Many of you will have seen the thread regarding the Pinegrove and its closure. I can confirm that as I predicted a planning application will be shortly submitted to Sheffield Council for the demolition of the club and for a housing development to take its place. We thefore will have the Wisewood Forge development, the development that will shortly be happening at Loxley College & Pinegrove Country Club and I suspect a soon to be proposed development at Hepworths.

These will have a huge impact on the valley and traffic in and around the area.

Are you for or against?

Where are all the kids wagging College supposed to go now?

I think it's a disgrace they are tearing that place down. I don't know what we'd of done without it when I was at Loxley.

Originally posted by J-Blaze
Where are all the kids wagging College supposed to go now?

I think it's a disgrace they are tearing that place down. I don't know what we'd of done without it when I was at Loxley.

I agree, knocking the Pinegrove down is daft IMHO.... Not just for the skiving students but for the whole community.

Well the college students won't be there much longer, so that isn't an issue. It would appear that Loxley valley will soon disappear under a torrent of concrete.

I think it's a shame they are knocking Loxley down. That was the nicest College in Sheffield IMO and if it wasn't for there I would never have gone to College.

I think that over development can be a shame!

However I do believe that areas like the old hepworths site and wisewood forge will look better after being re-developed....

As both these sites were / are in a sorry state and need to be cleaned up and developed....

Originally posted by sanman
It would appear that Loxley valley will soon disappear under a torrent of concrete.
Err, I think that's a little bit of an exageration, but it's an understandable reaction.

Ultimately, people have to live somewhere, and be honest, your house was once green space, and past generations no doubt shook their heads at the developments. I'm all for good and sensitive development, but there are simply more people on this tiny island of ours than we have space for, and this sort of thing is inevitable at some time in some places.

Sheffield still has one of the most tightly protected greenbelts in thw country.

Tony

I fully understand your point about people need somewhere to live and agree. However there are a couple of points that I think we should address. House builders currently have enough land with atleast outline planning permission to build 300,000 homes, shouldn't the government make them use this land first and stop the land hoarding. We currently have 700,000 empty homes in the UK, shouldn't we be doing something to get these occupied.

The only real area where we have a chronic house shortage is in 'affordable' homes and this is the area that desperately needs addressing.

As for your point where we have the most protected green belt in the country let me point this out. The footprint of Loxley College is 0.99 hectares, under government guidelines any new development should be less than this. Guidelines recently released by the council state that they will allow a development of upto 2.55 hectares.

Why is this? Surely it couldn't be because the Hillsborough College seems to be the pet project of Helen Jackson so the council is bending over backwards, could it?

Originally posted by sanman
Tony

I fully understand your point about people need somewhere to live and agree. However there are a couple of points that I think we should address. House builders currently have enough land with atleast outline planning permission to build 300,000 homes, shouldn't the government make them use this land first and stop the land hoarding. We currently have 700,000 empty homes in the UK, shouldn't we be doing something to get these occupied.

The only real area where we have a chronic house shortage is in 'affordable' homes and this is the area that desperately needs addressing.

As for your point where we have the most protected green belt in the country let me point this out. The footprint of Loxley College is 0.99 hectares, under government guidelines any new development should be less than this. Guidelines recently released by the council state that they will allow a development of upto 2.55 hectares.

Why is this? Surely it couldn't be because the Hillsborough College seems to be the pet project of Helen Jackson so the council is bending over backwards, could it?

Probably.... Labour are well known for milking daft ideas... Iraq anyone? And before anyone points out the obvious, I know Saddam needed ousting, I and many other people just strongly disagree with how the whole Iraq issue has been handled by the powers that be in Downing St.

Originally posted by sanman
The footprint of Loxley College is 0.99 hectares, under government guidelines any new development should be less than this. Guidelines recently released by the council state that they will allow a development of upto 2.55 hectares.

Why is this? Surely it couldn't be because the Hillsborough College seems to be the pet project of Helen Jackson so the council is bending over backwards, could it?
I can't answer that. Certainly the private and public sectors do sometimes seem to have different sets of rules, but then that's 'best value' for you!

As for the politicians, well I guess that we get what we vote for.

Regarding the Pinegrove planning application,the site that the club was built on was previously a tip,I worked at J Woods,the forge on the other side of the river and myself and workmates used to walk on the tip in our dinner hour.All sorts of rubbish was tipped on this site and if I was planning to build houses there I would want to know what was under the ground.