when things go wrong with bigger dogs.

I saw someone get bitten by a Westie yesterday- it bled exactly the same colour as it would have done if she'd been bitten by a gerbil, a Westie or an Akita.
The colour of the leakage is usually immaterial, it's the quantity you lose that matters!

I get the same negative reaction whilst walking my Staffordshire Bull terrier. She's a right daft softy. I was once walking her on the pavement and an old lady walking her jack russell the other way (Who was actually growling at Tia) hit my dog with her walking stick and said "Get that bloody vicious thing away from me" I shall not repeat what I said to her but it's arse*oles like that, that cause problems.
I'm proud that my dog is happy, well socialised, well mannered, trained and friendly - That is not to say she may not turn one day as could any dog.

My family have had poodles for years, the little ones tend to be more highly strung and snappy. We had a minuture called Ted and he suffered with little man syndrome. He was cute but pure evil. We have got a 12yr old standard at the moment and she is absolutley beautifully natured.

Just for the record, Rottie's are my favorite breed. Would love one but unfortunatley my house isn't big enough! One day!!

x

I can tell you the exact location of where that stick would've been if it had hit my dog!!

Likewise, my elderly dalmatian who I got with nervous aggression problems is now very good with other dogs and when we were walking on the Bolehills the other day we saw someone with two small dogs (lhasas or shihtzus - sorry I can't tell the difference!!) so I put my elderly dog on his lead as he doesn't like small dogs. One of these dogs (both were offlead) ran past making the most horrendous noise! I don't know what he was trying to say but he was very vocal! He wasn't being aggressive and didn't go upto my dogs but I know that if my dogs had been making that amount of noise, or another large dog had been making that amount of noise, the streets would've cleared!!

But it's ok - this one could get away with the noise because it was small and cute :rolleyes:

I get sick of people tarring dogs with nasty brushes :loopy: I had a call from a lady the other day asking if I would groom her Akita, she had phoned 5 groomers in the yellow pages, before she got to me and had been rudely told "wouldnt touch it with a bargepole" and some had even put the phone down :suspect:

She was over the moon when I told her I would come out to him and she went on to explain what a big softie he is :hihi:

Oh well there loss my gain ;)

Just to give my 2 penneth ( i wont go on and on cos ive said this loads of times on the forum)

i have a rotty, hes a big daft lad called Murphy. He isnt nasty and will let anyone in the house the only danger he is , is of squashing people or slavvering them to death. earlier on he thought it was his duty to wash the kittens :hihi:
BUT outside he can come across as nasty because he is so protective and just likes to show off, a couple of years ago he went for a yorkie ( the yorkie wasnt on a lead and was running upto him all yappy and teeth out. Murphy pulled the lead so hard it broke 2 of my fingers, he chased the little dog caught it looked at it then came running back. The bloke whos dog it was was having a dicky fit, i was in shock & pain and just apologised but really it should have been him saying sorry.. big signs everywhere saying dogs must be kept on leads :rant:
we only let him look at the kittens when we are holding them, not because i think he would ever intentionally hurt them but he is heavy and clumsy. Infact he is petrified of my grown up cats :hihi:

I take my dalmatian out with a rottie and hes a perfect gentleman!!!
he's the clumsiest softest dog you could ever wish to meet.

Also know a copule of other rotties and i have to say have never come accross a vicious one yet!! im sure there is a nasty one somewhere but this is true of all breeds.
The one we go out with gets jumped allover by ruby and has never so much as growled at her:huh:

Ihave to say the nastiest dog i ever encounterd was actually a poodle!!!
VILE :gag:

Threads merged and title changed :thumbsup:

I have just taken a gorgeous rottie lady into rescue today. Her temprament is superb, and a true credit to the breed.

She is so gobsmacked at being put into a kennel tonight - she can't unerstand it. Strikes me as one that has been in a lovely home, and had a terrible shock.

Hope she wont be in rescue for long, but with all the stupid media hype going on about them - people are just so pathetic for believing it. You will tell me next that the politicians never lie - tut!! and I believed in fairy tails.

I have just taken a gorgeous rottie lady into rescue today. Her temprament is superb, and a true credit to the breed.

She is so gobsmacked at being put into a kennel tonight - she can't unerstand it. Strikes me as one that has been in a lovely home, and had a terrible shock.

Hope she wont be in rescue for long, but with all the stupid media hype going on about them - people are just so pathetic for believing it. You will tell me next that the politicians never lie - tut!! and I believed in fairy tails.

omg............... gunna ake shane up ,see if we possibly have space,

What did he say Litha?

She's offline :suspect:

How many dogs have you got in now RR?

Does this mean I'm back on dog walking duty?

Well - after it being quiet for a few days - I have 3 tonight -
Heidi, Joe and Jade.
A bullmastiff boy coming in tomorrow morning, and hopefully Joe going into foster with Misbehavin assuming we can clean the smelly old ding batt up first)
then monday got a 12wk old ish gsd babe coming in.
so YES!!!!! Strix would love to see you - all of them are gorgeous atm so I sure you will have fun.
x
So Litha - what did he say?

tskkkkkk he looked at me as if i was mental :suspect: and asked if i was actually serious :|

i suppose he has got a point seen as now the kittens are actually getting everywhere and take more looking after than enough.

i have got to stop reading the pets section of the forum ... im to weak :hihi:

Iv'e got 3 rotties, mother, son and daughter, they are so loving and funny, the daughter wathes tv and even knows which adverts have animals on them to which she shakes her head making funny noises with a popped football in her mouth.

The son thinks he's still a puppy and wants to sit on my knee or who evers knee he can get on and as for mom she barks on command listens to everything you say to her with her head moving from side to side. They are the best dogs in the world, imo lol :hihi: