Corporation? Going to the dogs. Casbah? hahahahahaha! Anywhere else? Duh?

Why is it that Sheffield, which has always had a healthy rock/metal scene, and still has, but nowhere really gives you a good night anymore. Corporation was good on Mondays, but now it's just too commercial. What can we salt of the earth metallers to do to keep ourselves off the streets?

I know you probably won't care about this, but I feel a little better sharing my dismay.

Nelson is pretty good for metal.
And Goldenfleece At the Dove and Rainbow will happily play you some metal..

Yeah, but they're both pubs that shut at normal closing time, where out of the hundreds of "rave clubs" can I go to get my rocks off. We don't have to be in bed at midnight.

Yeah, but they're both pubs that shut at normal closing time, where out of the hundreds of "rave clubs" can I go to get my rocks off. We don't have to be in bed at midnight.
I don't think so,
Dove and rainbow goes on late, I have been in until midnight on several occasions.

Why don't you just go out earlier?
If you start drinking at 7pm instead of 9pm, then midnight is the new 2am. :thumbsup:

:hihi: I suppose so. But I just hate to look like the lightweight. Can't we just bust Gatecrasher with my favourite Pantera and At The Gates albums?

Or, rather like the early nineties church burnings in Norway we could just....... I shouldn't really go there, should I??

Corporation? Going to the dogs. Casbah? hahahahahaha! Anywhere else? Duh?

Why is it that Sheffield, which has always had a healthy rock/metal scene, and still has, but nowhere really gives you a good night anymore. Corporation was good on Mondays, but now it's just too commercial. What can we salt of the earth metallers to do to keep ourselves off the streets?

I know you probably won't care about this, but I feel a little better sharing my dismay.

Yes the Dove and Rainbow is ok but it is only a rock pub and not a night club.

We went to the Nelson on New Years Eve but it wasnt as full as a normal Saturday night and after midnight the standard of the music seemed to go a bit dodgy to say the least. So we left early.

I have already made a comment on the Corporation thread that quite a few of my friends refuse to go to the Corporation any more as they find the music as you say has gone very pop/rock commercial and boring and dont seem to play any good guitar orientated head banging music anymore.

My mate is a rock DJ in a pub in London if he played some of the stuff we get he would get bottles thrown at him.
in some pubs same songs every week no new iron maiden cd tracks like different world .these colours dont run. or even rainmaker. do they think we stopped buying cds in the 80s there is only 1 good freelance dj at the mow and she plays any track you ask for:thumbsup:
have just been on a thread about the corp and they are doing a new ska night not long till the rock night will disappear i think:huh:

I run a rock night at the Moorfoot Tavern every Saturday night - playing rock from the good old days through to present day. I've usually got a live rock band playing with me too. Decent beer prices as well. Free entry.

Yep, will play you most metal/.rock if I have it....just come in and ask.....but not tonight as its EVERFINK goth night which is an ever so slightly different sound to metal in general:hihi:

There's a metal night at Under The Boardwalk on Tuesdays.

www.myspace.com/sheffutb

There's a metal night at Under The Boardwalk on Tuesdays.

www.myspace.com/sheffutb


Yes but Tuesday's a rubbish night when u have to get up for work next day.

We need more weekend nights.

Any night's a good night for seeing a good band....

Corporation? Going to the dogs. Casbah? hahahahahaha! Anywhere else? Duh?

Why is it that Sheffield, which has always had a healthy rock/metal scene, and still has, but nowhere really gives you a good night anymore. Corporation was good on Mondays, but now it's just too commercial. What can we salt of the earth metallers to do to keep ourselves off the streets?

I know you probably won't care about this, but I feel a little better sharing my dismay.
i always thought saturday corp was metal?


the nelson?

I think the point that the OP was trying to make was that there used to be a thriving rock/metal scene in Shiny Sheff. back in the day when we were young :hihi:

No Rebs (kids used to come from all over the county for the dump we loved so much) no wap, no Yorkies, Maily, Hornblower... Roxys rock night.. :help: Okay that may be stretching things a little but we had options for after hours drinkies..

The current options are now rather limited and juvenile... we should agree on that.

Some Friday nights at the new Arches are rock/metal- there are adverts about on the forum somewhere (I'll have a hunt about for them in a bit).

EDIT- I think I've got my wires crossed- the thread is about the Arches pub- not the club. Sorry.

I think the point that the OP was trying to make was that there used to be a thriving rock/metal scene in Shiny Sheff. back in the day when we were young :hihi:

No Rebs (kids used to come from all over the county for the dump we loved so much) no wap, no Yorkies, Maily, Hornblower... Roxys rock night.. :help: Okay that may be stretching things a little but we had options for after hours drinkies..

The current options are now rather limited and juvenile... we should agree on that.

Totally agree with that. What there is seems to fall into two categories; goth stuff, endlessly, or just a stock set of stuff from each DJ.

You missed out the Foresters too ........

You missed out the Foresters too ........

Slaps hand in shame... :P

Slaps hand in shame... :P

Just don't do it again :hihi:

Seriously though, for the last decade or so it's been pretty rubbish, with the Sportsman, and latterly the Yorkies/CRB being the mainstays, but even then, it was very 'same old, same old'.

Much as I love dear ol'Viking Mark to pieces, if I EVER hear 'Stargazer' by Rainbow again, I'll kill.

Everyone, and everything.

The Dove's doing a good job, mind, but I just worry that it's too small.

The Nelson has never been a metal bar; it's barely rock (sorry Tim, but it has been a goth place for ages - and continued good luck mate).

The Sporty is just terrible now.

Sorry, but it really is awful at the moment.

The Nelson has never been a metal bar; it's barely rock (sorry Tim, but it has been a goth place for ages - and continued good luck mate).



Excuse me?! You actually bothered to read any of our flyers?

Tues - Control Frequency - Industiral/EBM/Noise
Wed - Rockaoke - Rock karaoke
Thurs - Stormblast - extreme metal (been going well over a year!)
Fri/Sat - Generations of Rock (including DJ Lez downstairs every Sat night)

The only 'goth' night (Dark~Matter - EBM/industrial/goth) we do is fortnightly downstairs, and we're removing the 'goth' bit from that this year.

So you see, no 'goth' in sight...
Or are you just assuming that because it's painted red and black that it must be 'goth'?

The Dove's doing a good job, mind, but I just worry that it's too small.

Small? You wouldn't think that if you had to clean and decorate the place!! Felt like the same size as the City hall stuck up on scaffolds pouring black paint over my head and stepping in pots of purple emulsion. Oh that was a FUN day!!!!:hihi:

And as Tim says, anything painted black (or black/red) does not necessarily mean a goth venue....or person even. We have a black ceiling and black doors but we are not a goth venue. We had a goth night last night (EVERFINK), and just twice a month, and the actual number of what you might define as 'stereotypical' excessively black clad goths were in the minority, it was a very broad range of attire indeed.

Any setlists floating about? I ask because I once went to an "extreme metal" night that was mostly Fear Factory and I was sore displeased

Any night's a good night for seeing a good band....

yes if don't have to pay £20 4 a babysitter on my wage plus i only got one day off work this christmas
that's coz i sold my last big issue :hihi:

just a stock set of stuff from each DJ.

Some DJs do play stock sets, the same old songs all the time, but many I know (including yours truly) carry thousands of tracks along and vary it. They also take requests, so if the public are asking for the same old songs...that's not the DJ's stock set.

I also do a rock night up at the White Bear in Ecclesfield every Friday night. Most of the punters like to hear fairly recent rock there.

Excuse me?! You actually bothered to read any of our flyers?

Tues - Control Frequency - Industiral/EBM/Noise
Wed - Rockaoke - Rock karaoke
Thurs - Stormblast - extreme metal (been going well over a year!)
Fri/Sat - Generations of Rock (including DJ Lez downstairs every Sat night)

The only 'goth' night (Dark~Matter - EBM/industrial/goth) we do is fortnightly downstairs, and we're removing the 'goth' bit from that this year.

So you see, no 'goth' in sight...
Or are you just assuming that because it's painted red and black that it must be 'goth'?
yes ,lots of goths upstairs on sat night or is that the bar staff :hihi:
after reading your flyers change generations of rock to classic rock night
or to
the same 20 80s rock track night every week or i will give you a free drink:hihi:
its not generations of rock music what happened to rock after 1990 ???
buy your djs a hmv gift voucher each for Christmas so they can buy some new cds
like iron maidens new cd never heard it in your pub upstairs or down

your djs would be the best in south yorkshire if it was 1987:thumbsup:
ps
maybe you are stopping the goth night coz people have found a better goth night at a better pub????

just a stock set of stuff from each DJ.

Some DJs do play stock sets, the same old songs all the time, but many I know (including yours truly) carry thousands of tracks along and vary it. They also take requests, so if the public are asking for the same old songs...that's not the DJ's stock set.

I also do a rock night up at the White Bear in Ecclesfield every Friday night. Most of the punters like to hear fairly recent rock there.
yes you play wot people ask 4 :thumbsup:

No Rebs (kids used to come from all over the county for the dump we loved so much) no wap, no Yorkies, Maily, Hornblower... Roxys rock night.. :help:

yes you are right!!!
we used to come up from london to go to rebels as the rock seen was a lot better than the smoke at that time
oh yes forgot lots of good looking ladies as well:love:
two times bus fulls to rock city as well.
happy new year to you as well fox

Any setlists floating about? I ask because I once went to an "extreme metal" night that was mostly Fear Factory and I was sore displeased

http://www.amodelofcontrol.com/playlists/

its not generations of rock music what happened to rock after 1990 ???
gets played all the time


like iron maidens new cd never heard it in your pub upstairs or down

Well I bought it the day it came out and Lez has it as well.
Have you ever actually requested it?

http://www.amodelofcontrol.com/playlists/Stormblast looks pretty awesome actually...

Excuse me?! You actually bothered to read any of our flyers?

Tues - Control Frequency - Industiral/EBM/Noise
Wed - Rockaoke - Rock karaoke
Thurs - Stormblast - extreme metal (been going well over a year!)
Fri/Sat - Generations of Rock (including DJ Lez downstairs every Sat night)

The only 'goth' night (Dark~Matter - EBM/industrial/goth) we do is fortnightly downstairs, and we're removing the 'goth' bit from that this year.

So you see, no 'goth' in sight...
Or are you just assuming that because it's painted red and black that it must be 'goth'?

Tim, it's full of the buggers ;) . In fairness, it's been gothy/industrial whenever I've been in, and it's just not my thing; I just must have been in on the wrong days mate ........ it has been a while too ........

Small? You wouldn't think that if you had to clean and decorate the place!! Felt like the same size as the City hall stuck up on scaffolds pouring black paint over my head and stepping in pots of purple emulsion. Oh that was a FUN day!!!!:hihi:

And as Tim says, anything painted black (or black/red) does not necessarily mean a goth venue....or person even. We have a black ceiling and black doors but we are not a goth venue. We had a goth night last night (EVERFINK), and just twice a month, and the actual number of what you might define as 'stereotypical' excessively black clad goths were in the minority, it was a very broad range of attire indeed.

I know Tim quite well, and it was a tad of a wind up :thumbsup: . I used to work just down from you, and above Tim's place (that's blown my cover), so I know both places pretty well .......

Some DJs do play stock sets, the same old songs all the time, but many I know (including yours truly) carry thousands of tracks along and vary it. They also take requests, so if the public are asking for the same old songs...that's not the DJ's stock set.

I also do a rock night up at the White Bear in Ecclesfield every Friday night. Most of the punters like to hear fairly recent rock there.

Nobody EVER requested 'Stargazer' ......... :hihi:

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gets played all the time



Well I bought it the day it came out and Lez has it as well.
Have you ever actually requested it?
:o what you are joking i have taken cds to one of your djs for years metal church never ever ever got it played took cd in not long a go never ever ever got it played

off work today what have i played lets see
mostly autumn -catch the spirit
maiden - life & death
ramms+ein mutter
evanescence- fallen
you never play any of them on sat "sorry" ramms+ein once :o
hell !!!! lets see bands from the 80s you don't play on a sat night
night ranger ,metal church, giant ,Alcatraz , triumph , slaughter, Gillan , demon ,marillion , accept .warlock .pearl jam, raven .reo speedwagon,
white lion, badlands ,annihilator ,slayer, merciful fate, Alaska ,exodus ,yes MSG, Gary Moore, helloween, shotgun messiah ,
there are a few 4 you
heard "its a mad house" NEW years eve went down a storm yes i do love all the bands your djs play but lets just hear a few different bands or different songs as they always play same songs eg Pink Floyd Arnold Lane, Ozzy Crazy Train, Deep Purple Highway Star, AC/DC Back In Black, Led Zeppelin- Rock N Roll, Journey Don't Stop Believin, Rush Spirit of the Radio. Autograph Turn Up the Radio,sabbath war pigs , rainbow since you've been gone,thin lizzy the boys are back in town last of all that boring neil young track :huh:
well i am only down for last orders on sat and dont mind hearing 2-3 real classics once a week
in the end people vote with their feet your loss not mine

It's a difficult thing this DJ business....if you have a crowd of regulars who request the same stuff each week, you feel almost obliged to play the stuff they want, as they are the regulars after all, and hand over large amounts of their hard earned cash every week at the bar. One is trherefore less likely to play a lot of less obvious stuff requested by 'floating' punters as they may not come back for another month anyway....

Its a fine art to balance the standard 'classics' such as some of tracks listed above, ie Rainbow 'Since you've been gone', with some of the many alternative options, especially if you have say 10 punters requesting one track played every week anyway, and only one request for a track that may not 'impress' the regulars too much. What is the solution?

Not an easy task..... because at the Dove we have some regulars who always want the same tracks each week, very much in line with the tracks listed above, but also a core of new people each week who want totally different stuff.....it can be a real task sometimes to try and blend the old regularly played classic rock tracks with material that most may not be too familiar with.....

I find Goldenfleece very obliging.
He comes over and says hello and actually asks me what requests I would like. And he always plays them for me. Perfect, pour me beer and play me rock music.

Marvellous. :thumbsup:

maiden - life & death
ramms+ein mutter
evanescence- fallen
you never play any of them on sat "sorry" ramms+ein once :o

eh? those bands get played practically every week

hell !!!! lets see bands from the 80s you don't play on a sat night
hang on, you were moaning that we don't play anything after '87. Make your mind up mate

well i am only down for last orders on sat and dont mind hearing 2-3 real classics once a week

ah, and there you have it. You expect to come in at the end of the night and get all yours requests played straight away. Fact is from about 9.30 Lez's entire setlist is all requests, he'll often go on the mic asking people not to request anymore cos he's all booked up for the rest of the night.

in the end people vote with their feet your loss not mine
erm not really, we're packed most weekends, and the Xmas period just gone we did twice as much as the year before

but thanks for your past custom anyway

Ah yes, it is SO annoyng when someone comes in at 10 mins to midnight and expects to hear about 20 tracks, all of which have been played previously.... then try explaining to a punter that they have missed all their requested songs a few hours earlier and they go ape and try and make out they were all played far too early and that 10 minutes to midnight is the PEAK of the evening and of course there is time to play 90 minutes worth of songs when the doors have to be locked and pub cleared at 1230!!! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

Pop down here Nightwish and I will oblige you with all your requests providing:

1) it is not 10 minutes away from closing and you want to hear 20 tracks in exact order and only mport remix versions by obscure German sound engineers,
and
2) its not a specialist night where the choice of music would be out of context with the theme.......

It's a difficult thing this DJ business....if you have a crowd of regulars who request the same stuff each week, you feel almost obliged to play the stuff they want, as they are the regulars after all, and hand over large amounts of their hard earned cash every week at the bar. One is trherefore less likely to play a lot of less obvious stuff requested by 'floating' punters as they may not come back for another month anyway....

Its a fine art to balance the standard 'classics' such as some of tracks listed above, ie Rainbow 'Since you've been gone', with some of the many alternative options, especially if you have say 10 punters requesting one track played every week anyway, and only one request for a track that may not 'impress' the regulars too much. What is the solution?

Not an easy task..... because at the Dove we have some regulars who always want the same tracks each week, very much in line with the tracks listed above, but also a core of new people each week who want totally different stuff.....it can be a real task sometimes to try and blend the old regularly played classic rock tracks with material that most may not be too familiar with.....
yes goldenfleece i understand wot you are saying
play new maiden tracks at the start of the night then people get to know them then you start playing them later as your regulars get to know them :thumbsup: and drop the good classic songs in as well
yes we all hate it if you play lots of songs we dont know all night but please remember this thread is about playing the songs we want to hear you play what people want to hear even if it is paranoid by sabbath
so do see what i mean
i dont think you are far away from being the best rock pub
what you could do on sat night make some room 4 a bit of a dance floor some more dance lights bingo :thumbsup:
people would stay till you closed
you have done so well in what less than 3 months
can you have a dance floor? or do you need a licence for that:confused: as h/s laws are so tight
keep up the good work:thumbsup:

i dont think you are far away from being the best rock pub
what you could do on sat night make some room 4 a bit of a dance floor some more dance lights bingo :thumbsup:
people would stay till you closed
you have done so well in what less than 3 months
can you have a dance floor? or do you need a licence for that:confused: as h/s laws are so tight
keep up the good work:thumbsup:

No room for a dancefloor really, people would be crashing into the bar and falling over chairs....now we put in a stage but no one is actually allowed on that to dance, so say the Council anyway........

dance lights?....er....not really our 'thing' if you know what I mean...we have lighting for bands now in place, parcans, etc, but as for flashing 'disco' lights, I dont think it would enhance our 'offer'....

Remember,just ask me for whatever you want, and subject to the rule in earlier post, I will normally play it if I have it........

eh? those bands get played practically every week


hang on, you were moaning that we don't play anything after '87. Make your mind up mate



ah, and there you have it. You expect to come in at the end of the night and get all yours requests played straight away. Fact is from about 9.30 Lez's entire setlist is all requests, he'll often go on the mic asking people not to request anymore cos he's all booked up for the rest of the night.


erm not really, we're packed most weekends, and the Xmas period just gone we did twice as much as the year before

but thanks for your past custom anyway
open your eyes
i l:love: all the tracks lez plays but don't want to hear them every week
i used to come in all night but as i say ask 4 a track never gets played the djs the problem not you this hole thread is about hearing songs we want to hear ask lez 4 metal church metal church as i have been waiting over 12 years is his request list that long, years !!!!:hihi: as i said my mates a dj so i would never come in the last moment and ask 4 a song:suspect: and hope to get it played
the list was bands from the 80s lez dont play
i can give you a list from the 90s as well if you like
sorry i am not the only one to :rant:
lots think the same way :D
its nice to see you care about my past custom i would say hope for more of your custom in the future
keep lez on the flyers so i know when to start coming back down again:)

What happened to djs playing songs that people haven't heard yet and then people liking it and asking what it was?

I much prefer to hear some good music I don't know and to go and buy it the day after, rather than have Iron Maiden and Evanescence played at me all night.

Metal dj sets tend to be very stale.

The problem with rock/metal is that its covers music from the last 40 years and many folk only really think of stuff that they liked from 15-25 as the "real" rock/metal - and everything else is too old/young/trendy/obscure - so its virtually impossible to keep everyone happy.

But I am quite entertained that people are still asking Lez (the ex-Rebels DJ??) for Metal Church and still not getting it played - has someone set the tardis for twenty years ago??

The problem with rock/metal is that its covers music from the last 40 years and many folk only really think of stuff that they liked from 15-25 as the "real" rock/metal - and everything else is too old/young/trendy/obscure - so its virtually impossible to keep everyone happy.

But I am quite entertained that people are still asking Lez (the ex-Rebels DJ??) for Metal Church and still not getting it played - has someone set the tardis for twenty years ago??

Yeah, exactly. There's more to metal than AC/DC, Maiden and Steppenwolf. Makes me cringe to hear the same songs over and over. I don't even really like to hear Metallica or Pantera played. I'm tired of it.

The problem with rock/metal is that its covers music from the last 40 years and many folk only really think of stuff that they liked from 15-25 as the "real" rock/metal - and everything else is too old/young/trendy/obscure - so its virtually impossible to keep everyone happy.

But I am quite entertained that people are still asking Lez (the ex-Rebels DJ??) for Metal Church and still not getting it played - has someone set the tardis for twenty years ago??
it was 12 years ago and sill waiting even took him the cd with play track 2 on it
yes its hard to keep the rockers happy but as i have said the same songs week in week out just a few new bands in the play list would be nice:)
:help: has any one heard the new iron maiden cd the matter of life and death at the nelson on a sat night as i have been told they play it i may have been in the bog when it was played or up stairs or down stairs if i am wrong i will say sorry to the nelson:thumbsup:

Yeah, exactly. There's more to metal than AC/DC, Maiden and Steppenwolf. Makes me cringe to hear the same songs over and over. I don't even really like to hear Metallica or Pantera played. I'm tired of it.
yes theres more to metal as you say than the top bands :thumbsup: i look on the internet 4 free downloads of new bands
see if i like them if i do go and :wow: them when they tour my mates tell me about new bands as well yes some i think are s:gag: it but the odd 1can be so good i first heard bands like nightwish back in late 2002 as bern my mate was mad about them at the time

What do you think of the new Maiden release? Mixed feelings?

I have already made a comment on the Corporation thread that quite a few of my friends refuse to go to the Corporation any more as they find the music as you say has gone very pop/rock commercial and boring and dont seem to play any good guitar orientated head banging music anymore.

So which nights do you go on? Last time I went to Hard side there was Biohazard, Pantera, Metallica, Mastodon, Tool to name but a few artists played.

However if you insist on staying downstairs in the main room then you get what you deserve ;) The small room on a Monday is very good and Stocky who is one of the DJs is great....he used to DJ at Hardside which made it fantastic.

If you find it crap, complain, you're a customer!

What do you think of the new Maiden release? Mixed feelings?

It is a wonderful return to form. I love the way they have developed over the last few years, and added some interesting elements to their songwriting and their sound.

Bearing in mind how old they are now, they are never going to come up with another record like number of the beast which would break boundaries. This new record is much better than anything I could have hoped for, I had written them off completely many years ago.

Metal dj sets tend to be very stale.

...if you are playing the same metal as everyone else.

At Stormblast I have now been successfully sticking to a diet of extreme metal (in many varying forms) every Thursday for over a year now. I won't play "classic" metal, whats the point? That is not what I - or the majority of the punters - are there for.

I have a number of DJs that DJ alongside me, that help to keep things fresh musically.

The other thing? Requests are more than welcome, but like other popular nights, it helps to get your requests in early - I will often refuse if only half-an-hour is left, for obvious reasons!

yes cant go out in the week as i work and i start at 0600 and do a 12 hour shift so the weekend is the only time
we have a kid as well but thanks
as this is all about playing songs the punters want to hear not the same 20 songs week after week after week after week

What do you think of the new Maiden release? Mixed feelings?

yes found it a bit hard going at first if you listen to the whole album
Bruce's voice at times you cant hear what he is singing and its in the same tone a lot of the time:o
best track i think is different world as i like the short hard hitting songs by
iron maiden but they do some bad tracks as well the last cd i didn't like as much as this one
but the new cd has a lot of punch in it more than the last i think:huh:
but is bruce's voice going:o what do you think:confused:

So which nights do you go on? Last time I went to Hard side there was Biohazard, Pantera, Metallica, Mastodon, Tool to name but a few artists played.

However if you insist on staying downstairs in the main room then you get what you deserve ;) The small room on a Monday is very good and Stocky who is one of the DJs is great....he used to DJ at Hardside which made it fantastic.

If you find it crap, complain, you're a customer!
done that!!!
no the whole thread is about djs playing songs you ask for as i like old rock and some new metal as well:huh:
if you read this thread start to end you will see what i mean

There's more metal here than SE Kent, and my mates love it when they come up to see me hear!
Feb 20th is coming Simple Mind Condition, May looms Trouble at Bradford it's been 14 years, can't wait

Sad thing about the metal scene in sheffield is people are quite happy to listen to ac/dc, led zep, iron maiden, metallica(enter sandman) etc. Once you start playing stuff which i consider good metal (death, early in flames, at the gates, anthrax, venom, mayhem, napalm death etc etc) you get a lot of people slagging you off. face it sheffields metal scene is so close minded and stangnant.

Sad thing about the metal scene in sheffield is people are quite happy to listen to ac/dc, led zep, iron maiden, metallica(enter sandman) etc. Once you start playing stuff which i consider good metal (death, early in flames, at the gates, anthrax, venom, mayhem, napalm death etc etc) you get a lot of people slagging you off. face it sheffields metal scene is so close minded and stangnant.

Try and get some Candlemass played then .......

haha wouldnt make a difference. too many arogant elists

What do you think of the new Maiden release? Mixed feelings?

Same as the last couple.... I know I'll warm to it ...... :)

I'l be in about 7-ish lad ........

haha wouldnt make a difference. too many arogant elists

And good old Messiah Marcolin is a HUGE Sabbath fan too ....... having said that, I'll bring down my live Candlemass tomorrow for after the match ........

And good old Messiah Marcolin is a HUGE Sabbath fan too ....... having said that, I'll bring down my live Candlemass tomorrow for after the match ........
does the name dave constable ring a bell
i think he went to manager the band candlemass :confused:
have not seen him 4 a good 20 years worked at shades records yes records with mike Shanon who is now manger of chariot Steve price went on to arfm Internet rock radio http://www.arfm.co.uk/
is it time 4 a new night club in Sheffield like rebels size there is a place next to fuel that is m.t. is it big in side does any one know is it club size:confused:

Sad thing about the metal scene in sheffield is people are quite happy to listen to ac/dc, led zep, iron maiden, metallica(enter sandman) etc. Once you start playing stuff which i consider good metal (death, early in flames, at the gates, anthrax, venom, mayhem, napalm death etc etc) you get a lot of people slagging you off. face it sheffields metal scene is so close minded and stangnant.

I think it depends what sort of crowd you have in at any time. I know Napalm Death goes down like a lead balloon when I have played it....especially if you have an older more seasoned crowd in........its not everyone is narrow minded, its just that certain groups of punters dont like certain variations of metal or rock, thats not being narrow minded, it means just not liking it. I know a classic rocker who totally despises and hates the band Deep Purple, ANYTHING they have ever done, but thats just their personal taste......

I think it depends what sort of crowd you have in at any time. I know Napalm Death goes down like a lead balloon when I have played it....especially if you have an older more seasoned crowd in........its not everyone is narrow minded, its just that certain groups of punters dont like certain variations of metal or rock, thats not being narrow minded, it means just not liking it. I know a classic rocker who totally despises and hates the band Deep Purple, ANYTHING they have ever done, but thats just their personal taste......

Totally agree with that.
Sometimes we have to exercise our veto on requests if we feel in our professional opinion that it's just not gonna go down well.

But also, as DJs we have to regularly listen to bands/songs we may not like ourselves. Lately I've turned over a lot of my DJ responsibilites over to Glen/DJ Kicker (my assistant manager), simply because I'm tired of having to play the same songs each week. Until I find my enthusiasm for it again. So I do sympathise with certain commentators on this thread. However, if we didn't appeal to the majority, it would be financial suicide!

which raises an interesting question...

POLL:
To all Rock DJs reading this...
Is there any band/song that you will refuse to play (even if you own it) because you dislike it that much you simply can't bring yourself to play it?

I'll go first:
anything by The Mission
Closer by NIN (I've had to listen to that bloody song in every rock bar/club that I've been to for the last 10 years! I used to like it at first btw)

Let the flaming commence :thumbsup:

POLL:
To all Rock DJs reading this...
Is there any band/song that you will refuse to play (even if you own it) because you dislike it that much you simply can't bring yourself to play it?

I'll go first:
anything by The Mission
Closer by NIN (I've had to listen to that bloody song in every rock bar/club that I've been to for the last 10 years! I used to like it at first btw)

Let the flaming commence :thumbsup:

Hmmmmmmm......
My pet hates are also the incredibly overplayed stuff that is always requested, and you always most certainly probably hear at any classic rock night anywhere..

ie SINCE YOU BEEN GONE by Rainbow.....as much as I love Rainbow, that song does my head in......surely the most played to death song in classic rock history...I hate it so much I have to put headphones on and listen to something else while its playing.....

add to that
PARADISE CITY by GnR..........incessantly boring after the 2000th listen, even the short 7" single edit version with the dramatically cut down guitar solo still annoys me......fingernails on a blackboard for me this tune!!!

And just beginning to get very bored of 'Whisky in the Jar' by Thin lizzy.....a total and very important rock classic of course, but gets painful when its requested ALL the time.....

But as the Nelson points out, its the regulars who will always most certainly continue to get their requests played, as without those core groups being kept very happy and made to feel important, business can never be as good.......

tricky thing is also explaining to a non regular why you refuse to play that obscure Slayer album track in the middle of a classic rock set.....they never seem to appreciate that majority tastes at any time will over rule their own personal requirements, or that that obscure Slayer album track wont blend very well with Sweet home Alabama!!!!

Hmmmmmmm......
tricky thing is also explaining to a non regular why you refuse to play that obscure Slayer album track in the middle of a classic rock set.....they never seem to appreciate that majority tastes at any time will over rule their own personal requirements, or that that obscure Slayer album track wont blend very well with Sweet home Alabama!!!!

It always makes me laugh when 'classic' rockers come in on a Thursday (Stormblast - extreme metal night) and ask for Thin Lizzy/Deep Purple/Led Zep. D'oh. Poor Adam, it's no wonder he has very little hair on his head ;)

And last Friday was particularly funny, when Glen had to play DragonForce cos more than one person requested it. He hates them with a passion, and always berates me for playing them. The most excruciating 7 minutes of his life! lol

Its strange what nostalgia does - do people really miss Rebels or just miss their youth when they used to go to Rebels - and things werent all confusing with all these youngsters and their new music?

Whatever you may think of Corp - at least its run by people who like the music - which is a lot more than could be said for the Rebels management...

Hmmmmmmm......
tricky thing is also explaining to a non regular why you refuse to play that obscure Slayer album track in the middle of a classic rock set.....they never seem to appreciate that majority tastes at any time will over rule their own personal requirements, or that that obscure Slayer album track wont blend very well with Sweet home Alabama!!!!

You'll probably find this funny then...

http://www.writheandshine.com/strip.php?strip=236

Hmmm...my user name probably is a bit outdated for the style of music I play these days.

Even at the old Classic Rock Bar we didn't just play classic rock, we played anything that was asked for. These days I mix it up, some new stuff gets played as well as the classics which are asked for.

I don't tend to get requests for the heavy and obscure....thankfully...although do carry a fair amount of rock by bands that are non mainstream rock.

It's fairly easy to incorporate lesser popular requests into a set....there's an art to it...:)

Buffy

bands i have found out about that are OK darf i think you spelli t like that very heavy and a band called malpractice take a look
http://www.rock-city.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?pid=2714

Totally agree with that.
Sometimes we have to exercise our veto on requests if we feel in our professional opinion that it's just not gonna go down well.

But also, as DJs we have to regularly listen to bands/songs we may not like ourselves. Lately I've turned over a lot of my DJ responsibilites over to Glen/DJ Kicker (my assistant manager), simply because I'm tired of having to play the same songs each week. Until I find my enthusiasm for it again. So I do sympathise with certain commentators on this thread. However, if we didn't appeal to the majority, it would be financial suicide!

which raises an interesting question...

POLL:
To all Rock DJs reading this...
Is there any band/song that you will refuse to play (even if you own it) because you dislike it that much you simply can't bring yourself to play it?

I'll go first:
anything by The Mission
Closer by NIN (I've had to listen to that bloody song in every rock bar/club that I've been to for the last 10 years! I used to like it at first btw)

Let the flaming commence :thumbsup:

Wasn't a DJ, but used to work with naughty people who used unused FM space while was very young ........ so I'll have a semi-qualified stab at it .......

If I EVER hear 'Stairway To Heaven' again, I'll not be held responsible for my actions ....... BUT it's 'our song' and all the rest for loads of people, so it can't be banned, so it's fair enough ..... I have to go outside so I can't hear it.

'Enter Bloody Sandman'; they did other stuff too. Better stuff.

This may be heresy to the metallers, but I really cannot hear several Sabbath songs ever again (much as I love the Sabbath), but 'Iron Man' really does my biscuit in. People used to ask for it and say "Just so you don't hear 'Paranoid' again!"

Thoughtful, however usually, I'd have preferred to have heard Paranoid .........

Anything by Manowar ....... because .......

But as the Nelson points out, its the regulars who will always most certainly continue to get their requests played, as without those core groups being kept very happy and made to feel important, business can never be as good.......

Seems fair to me ......

tricky thing is also explaining to a non regular why you refuse to play that obscure Slayer album track in the middle of a classic rock set.....they never seem to appreciate that majority tastes at any time will over rule their own personal requirements, or that that obscure Slayer album track wont blend very well with Sweet home Alabama!!!!

Which is why I waited to ask for Candlemass! Have to say, a very enjoyable evening, and I forgot the CD!

Well sadly i have to say the only solution is to advertise nights as sub genre specific such as death metal nights, classic metal nights, glam metal nights etc etc. even say extreme metal nights, i have mates that listen to a lot of death metal but find the idea of black metal a joke. however this would never work because you dont have the numbers to support it, thats why metal nights are so ambigious and you have people whining all the time.

Sad thing about the metal scene in sheffield is people are quite happy to listen to ac/dc, led zep, iron maiden, metallica(enter sandman) etc. Once you start playing stuff which i consider good metal (death, early in flames, at the gates, anthrax, venom, mayhem, napalm death etc etc) you get a lot of people slagging you off. face it sheffields metal scene is so close minded and stangnant.
yes so stagnant its starting to smell like s:gag: it

I'd like to add if i ever wanted to listen to what i consider metal, i have my cd collection. when i go to places like corp, the nelson etc im out there to have a drink and a good time, not to whine about what music is being played.

Interesting thread. No one is going to be 100% happy 100% of the time at any club/pub.

So it seems pointless argueing (sp). If you want a specific night of a specific type of music then nelson has plenty of variation during the week. Not ideal but i guess a death metal night on a saturday would be poor for business!! lol

i guess a death metal night on a saturday would be poor for business!! lol

Would be a real challenge!!!! Possible, but very very difficult, unless you found a way of converting all classic rock lovers to death metal? Hmmmmmm......

look into my eyes..I will count backwards from 10 and you will feel very sleepy......10...9...8, etc .you love death metal.....it is your reason to live, without death metal you would surely become nothing........:hihi:

I try to make excuses when people ask for Living on a Prayer. I pretend I don't have it....but they *know* I do. Sick of it. Also Summer of 69. Everyone loves it but hearing it several nights a week does my box in! Also Sweet child o mine and anything by the Arctic Monkeys (enough said on that band).

I was asked for Take That mid rock set last night by a woman and had to explain several times that it was a rock night, she just didn't seem to understand! She walked off bitterly disappointed.

I always do enjoy playing Rammstein and Disturbed back to back, cos little Jackie always gets up, irrespective of how busy the pub is and dances/moshes/headbangs to it. Regulars are used to it, but she's had some odd looks in the past!

What happened to djs playing songs that people haven't heard yet and then people liking it and asking what it was?

I much prefer to hear some good music I don't know and to go and buy it the day after, rather than have Iron Maiden and Evanescence played at me all night.

Metal dj sets tend to be very stale.

This has always been my complaint from living in Sheffield for years and going to all the Rock venues. For my money the best DJ for mixing it up was Les when at Rebels , he would play pretty much everything rocky from INXS to Metallica . People kept dancing and it remained interesting. Who wants to listen to a such a narrow genre as death or grunge or classic rock all night? The best and current of all these genres is what DJs should be playing if they want to keep their audience interested . You gotta keep it moving forward or all you'll do is strangle the rock/metal scene in its broadest sense . Its been ****e watching the average age of the people listiening and going to rock pubs get older and uglier. Does anyone remember the girls on Monday nights at Roxys?

I'd like to add if i ever wanted to listen to what i consider metal, i have my cd collection. when i go to places like corp, the nelson etc im out there to have a drink and a good time, not to whine about what music is being played.
yes but i go every week and to hear the same songs week after week after week after week can get boring :(
:thumbsup: yes i go out for a good time as well

This has always been my complaint from living in Sheffield for years and going to all the Rock venues. For my money the best DJ for mixing it up was Les when at Rebels , he would play pretty much everything rocky from INXS to Metallica . People kept dancing and it remained interesting. Who wants to listen to a such a narrow genre as death or grunge or classic rock all night? The best and current of all these genres is what DJs should be playing if they want to keep their audience interested . You gotta keep it moving forward or all you'll do is strangle the rock/metal scene in its broadest sense . Its been ****e watching the average age of the people listiening and going to rock pubs get older and uglier. Does anyone remember the girls on Monday nights at Roxys?
:thumbsup: right on and the girls at Roxy's yes slept with a few:blush:

last night i said to someone i know will he play a request 4 me and he said only if you wear a short skirt i said ok i will wear one next week:hihi:

Personally, I dont care - if I have it, I will play it as long as I can fit it into whats already been requested.

Would be a real challenge!!!! Possible, but very very difficult, unless you found a way of converting all classic rock lovers to death metal? Hmmmmmm......

look into my eyes..I will count backwards from 10 and you will feel very sleepy......10...9...8, etc .you love death metal.....it is your reason to live, without death metal you would surely become nothing........:hihi:its worked on me lawnmower death please :hihi:

I try to make excuses when people ask for Living on a Prayer. I pretend I don't have it....but they *know* I do. Sick of it. Also Summer of 69. Everyone loves it but hearing it several nights a week does my box in! Also Sweet child o mine and anything by the Arctic Monkeys (enough said on that band).

I was asked for Take That mid rock set last night by a woman and had to explain several times that it was a rock night, she just didn't seem to understand! She walked off bitterly disappointed.

I always do enjoy playing Rammstein and Disturbed back to back, cos little Jackie always gets up, irrespective of how busy the pub is and dances/moshes/headbangs to it. Regulars are used to it, but she's had some odd looks in the past!
say i have played it earlier but i will play you something else of that cd 9 out 10 wont know any other track on the cd then play id die 4 you
better track:thumbsup:

Hmmmmmmm......
My pet hates are also the incredibly overplayed stuff that is always requested, and you always most certainly probably hear at any classic rock night anywhere..

ie SINCE YOU BEEN GONE by Rainbow.....as much as I love Rainbow, that song does my head in......surely the most played to death song in classic rock history...I hate it so much I have to put headphones on and listen to something else while its playing.....

add to that
PARADISE CITY by GnR..........incessantly boring after the 2000th listen, even the short 7" single edit version with the dramatically cut down guitar solo still annoys me......fingernails on a blackboard for me this tune!!!

And just beginning to get very bored of 'Whisky in the Jar' by Thin lizzy.....a total and very important rock classic of course, but gets painful when its requested ALL the time.....

But as the Nelson points out, its the regulars who will always most certainly continue to get their requests played, as without those core groups being kept very happy and made to feel important, business can never be as good.......

tricky thing is also explaining to a non regular why you refuse to play that obscure Slayer album track in the middle of a classic rock set.....they never seem to appreciate that majority tastes at any time will over rule their own personal requirements, or that that obscure Slayer album track wont blend very well with Sweet home Alabama!!!! slayer south of heaven seems to go down on a classic night ok just:suspect: whisky in the jar play the metallica version:thumbsup:

buffy help where is the white bear as i would like to come down 1 fri it sounds a good night

Hmmm...my user name probably is a bit outdated for the style of music I play these days.

Even at the old Classic Rock Bar we didn't just play classic rock, we played anything that was asked for. These days I mix it up, some new stuff gets played as well as the classics which are asked for.

I don't tend to get requests for the heavy and obscure....thankfully...although do carry a fair amount of rock by bands that are non mainstream rock.

It's fairly easy to incorporate lesser popular requests into a set....there's an art to it...:)

Buffy

You do get some obscure requests! Twisted Christmas ring any bells? :hihi:

A friend of mine promotes Tues nights at the broadway...which is a metal night..usually newest band etc ...check it out

buffy help where is the white bear as i would like to come down 1 fri it sounds a good night

It's in the village square of Ecclesfield. Not far from the church. :thumbsup:

You do get some obscure requests! Twisted Christmas ring any bells? :hihi:

yeah, some strange people do bring in CDs and force me to play them! Oh come all ye faithful will never seem the same again!

for anyone not knowing where the White Bear is in Ecco, try this post code on Multimap

S35 9YT

that gets you into the square

Buffy is in the white bear
bruno is in the stocks

Casbah is pants, so is The Sportsman

A friend of mine promotes Tues nights at the broadway...which is a metal night..usually newest band etc ...check it out thanks 4 the offer but i can only go out on weekends as got to get babysitter and work 12 hour shifts in the week up at 6am:gag:

It's in the village square of Ecclesfield. Not far from the church. :thumbsup:thanks bee down the week bee 4 saxon or a weak friday:thumbsup:

for anyone not knowing where the White Bear is in Ecco, try this post code on Multimap

S35 9YT

that gets you into the square

Buffy is in the white bear
bruno is in the stocks
yes good old multimap i wood bee lost with out it:huh:
i only download the maps as if you download the directions you end up on some farm track near matlock:hihi:
turn right 100 yards join the m1 for 200 yards then turn left sow on sow on thanks eric:thumbsup:

Wasn't a DJ, but used to work with naughty people who used unused FM space while was very young ........ so I'll have a semi-qualified stab at it .......

If I EVER hear 'Stairway To Heaven' again, I'll not be held responsible for my actions ....... BUT it's 'our song' and all the rest for loads of people, so it can't be banned, so it's fair enough ..... I have to go outside so I can't hear it.

'Enter Bloody Sandman'; they did other stuff too. Better stuff.

This may be heresy to the metallers, but I really cannot hear several Sabbath songs ever again (much as I love the Sabbath), but 'Iron Man' really does my biscuit in. People used to ask for it and say "Just so you don't hear 'Paranoid' again!"

Thoughtful, however usually, I'd have preferred to have heard Paranoid .........

Anything by Manowar ....... because ....... yes i have a lot o/s maps to find the highest points as well what type of link TX did you use band 3 or microwave and how many watts was your FM output to air

Found Metal Church - A Light In The Dark album in HMV today.
Ask me upstairs tonight and I'll play something off it for you.

tonight...
upstairs: DJ Moth Boy - new rock n metal (best and latest)
downstairs: DJ Lez - classic rock (all your old favourites)

http://www.myspace.com/the_nelson_rock_bar

it was 12 years ago and sill waiting even took him the cd with play track 2 on it
yes its hard to keep the rockers happy but as i have said the same songs week in week out just a few new bands in the play list would be nice:)
:help: has any one heard the new iron maiden cd the matter of life and death at the nelson on a sat night as i have been told they play it i may have been in the bog when it was played or up stairs or down stairs if i am wrong i will say sorry to the nelson:thumbsup:

DOVE AND RAINBOW will be playing all the very latest rock chart hits tonight from 6pm onwards.........all thro to Midnight, non stop current rock chart hits such as offerings from:
THE KILLERS, AUDIOSLAVE, RHCP, STONE SOUR, BREAKING BENJAMIN, HINDER, PANIC AT THE DISCO, DISTURBED, EVERCLEAR, LACUNA COIL, AVENGED SEVENFOLD, LAMB OF GOD, MUSE, MUDVAYNE, NEW FOUND GLORY, SLAYER, IRON MAIDEN, THE FRAY, ALIEN ANT FARM, GREEN DAY, BLACK LABEL SOCIETY, MARS VOLTA, SILVERSUN PICKUPS, SNOW PATROL, KORN, FLYLEAF, LOST PROPHETS, THREE DAYS GRACE, TAKING BACK SUNDAY, COBRA STARSHIP, GODSMACK, SHINEDOWN, RISE AGAINST, BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE, and many many more recent rock hits!!!

PLUS all your classic rock anthems as well, you name it, we spin the disc!!!!
BON JOVI, GUNS AND ROSES, POISON, MOTLEY CRUE, LED ZEPP, STONES, DOORS, PURPLE, HENDRIX, FREE, SAXON, MAIDEN, AC/DC, MOTORHEAD, LEPPARD, JUDAS PRIEST, VAN HALEN, you name it...WE PLAY IT>>in a stupendous megamix of non stop rock and metal........

MEGA REQUEST FRIENDLY....BRING DOWN YOUR OWN PLAYLIST!!!!! IF WE HAVE IT AND ITS NOT TOO OBSCURE, IT GETS PLAYED!!

Remember, if you dont ask, you dont get, so grab ANYONE wearing a Dove and Rainbow T shirt and ask for whatever you want.....on your way to the Corp, what more could you possibly want, aside from the excellant range of cask ales and ciders we now have on........:thumbsup:

Stormblast at the Nelson on thursdays is the only real place to hear NEW as well as classic extreme metal. Regular guest DJs keep it fresh and the atmosphere is one of community rather than one of scene. The music, in all honesty, doesn't get heavier/darker/harder ANYWHERE in the city.

And to the poster that said it was a goth place... not for a bloody long time it hasn't been! Which is good, as if I hear 'Eloise' one more time I think I'll spontaneously combust.

I love the Nelson. I love their staff, the place, the music and the atmosphere. I also love the fact that they cater for genres otherwise almost completely neglected everywhere else in the city.

Sure you'll hear Angel of Death and all the obvious tunes get requested every week, but you'll also hear a good chunk of the latest releases as well as more obscure ones.

Stormblast at the Nelson on thursdays is the only real place to hear NEW as well as classic extreme metal. Regular guest DJs keep it fresh and the atmosphere is one of community rather than one of scene. The music, in all honesty, doesn't get heavier/darker/harder ANYWHERE in the city.

.....if it gets requested, it gets played at the Dove, be it ANY extreme metal, classic or new, ......depends what people are in as to what we play, we reflect exactly what the punters expect and request......I do actually have a good collection of extreme stuff that rarely gets heard as generally we dont get asked for it on a regular basis......but its there and just waiting to be heard....

Found Metal Church - A Light In The Dark album in HMV today.
Ask me upstairs tonight and I'll play something off it for you.

tonight...
upstairs: DJ Moth Boy - new rock n metal (best and latest)
downstairs: DJ Lez - classic rock (all your old favourites)
http://www.myspace.com/the_nelson_rock_bar
yes in the last few weeks you have played some tracks i like by drowning pool disturbed
thanks dj moth boy did not sea your post till today Sunday as been on my space have gone in to band mode at mow and will not be coming down on a sat night till near Xmas as lots of bands to go and see and it costs much more to see bands going to see Saxon journey moonspell within temptation etc

I always say that if I've got it, I'll play it.... and I've got thousands of rock tracks!

Found Metal Church - A Light In The Dark album in HMV today.
Ask me upstairs tonight and I'll play something off it for you.

tonight...
upstairs: DJ Moth Boy - new rock n metal (best and latest)
downstairs: DJ Lez - classic rock (all your old favourites)

http://www.myspace.com/the_nelson_rock_bar
DJ MOTH BOY
when i come in to the nelson i will pay you for the cd u got as it shows how much respect you have for the punters that go to the nelson that goes so far with me :)
i took lez the daughtry cd last sat never played it !!!
he said the track "its no over" was to slow not as slow as pink floyd "Time" he played that!!!!:rolleyes:
its such a shame you have to buy and play classic rock upstairs
whats lez getting paid for nothing :huh:
before all lezs fan club start sayin well daughtry is new rock its new style classic rock and the C.R.S support new bands like stream of passion ;)
buffy had it last sat and played it at the moorfoot shes got her finger on the pulse of rock and metal and she gets bands like taras secrets a must see band 10 out of 10 buffy:thumbsup:

I think it's time that someone set up a new pub/club is Sheffield that plays Euro Black metal/Thrash/Goth. I can't stand most American rubbish (an exception would be Disturbed) and that's all I ever seem to hear in clubs. I almost jumped for joy when I heard a Lacuna Coil song the other day (First time ever) Euro metal is heavily underepresented. Maybe we should sabotage the Crasher and paint it metal style to make a point! Do I have to hold up the DJs at gun point to get them to play Nightwish and Sonata Arctica?

Casbah is pants, so is The Sportsman

I don't know why but I passed by Casbah once and it kinda scared me. It was full of aged bikers havin' a fag.

I think it's time that someone set up a new pub/club is Sheffield that plays Euro Black metal/Thrash/Goth. I can't stand most American rubbish (an exception would be Disturbed) and that's all I ever seem to hear in clubs. I almost jumped for joy when I heard a Lacuna Coil song the other day (First time ever) Euro metal is heavily underepresented. Maybe we should sabotage the Crasher and paint it metal style to make a point! Do I have to hold up the DJs at gun point to get them to play Nightwish and Sonata Arctica?

No gun required...just come up and ASK and ye shall receive....Euro black metal, Viking metal, whatever you name it, I will play it if you want it.......one of my regulars who is into viking metal jumped for joy when I played some BATHORY....I seriously will play almost anything :thumbsup:

No gun required...just come up and ASK and ye shall receive....Euro black metal, Viking metal, whatever you name it, I will play it if you want it.......one of my regulars who is into viking metal jumped for joy when I played some BATHORY....I seriously will play almost anything :thumbsup:

Do you have any Leaves Eyes or Turisas by any chance? Where is the Dove and Rainbow anyway? Will check it out, sounds good.

DOVE AND RAINBOW, behind the Bankers Draft, down the little alley off High Street with PIZZA HUT at the High St end.....not down at the pub but have LOVELORN and ELEGY albums by leaves Eyes at home....will bring them down tomorrow..... I am adding stuff all the time so dont be afraid to make any number of suggestions......

Try Thursday nights @ The Nelson for STORMBLAST.
Sheffields first weekly dedicated black/death/doom/thrash/grind/viking metal night. Been going well over a year now!

For flyer...http://www.myspace.com/the_nelson_rock_bar

For playlists...http://www.amodelofcontrol.com/playlists/

I think it's time that someone set up a new pub/club is Sheffield that plays Euro Black metal/Thrash/Goth. I can't stand most American rubbish (an exception would be Disturbed) and that's all I ever seem to hear in clubs. I almost jumped for joy when I heard a Lacuna Coil song the other day (First time ever) Euro metal is heavily underepresented. Maybe we should sabotage the Crasher and paint it metal style to make a point! Do I have to hold up the DJs at gun point to get them to play Nightwish and Sonata Arctica?

I think it's time that someone set up a new pub/club is Sheffield that plays Euro Black metal/Thrash/Goth. I can't stand most American rubbish (an exception would be Disturbed) and that's all I ever seem to hear in clubs. I almost jumped for joy when I heard a Lacuna Coil song the other day (First time ever) Euro metal is heavily underepresented. Maybe we should sabotage the Crasher and paint it metal style to make a point! Do I have to hold up the DJs at gun point to get them to play Nightwish and Sonata Arctica?
yes its so hard 4 the pubs to play all types of rock as old farts like to hear the same 20 80s cds as at the start of the tread :loopy:
but if they got there heads out of the sand to see the light they my like some new bands eg nightwish / daughtry / blind guardian. etc god i am 45 and am not happy bands like this dont get played downstairs at the nelson not even the new iron maiden cd on a sat night i think the dj is to blame as he should be playing new stuff as well as the classics and yes it was good to hear nemo upstairs maybe the change starts here the 80s was a good time for rock but lets move on and if you luv the AOR of the 80s there is a lot of new sounding AOR bands on arfm give it a ear
a lot of the djs are trying hard .buffy .dove and rainbow and.dj moth boy he played to nemo track on sat night

a lot of the djs are trying hard .buffy .dove and rainbow and.dj moth boy he played to nemo track on sat night

I think we all try to please as far as posible, given time restraints, client base and limits on personal collections.......I like to think I have a very varied music collection of over 30,000 tracks, which I do, but there is always stuff I dont have.......or can't play because 1 request from a Dove and Rainbow 'newbie' for obscure Viking metal track up against 30 requests from regulars for Bon Jovi's 'You give love a bad name' is an open and shut case.......

having said that, been listening to a lot of BATHORY in the last 24 hours, and will be playig a lot more viking metal in the future....

am not happy bands like this dont get played downstairs at the nelson not even the new iron maiden cd on a sat night i think the dj is to blame as he should be playing new stuff as well as the classics

Firstly, thanks for the £10 on Saturday night. You really didn't need to. I go out every Monday to HMV and buy all the new releases and things missing from my collection (I don't agree with downloading music illegally). Spend over £100 every week! They love me at HMV:love: Just a pity they don't do a DJ discount like Virgin used to do :(

Secondly, I'm gonna have to stick up for Lez. He plays the old 'classics' because that's what I employ him to do. It's as simple as that. We're lucky enough to have 2 rooms, and so we can do 2 separate genres of rock on the same night. And that's the way I like it. All the DJs I employ have a specific mandate on what to play depending on the night/room.

Tim/Moth Boy/Owner/Buck Stopper :wave:

Do I have to hold up the DJs at gun point to get them to play Nightwish and Sonata Arctica?

Nope - I'll play it if you ask me. I play Nightwish anyway but never get requests for Sonata Arctica.

moth boy
dont you get promos ? sent to you ??

moth boy
dont you get promos ? sent to you ??

yep, on Wild, BMG and Roadrunner mailing lists.
However, I'm useless at getting myself organised and sending the reaction sheets back on time, oops :blush: So the amount they send me fluctuates accordingly. Roadrunner kicked me off last year for not replying in time, but have recently added me back.

Why?

Okay, who plays Viking Skull!!!!

:headband:

I gotta get my fix of the skull every now and then


:)

I think we all try to please as far as posible, given time restraints, client base and limits on personal collections.......I like to think I have a very varied music collection of over 30,000 tracks, which I do, but there is always stuff I dont have.......or can't play because 1 request from a Dove and Rainbow 'newbie' for obscure Viking metal track up against 30 requests from regulars for Bon Jovi's 'You give love a bad name' is an open and shut case.......

having said that, been listening to a lot of BATHORY in the last 24 hours, and will be playig a lot more viking metal in the future....

i can see its money that puts the bon jovi on and not the nightwish yes you have to make money !! but please the odd track is not going to send people screaming to the nelson to hear lez and all the fav classics
at the mow there are so many bands that are good getting no play at all maybe a new rock night once a month instead of the dead night club thing lez does that every binking week :huh: HOW ABOUT :thumbsup: THE NEW ROCK SAT NIGHT SORRY IF ITS FROM THE 80s WE DON'T PLAY IT on your flyer's and you can still play iron maiden Saxon motorhead Ozzy Europe slayer judas priest + heaps more
let rebels the roxy R.I.P.
i loved them times as much as you :thumbsup:
but 20 years have got behind you no 1 told you when to run dont miss the starting gun ;) after all this thread is no metal in Sheffield and i did not start it! !!!!!! stand out !! not in line with the rest to get noticed

yep, on Wild, BMG and Roadrunner mailing lists.
However, I'm useless at getting myself organised and sending the reaction sheets back on time, oops :blush: So the amount they send me fluctuates accordingly. Roadrunner kicked me off last year for not replying in time, but have recently added me back.

Why?

How do you get on these mailing lists?

yep, on Wild, BMG and Roadrunner mailing lists.
However, I'm useless at getting myself organised and sending the reaction sheets back on time, oops :blush: So the amount they send me fluctuates accordingly. Roadrunner kicked me off last year for not replying in time, but have recently added me back.

Why? yes the reaction sheets are a pain in the ass i think you can email them now :confused: just takes me back to 80s that's all pirate radio after moaning about it :hihi:

at the mow there are so many bands that are good getting no play at all maybe a new rock night once a mouth instead of the dead night club thing lez does that every binking week :huh: HOW ABOUT :thumbsup: THE NEW ROCK SAT NIGHT SORRY IF ITS FROM THE 80s WE DON'T PLAY IT on your flyer's and you can still play iron maiden Saxon motorhead Ozzy Europe slayer judas priest + heaps more
let rebels the roxy R.I.P.
i loved them times as much as you :thumbsup:
but 20 years have got behind you no 1 told you when to run dont miss the starting gun ;) after all this tread is no metal in Sheffield and i did not start it! !!!!!! stand out !! not in line with the rest to get noticed

A 'NEW ROCK' NIGHT is a cool idea and one I am planning as I write...totally new rock and metal and probably twice monthly, but let me look into the logistics......

However, the 'golden age' of rock was certainly without any doubt the Rebels and Roxy era.......Rebels was packed most nights, and Roxy's was so crammed you could not breath in its glorious period.

Rock has fragmented and diversified so much since the much narrower genres of the 80's and early 90's, it is going to be difficult to create something that has mass appeal, as each sub-genre in rock these days has only limited fan bases in any one area. Hence a 'new rock' night has to incorporate a lot of sub-genres which may, or may not, have a broad and universal appeal in its designated target market..

sorry,talking like a promoter with a banana up their ****.:hihi:

i can see its money that puts the bon jovi on and not the nightwish yes you have to make money !! but please the odd track is not going to send people screaming to the nelson to hear lez and all the fav classics
at the mow there are so many bands that are good getting no play at all maybe a new rock night once a mouth instead of the dead night club thing lez does that every binking week :huh: HOW ABOUT :thumbsup: THE NEW ROCK SAT NIGHT SORRY IF ITS FROM THE 80s WE DON'T PLAY IT on your flyer's and you can still play iron maiden Saxon motorhead Ozzy Europe slayer judas priest + heaps more
let rebels the roxy R.I.P.
i loved them times as much as you :thumbsup:
but 20 years have got behind you no 1 told you when to run dont miss the starting gun ;) after all this tread is no metal in Sheffield and i did not start it! !!!!!! stand out !! not in line with the rest to get noticed

PS have you all had your pancakes i have :thumbsup:

pancakes? WHat have I missed!!!!! In between live bands down here and taking a quick office break......oh my god its NOT pancake day is it????

A 'NEW ROCK' NIGHT is a cool idea and one I am planning as I write...totally new rock and metal and probably twice monthly, but let me look into the logistics......

However, the 'golden age' of rock was certainly without any doubt the Rebels and Roxy era.......Rebels was packed most nights, and Roxy's was so crammed you could not breath in its glorious period.

Rock has fragmented and diversified so much since the much narrower genres of the 80's and early 90's, it is going to be difficult to create something that has mass appeal, as each sub-genre in rock these days has only limited fan bases in any one area. Hence a 'new rock' night has to incorporate a lot of sub-genres which may, or may not, have a broad and universal appeal in its designated target market..

sorry,talking like a promoter with a banana up their ****.:hihi:

yes F in hard to get it right as its so fragmented ask the punters to help you to get it right as if u played thrash or speed metal all night you will only have 3-4 punters in the pub :hihi:

yep, on Wild, BMG and Roadrunner mailing lists.
However, I'm useless at getting myself organised and sending the reaction sheets back on time, oops :blush: So the amount they send me fluctuates accordingly. Roadrunner kicked me off last year for not replying in time, but have recently added me back.

Why?

I've still got a few reaction sheets from years ago when I used to get stuff for a pirate station in London (RFL). Do you reckon that Geffen will wear it if I send one back saying that it had just been returned to me as undelivered, or will the fact that it's from 1989 be taking the mick too much :hihi:

How do you get on these mailing lists?

Ask them, and tell them/prove you're a DJ basically ..... I had stuff sent to my place so that if the 'studio'* got raided, there'd still be records knocking about, but they always came in one of the DJ's names ........

*otherwise known as 'available flat'.

pancakes? WHat have I missed!!!!! In between live bands down here and taking a quick office break......oh my god its NOT pancake day is it???? yep and you missed it ha ha

I've still got a few reaction sheets from years ago when I used to get stuff for a pirate station in London (RFL). Do you reckon that Geffen will wear it if I send one back saying that it had just been returned to me as undelivered, or will the fact that it's from 1989 be taking the mick too much :hihi:
radio free London :hihi: its you who knows Nigel grant isnt it

radio free London :hihi: its you who knows Nigel grant isnt it

Er, ......... yes ........... but I never built the rigs ;)

[QUOTE=happyhippy;1976205]Er, ......... yes ........... but I never built the rigs ;)[/QUOTE
]paul burns makes rigs so does bern shame there are no rock pirates up here:( bern told me you can make a 10 watt rig the size of a fag packet + a mp3 player that would do most of sheffield ok a lot smaller than a biscuit tin rigs of our day :hihi: hard 4 Eric to find ;) god he must of retired by now!"

How do you get on these mailing lists?

still planning on getting back to you about this...
just waiting for 5 mins to myself to did out their contact details

Hi guys,

I'm a Dutch metal music fan. I moved to Sheffield last month and I am currently trying to get my bearings in the area. I am especially interested in finding places in Sheffield that I can go to A) buy albums and B) visit concerts.

Apart from the obvious (HMV, Virgin) I haven't come across any music shops yet that have a decent metal section, so I hope someone can point me in the right direction. As far as concerts are concerned, I understand that the Corporation puts some decent bands on stage from time to time, but I haven't seen any other venues around yet. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

Hi guys,

I'm a Dutch metal music fan. I moved to Sheffield last month and I am currently trying to get my bearings in the area. I am especially interested in finding places in Sheffield that I can go to A) buy albums and B) visit concerts.

Apart from the obvious (HMV, Virgin) I haven't come across any music shops yet that have a decent metal section, so I hope someone can point me in the right direction. As far as concerts are concerned, I understand that the Corporation puts some decent bands on stage from time to time, but I haven't seen any other venues around yet. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

No and no!

No where else really puts internationally known metal bands on and there is no where else to buy music since Noise Annoys shut down. Selfworth sold a bit, but that has also shut now. Stick to the internet!

No and no!

No where else really puts internationally known metal bands on and there is no where else to buy music since Noise Annoys shut down. Selfworth sold a bit, but that has also shut now. Stick to the internet!

Not strictly true - though Corp is obviously the main rock venue you get the occasional rock & punk band at The Plug (Hayseed Dixie last month, UFO coming up) and the Octagon plus cover bands of just about every major band at the Boardwalk. As regards music - might be worth looking in Record Collector in Broomhill which has a good rock (in its widest sense) section - though to be honest - most physical record shops seem on their way out since everyone started buying off tinternet/downloading .

we've got a metal gig at West Street Live this Wednesday featuring two of Sheffield's finest metal acts Tiennenmen and NCI, amongst other acts

free entry doors at 7pm

Rock music at the Moorfoot Tavern

www.myspace.com/moorfoottavern

All band listings are on this site.

we've got a metal gig at West Street Live this Wednesday featuring two of Sheffield's finest metal acts Tiennenmen and NCI, amongst other acts

free entry doors at 7pm


Aaargh £$&%, reading that one day too late. That's almost around the corner from my house :rant:

Any other metal gigs coming up in the coming months? Or does West St Live have an online concert agenda or somesuch?

*d'ohs*

http://www.rocksoc.union.shef.ac.uk/forum/index.php

We have most local gigs discussed here. We're a friendly bunch too, so if you want people to go to gigs with just come and say hi!

If you like fast death metal, Black Dahlia Murder are playing Corporation on Sunday. Then Sepultura on Monday.

fast death metal, Black Dahlia Murder
BDM are Death Metal now? News to me...

And Sepultura have just sacked Igor Cavalera. Sepultura without Max OR Igor is nothing more than a tribute band IMHO.

BDM are Death Metal now? News to me...

And Sepultura have just sacked Igor Cavalera. Sepultura without Max OR Igor is nothing more than a tribute band IMHO.

Sepultura and Soulfly are both very poor.

BDM describe themselves as death metal. That's good enough for me. I'm not someone who'll stand there any say, "Yeah, but you're not TRUE death metal."

Sepultura and Soulfly are both very poor.

BDM describe themselves as death metal. That's good enough for me. I'm not someone who'll stand there any say, "Yeah, but you're not TRUE death metal."
Haha...but I remember Panic! At The Disco saying 'We're not Emo!!!' too :P

Sepultura used to be brilliant....so sad...

Haha...but I remember Panic! At The Disco saying 'We're not Emo!!!' too :P

Sepultura used to be brilliant....so sad...

Sepultura with Max - good.
Sepultura without Sepultura - bad.
Max without Sepultura - bad.

Depending what sorta metal your into I was going to organise a heavy metal night in sheffield.. Ie Death Black Metal not NU or anything if I can get enough people to attend then I will put it on.. but going from the Nelson crap night Its not worth it.

:S

BDM are Death Metal now? News to me...

And Sepultura have just sacked Igor Cavalera. Sepultura without Max OR Igor is nothing more than a tribute band IMHO.

I'll agree with that. I dug out "Schizophrenia" the other day for the first time in years ......... forgot how much I liked it when I was a kid!

Sad thing about the metal scene in sheffield is people are quite happy to listen to ac/dc, led zep, iron maiden, metallica(enter sandman) etc. Once you start playing stuff which i consider good metal (death, early in flames, at the gates, anthrax, venom, mayhem, napalm death etc etc) you get a lot of people slagging you off. face it sheffields metal scene is so close minded and stangnant.


I feel your pain my friend :D

It's not that its stagnant, its just very difficult for deejays to get the right format of customers these days;) cant specialise anymore at weekends cos you just cant enough pure metalheads to fill the place up and you'd end up with the same ole problem, look at the dissension already on here *albeit goodnaturedly*.Trouble is we just cant stop the classic/punk/goth/new/alt/death rockers from drinking together :o

Would be nice though to have a screaming up yer knickers rock night with no first year student asking for Bob Dylan or stairway just as you've got everyone pounding the dancefloor :rolleyes:

*If you turn the music up and mouth swear words while smiling they wander off happily thinking you're going to play their request, later you can swear you played it and they must have been in the bog or talking....see? so much nicer than knocking them unconscious......;)

Erm, if you want Death Metal then come along to Stormblast, every Thursday night at the Nelson (Furnival Gate, top of the Moor).

Death/Black/Doom/Thrash. No Metallica or Power Metal.

Depending what sorta metal your into I was going to organise a heavy metal night in sheffield.. Ie Death Black Metal not NU or anything if I can get enough people to attend then I will put it on.. but going from the Nelson crap night Its not worth it.

:S
When did you go? Note that the Uni RockSoc are the ones who fill Stormblast up (and they're on holiday...)
Stormblast is awesome but there's no market for anything bigger IMHO. I'd love to get Stocky to DJ upstairs at Corp again and have Emperor, Aborted, Carcass etc. played there on a Saturday but it ain't gonna happen.

im all in favour of bringing rebbels back the place where your feet stuck to the floor with all the spilt beer but still a fantastic night p.s email m.manson web page and tell them sheffield rocks and if we're big enough for gnr's iron maiden & metalica then we're big enough for him

im all in favour of bringing rebbels back the place where your feet stuck to the floor with all the spilt beer but still a fantastic night p.s email m.manson web page and tell them sheffield rocks and if we're big enough for gnr's iron maiden & metalica then we're big enough for himthis will be happening - cant promise your feet wil stick to the floor though :hihi:

DOVE AND RAINBOW, behind the Bankers Draft, down the little alley off High Street with PIZZA HUT at the High St end.....

Its the place with that ugly barman ;):P

Its the place with that ugly barman ;):P
The most dynamic, attractive and efficient bar team in town is what you mean:) No sulking down here, just smiles and welcomes for all.....

Ive been a few times ... When it started and about 5 times after... I havnt been recently probably about 3 months ago..

I only seem to hear **** been played, mainstream underground and people who think they know about extreme metal but havnt got a clue.

Ive been a few times ... When it started and about 5 times after... I havnt been recently probably about 3 months ago..

I only seem to hear **** been played, mainstream underground and people who think they know about extreme metal but havnt got a clue.

Its the place with that ugly barman ;):P
And you know that you dont mean that :hihi:

Ive been a few times ... When it started and about 5 times after... I havnt been recently probably about 3 months ago..

I only seem to hear **** been played, mainstream underground and people who think they know about extreme metal but havnt got a clue.
Are you talking to me?

And you know that you dont mean that :hihi:

I think you know i don't mean that!

nope i wasnt talking with anybody in mind :x hehe

Just not my kinda extreme metal :P