Can be seen here: http://www.gamespaper.com/news/Ultra-smallPS2getsNovemb.shtml

It's TINY! Would be better for people who like to have one in their Car. But is anyone actually going to buy one now they are so outdated? With XBOX and Gamecubes @ the 100 quid mark who wants to pay an extra 50 quid for outdated technology?

Anyone on here gonna get one? I think Sony are just trying to milk it.

PS2 has always been technically inferior, Sony just has more fanboys who will bleat to the death about their console "owns" Xbox etc :lol:

I've never really been one for consoles personally. I owned a PS1 and an N64 and before that the Sega's. Since then I've been faithfull to my PC.

But the reports on the PS3 I've been reading are making me wonder if it really is time for me to purchase a console.

Apparently it's going to take the PC market at least a year to catch up with it's uber powers :suspect:

Originally posted by Rich
PS2 has always been technically inferior, Sony just has more fanboys who will bleat to the death about their console "owns" Xbox etc :lol:
Totally agree!

Originally posted by Rich
PS2 has always been technically inferior, Sony just has more fanboys who will bleat to the death about their console "owns" Xbox etc :lol:
Ironically it's an XBOX fan who posts first about superiority :lol:
I personally think XBOX and PS2 are great games machines in their own right. They each have something to offer the other one.

Pitty neither one of them sees fit to make a machine that will emulate the other so someone could enjoy the benefits of the XBOX while using a PS2 machine, or vice versa.
If one of them did that, then I think they'd see their consol sales sky rocketting past the other.

as well as huge legal costs..

Why would they incur huge legal costs just because the consol can accept a particular format of disc?
I really don't know, please explain.

Because each console manufacturer have a copyright on their respective (proprietary) formats. Ironically its usually the distinct copyprotection that is copyrighted, and for an emulator to work it'd have to break this copy protection.

XBOX isn't really a console is it now? It's a PC in a small black box. Technically when it was released the PS2 was more advanced than the XBOX. As when the XBOX was released there were other systems which were easily capable of matching it's performance. Unlike the PS2 that was revolutionary at the time.

But at the end of the day since none of these consoles can play Pikmin their worthless.

Even top spec PC's struggle to emulate the PS2 & Xbox, this will no doubt change when the emulators have been perfected but again there's all the legal stuff which tends to get in the way.

The point earlier about the PS2 having more 'fan boys' I think is a fair and valid point.

The way i see it is:
x-box = Hardware & Easy modding.
PS2 = Choice and variety of games.

Originally posted by J-Blaze
XBOX isn't really a console is it now? It's a PC in a small black box. Technically when it was released the PS2 was more advanced than the XBOX.

I thought the whole point was that it actually wiped the floor, hardware-wise?

If I remember correctly, the PS2 runs at about 766 MHz and the Xbox at aroun 1.2 Ghz....

The main reason an Xbox is better than a PC is that it doesn't run on windows!!

It's impossible for an X-Box to emulate a PS2 or vice versa.

When you think about it an emulator needs to process code in software that hardware would process on the original platform. Therefore to emulate another system, the console would have to be many times more powerful than it.

Current PCs aren't yet powerful enough to emulate either.

The other thing was that a PS2 is actually more powerful than an X-Box but due to it being so complex, it is just never used to it's full potential, as developer's don't see it as worthwhile to spend the extra resources on developing for it.

Oops, just realised, that sounds like a right sad-b*****d answer!!!!

Sorry!

Originally posted by rarstar
The other thing was that a PS2 is actually more powerful than an X-Box

How come the Xbox has a faster CPU (more than double the clock speed, I know they are different architectures but the difference is clear!), more memory, built in hard disk and better graphics chip?

Clock speed doesn't have much of a bearing on it.

Similar reasons to why a 1800Mhz AMD chip is faster than a 2400Mhz Intel chip.

PS2 isn't built like a regular PC architecture.

Even with the faster clock speed, more memory, etc the PS2 is still more powerful. You'll never see it in a game though.

Forgive me for being skeptical but can you prove this, Rarstar? I have never heard it suggested before that the PS2 is "more powerful"...

Apparently, Theoretically if pushed to it's limits it would be.

The comparison I read was that Gran Turismo on the PS2 uses about 25% of it's processing power and is only slightly behind Project Gotham on Xbox which pushes the machine almost to it's limits.

Just Google around, there's plenty of stuff on the internet.

I don't have any links or anything but I read some stuff a year or so ago when I was doing a Games Programming module at University.

I would have to say that i'd much rather look at GT3 over PGR2. GT4 looks even better.

I seriously doubt that PGR 2 pushes the xbox to it's limits... It's already been exceeded by games such as burnout 3 and ninja gaiden... I don't believe the visual processing power of the PS2 is better - why are the games so obviously worse-looking if this is the case?

I would argue that the PS1 was that good within it's own class, but it doesn't follow that the PS2 is...

Take Soul Calibur 2 - originally programmed for the PS2, available on all platforms (I own PS2 & Xbox), and the Xbox one is much classier, smoother and more polished. It also never has frame-clipping...

Proof!! I need more proof to accept your words!!! :P