I lived in Wincobank on Newman Drive, In 1974 I went to live in New Zealand, I went to Hinde House School and wondered if anyone remembers me "Nadine Harrison". friends were Lorraine Hunt, Pauline Guite, neighbours were Christine Siddall.
I have a half brother and sister, called Richard and Karen Jones, does anyone know them, Karen would be about 40 and Richard about 36, and am looking for some family history.
This site is very interesting and brings back lots of memories.

I remember Christine Siddall; she was a good-looking, blonde girl about three years older than me when I attended Concord Middle School 1969- 1974. She was a friend of the equally gorgeous Linda Maycock, if I recall. Don't know where they are now, but Siddall definately still lives in Sheffield. I know this because I was recently joking about who the most attractive people were at school with my sister and brother-in-law, and Siddall's name cropped up as my suggestion for the best -looking girl. My sister told me that she had recently seen her [not to speak to] in town.

Nadine, just been talking to my sister, and she may be able to contact Christine Siddall if you wish. My sister's friend is in some way connected with Julie Siddall [the younger sister of Christine]. I don't know the other people you mention. Actually, I don't know Christine either; she was just a rather glamorous figure myself and mates admired from afar when she graced our playground all those years ago! If she can help you find your relatives, I will do what I can to put you in touch. Let me know.

Hi Timo
Where abouts did you live in Wincobank, what is it like now, I lived next door to the Siddall family for 10 years, Christine was a bit younger than me, but I think she would remember me, I remember her sister Julie and brother Martin, but they were quite young then.
I think my half brothers girlfriend went to Hinde House, she would be in her thirtys and her family live on Monkton Road, but do not know anything more than that.
I didnt go to Concord school, I was the last year to go straight from Wincobank to Hinde House, used to go to the Top Rank in Sheffield all the time and try and sneak in under age for a lime and lager at the pubs

Hi Nadine, I used to live on Standon Road. I now live in Southport [seaside town on north west coast] with my wife, and I lecture at an old University in the north west region. We left Sheffield in 1991, for Nottingham, then Lydiate near Liverpool and now Southport. I regularly visit Sheffield to see friends, relatives and to support United. My mother and married sister now live in Sothall [near Beighton], so I don't get to see Wincobank very often. What I have seen has not impressed me, as it appears to have rapidly deteriorated over the last ten years, as has Firth Park. You probably know that there is the huge Meadowhall shopping centre on the former site of Hadfields. Sadly, I believe our beloved chippy too bit the dust some years ago. I don't think you would recognise Wincobank now, but the school is still there.
To reiterate, if you think it worthwhile, I can pass a message to the Siddalls through my sister's friend. I sincerely hope that you find your relatives. Don't give up searching.
All the best,
Tim

Timo
Thanks for your offer with Julie Siddall,
Sounds like you made a good move, I remember Standon Road, My Father worked at Arthur Lees, think the Meadowhall shopping centre may be near that site also, as that was demolished.

We could see the big cooling towers and the gasometers from our house and the tinsley viaduct, are those things still there.
My dad bought our house on Newman Drive when it was newly built, that would have been in about 1964 and we left England in 1974, we used to go over the hill behind Newman Road and walk to Brightside, are those old terraced houses still there,
I must go back for a trip one day,

Nadine, the cooling towers and Tinsley viaduct are still there, but Meadowhall shopping centre takes up much of the former landscape. It still looks pretty bleak! I think I'll stick to Southport, but I'll always be fond of Wincobank as I had such a great childhood, and the area gave me a toughness which has always stood me in good stead. The people were never whingers, unlike the Liverpudlians I know...

I agree about the toughness, I did not realise how tough things had been until I moved away, and I often wonder about all the people I knew and what they are doing now.
Saw the "Full Monty" and remembered a few landmarks

nsiebert.
I pm'd you yesterday.
Ive just noticed this old thread and yes i remember you.
i think you are about a year younger than me.
i was in mrs wild's class at wincobank and my friends then were
beverley johnson, zana french, june wilcox, jacqueline stretch,
karen green, oh and ian terry.

Nsiebert

I work with a lass that lives close if not on the same road as Christine and will also along with Timo try and put you in contact this week.
My dads mate was a forman at Arthur Lees and his name is Harry Walker. Do you think your dad will remember him, if your dad is still around.
Timo I was in the same class as Linda Maycock and worried about your eyesight mate:D .
I found her mouthy and full of herself and did not find her attractive though she did have a sort of sex appeal.:heyhey:

Cycleracer
My Dad died 5 years ago, and left Arthur Lees in 1974, he would have been 56 then, is your Dad still alive does he remember my Dad (Jack Harrison), when did Arthur Lees close, did they build the Meadowhall shopping centre on or around that site.
It was a hard life going to work and coming home in the dark, and for ages in the early 70's they had 3 day weeks and things were pretty tough, that is when he decided to come to NZ, but because of the downturn, hardly anyone was selling and buying in the area, and it look 18months to sell the house.

Originally posted by nsiebert
Cycleracer
My Dad died 5 years ago, and left Arthur Lees in 1974, he would have been 56 then, is your Dad still alive does he remember my Dad (Jack Harrison), when did Arthur Lees close, did they build the Meadowhall shopping centre on or around that site.
It was a hard life going to work and coming home in the dark, and for ages in the early 70's they had 3 day weeks and things were pretty tough, that is when he decided to come to NZ, but because of the downturn, hardly anyone was selling and buying in the area, and it look 18months to sell the house.
Nsiebert.
My Dad died 24 years ago but it was not him who worked there it was his friend.
He is also no longer with us.
I'm not sure exactly were Arthur Lees was only that I used to see him on the number 4 bus in Firthpark on his way to work.

Cycleracer
Arthur Lees made pressed stainless steel and was at the bottom end of Wincobank, I think where the shopping centre would now be.
The steel used to run through the factory getting thinner and thinnner, dark and grimy,
I used to travel regularly on the No.4 bus into town, I remember if you got on the bus when the men were coming home from work, you could smell the factory and steel, as it travelled through to town past the factories and British Steel etc,
Are all those factories still there,

No all the steel works are all but gone now apart from a section of Firth Browns and Tinsley Wire.
The East end is a lot better these days but there is still a lot of land were the steel works used to be.
Its mainly a leisure area now cinemas and shops.
I will take some pics of the area including your native Wincobank and send them you if you are interested including your old home.

Paul

Hi
That would be great, I stumbled across someone giving the email address for the www.friendsreunited.co.nz website, and listed there are all the people I went to school with, so I have joined, do you know about that website

I am a member of the British one which you have to pay but its not really viable for me to join the NZ one which is a seperate subscription.

Cycleracer, yes I agree, Maycock WAS mouthy and full of herself but in a sexy way! Again, I think it was the sultry eyes that did it for me. Siddall was the more attractive of the two, though. If she remembers a fair-haired kid, about three years younger called Tim, who used to stare at her goggle-eyed and open-mouthed at Concord Middle School; the daft bugger was me! It is great that you are helping Nadine with the contact and the photos. All the best to you, mate. By the way, saw your message to me on the "Firth Park Ghost" thread; yes, we are both suffering from PES [Post-Edwards Syndrome]!

Originally posted by timo
think it was the sultry eyes that did it for me.
Timo, she did have sultry eyes sort of slanting, almost oriental and thats what I remember her for to.
Did you know Pat Marsh and Clare o Dea.

Cycleracer, I worked very briefly with Clare O'Dea at Fine Fare Supermarket, Firth Park when I was still in the Sixth Form at Hinde House. She worked in the office there, under two complete prawns by the names of Carrington and Corker. I was stacking shelves in the evening two nights a week. She was, if I recall, petite with short blonde hair. Very pleasant girl. Her younger brother was my age, but never in my class; Eugene. She was better looking than him...

Timo & Cycleracer
I knew Clare O'Dea, as I was in the same year as her brother Sean, and on the friendsreunited website he has listed his name, he is in Canada now by the looks of it.
You can also list by the road you lived on and my friend who I was looking for, her brother has listed his name, he moved away from Sheffield to go to Uni, and he was about four years older, and I believe was a Professor by the 80's, so I have emailed him,
Have a look you will be surprised.

Nsiebert/Timo

I emailed Sean a couple of years ago and he was working in Nashville before moving to Germany.
I did ask him to mention me to Clare, infact I emailed him a letter to give to her about how I'm doing and asked for a reply.
She was living in Ecclesfield and I think she did work in a supermarket.
I never did get the reply from Clare according to Sean She did'nt know how to switch on a computer you mind use one.
Or perhaps I should take a hint.

cycleracer
That is funny, yes take the hint!
Sean as I remember loved science and his home enviroment was quite different to mine I remember some prisms he had. does he work in the science field.

I don't think he is in the science field, more IT as I recall.
Try emailing him a letter to Clare and see if she replies to you.
You can then pass on to me any information.
Its always good to hear how your school chums are going these days.

cycleracer -- is pat marsh the sister of tony marsh who lived across from wincobank and blackburn wmc, near the swings.
i knew those marshes and also my old friend judith wayne lived on that road.

nadine- remember gail morris she is also a member of friends reunited.

Cycleracer & Tara
I have emailed a few people, including the one in New Zealand that is Martyn Kelk, do you remember him, from Brightside.
Tara did you go on to Hinde House School
I will drop Sean O'Dea an email this evening,
It is early morning here at the moment and I have to go to work.
My friend when I left to come to New Zealand was Lorraine Hunt, and I see another girl has lost contact with her, but her Brother is on friendsunited so I have emailed him, not heard anything back from anyone yet (maybe I should take a hint Cycleracer too)
They may not be devoted computer uses and check the emails much.
I have changed a lot since my school days, I was quite shy and found life quite tough, come out of my shell now.
I suppose most of us have changed as we have got older.
Tara I do not remember that name, where did she live, it might ring some bells.

Tara.
Not sure of her family to be honest but she did get the No2 bus in that direction so it could be her.

Nsiebert.
When did you leave Hinde House.
I have looked up Timo and but not sure if I knew him.
You may know Pat Toyne who lived at the very top of Jenkin Hill.
She is one I have been in touch with.

Timo.
Do you have an older brother called David.

FOR THE BENEFIT OF NEW COMERS TO THIS THREAD, WELCOME TO THE CYCLERACER, NSIEBERT, TIMO AND TARA SHOW.

I left Hinde House in 1974, when I left wincobank school we were the last year to go straight from primary to 1st year, the year after the first year came from the middle school, that would have been the one Christine Siddall came from
Do you remember Carol Ballard in my year?
I am getting annoyed with myself that I cant remember people, but remember Sean O'dea, Linda Mitchell, Janet Button, Diane Hardy, Lorraine Hunt, Pauline Guite, peter Gillot, Mick Sheldon, and if you look on the friendsreunited website, you can see all the names for 1974 without joining, and I remember most of them, I remember Lee Kirby, Tara and Cycleracer, email me private if you like, what are your surnames,

Hi to Cycleracer, Tara and Nadine. To answer your question, Cycleracer, no, I didn't have a brother called David. I have a younger sister called Wendy.

Timo/Nsiebert

Thanks for the PMs and I have returned PMs and Timo obviously I PMed you before I read this latest posting about David, so ignore that bit.
The Toynes were a big family though I did not know her brother.
In the junior school years I was in the chess club were my mate Jimmy Aston used to do me a fake membership ticket as they charged a small sum for them and I could not afford to buy one.
My real mates were Stephen Greasby, martin Robinson, Kevin Wallis, Keith Richardson as they were all Pitsmoor lads.
I could go on but theres to many to mention.
Friends re-united have some people I knew but none of my best mates have registered so there rather not computer orientated or there dead.
A mate at school is burried next to my dad in Shiregreen Cemetery, he died in 1980 aged 20.
When we came back from Ireland earlier this year I could see Southport beach from the ferry and it looked a nice place though I have never been.

I had a friend called jane toyne at wincobank school, is this one of that large family.?
other friends were karen green- lived on standon road had a brother called michael green.
someone on jenkin rd called carol clarke.
my main friends were pat bennett, andrea and julie makin,
june wilcox, pauline ballinger,jacqueline stretch,bev johnson,zana french,terry robinson, georgie ainsworth, terry webster.
i also remember lynn dell, the clintons,ian flint,gail pinning,
ian terry(carols brother) the scotherns,currs,martin wasnedge,
my old friend john saddler,ernie reville,susan elvin,dianne lavender,judith wayne,neil goacher,sheila smallwood,the kelk's,
gordon spellman,jacqueline clarke, maralyn farror,valerie glaves,
terry lines- (i always remember he threw a brick at my head walking through the church gennell.).
moira fearnley.
christopher nelson- always had a runny nose.
julie gillott,

surely someone remembers some of these or their brothers and sisters.
i had a crush on paul oglesby. lol

Tara
I remember some of those names
Jayne Toyne lived on Newman Drive not far from me, if the same one, but moved when at primary school.
I remember Julie Makin and Lynn Dell sounds familair,
I knew Martyn Kelk from Brightside, we were friends for a while,
I notice he is in New Zealand now, I have emailed him, but not heard back as yet ( maybe he dosent want me to contact him Hehehe)
Did you go to Hinde House
Looking on the friendsreunited website, there are a couple in Canada and one in Australia that I remembered, and some not in Sheffield.

I left wincobank in 67.
we were in the old houses at the bottom of newman road and they had to be pulled down.
I never wanted to move i was upset for ages.
finished up going to hartley brook school for 1 year then the brushes firthpark.

Is it just me, but why cant some people on friends reunited just simply reply to an email.
ive had lots of replies but theres loads who dont even bother to reply.
even if they dont remember you its common courtesy to reply isnt it.
does anyone else find this.
to my way of thinking if they dont want to bother then why join in the first place.

sorry had to get that little moan out of the way.lol

Originally posted by tara
I left wincobank in 67.
we were in the old houses at the bottom of newman road and they had to be pulled down.
I never wanted to move i was upset for ages.
finished up going to hartley brook school for 1 year then the brushes firthpark.

Is it just me, but why cant some people on friends reunited just simply reply to an email.
ive had lots of replies but theres loads who dont even bother to reply.
even if they dont remember you its common courtesy to reply isnt it.
does anyone else find this.
to my way of thinking if they dont want to bother then why join in the first place.

sorry had to get that little moan out of the way.lol Its probably because they have not re-newed their subscription which I thinks stops them getting your email through there server.
It may also be that they have since changed email addresses and have not got round to up dating them.
Don't take it personal.

Tara, I knew Neil Goacher; a tall, nice older lad who lived on Standon Road. I knew Robert Curr [probably the younger brother of your friend],the Scotherns, I think lived on Fife Street. Richard Scothern was a martial arts expert [Karate and Kung Fu], and floored Barry Nash [ Karate instructor at St Thomas's] in a bout. Gail Pinning sounds like the older sister of John Pinning, a good lad in my class at Concord Middle. As I said to Cycleracer and Nsiebert, I am slightly younger than you three [43], so many of the names you mention are familiar to me, but it is usually the younger brothers and sisters that I knew. Great to share the memories, and atmosphere of those days with you.

Tara, I know what you mean about not replying, but that is a good point cycleracer, maybe others havent had replies, so they have not bother to renew the subscription
I think when you pay to join you sort of expect a reply
Whats this on the other thread about a riot in Shiregreen outside the WMC.

When we left Newman Drive those houses were only 10 years old, and they would be 40 years old now, oh my goodness that makes me feel old!!
You can look at ariel photo's of Wincobank and I could see my old house and those trees down the road looked big and I remember them being planted.

Hi peeps, hi again Paul,

Thanks to a nudge from Nadine I've finally wandered on here but still in the midst of catching up on the squillion postings.

Just to answer a handful of bits and pieces in various postings - I was indeed in Nashville up until March this year, the Germany thing was a temporary assignment. Now I'm in Winnipeg, Canada which is err.....sort of different.

I did go into the tech industry but specifically audio, supplying high end hardware to recording studios, film dubbing studios, broadcasters etc - this sort of stuff http://www.solid-state-logic.com http://www.glw.com , the latter being the company I have just left. For a couple of years somewhere in the middle I went to the other side of the fence as Technical Manager for a film sound studio in Switzerland. An odd feeling having to deal with a previous employer for tech support !

Parents and brother are still at the same old Wincobank address with sisters also not that far away.

On the subject of which I suggested to Clare that she could have Eugene post something on her behalf on her next trip to the parents place.

She was considering a trip down to the Algarve where a friend of mine has a bar and I had to remote into my brothers machine to show her the flight availability etc.....we're talking serious technophobia :-)

Remember loads and loads of stuff from the Sheffield days ( odd I can't remember stuff from last week though ) but save that for another posting.

Phew !

Sean.

Glad you found the place S.

Hi Sean.

Now to hear from you again.
Thanks for putting us through to Clare and hope we will hear from her soon.
I take it you will be home at Christmas.
This is a good interesting site so keep in touch with us home birds.

Nadine did you get contacted from Christine and Annette.

Paul

Cycleracer, not heard from Christine or Annette yet,

Nadine.
I will contact Annette tomorrow as I work nights I passed on your email address (sealed of course) through a third party as I don't usually see her these days.
I let you know what is happening either way.
She did leave me a message asking for your email address on Friday.

Paul

Originally posted by tara
(i always remember he threw a brick at my head walking through the church gennell.).


Fell off my chair laughing at that bit. Sorry tara but it was so funny to read, unless I have a wicked sense of humour.
I can carry on reading now. This is really interesting even if it is before my time.

We're not planning to be in the UK this Xmas as we've booked to attend the O'Dea Clan Gathering in Ireland next year.

Before you ask - yes there really is such a thing, every 3 years in Co. Clare and it's quite a grand affair with 300-400 people coming in from all over the world.

My wife publishes the clan newsletter so we're 'dignitaries' so to speak and this is our first attendance so should be interesting.

A bizarre story - one of the english assignments we had to do at Hinde House ( Rick Osbourne's class I think ) was researching the family tree and I hated every minute of it. Now we've just spent the last few years researching both my family and my wifes family and found it fascinating. In fact are driving a couple of hours north of here this weekend to visit the farm where her grandmother was born and which is now owned by some kind of descendant.

How we change over the years.

That said I was in N.R. Bardwells on Abbeydale Road recently where I have been buying electronic parts since my teens and one of the guys in there was telling a customer that in the 30 years he'd known me I always came in with long hair, jeans and a biker jacket so maybe not everything changes.

--sean

Sean, I do not remember you in jeans, biker jacket and long hair,
Oh dear I dont you dont remember what I looked like in my teenage days!!!
My family is from Donegal, it is my half brother I have traced, I have a half sister somewhere around Sheffield, and her brother has lost touch with her.
The Aunty is in Ontario, her name was Anne Celine Smith, but is known as Celine, but those names are very common in Canada,
I hope you enjoy your trip to Ireland, I am jealous, it is a long way from here, costs thousands

Sean / Nadine.

Sean I remember you with long blonde hair and round glasses and you were the spitting image of John Denver, infact I used to sing Annes Song everytime I saw you, behind your back of course as you were taller than me.
Regarding Ireland I have not long since returned from there.
County Wicklow which is close to Clare with beautifull scenery and beaches especially in Glendalough.
Is your sister named after the county or is it spelt slightly different.
Nadine we to were at school together and wondered what form you were in and what class.
Sean, as I remember you were in the higher A group, am I correct.
I was in Sorby, and X1 or something.
Incase you have forgotten the class groups went something like this.
R2-R1 (Remedial)...X2- X1 (Medioca)... A2-A1 (C|lever dickies).
Although that may be slightly in-correct, that is how I remember it.
I was in X1 which is higher than X2 but not good enough to get into the A group.
I stand corrected if you know anymore.

yes miss smiley ,wasn't funny at the time though.
my cousin was with me at the time and chased him , but he was too quick for her the little ---.
mind you us old wincobankers were use to having bricks and stones pelted on us we use to create two gangs and one gang would stand at the top of the banking at side of back entrance to newman road church armed with stones etc and the other gang would stand at the back path a lot of feet below with bin lids used for sheilds. we'd get pelted to bits and then we'd swap over.
did anyone else do this.

also ive remembered some more old friends of mine from wincobank- the redfearns.- les, kenneth, brian, and their younger brother. also kevin and stephen clarke.-(nobby)

a few years ago i saw a poster at firth park. the ad was calling for old wincobankers to go to a reunion every few months at st thomas church newman rd.
does anyone else know anything about this or if it still exists.

Originally posted by tara
also ive remembered some more old friends of mine from wincobank- the redfearns.- les, kenneth, brian, and their younger brother. also kevin and stephen clarke.-(nobby)


Brian also had a brother called Tony who was the youngest, Les was the older one if its the same family, although I can't remember them living in Wincobank, I thought they were from Pitsmoor.
Brian married a friend of mine called Mandy.
Tony went on to run a post office.
Kevin Clarke well the one I knew lived opposite Firthpark Library and he was a mate of mine.
Have not seen him since about 1981.
He had a sister who's name I can't remember.
Are we on the same wave length here.

Tara, your reference to stone fights made me smile. We not only have the hijacking of Fletchers' vans in common, but also the aforementioned form of combat. I remember huge,twenty a side arranged scraps at Hinde House, where myself and other demented bloody fools would pelt each other with stones. The Shiregreeners appeared to be more advanced in their stone-throwing prowess than we lower Wincobank lads, and we had a healthy respect for their fighting ability. I remember one time near Xmas in the early seventies, at Concord Middle School, one of our lads [David Watts, a ginger-haired guy] came to the school fancy dress competition in the remains of what should have been a Dalek costume. Watts was in floods of tears, cut and bleeding, with his Dalek costume ripped to shreds, and only just hanging off him. "What on Earth has happened to you, David?". Watts replied, between sobs and gulps, "T'Shiregreeners 'ave stoned me, Miss!". To my eternal shame, I laughed until I was nearly incontinent...
Nsiebert [Nadine], thanks for private email. Good luck and best wishes to you.

Tara
I remember Brian Redfern, I dont remember the peltin with rocks etc,
I remember knocking on peoples doors and running off though, we got chased a few times, once someone on Newman Drive chased us, and we lost the man for a bit, and we hid in our garden shed, frightened to death, and the houses on Newman Drive had small walls at the front, we use to tape string to the letter box and hide over the wall on the other side of the road, and when we had rattled the letter box used to pull off the string and hide, and watch the person looking up and down the road, what a load of terrors we were.

Myself and the Barrs brothers of Standon Road [are you reading this Andy and Gary?!] were serial door-knockers. In the seventies, the practice was known as "Knock-a-Bocker-Run". We, of course, introduced sinister variations such as knocking and then lighting a firework just outside the door. We had to light the firework very quickly after hammering on the door, and then we ran like the wind. Looking back, we were maniacs. How we avoided arrest and incarceration I do not know.

Yes, I feel quite ashamed now, as we didnt care if they were old either.

I remember going home from school at dinner time and taking a short cut over the fence into Hinde House School, it was that mesh fence and it was high, I tried to climb it and as I dropped down onto the school field, I got my underwear caught on the fence and as you can imagine I left half of them still attached to the fence, there were lads playing football and they were all shouting have you got your knickers in a knot, that was terrible, I didnt know where to look, I have always remembered that

Nadine, to my eternal credit, NOBODY ever saw my underwear at Hinde House!

Originally posted by Cycleracer
Nadine we to were at school together and wondered what form you were in and what class.
Sean, as I remember you were in the higher A group, am I correct.
I was in Sorby, and X1 or something.
Incase you have forgotten the class groups went something like this.
R2-R1 (Remedial)...X2- X1 (Medioca)... A2-A1 (C|lever dickies).
Although that may be slightly in-correct, that is how I remember it.
I was in X1 which is higher than X2 but not good enough to get into the A group.
I stand corrected if you know anymore. Nadine.
Did'nt get a response to this posting, maybe you missed it.
Which class were you in.

ANY ONE REMEMBER ?

Pat & Mary Kynes
Maureen & Wendy Boyle
Maureen Wild
Margaret White
Stan Crow
Terry Cox
Tony Roach
Linda Coyle

Originally posted by poppins
ANY ONE REMEMBER ?

Pat & Mary Kynes
Maureen & Wendy Boyle
Maureen Wild
Margaret White
Stan Crow
Terry Cox
Tony Roach
Linda Coyle Were these from the Wincobank area. ?

Sorry,
forgot just where wincobank was now, most were from southey green,walkly area, funny after nearly 40 years i remember that the southey green bus was number 29 !

yes its the same Redfearns, they came to live below us in the back to backs on lower newman road in early 60s and must have left around 67 ish when the houses were to be knocked down .
Les was the oldest - reddish blonde hair, then ken then brian then tony.
i got in touch with les, via friends reunited hes on the hinde house school list.
he probably went to live in pitsmoor in 67 ish.

the kevin clarke i mean had darkish curly hair.
there was another kevin clarke from shiregreen nick named clackers.

Cycleracer
Yes, I missed that one.
I was in the A class to start with and then demoted to the average class, main thing was I couldnt keep up with the Maths, I think I was ok with the other things.
I had a terrible Maths teacher, an old man, Mr Andrews I think, and he frightened me to death, and made me feel like an idiot, so I never learned anything.
Funny though, I ended up doing production planning for 10 years and it is all maths, and I had no problem.
Once I was in the middle class, wasnt it E, like 2E1 and 2E2 etc, what a difference, I never learned much at all then, lost interest.
In the senior school I did the typing, shorthand etc, but at the time I wanted to be a nurse and got accepted into a pre nursing course, for when I left school, but we came to NZ, glad was not a nurse now though.

Nadine, you weren't the idiot- Andrews was! He was a totally miserable old chuff without an ounce of passion for his subject. He taught us in our first year at Sheffield's answer to Colditz. Never did that bugger smile. Not once. The other maths teachers were Mr Terry; a rather unfortunate, Buddy Holly-lookalike, nicknamed "Peabody" [are you reading this in Chapeltown, "Lappo"?!], Mr Keeton [imaginatively nicknamed, "Buster"], and Cycleracer's favourite, the terrifying, caped Edwards. Edwards ran the school on the lines that Maths was the most important subject, and the A stream were separated from the bigger G stream, in theory, largely because of greater mathematical competance. This puzzled me at the time, as I was useless at Maths but placed in the A stream!

Timo
Obviously you were not as bad as me, or you would have been moved,
There were a few cape wearers there, nobody seems to remember Cecil Dowling, but I have always remembered him, for the swirling cape, if I remember he used to wear it most of the time.
Do you think we should start a new thread.

Yes Paul you are correct in that I was in the A-stream which I always believed was called that because we were expected to go on to A-Levels but of course I could have been completely mistaken.

On the subject of batman impressions another avid cape wearer was Mr Pemberton or Spam as he was known. I only remember him being there for the first couple of years so I guess he must have retired.

Mr Dowling of course was known as Adolf. Whether this was after the Monty Python sketch or the piano player in Sparks I don't know. His sidekick Mrs Smith unfortunately had suffered polio at some point in her life and kids being the evil little buggers they are, became known as 'rubberneck'

--sean

Sean
I thought Miss Smith was called rubberneck, because her neck was quite thick and the hair grew right down the back, they were a good pair together though.
Miss Smith played "The trout" on the piano and I remember having to sing it really loud, and back on the subject of Mr Andrews, we were playing up once in the music class and he heard and came in, and made us sing "Men of Harlech" and he walked around and if everyone wasnt singing at full pelt you were in more trouble, but sometimes in the music class they would let us sing modern stuff and everyone was right into it.
Did anyone go on the overseas trips at school, I think we should set up another Hinde House thread, so I will now,

Originally posted by Mithrandir
Mr Pemberton or Spam as he was known. I only remember him being there for the first couple of years so I guess he must have retired.

-sean Not sure if he retired Sean, I PMed Nsiebert about him which may have some connection as to why he went which I cannot put on here.
Nsiebert do you think they could be a connection between his " retirement" and the reason I thought he had left.
It adds up does'nt it.

Does anyone remember mr Ball -( think ive got name right.)from wincobank swings.
He was the park keeper come-everything.
He had this little hut and use to patch all the kids up who had fallen down he used very strong antiseptic.
He was a small elderly chap in 60s.
I think he went to live in shiregreen years after.
cant imagine anything like this today, theres no one looking after parks properly let alone kids knees etc.
he was a great old guy.

Yes indeed it was Miss Smith ( although I seem to remember she was actually Mrs ) and the neck problem was as a result of polio when she was younger I understand. I have a vague recollection of my mother explaining "Mrs Smiths unfortunate predicament" and why it's cruel to make fun of other's misfortune to me, probably after a PTA meeting.

To this day I have a mental image of her and Mr Dowling as the bad guy and his sidekick in the James Bond film - don't remember the characters as I'm not a Bond fan.

I too remember having to sing the Trout and also adlibing "and they've all got spots" in the middle of Ilkley Moor bar t'at.

My mother was somewhat of an activist in those days even to the point of sending Mr Scott the swimming instructor at Sutherland Road Baths a stinker of a letter when he threatened to cut my hair. As revenge he made me get changed on the girls side - like that was supposed to be punishment ?

Mr Scott, as I relate on the memories of the seventies thread started by Nsiebert [Nadine], was given to hurling the timid into the "deep end" of that filthy pool. Allegedly, the irate father of one of his victims [the kid was called Mitchell, but I can't recall the surname] threw Scott in ! If true, he thoroughly deserved it. The man was a sadist and a bully. Was he a relative of the caped terror of Hinde House, Derwyn Edwards?!

Did anyone else play this in wincobank. or anywhere else.
two gangs and one would run all over wincobank with a piece of chalk and every so often chalk arrows on the floor.
the other group would have to wait a certain amount of time then go off in hot persuit of the arrows until they found the other group.
but you could put false trails etc like drawing arrows so far up an entry where a vicious bulldog lived or something.
or up a dead end.
this game went on hours till the first gang was found.
there was so many places to go at wincobank then.
until developers came along.

does anyone remember the fayre at very top of newman road.
probably you will nes.

Certainly do - used to look forward to it every year until they put houses there.

--sean

Tara
I used to love the fair, and the waltzer was the best, we were so fascinated by those fair boys that worked at the fair,
They were sort of dangerous and rough for some reason.
They used to come and spin and spin us until we were dizzy, and we thought it was great.
We would come home for more money, it must have been fairly cheap or my Dad wouldnt have given me more.

Originally posted by timo
Tara, your reference to stone fights made me smile. We not only have the hijacking of Fletchers' vans in common, but also the aforementioned form of combat. I remember huge,twenty a side arranged scraps at Hinde House, where myself and other demented bloody fools would pelt each other with stones. The Shiregreeners appeared to be more advanced in their stone-throwing prowess than we lower Wincobank lads, and we had a healthy respect for their fighting ability. I remember one time near Xmas in the early seventies, at Concord Middle School, one of our lads [David Watts, a ginger-haired guy] came to the school fancy dress competition in the remains of what should have been a Dalek costume. Watts was in floods of tears, cut and bleeding, with his Dalek costume ripped to shreds, and only just hanging off him. "What on Earth has happened to you, David?". Watts replied, between sobs and gulps, "T'Shiregreeners 'ave stoned me, Miss!". To my eternal shame, I laughed until I was nearly incontinent...
Nsiebert [Nadine], thanks for private email. Good luck and best wishes to you.
that stone throwing must have gone on a long time we did in the 1940s only it was on winco hill against the owler lane lads

awoollen,
Who won?

makes me wonder about that.
My dad was also born and bread in wincobank and i remember him telling me they were always having fights with the brightside lot or (brighties) as they were called . and this would have been in 30s. ill ask him if he remembers anything about stoning.as hes 80 next year but remembers things from years ago more than present if you see what i mean.my dad had also had some mates in those municipal huts that use to be on tyler street.
probably before your time.

just asked him and they also did the stoning.
the brighties would stand all in lines on top of the ridge firing bricks etc. and visa versa.

Tara,
re stoning, we always called it "cobbin' stoowens", in our primitive way as lower Wincobankers. In the winter months, we would "cob" snowballs [with hard stones hidden in the middle] at unfortunate fellow creatures, dogs, cats, "bin men" and buses. How very different from the home life of our own dear Queen, as someone once said...

does anybody remember any of the Leighton's from Tipton street or are they out of your area? They all attended Hinde House School. There was Steven, Graham, Andrew and Craig. Steven might have been a bit earlier than you but Graham may have been inyour year.

I vaguely remember Graham. I was a POW at South Yorkshire's version of Colditz between 1974 and 1978. Wasn't he a fair-haired lad?

yep, Graham was and still is blond. He is my brother-in-law, I'm married to his brother Andrew. Sorry I didn't go to Hinde House school[although my sisters kids do now] I went to Earl Marshall but I did do some missonary work when I left school and helped run a playscheme at the park on Jenkin Rd.!!!! Graham married a lass from Brinsworth and now has 4 kids. The eldest 21 and the youngest 16 and they live in Milton Keynes[well someone has to!]

Gleighton,
Did you know Paul Wells, by any chance? He is a good friend of mine [now living in Seattle], and he attended Earl Marshall. He is now 45. Earl Marshall was, by all accounts, a better school than the dreadful Hinde House. Our school was run rather like an SS Order Castle by a Headmaster who would not have been out of place leading the Das Reich Panzer Division.

sorry he sounds abit older than me. I'm 43 at the moment. Yes the school wasn't too bad. You always look back with fond memories when you don't actually have to go there anymore. Went past it the other day when I was visiting and it really looks like a prison now. My nephew says Hinde House is having new bits built and they should be opening sometime this year. He seems to hate it as much as everyone else. Perhaps it just has that effect on everyone!

Hello there did anybody out there live on barkby road.

Been a while and been on the move again since last posting. Now settled in Ireland, just down the road from Galway in deepest rurality with cows over the garden wall (when they're not in the garden !), the smell of peat from the range etc.

Spent first half of this year on a contract at BBC Scotland in Glasgow and off to Amsterdam at month end to earn another crust :)

--sean

Anyone have any information about Tracey Parkin, used to live at 69 Barkby Road untill 1979 then moved to Halfway. I think she may now be a Jones, and has 3 kids. would luv to find my long lost sister