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pavlo1969
06-01-2007, 10:14
does any one remember the group The Fortunes in the 60's in Sheffield?????????????????????????????:

Nigel Womersle
06-01-2007, 11:18
I remember them very well. You've got your troubles, I've got mine. Brilliant group of the mid sixties.

Bruno
06-01-2007, 11:20
yep my fav track is you've got your troubles

mikeG
06-01-2007, 13:04
I think 1965 was a good year for them.. They then kept a low profile for a few years and re-emerged around 1971 with another hit or two.

carsupplier
06-01-2007, 13:14
I used to work with Glen Dale from 'The Fortunes' around twenty years ago.
He was a vehicle electrician at the compnay where I worked and was a great bloke, I believe he's still singing at different places aroun the UK.

pavlo1969
06-01-2007, 20:06
im trying to find out if anyone knew my dad,he had alot to do with the fortunes.his name was anthony ford or better known as tony.its just a shot in the dark.

Timbuck
06-01-2007, 20:08
I used to work with Glen Dale from 'The Fortunes' around twenty years ago.
He was a vehicle electrician at the compnay where I worked and was a great bloke, I believe he's still singing at different places aroun the UK.
I remember when "The Fourtunes" split up....For some reason after their first success in the recording business the main singer "Glen Dale" left with the drummer "Gary" and they formed a new band it was called "Glen Dale and the Candies" I believe Glen told the band he would split all earings 50-50 what he meant was 50% for him and the other 50% shared amongst the rest of the band..So the band didn't last very long..and Glen went solo on the Clubs...The original "Fourtunes" went ahead and hired another singer and drummer and carried on as usual to great success...Gary became the drummer in another short lived band called "The Connection" the band members were "Vernon Nash"(Ex Joe Cocker on Keyboards) "Barry" (Ex Oharas Playboys on guitar) "John Burdon" ( from London lead vocals) & Gary and Me on Bass and Drums....We tried to bring a new style of Music to Sheffield ..But most audiences didn't like us so we split as well.... Thats Life

Timbuck
06-01-2007, 20:17
im trying to find out if anyone knew my dad,he had alot to do with the fortunes.his name was anthony ford or better known as tony.its just a shot in the dark.Was He a Grocer from Shiregreen???

pavlo1969
06-01-2007, 21:51
don't know.....all i know is he was in army round the time.i think he was with them when they were doin the circuits

Rocklegend
07-01-2007, 07:27
The ex wife of one of the group lives in Swallownest;not sure which one tho'.

skippy
07-01-2007, 09:33
In 1965 an ex member of the fortunes sang & played piano at our wedding reception, he had a mate singing with him, I don't know his name as the landlord of the pub organised it, & all it cost me was the drinks for the 2 of them all night.
They sang a song that this bloke had written called something like little golden band, a good song for the reception.

pavlo1969
07-01-2007, 18:36
skippy....it could have been my dad...he used to do clubs upto the late 80's from the 60's

skippy
08-01-2007, 03:50
skippy....it could have been my dad...he used to do clubs upto the late 80's from the 60's

pavlo, we were having trouble finding somewhere to have our wedding reception, a mate of mine owned the Crown Inn on Carlisle Rd at Grimesthorpe & said we could have the room upstairs free, he then asked if we would like some music, he knew this bloke who played with the Fortunes &
said he would be bringing a friend along to keep him company,all I had to do was pay for their drinks.
It's so long ago now that I can't remember his name or what he looked like, but he was good, a very quiet natured fellow & very shy.

pavlo1969
08-01-2007, 04:22
my dad was a little shy.....he played the guitar mainly but played a hole host of things

talbot_heath
08-01-2007, 05:40
In 1965 an ex member of the fortunes sang & played piano at our wedding reception, he had a mate singing with him, I don't know his name as the landlord of the pub organised it, & all it cost me was the drinks for the 2 of them all night.
They sang a song that this bloke had written called something like little golden band, a good song for the reception.

Could it have been 'This Golden Ring'? A big hit for The Fortunes which can hear on Youtube. Not allowed to post link though.

pavlo1969
08-01-2007, 05:53
cheers for that....i just been on you tube.......brill......you got your troubles also

skippy
08-01-2007, 10:53
Can't get it to work properly on my computer, not enough grunt,but the title sounds right, I've just tried several sites so I can listen to it, but haven't succeeded yet, not too good with these things, anyone know the name of the bloke that wrote it?

tosh13
08-01-2007, 14:30
My father inlaw was a commitee man at the Arundel Club in the 60s & the Fortunes went home with him & had some sunday lunch at their house,my wife's claim to fame.

pavlo1969
08-01-2007, 14:35
tosh13 does he remember there names...if so pm me if you like.....im trying to find out info on my dad

tosh13
08-01-2007, 15:57
tosh13 does he remember there names...if so pm me if you like.....im trying to find out info on my dad
Sorry P he died some years ago & my wife was young at the time.
just found the names for you. Rod Allen, Michael Smitham, Paul Hooper and Bob Jackson.

skippy
10-01-2007, 03:53
Could it have been 'This Golden Ring'? A big hit for The Fortunes which can hear on Youtube. Not allowed to post link though.

Finally got it, sounds familiar although it's been 43 years since the bloke sang it with the piano & his mate, just got to find out who the writer of the song was now, that would be the bloke who played at our wedding.
That could be your job pavlo, I'm no good at these things.

margesimpson
10-01-2007, 09:21
Rod Allen, Michael Smitham, Paul Hooper and Bob Jackson - where are they now then? Fantastic group.

margesimpson
10-01-2007, 09:22
Forgot to say a lot of 60s groups are on the holiday camp circuit. Any news of The Fortunes doing this sort of thing?

Timbuck
10-01-2007, 09:28
Forgot to say a lot of 60s groups are on the holiday camp circuit. Any news of The Fortunes doing this sort of thing?
Suprise Suprise..They are still on the go here are the 2007 tour dates .
www.thefortunes.co.uk

margesimpson
10-01-2007, 12:04
Fantastic find Timbuck - thanks a lot :)

pavlo1969
10-01-2007, 12:19
going to the one in june in Crowle.......the funny thing is the gig is on 2 june........i was born 2 june and i lived in Crowle a few years as a lad......its a funny old world.

talbot_heath
11-01-2007, 03:10
Can't get it to work properly on my computer, not enough grunt,but the title sounds right, I've just tried several sites so I can listen to it, but haven't succeeded yet, not too good with these things, anyone know the name of the bloke that wrote it?

Was written by Roger Greenaway and Roger Cook, leading songwriting team aka David and Jonathan, with Cook also being lead vocals in Blue Mink.

talbot_heath
11-01-2007, 03:17
Rod Allen, Michael Smitham, Paul Hooper and Bob Jackson - where are they now then? Fantastic group.

Original line-up was
Rod Allen
Glenn Dale
Barry Pritchard
David Carr
Andy Brown

skippy
12-01-2007, 01:26
Was written by Roger Greenaway and Roger Cook, leading songwriting team aka David and Jonathan, with Cook also being lead vocals in Blue Mink.

Thanks for that info t/h, I'm now wondering whether it was them that sang at our wedding, 23/10/65, I guess we will never know, one thing for sure, they were not bull***t artists & had nothing to prove & one of them said he had written it.

Alsanac
18-01-2007, 07:03
I was in the RAF with Gary's brother Rod Fletcher, who I was best man at his wedding in Singapore .I remember him showing me pictures of Glen Dale and the Candies featuring his brother Gary,(original Fortunes drummer) who I have never met , but would like to get in touch as I am involved in the music business and would like to find his brother Rod , anybody got any ideas ?

ballie
03-12-2007, 13:50
does any one remember the group The Fortunes in the 60's in Sheffield?????????????????????????????:
my mate still roadies with them Glen Dale [lead singer] still sings around sheffield pubs I think he's registerd with C B agency who run the mercury paper for groups around the sheffield region

mikeG
03-12-2007, 15:28
Saw them on tour in Nantwich March, 2007. Very good indeed. Also on the bill were the Dreamers - also very entertaining.

marjorie
04-12-2007, 10:26
I'm sure I saw the Fortunes at what was Baileys in the mid 70s. I was about 17/18 at the time! Used to go with a friend of mine Susan Daley. Not heard from her for donkeys years! If anyone knows her please let me know. She married Ernest somebody or other but know she's divorced now.

allthegearno
04-12-2007, 12:35
try this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJQle06cWcc&feature=related

Timbuck
04-12-2007, 20:24
I was in the RAF with Gary's brother Rod Fletcher, who I was best man at his wedding in Singapore .I remember him showing me pictures of Glen Dale and the Candies featuring his brother Gary,(original Fortunes drummer) who I have never met , but would like to get in touch as I am involved in the music business and would like to find his brother Rod , anybody got any ideas ?
I remember Gary he played in a Band with me for a few weeks..Then he went to work as a porter in a Hostpital in Rotherham ..He then lived in Prince of Wales Rd..He married a very pretty girl who was one of twins he met in Scotland while playing for the Fourtunes...This was about 1969....He was from Birmingham and he was a great Drummer, he used to drum for Paul Raven..a.k.n.a. Paul Gadd / Gary Glitter.

handypandy
05-12-2007, 21:48
As a drummer I worked with Glen Dale loads of times, a great bloke and a real pro. The last I heard a year or so ago, he was living on the mobile home site at Marsh Lane. He once told me a story that not long after the Fortunes days, he was hired to sing on a commercial for Coca Cola. He was offered a fee for the day or royalties, he took the fee after being told they might not use it. They did use it and it played all over the world and was hugely popular so he didn't make another dime out of it. Anyone remember it?

LEE_JON_WS
28-02-2009, 15:51
Glen Dale is my husbands father, he has retired from the music business now but on rare occasions still does perform. :)

smary
28-02-2009, 22:02
We saw the Fortunes at the Smithywood Club and Hillfoot Bridge about 1967. Another great group were the Wolves - the Fortunes made it but I dont think the Wolves did.

handypandy
28-02-2009, 23:22
The first time I saw them was at Bellhouse WMC, just as "You've got your troubles" hit the charts. They were still honouring their WMC bookings. Can't see many of today's acts doing that.

leogem
14-01-2010, 21:11
Glen Dale is my husbands father, he has retired from the music business now but on rare occasions still does perform. :) I saw the fortunes at the burngreave lib club when i was a young boy,Ithought they were fantanstic live. They have always been a group that have stood out in my life, and now being 58 dont think ill see them again,but the most amazing thing that as happened is that the bungalow that i have bought in south anston did at one time probably 1967 belonged to mr, r garforth your farther in law alias glen dale. HE IS WELCOME ANYTIME I hope he is still well . dave an old fan

matsalleh
15-01-2010, 07:13
The first time I saw them was at Bellhouse WMC, just as "You've got your troubles" hit the charts. They were still honouring their WMC bookings. Can't see many of today's acts doing that.

It was said that Oakland Rd WMC gave them their 1st booking and after that The fortunes did an annual concert at the club.True or not,maybe someone knows.

Mick Lister
08-02-2010, 23:42
I remember the Fortunes, however didn't actually see them live, I was a big fan of Glen Dale and the Candies, I first saw them at the Blue Bell Hackenthorp, and then travelled with my girlfriend to just about every WMC in Sheffield to see them.
I became friends with Gary Fletcher the drummer, he had a Velocette motorbike and I had a BSA, he was a mechanic by trade and helped me fix the bike on the odd occasion.
I caught up with Glen Dale about 2 - 3 years ago on one of my trips back to England ( went to Aus in 1969 ) I arranged to meet him at the Butchers Arms in Eckington, not far from where Glen now lives. I did hear that Gary played with Frank White foe a while. Great memories of the good old days.

Luke228
10-01-2011, 21:15
Was He a Grocer from Shiregreen???

The person who you are thinking off is my grandad Wilf Smith who was the grocer in shiregreen and had things to do with the fortunes. :)

okismoki
10-01-2011, 22:26
a bloke called paul aldridge used to be the roadie for the fortunes in the 80`s,i always thought they were from the rugby area.....one of em,s ex wife was called christine,we met her and her two kids in mabelthorpe and got chatting about old 60,s music,she mentioned the fortunes,i mentioned paul being the roadie......we ended up chatting until the club closed and we got kicked out.

mikeG
11-01-2011, 12:42
Saw the Fortunes in 2008 at Nantwich on the same bill as Dave Berry. I believe 2 of the Fortunes were in the original group. They were very good.

baldie
11-01-2011, 15:31
a bloke called paul aldridge used to be the roadie for the fortunes in the 80`s,i always thought they were from the rugby area.....one of em,s ex wife was called christine,we met her and her two kids in mabelthorpe and got chatting about old 60,s music,she mentioned the fortunes,i mentioned paul being the roadie......we ended up chatting until the club closed and we got kicked out.

seem to remember them at maid marrion in skeggy and i know its ingomels just not sure of the spellinglol

givin
12-01-2011, 19:18
wasnt storm in a tea cup, one of there songs?

peter bush
15-01-2011, 14:32
I remember seeing the Fortunes a few years ago at the Dial House Club. Joe Brown was scheduled to appear but his wife died of cancer and he cancelled. We didnt know till we turned up on the night but The Fortunes appeared at short notice and were superb. A great sound.

Bushbaby
17-01-2011, 16:20
wasnt storm in a tea cup, one of there songs?
Yes
Written by Lyndsey De Paul

Bushbaby
24-01-2011, 09:05
i know its ingomels

We call it "Jinglebells"

lovelylinda
25-01-2011, 16:14
Great band saw them live too

PaulTansley
25-01-2011, 16:38
I think the fortunes were actually a Rotherham band however geographically still South Yorkshire and they were a terrific band.
I was told some interesting storys about them recently with my interview (radio) with John O Hara as they used the same agents and had i same manager as far as I'm aware.
Very interesting thread.

Tanz

telman
25-01-2011, 17:52
Used to be on at Firth Park club a lot. always packed out.

MallyMcShort
11-02-2011, 16:34
Yes, saw them live around 1964/5 at the Arbourthorne Hotel

davided
12-02-2011, 09:43
Glen now lives in a flat in Eckington, he had problems with one of his legs and had it amputated below the knee. He is doing ok though and is walking better. He used to sing on my karaoke in the butchers arms and it was always a pleasure to listen to him. He is a very likable person but dosnt talk about the fortunes much at all.
KENNY R

kidley
12-02-2011, 22:47
I think the fortunes were actually a Rotherham band however geographically still South Yorkshire and they were a terrific band.
I was told some interesting storys about them recently with my interview (radio) with John O Hara as they used the same agents and had i same manager as far as I'm aware.
Very interesting thread.

Tanz

Hi
i think you will find all the info here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fortunes

http://www.brumbeat.net/fortunes.htm

PaulTansley
24-03-2011, 18:07
Hi
i think you will find all the info here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fortunes

http://www.brumbeat.net/fortunes.htm

I have interviewed Glen Dale today regarding a radio documentry I'm doing about John O Hara & the Playboys at his bungalow.
He told me some interesting stuff but the wikipedia info is not correct and they are listed as a Brmingham band and that isn't true either.
Most of them originate from the south of England apart from one who came from Coventry, they were not a Sheffield band either.
There is not a great deal of memorabilia of his time with the Fortunes on show apart from a re-mastered beatles ticket with there name on blown up in a frame and a few albums.
He doesn't like talking about the Fortunes that much and had difficulty getting somethings out of him and I know that had I belonged in his past my house would be stuffed with memorys of my time with the band.
I have always liked the Fortunes and felt privaliged to meet him and have took renewed interest in there music.
However he is a nice bloke and never gloats about who he was and thats good.

denlin
24-03-2011, 18:15
Got news for you, they're still going - watch out for Solid Silver Sixties shows at city hall. Next ones on 29 April with the great Chris Farlowe and Wayne Fontana among others. They are worth seeing and its not only those who were teenagers in 60's - there are young people there too

PaulTansley
24-03-2011, 19:17
Got news for you, they're still going - watch out for Solid Silver Sixties shows at city hall. Next ones on 29 April with the great Chris Farlowe and Wayne Fontana among others. They are worth seeing and its not only those who were teenagers in 60's - there are young people there too

In name only, none of them are the originals which to me means everything.

denlin
24-03-2011, 20:21
In name only, none of them are the originals which to me means everything.

I go and see these groups regularly and Tremeloes still have two and DD,D.B.M AND T until sad loss of Dave Dee they had all originals. many still have originals. In Fortunes case they are, admittedly, not originals but are definitely worth seeing - Bob Jackson (of Badfinger) is excellent and has most amazing voice

PaulTansley
25-03-2011, 10:17
yeah, no doubt they are good but its the nostalga of seeing the originals that apeals to me...still i would go and see them.

sean_mor
06-09-2011, 23:02
The Fortunes is a Birmingham based group. Rod and Barry the founders of The Fortunes were schoolmates at the Moseley Grammar school in Birmingham. After school the both of them made music and one of the first songs they could play was Wabash Cannonball. Later they attended The Reg Calvert Popschool at Clifton Hall in Rugby. Reg Calvert owned this popschool and he had several artists and groups in his stable. Reg also was the owner of Radio City. Clifton Hall was the place were Richard Garforth a.k.a. Glen Dale started singing together with Rod and Barry. Later on they were completed by David Carr and Andy Brown.

Sean

sean_mor
05-01-2012, 19:51
Last year Dave Carr (first line-up) passed away. He lived in America for many, many years and he played with famous artists such as The Ventures

denlin
05-01-2012, 20:28
The Fortunes are still going. last time we saw them at the City Hall was about 4 years ago, obviously not all originals but still great - solid silver 60's show:D:love:

gnvqsos
07-01-2012, 19:01
The Fortunes were a poor cousin to the likes of the Beatles-on a par with the Barron Knights and Freddie and the Dreamers.

denlin
07-01-2012, 20:24
The Fortunes were a poor cousin to the likes of the Beatles-on a par with the Barron Knights and Freddie and the Dreamers.

In the 60's I'm not sure because back then I was into the Who, Jimi Hendrix and Frank Zappa but now they are good

kidley
07-01-2012, 20:32
The Fortunes were a poor cousin to the likes of the Beatles-on a par with the Barron Knights and Freddie and the Dreamers.




to me the Barron Knights and Freddie and the Dreamers where comedy groups the Fortunes wasnt

gnvqsos
07-01-2012, 20:50
to me the Barron Knights and Freddie and the Dreamers where comedy groups the Fortunes wasnt

Not intentionally but the effect was similar.

gnvqsos
07-01-2012, 20:53
In the 60's I'm not sure because back then I was into the Who, Jimi Hendrix and Frank Zappa but now they are good

That Hot Cats LP was a good un and the Taxis Bold As Blood LP was pure psychadelia.I also enjoyed the Who especially the country rock opera ,Tammy.

denlin
07-01-2012, 21:13
That Hot Cats LP was a good un and the Taxis Bold As Blood LP was pure psychadelia.I also enjoyed the Who especially the country rock opera ,Tammy.


:hihi::hihi::hihi: Good play on words. Wynette I see thee, we'll ketchup on old tymes:D

melthebell
07-01-2012, 21:37
In name only, none of them are the originals which to me means everything.
i was gonna say, looking at timbuks link and the biographies not one member is an original...to me that makes them a cover a band, not an original tbh

kidley
07-01-2012, 21:43
If my memory is correct wasn't there two groups with similar names i.e. the fortunes and the four tunes?

mikeG
08-01-2012, 15:10
If my memory is correct wasn't there two groups with similar names i.e. the fortunes and the four tunes?

Can remember the Four Tops and the Fourmost and the Four Seasons and the Four Pennies.

sean_mor
28-01-2012, 12:00
The Fortunes are still going. last time we saw them at the City Hall was about 4 years ago, obviously not all originals but still great - solid silver 60's show:D:love:
Rod Allen singer and founder member passed away in 2007 and he was the last of the original members. Glen Dale, Andy Brown, Shell Macrae and George McAllister are still alive.

Sean