if your from arberthorn what do you think about all the yobs on the shops
all the time and do you think the police are doing much about it ???? :confused: :huh:

I don't think the police do anything about it. I can imagine that it's quite intimidating for some people to go up to the shops at night with all of them hanging around. I'm kinda surprised the shop owner haven't got together to do something about it. Surely having 10-15-20 kids hanging about outside your shop drinking and smoking weed can't be good for business.

I don't think the police do anything about it. I can imagine that it's quite intimidating for some people to go up to the shops at night with all of them hanging around. I'm kinda surprised the shop owner haven't got together to do something about it. Surely having 10-15-20 kids hanging about outside your shop drinking and smoking weed can't be good for business.
sounds like theyre being particularly yobbish

not like kids hanging round EVERY set of shops in the country?
what makes arbourthorne special? apart from its always been known for crime? :D

its not special but thats the place we are talking about if you dont like the topic dont come on it

its not special but thats the place we are talking about if you dont like the topic dont come on it
Im from Ecclesall and we obviously dont get that problem around here, but I do feel for you I really do. Yobs eh? Who`d have em!

its not special but thats the place we are talking about if you dont like the topic dont come on it

for someone who has 'life is short so make it count' as a line. You seem very aggressive towards people in threads.

ash:)

Im from Ecclesall and we obviously dont get that problem around here, but I do feel for you I really do. Yobs eh? Who`d have em!

:hihi: :hihi: no 'yobs around Ecclesall', just wannabees huh?

:hihi: :hihi: no 'yobs around Ecclesall', just wannabees huh?
Er, no. Just no yobs.

Er, no. Just no yobs.

Could we assume people that hang out opposite the dominos, at the other pizza joint, could be the yobs?. cocky lil ****es.

Could we assume people that hang out opposite the dominos, at the other pizza joint, could be the yobs?. cocky lil ****es.
Thats called a bus stop. People usually congregate there to get on said bus.

Thats called a bus stop. People usually congregate there to get on said bus.

No, there is a bus stop outside dominos, I said opposite dominos. At the other pizza joint. There is no bus stop there.

No, there is a bus stop outside dominos, I said opposite dominos. At the other pizza joint. There is no bus stop there.
I read it the first time pal... You are clearly not a Ecclesaller. There is a piece of hubba-bubba that I stuck underneath the seat at the stop about 3 yrs ago thats still there when I passed tonight, so unless Its been knocked down in the last hour. Yer wrong.

I read it the first time pal... You are clearly not a Ecclesaller. There is a piece of hubba-bubba that I stuck underneath the seat at the stop about 3 yrs ago thats still there when I passed tonight, so unless Its been knocked down in the last hour. Yer wrong.

bloody yob

:D

if your from arberthorn what do you think about all the yobs on the shops
all the time and do you think the police are doing much about it ???? :confused: :huh:

i think the police do the best they can ... i would say about 50% of the time the police will stop and see what they are up to - they arent there every night.
thing is they are bored teens ... theres nothing for them to do and nowhere to go, so they hang about shops. When we were kids we would sometimes hang around outside the offy up on wincobank avenue - thing is, if we were seen as intimidating the local coppers would come and cuff your ear and tell you to go home!! we were scared of the police as kids ... something that i think todays youngsters arent...
They are intimidating certainly, but not always up to no good.
I often go round the those shops, and have never had any hassle off them - but to be honest i would rather drive to asda at handsworth than risk it :(

Just a few quick questions, Is the poll asking are the police doing a good job in general? or in dealing with the yobs on the Arbourthorne shops?or dealing with incidents in the whole of Sheffield?

incidents in the whole of Sheffield

incidents in the whole of Sheffield
Cheers will now add to poll!

Youths will inevitably gather around bright lights in shopping precincts, and Northern Avenue shops in Arbourthorne are no different to other parts of the city. There have been similar problems reported elsewhere in Sheffield, and there is an on-going issue in Greenhill - where quite large gangs of youths gather near the shopping area.

Although these youths may, by and large, just be standing around on the street corners, they do appear somewhat intimidating, and, as a local councillor for Arbourthorne I have received several complaints about unacceptable behaviour. There is undoubtedly some youths smoking weed, as I've witnessed it myself. There has also been some minor criminal damage reported, e.g., a litter bin upturned from its base.

I have been working with the Safer Neighbourhood Area team to try and tackle the problems of youth nuisance around the shops in Arbourthorne. We have done this in a number of ways.

Money has been spent on providing more secure access to the rear of some of the shops, and better lighting has also been provided. Last year and this, the Area Panel has provided Christmas lights around the shops, to try and make the area more attractive and welcoming, and to help make local people feel more secure. During the Bonfire Night period, a section 30 order was imposed across Arbourthorne, which allowed the police to disperse gangs of youths.

In the New Year, Sheffield Futures will deploy detached youth workers on certain evenings over a three month period around the Arbourthorne shops in order to engage with the young people, and hopefully divert them into some useful activities. The police have provided £3,000, and the council's Area Panel (which I chair) has provided £1,400 to fund this youth scheme. More money will be provided by the Area Panel - I am currently awaiting a second funding bid by Sheffield Futures.

Inspector Andy Male, who is in charge of the local Safer Neighbourhood Area Team, recently talked to 130 local residents who attended the Area Panel meeting held in Arbourthorne, and reassured everyone present that the police, the council and other agencies are addressing the problem of youth nuisance. New uniformed Community Police Support Officers will have completed their training in the New Year, and some will be deployed around the Arbourthorne shops, including in the evenings - which will give a reassuring visible police presence in the area.

I think I will now vote 'yes' in the poll.

it's not nice is it? i know a few people who live near the shops, one of them has a car and i worry wether she'll have it stolen or broken into cos i know she'd struggle to pay for repairs or whatever...i know she's insured but it's the excess and the inconvenience, hope i'm not tempting fate here...:(

there was an obvious improvement around bonfire night this year - we hardly heard any fireworks on the lead up to the 5th nov, and i think thats down to the police.
we have seen mounted police around arbourthorne recently too - and its very reassuring to a lot of the residents to see this ... lets hope it continues to improve :)

there was an obvious improvement around bonfire night this year - we hardly heard any fireworks on the lead up to the 5th nov, and i think thats down to the police.


Now that is true. It was the queitest oct/nov i can remeber.

Although these youths may, by and large, just be standing around on the street corners, they do appear somewhat intimidating, and, as a local councillor for Arbourthorne I have received several complaints about unacceptable behaviour. There is undoubtedly some youths smoking weed, as I've witnessed it myself. There has also been some minor criminal damage reported, e.g., a litter bin upturned from its base.

So why not get the police more involved. Every time I've been up to the shops at night over the past few months its always the same. I'm pretty sure if there was more of a police presence things would be different. I'd just like to say that i have NEVER seen any police up there at night.


I have been working with the Safer Neighbourhood Area team to try and tackle the problems of youth nuisance around the shops in Arbourthorne. We have done this in a number of ways.

Money has been spent on providing more secure access to the rear of some of the shops, and better lighting has also been provided. Last year and this, the Area Panel has provided Christmas lights around the shops, to try and make the area more attractive and welcoming, and to help make local people feel more secure. During the Bonfire Night period, a section 30 order was imposed across Arbourthorne, which allowed the police to disperse gangs of youths.

The Christmas light do add quite a lot to the area though i doubt its really made local people feel more secure. Is there any reason we can't have the section 30 orders in place all the time??


In the New Year, Sheffield Futures will deploy detached youth workers on certain evenings over a three month period around the Arbourthorne shops in order to engage with the young people, and hopefully divert them into some useful activities. The police have provided £3,000, and the council's Area Panel (which I chair) has provided £1,400 to fund this youth scheme. More money will be provided by the Area Panel - I am currently awaiting a second funding bid by Sheffield Futures.

I seriously hope this works, though i can see most of the youths around here telling you to f*** off. They wont listen to there parents so why should they care what a youth worker has to say.


Inspector Andy Male, who is in charge of the local Safer Neighbourhood Area Team, recently talked to 130 local residents who attended the Area Panel meeting held in Arbourthorne, and reassured everyone present that the police, the council and other agencies are addressing the problem of youth nuisance. New uniformed Community Police Support Officers will have completed their training in the New Year, and some will be deployed around the Arbourthorne shops, including in the evenings - which will give a reassuring visible police presence in the area.

I really look forward to seeing that.


I think I will now vote 'yes' in the poll.

I think your wrong there bro.

mr craig<~~~ 25 years arbourthone resident.

So why not get the police more involved. Every time I've been up to the shops at night over the past few months its always the same. I'm pretty sure if there was more of a police presence things would be different. I'd just like to say that i have NEVER seen any police up there at night.

You must just miss them;)
there are police around, and over the last couple of weeks there have been lots of patrol cars around at night, as well as mounted police during the day.





I seriously hope this works, though i can see most of the youths around here telling you to f*** off. They wont listen to there parents so why should they care what a youth worker has to say.

from what i can gather from the youth workers themselves, they generally have a pretty good response from the kids - they are young people themselves, and quite a few are from the area so know how the kids tick. they get them involved in stuff that gets them off the streets and gives them some ideas on how to get by in life without resorting to crime. of course there will always be a percentage who dont respond ... but you cant save everyone i suppose (quite sad really ... )

I was waiting in the Pizza shop at Northern Avenue a few nights ago, about 8 pmish, and watched a gang of youths, boys and girls, throw glass bottles from outside Londis towards the betting office. Obviously the bottles were smashing and the road and pavement was covered in glass. I was about to phone the police when a police car came along from the Arbourthorne Hotel direction and drove around the shopping centre, past the youths, around the broken glass and off down Northern Avenue. A bottle was even thrown over the police car as it first entered the centre.
Must be waiting for backup was my first thought. About 15 minutes later when my pizza was ready, slow at that shop, and I was leaving ,still no return of the boys in blue.
Yes there is a greater police presence in the area but what's the point if they don't act ?

I was waiting in the Pizza shop at Northern Avenue a few nights ago, about 8 pmish, and watched a gang of youths, boys and girls, throw glass bottles from outside Londis towards the betting office. Obviously the bottles were smashing and the road and pavement was covered in glass. I was about to phone the police when a police car came along from the Arbourthorne Hotel direction and drove around the shopping centre, past the youths, around the broken glass and off down Northern Avenue. A bottle was even thrown over the police car as it first entered the centre.
Must be waiting for backup was my first thought. About 15 minutes later when my pizza was ready, slow at that shop, and I was leaving ,still no return of the boys in blue.
Yes there is a greater police presence in the area but what's the point if they don't act ?

thats very true mate there a wast of time even if you call them it takes days for them to even come out to see you:rant:

Youths will inevitably gather around bright lights in shopping precincts, and Northern Avenue shops in Arbourthorne are no different to other parts of the city. There have been similar problems reported elsewhere in Sheffield, and there is an on-going issue in Greenhill - where quite large gangs of youths gather near the shopping area.

Although these youths may, by and large, just be standing around on the street corners, they do appear somewhat intimidating, and, as a local councillor for Arbourthorne I have received several complaints about unacceptable behaviour. There is undoubtedly some youths smoking weed, as I've witnessed it myself. There has also been some minor criminal damage reported, e.g., a litter bin upturned from its base.

I have been working with the Safer Neighbourhood Area team to try and tackle the problems of youth nuisance around the shops in Arbourthorne. We have done this in a number of ways.

Money has been spent on providing more secure access to the rear of some of the shops, and better lighting has also been provided. Last year and this, the Area Panel has provided Christmas lights around the shops, to try and make the area more attractive and welcoming, and to help make local people feel more secure. During the Bonfire Night period, a section 30 order was imposed across Arbourthorne, which allowed the police to disperse gangs of youths.

In the New Year, Sheffield Futures will deploy detached youth workers on certain evenings over a three month period around the Arbourthorne shops in order to engage with the young people, and hopefully divert them into some useful activities. The police have provided £3,000, and the council's Area Panel (which I chair) has provided £1,400 to fund this youth scheme. More money will be provided by the Area Panel - I am currently awaiting a second funding bid by Sheffield Futures.

Inspector Andy Male, who is in charge of the local Safer Neighbourhood Area Team, recently talked to 130 local residents who attended the Area Panel meeting held in Arbourthorne, and reassured everyone present that the police, the council and other agencies are addressing the problem of youth nuisance. New uniformed Community Police Support Officers will have completed their training in the New Year, and some will be deployed around the Arbourthorne shops, including in the evenings - which will give a reassuring visible police presence in the area.

I think I will now vote 'yes' in the poll.
well the old A section 30 order done nowt mate its a oke and you know it ive gone every night this week for me cans and out side the shop big gangs 20 to 30 plus some nights.

General comment on asb and crime-the police don't arest because the crown prosecution service don't progress cases to court, because courts do not sentence appropriately due to prison overcrowding. Even 10 years ago deterrents were much harsher-we are on a downward spiral as the people that commit acts of crime and asb get away wth it despite all the agencies doing their bst. The buck stops wth the judges, who are influenced by the government and state of play with prison population.

I am off to rob a bank, sell drugs, and drive a stolen car with no tax, no insurance, no licence and no MOT because I can

And another age old thread bites the dust.

Closing.