I thought the difference was the fat content or something as brown is seen as better for you... but checking the side it was no difference to the white bread I have.. so what's the point? im no health freak but i'm hoping to make as many changes as i can to help me out when i attempt to lose every ounce of fat on me. :hihi:

i perefer white sliced

oh errrrrrm i dont examine every micron sorry

I can't see there being much difference between brown and white bread only what you put on or in the bread that you need to worry about when counting them calories. ;)

oh errrrrrm i dont examine every micron sorry
you would if you had a stomach growing so fast you fear if you fall over you may never be able to get up again

i perefer white sliced

oh errrrrrm i dont examine every micron sorry

me too you cant make a good chip buttie with brown .

ive actually got something in common with you mel

Isn't brown bread just made with coloured flour and no better for you than white? As I understand it, healthy bread is normally labelled 'wholemeal' or 'granary'.

white ,brown, is this another racist thread

Actually, I think that white bread contains flower which has been bleached. Bleaching makes it taste blander but also removes things like roughage, so too much white bread can block your guts up.

As long as you don't eat a loaf a day I am sure it isn't all that important.

Proper bread is made with wholemeal flour, - ie flour that's had nowt taken out. A lot of people seem not to like it but the dieticians etc. suggest it's healthier than ordinary bread.

white ,brown, is this another racist thread

...or racist bread even ? The PC brigade seem not to have realised the potential of the distinction yet :hihi:

White bread is a load of carbohydrate and hardly any fiber. A white bagel (made with refined flour) has virtually no goodness in whatsoever. Fiber can offset carbs if you are carb counting and if your not it’s still good for you. I’m sure it comes down to volume but it’s weird that a loaf made with processed flour is cheaper than one that’s not.

Check out wholewheat pasta too, some people don’t like it but I don’t mind it at all.

And yes, cheap packet brown bread is white flour dyed brown.

Actually, I think that white bread contains flower which has been bleached. Bleaching makes it taste blander but also removes things like roughage, so too much white bread can block your guts up.

As long as you don't eat a loaf a day I am sure it isn't all that important.
i do have about 9 slices a day... which i guess is a fair bit

white ,brown, is this another racist thread

same could be said for drinks i always make sure i drink a white russian and a black russian so i'm politically correct :thumbsup:

me too you cant make a good chip buttie with brown .

ive actually got something in common with you mel

oh noooooo :P

well you see im not as pc as some people think
im not veggie for health reasons, i prefer the unhealthy option, it tastes nicer :)

same could be said for drinks i always make sure i drink a white russian and a black russian so i'm politically correct :thumbsup:

i like my coffee black, like my men, ooh errrrrrrrrrm

*swiftly moves on*

Back to white bread now, brown bread dosen't seem to taste as good as it use to.

Stoneground Wholemeal bread is the best for you.
can be a bit dy some times though.
:)

whats that ,that looks like the bottom of a birdcage full of seeds & stuff ,i bit into some of that & thought i had bit a pebble

whats that ,that looks like the bottom of a birdcage full of seeds & stuff ,i bit into some of that & thought i had bit a pebble
wheetgerm?

Stoneground Wholemeal bread is the best for you.
can be a bit dy some times though.
:)

True.

Stoneground is definately the healthiest.

White bread is mostly made of refined flour which is pretty useless to your digestive system.

Let your bread be white and your sauce be brown.

There is nothing healthy about bread. It will fill you up, turn to sugar, but it is not healthy

If you eat nothing but breads will you become healthy, ill or no change?
If you eat nothing but fruit will you become healthy, ill or no change?
If you eat nothing but meat will you become healthy, ill or no change?
If you eat nothing but dairy will you become healthy, ill, or no change?
If you eat nothing but fish will you become healthy, ill, or no change?
If you eat nothing but vegetables will you become healthy, ill, or no change?

Healthy eating is simple. Eat plenty of fresh vegetables, a bit of fruit, a bit of good quality meat (once a week), a good piece of fish (once a week)...what the heck...throw some nuts and seeds in the mix too. Very simple, very straight forward everyone knows this....ask your GP, ask anyone with a tiny tiny ounce of common sense. do not ask, women's magazines, the press, food manufacturers, the milk marketing board etc etc

Healthy eating is simple. Eat plenty of fresh vegetables, a bit of fruit, a bit of good quality meat (once a week), a good piece of fish (once a week)...what the heck...throw some nuts and seeds in the mix too. Very simple, very straight forward everyone knows this....ask your GP, ask anyone with a tiny tiny ounce of common sense. do not ask, women's magazines, the press, food manufacturers, the milk marketing board etc etc
yeah its simple to know what is right, not simple to tell your stomach or tastebuds what to like, ive often thought about just trying to train my body to accept food that makes me chuck up til i get used to it haha.. tuna is my main enemy that i wish to defeat.

and out of what you put there.. i dont think i like much of.. cept i dont mind an apple and maybe a bit of cod. And its not just a matter of being picky.. its a matter of throwing up!

Whatever you're planning see your GP :)

There is nothing healthy about bread. Please ignore anyone who says it is healthy. With regard to weight, fat will not make people fat. It is unhealthy to consume a lot of fat, but it does not necessarily cause weight gain. Carbohydrate however, does. Feel free to PM me if you want.

:thumbsup:

What about trying some of that "Best of Both" which is now knocking about.

Its not white or brown, but a beige colour with a bit of wholemeal checked in!

I love BrannBergen. The stuff with the nuts and seeds in it. Toasted with lurpak and jam on!!!

Jim:thumbsup:

wholemeal then brown bread i eat white but not too bothered about it only buy it because my partner and my kids prefer it

i do have about 9 slices a day... which i guess is a fair bit

That's about 900 calories a day just on bread. Watch the stuff!

Anyway, unless it's wholegrain it's white for me as brown gives me indigestion. I am in fact slightly intolerant to the stuff as I realised this year after a lifetime spent addicted to toast! Mmmm....toast....

That's about 900 calories a day just on bread. Watch the stuff!

Anyway, unless it's wholegrain it's white for me as brown gives me indigestion. I am in fact slightly intolerant to the stuff as I realised this year after a lifetime spent addicted to toast! Mmmm....toast....
yeah well i am a toast addict.. used to have 4 slices 3 times a day :| really really loved it... im not so bad now..but still have it far too much and as i dont stuff my face much im thinkin that bread might be one of my biggest downfalls 'fatty wise'

I love granary breads :thumbsup: In fact I could just nail a slice of toasted granary with butter and marmalade right now :rolleyes:

There is nothing healthy about bread. It will fill you up, turn to sugar, but it is not healthy
On what grounds do you make this claim?

I believe that white bread is more quickly coverted to sugars than granary or wholemeal, and gives the appetite a speedier sense of being satiated. This leads to bigger peaks and troughs in your blood sugar levels which can in certain people lead to higher risk of some types of diabetes. I believe this applies to pasta and rice too. We stopped eating bread during the week over a year ago and feel much better for it, have lost weight too.

Hi Plekhanov

I make the claim because it is true. Eating bread does not give you health. It can supplement a diet if you are in need of carbohydrate, but I know from experience and from seeing the results that a carbohydrate free diet, high in fruit and vegetables, supplemented by (not dominated by) a little meat and fish, results in a very healthly, happy human. There are also those that believe that eating products with yeast in can lead to high levels of candida in the bloodstream which, in turn, can lead to yeast infections. Thank you for questioning me - my findings/beliefs are from extensive reading, from what I have learned from specialists in the field, medical professionals etc, but you can find out plenty for yourself.

I hope this helps :)

Carb free people don't get fat. People who go carb free, and eat good quality meat and fish (about once a week at the most), tend to be a lot healthier and happier. It's common sense really though. Plenty of fresh vegetables, fresh meat, fresh fruit etc, but people have to do what's right for them and your current state of health. Sudden detoxing, for example, can be harmful

Hi Plekhanov

I make the claim because it is true. Eating bread does not give you health. It can supplement a diet if you are in need of carbohydrate, but I know from experience and from seeing the results that a carbohydrate free diet, high in fruit and vegetables, supplemented by (not dominated by) a little meat and fish, results in a very healthly, happy human. There are also those that believe that eating products with yeast in can lead to high levels of candida in the bloodstream which, in turn, can lead to yeast infections. Thank you for questioning me - my findings/beliefs are from extensive reading, from what I have learned from specialists in the field, medical professionals etc, but you can find out plenty for yourself.

I hope this helps :)
So in other words 'because you say so' :rolleyes:

You'll have to do rather better than that if you want to convince anybody that 'there is nothing healthy about' the staple food for much of the world for millennia. A food currently enjoyed by millions of healthy people and that most nutritionists recommend (http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/healthy_living/nutrition/basics_carbos.shtml) makes up a significant portion of peoples diet.

Not really, and it depends on the individual. If someone has no fibre in their diet whatsover, then a couple of slices of bread might be just what they need. You can find out for yourself. Just because I believe it to be true and believe my sources, doesn't make it so. Tomorrow's news headline could be on ground breaking news that high bread consumption prevents cancer.

Not really,
Yes precisely, until you actually substantiate any of your (rather large) claims your argument amounts to nothing more than 'because I say so'.

and it depends on the individual. If someone has no fibre in their diet whatsover, then a couple of slices of bread might be just what they need. You can find out for yourself. Just because I believe it to be true and believe my sources, doesn't make it so.
And what are your sources? The British Dietetic Association (http://www.bda.uk.com/Downloads/July05factsheet.pdf) and British Nutrition Foundation (http://www.nutrition.org.uk/upload/bread%20and%20cereals.pdf) both recommend that people eat plenty of bread why should we believe you and your 'sources' instead of them?

Tomorrow's news headline could be on ground breaking news that high bread consumption prevents cancer.
There is already abundant research which suggests that eating wholegrains including wholegrain breads has all manner of health benefits such as reducing the risk of heart disease and cancer in the digestive system.

You shouldn't believe my sources. You should believe what you believe.

You shouldn't believe my sources. You should believe what you believe.
People can't believe your sources because you won't tell anybody what they are and have presented zero evidence to back up your claims that 'there is nothing healthy about bread'.

In contrast I have linked to several reputable sources which all testify that there is a great deal 'healthy about bread' made with wholegrains. As such it would seem sensible for people to hold the opinion that wholegrain bread is healthy and adapt their diets accordingly.

Carb free people don't get fat. People who go carb free, and eat good quality meat and fish (about once a week at the most), tend to be a lot healthier and happier. It's common sense really though. Plenty of fresh vegetables, fresh meat, fresh fruit etc, but people have to do what's right for them and your current state of health. Sudden detoxing, for example, can be harmful

But carb free people have chronic constipation and the stinkiest breath imaginable, something like someone's done a poo in their mouth! :gag:

I thought the difference was the fat content or something as brown is seen as better for you... but checking the side it was no difference to the white bread I have.. so what's the point? im no health freak but i'm hoping to make as many changes as i can to help me out when i attempt to lose every ounce of fat on me. :hihi:
The advantages of brown or more precisely bread made with wholegrains are nothing to do with fat content.

In general the more a food is processed the more of it's 'goodness' is lost, white flour is more heavily processed than wholemeal with a great deal of 'goodness' (in this case primarily roughage which you need to keep your digestive system healthy) being lost in the whitening process.

Switching from white to wholemeal bread is unlikely to help you lose weight but amongst other benefits it should lower your risk of developing several cancers and heart disease.

But carb free people have chronic constipation and the stinkiest breath imaginable, something like someone's done a poo in their mouth! :gag:
In my experience they also have very little energy and get tired very quickly if trying to do a physically demanding activity.

:) Some experience that on the Atkins diet. I think it's the high meat consumption that causes it

The energy thing can be an issue. I know people who are totally carb free, but do triathalons etc but others who get sluggish. Diabetics need carbs for their blood sugar, and I've heard body builders eat a lot of potatoes to bulk up before a competition.

On bread, this is on the BBC website - it will be interesting to see if any further studies will be made.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6067908.stm

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/healthnews.php?newsid=54801

You know Piquant linking to two different stories about the exact same isolated study (which as the stories point out has it's limitations) doesn't make it any more true and as the researchers themselves said further study is needed on this matter and in the mean time the bulk of the evidence clearly indicates that wholegrain foodstuffs including bread are good for you.

I just found that and thought it was interesting. The second link is just more of the detail.