Has anyone else noticed how good looking people tend to be full of themselves and seem to think that looking good means that they don't have to be nice to other people !?

Of course not all good looking people are like that. There are a lot who come across as being very genuine and nice people.

Just that there does seem to be a trend.

Talking about males and females here.

My theory is that the good looking amongst us can rely on their looks and not their 'people skills' to get on in life ...

Am I way of the mark here !?

What's happened to you?Has some good looking person been nasty to you?! Personally i think that is a big generalisation,plus what is good looking to one person might be downright ugly to the next.I think it must be harder for people whose jobs rely on being good looking or people that are told they are good looking all the time to have good people skills as the attention would go to anyone's head.

it just makes me very confident, not nasty.

i do feel sorry for ugly people, and i see lots of them out there!

i just hope im making their days better for having seen me!

Originally posted by sarah_d
What's happened to you?Has some good looking person been nasty to you?! Personally i think that is a big generalisation,plus what is good looking to one person might be downright ugly to the next.I think it must be harder for people whose jobs rely on being good looking or people that are told they are good looking all the time to have good people skills as the attention would go to anyone's head.

No, noone was nasty to me, it was just something I noticed last night.

There was several (what I would call) good looking people, of both sexes. They did seem a lot more full of themselves (confident/arrogant) than more ordinary looking people, who, on the whole were seemed more approachable and friendly and down to earth.

Originally posted by some_boy
it just makes me very confident, not nasty.

i do feel sorry for ugly people, and i see lots of them out there!

i just hope im making their days better for having seen me!

If that's all true, you have my sympathies someboy!.

;)

Good looking...

It depends on your view. Remember beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Maybe they just weren't nice people anyway regardless of looks or perhaps they were just very cliquey.Being good looking does help to make a person feel more confident though.You must be confident enough in your own looks Jamie to have your photo as your avatar.

I agree with you Jamie. I admit I am not the best looking bloke in the world but am not pig ugly, the good looking ones get looked at twice.
Also to add to your post I believe its what you are wearing.

To some people if you dont wear the in fashion you might as well be pig-ugly.

I have no problem with my confidence and care not to go to these places where you are shunned because you aren't one of the "beautiful people" or dont wear eviso and have a sovereign ring on...

So if you dont get noticed by your good looks or or taste(less) in clothes how do people ever know what you are like.....?
They dont and thats shallow and I dont really want to meet a shallow girl thats interested only in my clothes, my car and what area i live in.

Anyway just thought I would put my 2penneth in

Dolouz

Originally posted by Jamie


My theory is that the good looking amongst us can rely on their looks and not their 'people skills' to get on in life ...



People may be able to get by on looks alone in certain areas of life but sooner or later looks will fade and one day they will realise that other attributes are important too.

Most good looking people I know are lovely people too. There are always those beautiful people who have the social skills of a whelk but there are also those not so blessed in the looks department that I'd not want to spend time with either.

So don't instantly dismiss all the beauties!

I have to agree with Jamie's original posting here and I feel that the good looking ones do tend to be less approachable than the less gifted ones.
I also have noticed that a good looking, especially the stunning looking usually tag a long with an ugly one just to make themselves stand out.
Anyone else noticed that.

Originally posted by sarah_d
Maybe they just weren't nice people anyway regardless of looks or perhaps they were just very cliquey.Being good looking does help to make a person feel more confident though.You must be confident enough in your own looks Jamie to have your photo as your avatar.

It has been know for people to say I look good (not that I always agree ... am just an old git now).

It never made me more confident though. Maybe more vain and concieted and I think it creates a lot more problems than it solves. It can easily make you think that how you look is more important than how you feel and who you are as a person (which I think is a very sorry state of affairs to be in).

Originally posted by Dolouz
Also to add to your post I believe its what you are wearing.

Yeah I think that's true and people do seem to judge you by how you look. I think it has a lot to do with how you present yourself kinda mirrors how you feel about yourself.

It's like sending a message to the world "I present myself well because I feel well" (about life and myself). This is probably a symbiotic (2-way) thingy where if you present yourself well that will have a positive effect on how you feel.

Does that make sense !?

it does, ill be a little more serious this time.

its a lot easier to be taken seriously if you look acceptable. Not stunning, or wearing the latest clothes, but acceptable.

and it is to do with a healthy balance, like most things in life! there are people who are very clever but lack social skills and so fail to do as well as those who may lack all the knowledge but handle themselves better in social situations.

again some good looking people are known to be a little dumb, and i bet at times they would give up their looks to engage in more intelligent arenas (like this one).

as i said earlier, a balance is the best thing i feel.

i dont stand out looks wise, im not extremely overt and my clothes are sensible. im happy

Hmmm...

Ever wondered if perhaps it's those who perceive the "beautiful" people as being beautiful and therefore full of themselves with a whole load of stereotypical expectations that actually are the problem.

I mean if you meet someone and your immediate impression is "Stuck up ****" before you've even spoken to them purely because they look good enough to eat... you're likely to be hyper sensitive to whatever small signals they put out and yet on someone you perceive as ugly or "average" you'd just see it as being confident...

Sort of a chicken and egg thing...

Personally I always take heart from the fact/myth (who knows) that beautiful people are more likely to be admired from afar but rarely approached for dates and constantly having to put up with letching, leering muppets because people expect them to be up themselves...



And in all honesty, beautiful people are just as much people/human as everyone else... You get your nice people and your idiots in equal measure..

I try not to stereotype anyone on first impression, to me its not what they look like or what they are wearing. Its starts with what they are saying.

I give anyone the time of day, ugly, "beautiful", well dressed or not.
But dont come across as someone showing off or pretending to be something you are not because its noticed and I will shrug them off drop dead gorgeous or not.
Something that I have found in modern society is that there are less and less real people. People not wanting to show off or be something they are not.

Anyway that my opinion

Originally posted by Martin_s
Ever wondered if perhaps it's those who perceive the "beautiful" people as being beautiful and therefore full of themselves with a whole load of stereotypical expectations that actually are the problem.

I mean if you meet someone and your immediate impression is "Stuck up ****" before you've even spoken to them purely because they look good enough to eat... you're likely to be hyper sensitive to whatever small signals they put out and yet on someone you perceive as ugly or "average" you'd just see it as being confident...

Sort of a chicken and egg thing...

Yes I agree with you Martin (what you said about the problem is with the person who considers another person beautiful).

I am the first to put my hand up and confess that I am at fault here (to a degree ... probably quite a large degree).

I percieve someone as being 'beautiful' which in turn triggers all kinds of assumptions about what kind of a person they are ... without me really getting to know them.

However !!!

Some of them really are "Stuck up *****" and I am sure this is not just down to a perception thing.

Some very interesting points you make though Martin.

I used to go out with a guy who was absolutely beautiful (yes, I admit that was probably shallow of me :) ) but the trouble was, he knew it, and clearly felt that he was so gorgeous that no further effort was required on his part.

Unfortunately, he had all the personality of a dead fish, and we lasted six weeks before I just couldn't stand the lack of communication any more.

So I think that good looks do tend to create a good first impression and will grant you a certain amount of goodwill, but their positive benefits will be limited if they're not backed up by something more substantial.

Some ugly people are stuck up ****s as well.
I haven't seen anything specifically which says cetain looking people are more stuck up.
Maybe ugly people are too quick to judge.

I don`t class myself as anything but me. People can judge me I have learnt not to bother as long as I am happy with myself.


If you don`t like my personality then fine, but you can`t judge a person on looks.

I hate people who judge on looks or say they are so good looking. I have to ask myself who thinks so.
I always judge on personality and thats it.

You are who you are and looks don`t mean a thing. Yes some may be classed as better looking as others but we all have our own inner beauty and that is what shines through.

My point what i was trying to make was that people should be who they are, be real. It dont matter what you look like, what you wear.

People should be more genuine.

Not stuck up ugly or stuck up beautiful people, but real people.

People that dont depend on status, looks or materialistic possesions for confidence.

As rosie said

You are who you are and looks don`t mean a thing. Yes some may be classed as better looking as others but we all have our own inner beauty and that is what shines through.

I believe that too, just wish more people would

Originally posted by Doltouz
looks don`t mean a thing. Yes some may be classed as better looking as others but we all have our own inner beauty and that is what shines through.

I believe that too, just wish more people would To a degree thats correct but the " Ugliest " of Women are still left on the shelf even if they have the best personality in the world.
Men usually go for looks, not personality and Women are the opposite.
I know at least two blokes who are ashamed of there partners because they are not "lookers" there actually in the bottom bracket but they love them.
Its a shame but its reality that uglier women loose out.

Originally posted by Cycleracer
I know at least two blokes who are ashamed of there partners because they are not "lookers" there actually in the bottom bracket but they love them.

Surely they still find their partners attractive though even if they aren't attractive to others or they wouldn't have gone out with them in the first place.It's sad that they are ashamed of them.

I know at least two blokes who are ashamed of there partners because they are not "lookers" there actually in the bottom bracket but they love them

It can be very hard to look or feel your best when someone who claims to love you is also ashamed of how you look.

What's the 'bottom bracket' ?

The way I'm reading that sentence is that these women aren't attractive but their partners claim to love them therefore said women should be grateful. That's more than a bit scary so I hope I've gotten that wrong.

Now I am definately not what would be classed as 'good looking' by most people. I see myself as fat and very plain. For years I had mad coloured hair, extensions, mohican, the works! Wherever I went, people stared and made comments but I honestly didn't care. If it bothered me I'd hardly walk round like that would I?!!

Now I am more conservative, dark curly hair, fairly normal clothes (in fact, I feel really boring and drab these days).

I've never exactly had to fight men off with sticks (only those who wanted it he he he!!) but I have had my fair share of admirers. I have had 6 serious proposals of marriage, 2 within 2 months once!!

I am told that my outgoing personality attracts people. I am what I am, so surely people must be able to see past my outer being and to the person I really am inside? If it was a competition based purely on looks I'd probably score about 2 out of 10. So I guess I must be doing something right somewhere along the line

Originally posted by Cycleracer
Men usually go for looks, not personality and Women are the opposite.

'Most' Men do go for looks yes. I don't agree with your statement that women are opposite and go for personality! :rolleyes:

For me if you can make me laugh and drink pints your in :P

:thumbsup:

cycleracer

I can`t believe that your friends say they love their partners and yet say they are ashamed of how their partners look.
That`s unacceptable who`s told them they are anything special.

You love someone for who they are not what they look like.
Your friends obviously don`t really love their partners as they would never even think that if they did.

I don`t think I have ever been out with or married to anyone and think they are ugly or on the bottom shelf.
I feel in love with them and fell out of love with them not what they looked like.

Originally posted by Deejay
'Most' Men do go for looks yes. I don't agree with your statement that women are opposite and go for personality! :rolleyes:

For me if you can make me laugh and drink pints your in :P

:thumbsup:

Good for you Deejay!


I admit to being attracted by appearance first - but if a bloke has the personality of a dishmop then the attraction vanishes instantly. I'd much rather be with an ordinary looking man who I could talk to and have a laugh with - so long as he was tall and chunky!
:P

Originally posted by beckb
I'd much rather be with an ordinary looking man who I could talk to and have a laugh with - so long as he was tall and chunky!
:P

:thumbsup:

People lose their looks eventually, personalities last forever :P

growing old is compulsory, growing up is optionial :wink:

I'm going to add a profound footnote...

Personally I can't help but think that people with the whole "look" thing being primary importanto right up the yazoo... well aren't they just after something they wish they could be or seen to be with..

Hell, it's all psychobabbling brook gubbins but at the end of the day we're judging other people on how we expect other people to judge us... we're setting our own boundaries, rules and expectations... So, we live and die by em... Nobody said we can't change em :)

Heck, I've been accused of being a looker, yes, I promptly sent them to spec savers ;) but there at the end of the day it comes down to one thing... humans are a complicated bunch :P

I've not been described as drop dead gorgeous,it's usually cute and pretty,i'm not complaining :D

I'd be more than happy with cute and pretty sarah_d !:(

Originally posted by sarah_d
Surely they still find their partners attractive though even if they aren't attractive to others or they wouldn't have gone out with them in the first place.It's sad that they are ashamed of them. They do love there partners yes, thats were there personalitys shine through but they know therenot the best looking dudes and they tend to avoid showing them off.
I know its not right and think there way out of line but it happens.

Hows your new found Dad .... Pm me Sarah.

Originally posted by beckb
I'd be more than happy with cute and pretty sarah_d !:(

Me too !! *sighs*

Come off it Jamie,you know you are a studmuffin!Stop fishing for compliments!:D

No I didn't mean that ..

I meant I'd like a pretty and cute girl !! ... who wouldn't !?

I like to think that I'm drop dead gorgeous. I mean, a real bobby dazzler. I am sure I am an absolute stunner, sex on legs, rugged, yet beautiful. In fact, I believe that I am the most perfect example of manhood ever created on a Greek god scale.
It’s a shame nobody has ever agreed with me. But I am not over confident or arrogant, I just think I'm fabulous.
So much so if Which Magazine did men I would be the unbeatable bench mark. Forever.
Am I deluded or should I apply for the position of Mr Universe?
Personally, I think the universe is not worthy.

im not the best looking lad in the world..........


but im not far off LOL



nah, at the end of the day, looks count a lot in todays world,

I'm not good looking or beautiful but I am very arrogant and full of myself. So that's your theory up the spout me laddo!! But I am a babe magnet so I don't undersatnd. i was only saying to my acountant the other day after he deposited another 8 million into my off-shore bank account why do I get such nice looking women? Women eh? You cant figure them out!!

I know some good looking people and some ugly sods too. It depends on personality. Some ugly folk think that they are good looking and some good lookers think they are ugly - depends on self-esteem.

Originally posted by miniminch
I'm not good looking or beautiful but I am very arrogant and full of myself. So that's your theory up the spout me laddo!! But I am a babe magnet so I don't undersatnd. i was only saying to my acountant the other day after he deposited another 8 million into my off-shore bank account why do I get such nice looking women? Women eh? You cant figure them out!! Yep, we know that already.

Cant believe how far up their own behinds some of you lot are. If you meet a potential mate they want you to be interested in them and NOT yourself. You know who you are! and this is probably the reason you get so much mirror time to yourself.


Dragon

Originally posted by beckb
I'd be more than happy with cute and pretty sarah_d !:(

:D I read this and Jamie's comment out of context and thought they were both angling for sarah_d :D

heh maybe they were.....

Sex appeal???? Whats all that about then?

In my opinion, sex appeal is defo not reserved just for people with "Model Perfect" looks.

I think someone can be: 'Sexy' > therefore attractive, because
of their confidence and how that shows in their self-image.

...And someone with distinguished looks can be sexy because they're not 100% perfection? -And Just comfortable with themselves?
(Not arrogant, which many people defo are- I agree!)

What does everyone else think?

Angel x

I must admit, I'm not a bad looking bloke for my age. I wouldn't say that I'm super sexy, but I'm not a bad bit of stuff.

Originally posted by genesiscouch
:D I read this and Jamie's comment out of context and thought they were both angling for sarah_d :D

heh maybe they were.....

You make her sound like a fish (angling?).

Sorry ... awful joke (they get worse!).

Well ... I was just saying how I'd like someone who's pretty and cute (and also who I can relax with and just be myself and talk to).

Originally posted by Jamie
You make her sound like a fish (angling?).


I'm definately not a fish! :D
You sound like a really nice guy Jamie and i'm sure it won't take you long to find someone wonderful.

Originally posted by dragonsoup
Cant believe how far up their own behinds some of you lot are. If you meet a potential mate they want you to be interested in them and NOT yourself. You know who you are! and this is probably the reason you get so much mirror time to yourself.


Dragon

Mirrors!
I don't need a mirror! I'm so perfect I know that I look good without needing a mirror.
Besides, mirrors can't cope with my staggering beauty, they simply crack with the pressure of replicating something so heavenly.





....Well, they crack. I assume that's the reason because Im gorge.

Originally posted by sarah_d
I'm definately not a fish! :D
You sound like a really nice guy Jamie and i'm sure it won't take you long to find someone wonderful.

Thanks Sarah !!

That's probably my problem though, being 'nice'. I get the distinct impression it's not a quality girls find attractive in a guy.

Fast giving up hope here (even though people keep telling me I'll find someone soon) ...

I would so dearly love to have more female friends though (and I mean genuine ones). Infact I think I would prefer having good female friends to having a girlfriend. Not that friendships are easy to come by (not real good lasting ones).

I'll be your friend but it will have to be long distance!!

Does mummy still put you in the bath? Are you going to be the next Cliff Richard? If so 'Congratulations'

Dragon

*yawn* ........

Jamie, if you want a beer sometime give me a PM!

I'm not a girlie, though!

Joe

Thanks Sarah and Joe !!

*smiles* ... sent you both PM's.

Jamie

Originally posted by Mr_E
Mirrors!
I don't need a mirror! I'm so perfect I know that I look good without needing a mirror.
Besides, mirrors can't cope with my staggering beauty, they simply crack with the pressure of replicating something so heavenly.





....Well, they crack. I assume that's the reason because Im gorge.

You sound like a hermaphrodite to me, and you're in good company judging by some of the posts on here.

In my experience it is the more.... average... looking women that seem to think alot of themselves and aren't that nice. I have been in relationships with two really beautiful women, and they were both quite shy, and the nicest, kindest people you could care to meet. In contrast, i have had relationships with very average looking women who think they are something special after half an inch of makeup and a mini-skirt. I think you just have to judge people as you find them, and not because of the way they look.

Also, i am very ugly and a complete %*&£.

Originally posted by Killian
You sound like a hermaphrodite to me, and you're in good company judging by some of the posts on here.
What are you on about?Do you mean Narcissus?A hermaphrodite is someone who is half man /half woman.

Never judge a book by its cover!

I know its an old saying but its true... I may not look much from the outside... But i know i have a lot to offer on the inside which is more important to the way someone looks...

A good looking girl can knock a bloke for six... but what about what she has to offer other than a nice body? and looks great on your arm an asking every 5 mins 'does my bum look big in this' clearly not as shes a size 10 :lol:

A big girl could do exactly the same with her bubbly fun personality... but is she given a second chance/glance... Not really cause she wouldnt look as good on your arm as someone slim?... If she asked 'does my bum look big in this' the answer would be a defo yes :lol: (I know mine does :lol: )

What happened to love, affection, caring, understanding, giving, sharing supporting not forgetting 'a good personality'?

Not bitter just the way i see things... people should be given equal opportunities... may they be fat/slim black/white ugly or pretty... everyone is human no matter what their size colour or looks

ps this message is not to offend... :D

Jaimie

I'll be your mate too sausage!

Angel x

Originally posted by Killian
You sound like a hermaphrodite to me, and you're in good company judging by some of the posts on here.

I fail to prevail over the hearts and minds of all! Such pity! What shame!

I might be a fallen angel but, for those limited to coming across (please pardon the pun) genderless obscurities often enough to judge, I would never fail to pleasure but volunteer to disappoint. For a challenge is onerous when expectations are low as very modest standards.

The critic is only as good as it’s finest experience. I hesitate to trust your expertise on this subtle and subjective theme.

Originally posted by sarah_d
What are you on about?Do you mean Narcissus?A hermaphrodite is someone who is half man /half woman.

Well done teacher. So a worm is half man, half woman then? Very strange.

For your information, I was trying to make the point that these people are so in love with themselves they could probably have sex with themselves, hence hermaphrodite. Many thanks for the attempted biology lesson though, but I passed my biology o-level in the 60's when Secondary education exams really meant something.

Originally posted by Mr_E
I fail to prevail over the hearts and minds of all! Such pity! What shame!

I might be a fallen angel but, for those limited to coming across (please pardon the pun) genderless obscurities often enough to judge, I would never fail to pleasure but volunteer to disappoint. For a challenge is onerous when expectations are low as very modest standards.

The critic is only as good as it’s finest experience. I hesitate to trust your expertise on this subtle and subjective theme.

I think you should try giving the opium a miss. You're starting to sound like Lord Byron. Never could understand him either.

Originally posted by Killian
I think you should try giving the opium a miss. You're starting to sound like Lord Byron. Never could understand him either. Killian get it right, what you should have said is 'Give the OPIUM a miss as im starting to SMELL like Lord Bryon or whatever faggot you are on about. Opium is a aftershave.
You should know that as a regular surfer on this and other types of board

Originally posted by dragonsoup
Killian get it right, what you should have said is 'Give the OPIUM a miss as im starting to SMELL like Lord Bryon or whatever faggot you are on about. Opium is a aftershave.
You should know that as a regular surfer on this and other types of board

So drinking aftershave has the same effect as opium? Worth considering if only to save some cash, especially if you buy those cheap copies.