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Mini_Cooper
24-12-2006, 00:30
Got a client who is interested in Martial Arts, but which one?

He is a complete arse, and is unfit but us willing to give any style a go.

So come on you local clubs, where are you.

Please don't debate attacks by polar bears, suicide bombers etc...

DaFoot
24-12-2006, 11:04
He is a complete arse
You'll be inundated with club info!

DaFoot
24-12-2006, 11:07
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=167743
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=82963
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=140239
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=136291
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=148457

That should keep you/your client busy for a bit ;)

cagn4y
25-12-2006, 08:00
personally i'd go for something that's well rounded, such as JKD, and features bits of everything that way you could stay with what you're doing or add your preferred element. For fitness, in my experience it would ahve to be Judo...

chefkicker
25-12-2006, 08:01
Merry Christmas everyone.

Mini cooper:

AFK do kickboxing classes at 3 different venues:

1. Wellington street boxing gym in town.
2. Broomgrove road (eccelsall road area)
3. Goodwin centre ( S10)

www.sheffieldkickboxingclub.com

Mini_Cooper
25-12-2006, 10:50
I have someone I don't like (a client who is a pain)

Shall I tell him to take up Mixed Martial ARts ???

sleepingcat
03-01-2007, 23:00
Mini Cooper,

I think you client should learn either Tai Chi or Wing Chun. Read the thread about Tai Chi which is now at the top of this forum for information. I would recommend Sifu William Lai's Wing Chun class at the Sheffield Chinese Community Centre. I understand that he has a class on Saturday at 6pm to 7.30pm. Please visit his site www.wingchun.me.uk for details.

Sleepingcat

cagn4y
03-01-2007, 23:21
hmmm, wing chun guys haven't had much success in MMA events - is that because the ethos isn't really geared towards MMA; some of the moves would be illegal; or it's simply not effective when compared to other martial arts? or any other reason? i've heard of a guy from the midlands who does wing chun and is/was a bodyguard, and another guy who mixes it with bjj, but boxing or some form of kick/thai boxing seems to be the preferred art for striking these days - any thoughts?

chefkicker
04-01-2007, 08:20
I would say do BJJ /Wrestling/Judo for the ground and Kickboxing for stand up striking skills.

We operate an MMA friendly striking system.

www.sheffieldkickboxingclub.com

cagn4y
04-01-2007, 19:06
yeah, for mma it would be boxing/thai/kickboxing, wrestling or judo + bjj...maybe somewhat different for self-defence - depends what you're looking for, but i'm not sure where wing chun would fit in (no offence!). maybe for ther 'art' or something a little less energetic.

i once saw a dvd with a wing chun guy stood on one leg while someone attempted to push him over - very impressive, but the guy pushing was static - not running across an octagon or a street...i'm sure there must be more to wing chun than maintaining some kind of base, but it's not really proved itself in the modern arena unless anyone knows differently?

Davemantis
05-01-2007, 12:42
Why would t want to ???

it’s a self defense system
I know a lot of door people and that use wing chun very effectively.
Int more on how that art is trained some places look at the chi sau a little to much and forget about the practicality.
Mind that is the same with other arts.

Kung fu people just tend to see the forms and say its S###
Karate some people look at the points fighting a little to much
Freestyle look at the pulling to much
Tai Chi look at only the soft to much
Kickboxing look at the stood up to much
Judo look at the ground to much
TKD look at the kicks to much

And so on and so on
Its not the art it’s the way you apply it and train that makes it work for you.

if i forgot any style sorry but they are all as bad as each other at times ;-)

chefkicker
05-01-2007, 16:28
Hey Dave,
You want to debate which style is best,....
then go to this website:

http://www.sheffieldkickboxingclub.com/forum/forum.php

There are topics for all martial arts there.

DaFoot
05-01-2007, 16:39
Hey Dave,
You want to debate which style is best,....
then go to this website:

http://www.sheffieldkickboxingclub.com/forum/forum.php

There are topics for all martial arts there.
A forum on a kickboxing website...completly nuetral then? ;) :thumbsup:

Crayfish
05-01-2007, 16:53
Why would t want to ???

it’s a self defense system
I know a lot of door people and that use wing chun very effectively.
Int more on how that art is trained some places look at the chi sau a little to much and forget about the practicality.
Mind that is the same with other arts.

Kung fu people just tend to see the forms and say its S###
Karate some people look at the points fighting a little to much
Freestyle look at the pulling to much
Tai Chi look at only the soft to much
Kickboxing look at the stood up to much
Judo look at the ground to much
TKD look at the kicks to much

And so on and so on
Its not the art it’s the way you apply it and train that makes it work for you.

if i forgot any style sorry but they are all as bad as each other at times ;-)

But more to the point, which one would be best if you were attacked by a suicide-bombing polar bear?

slimsid2000
05-01-2007, 17:01
Got a client who is interested in Martial Arts, but which one?

He is a complete arse, and is unfit but us willing to give any style a go.

So come on you local clubs, where are you.

Please don't debate attacks by polar bears, suicide bombers etc...

I'd recomend Origami.

Now that reminds me, what about these bloody polar bear attacks that keep happening in Sheffield. i say send 'em back to the arctic circle where they come from......

chefkicker
05-01-2007, 17:06
A forum on a kickboxing website...completly nuetral then? ;) :thumbsup:

I hope that wasnt an attempt at sarcasm. :P

If you think your views are correct then whats stopping you from stating your views on our forum wether you do kickboxing or otherwise?

If your views make sense then by all means post them.
AFK members are a very open minded bunch , many of whom have trained extensively in other martial arts before deciding on kickboxing.

Go ahead and post Mr Dafoot!
:thumbsup:

Everyone welcome, such is the atmosphere at AFK!

DaFoot
05-01-2007, 17:11
But more to the point, which one would be best if you were attacked by a suicide-bombing polar bear?
Tae-kwon-dodo

DaFoot
05-01-2007, 17:14
I hope that wasnt an attempt at sarcasm. :P
Just a bit of freindly ribbing :)


If you think your views are correct then whats stopping you from stating your views on our forum wether you do kickboxing or otherwise?
You make it sound like I have already disagreed with someone.

If your views make sense
They do from over here :)

Go ahead and post Mr Dafoot!
:thumbsup:
I've had a quick read already.
I may join in, but I already waste too much time on various forums...:rolleyes:

chefkicker
05-01-2007, 17:19
Come on dont be a spoilsport, be an ambassador for your club and come and post. Its not like im asking you to get yourself or your students onto one of my night shows and last 3 rounds in the ring with a kickboxer :hihi:

No one is going to have a go at you if you talk about karate, i respect karate having done a bit myself.

Come and have a banter.

Mini_Cooper
06-01-2007, 01:15
But more to the point, which one would be best if you were attacked by a suicide-bombing polar bear?



Dam, you got in there first, I wanted to ask a question like that

emptycup
09-01-2007, 14:55
I often read through these posts, and they do seem to be dangerously close to yet another flame war. I have dabbled in Wing Chun for a little while now, and I would not be confident in a fight i don't think. However, I would say this was more to do with my own motivation and training (once a week in a class ain't enough!). However, I opriginally stsrted a long time ago with the UKWCKFA which is run by James Sinclair. If you goto www.ukwingchun.com there are some great streaming videos there to have a look at. They always seemed to keep things practical as much as possible and regularily have guest instructors from other martial arts. If only there was a full time school in Sheffield :(

emptycup
09-01-2007, 15:02
Although, I have just checked that site again and they have some new videos for their 21st anniversary and the demonstrations there look like they are arranged/scripted scenes. However, some of the clips that are below those show some 'real' footage.

Pingpang
10-01-2007, 01:20
Mini Cooper,

I think you client should learn either Tai Chi or Wing Chun. Read the thread about Tai Chi which is now at the top of this forum for information. I would recommend Sifu William Lai's Wing Chun class at the Sheffield Chinese Community Centre. I understand that he has a class on Saturday at 6pm to 7.30pm. Please visit his site www.wingchun.me.uk for details.

Sleepingcat

yeah personally i'd recommend tai chi as taught by Sifu David Barrow, details in other tai chi threads here, but if ur gonna go for wing chun, which wud be a good second choice, Sifu Lai is excellent, top class wing chun, i've been to his class years ago

jay_kd
10-01-2007, 02:18
some one said to try JKD, if that interests you, details can be found on my web site, every one welcome at Sheffield Martial Arts Centre.

LEGENDS
11-01-2007, 22:48
depends, if you are looking for something for fitness try muay thai (thai boxing)

cannot beat it for fitness

Kipple
12-01-2007, 11:33
Well, if you fancy Shodokan Aikido, then we have train in the centre of town, just up from the Devonshire Cat pub. Check out the websites in the signature...

polar bears in cities may be interesting, what with thier habitat melting away, they could chomp through a fair few meals. I guess you would need to always keep a slow runner at close hand to keep between you and the bear...

simms
10-02-2007, 23:01
go on yell.com and search martial arts in sheffield and loads of clubs come up, you can also see what club is closest to you. Although, just because the club is close to you doesn't make it a good one.

KillerBJJ
12-02-2007, 14:22
But more to the point, which one would be best if you were attacked by a suicide-bombing polar bear?

Even more to the point -- which martial art would be best if you were attacked by a full-grown man in a pair of white pyjamas?

KillerBJJ
12-02-2007, 14:23
... Martial Arts, but which one?

I've got a better idea. Found your own club. Develop a new style and name it after yourself. And charge crazy prices.

Starting a new martial arts club is just like starting a new religion. You'll get rich, your followers will willingly battle your enemies followers. And you get the added benefit of keeping fit.

chefkicker
12-02-2007, 14:36
go on yell.com and search martial arts in sheffield and loads of clubs come up, you can also see what club is closest to you. Although, just because the club is close to you doesn't make it a good one.

Likewise, just because a club is listed on yell.com does not guarantee it is a good one.
A hell of a lot of McDojos advertise on yell.com.

McDojos are clubs that charge extortionate amounts for poor quality tuition and give out Belts like samosas at an Eid party :hihi:

simms
12-02-2007, 15:49
McDojos are clubs that charge extortionate amounts for poor quality tuition and give out Belts like samosas at an Eid party :hihi:

Yeh ive heard of a few McDojos in sheffield. When i was looking for a dojo, at first i looked on yell.com and it was useless it didnt help at all.

KillerBJJ
12-02-2007, 16:03
Yeh ive heard of a few McDojos in sheffield...

I wouldn't train at any club where you could choke the instructor out in the first 30 minutes. Admittedly one of them is a small guy, but I pummelled both of the instructors at BJJ 393 my first time there.

p.s. Dojos are extinct.

KillerBJJ
12-02-2007, 16:06
That's the small one with the limp, not the ugly one.

chefkicker
13-02-2007, 00:34
I wouldn't train at any club where you could choke the instructor out in the first 30 minutes. Admittedly one of them is a small guy, but I pummelled both of the instructors at BJJ 393 my first time there.

p.s. Dojos are extinct.


Are you serious?
:confused:
It is not easy to choke out Paul (BJJMAN) or especially not Jon Goldson ( TrueBjj).
I personally dont believe it , no offence. I am not affliated to Gracie Barra but am aware of their standards.

KillerBJJ
13-02-2007, 08:59
Are you serious?
:confused:
I personally dont believe it...

You'd better believe it! I almost broke my collar bone getting the ugly one in a totally naked choke.

barracuda
13-02-2007, 17:46
Just ignore him, he's just one of these so called "keyboard warriors" trying to wind people up

ceej
13-02-2007, 18:37
You'd better believe it! I almost broke my collar bone getting the ugly one in a totally naked choke.


Oh dear

KillerBJJ
13-02-2007, 18:51
You'd better believe it! I almost broke my collar bone getting the ugly one in a totally naked choke.

Oh dear

Good job you edited that post. Hopefully your kung fu is better than your spelling!

chefkicker
13-02-2007, 18:52
Just ignore him, he's just one of these so called "keyboard warriors" trying to wind people up

Ok point taken , yet another Chinny Lynne/Iceman/Caveman :P

Who is the Ugly one? Is that Jon Goldson or BarraGergus :P
On the ground I wouldn't mess with either :help:

Mini_Cooper
13-02-2007, 20:12
Good job you edited that post. Hopefully your kung fu is better than your spelling!



Will you SHUT UP !!!

stop trolling

Thats my job