I dont know why but im not that good at knowing which bus goes where... everyone else seems to know which bus to catch to go to wherever but i just dont seem to know, for some reason... i always have to make sure which number i need to catch if im not going with someone...

Ive checked the first traveller website but that map is too small...so any help?

http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/yorkhumber/southyorkshire/map/overgroundindex.php

This websites have the Overground routes on it is a hard to read its the way they've scanned it trying to find the source to see if that is bigger.

It is not all First services but the ones on the Overground scheme and is set out like a Tube map.

Jubby

found the source but its no bigger sorry

so...what language do you speak?

yea thats way too small...any other maps?

The Transport Executive produce a very good fold-up map showing all the bus routes on a colour coded system. There is also within it an enlargement of the city centre showing location of bus stops.

I think you will have to get one from a "TIC" (Transport Information Centre). There is one at Pond Street bus station and also down below Sheaf Market opposite the Bristol Hotel. Oh, and I think there is one on Cambridge Street down from John Lewis.

Only problem is that First Bus have recently made quite a few changes to bus route so I doubt this map is up to date. Still, they should be able to tell you when a new one is coming out!

Hope that's some help.

Rich

so to get from town to meadowhall what do i have to catch? and do i have to catch it from the sheffield interchange?

I learn them from practice.

I actually travel the bus routes a couple of times till I get to know them well enough to know where to get them from and where to get off at the other end of the journey without having to ring people up on me mobiile and say "help! I'm lost!".

To start your guide to public transport in Sheffield you need to go into the PTE travel shop
Cambridge Street/Exchange Street/ Interchange at Pond Street

Pick up a copy of the Sheffield Bus Map & Guide published by First South Yorkshire ( Latest issue is Summer 2004) is shows all First bus routes for the City and includes the Supertram.

The map issued by the PTE for SY is now out of date and this only showed inter county and rural routes anyway.

From time to time the PTE publish an all operators guide to which service number operates to the areas of Sheffield.

This is what I use to travel around our City:

1) Have a copy of the latest First Sheffield Map
2) Pick up a copy of each Sheffield Overground Bus Times Guide - 15 in total!!
3) Pick up copies of services in my area not covered by Overground
4) Pick up a copy of Supertram guide
5) Pick up the 5 guides to the SY Rail network
6) Purchase a Copy of the Peak District Public Transport Guide published by DCC at 60p( next issue due end of October

The above is the basic travellers pack!

Also be aware that bus services are subject to change late Jan/late Apr/late July and late Oct

Rail services 2 or 3 times a year Jan/May/Oct
use the travelplanner at www.yorkshiretravel.net
and read this forum site for our latest views on this subject!

Originally posted by silverknight
To start your guide to public transport in Sheffield you need to go into the PTE travel shop
Cambridge Street/Exchange Street/ Interchange at Pond Street

Pick up a copy of the Sheffield Bus Map & Guide published by First South Yorkshire ( Latest issue is Summer 2004) is shows all First bus routes for the City and includes the Supertram.

The map issued by the PTE for SY is now out of date and this only showed inter county and rural routes anyway.

From time to time the PTE publish an all operators guide to which service number operates to the areas of Sheffield.

This is what I use to travel around our City:

1) Have a copy of the latest First Sheffield Map
2) Pick up a copy of each Sheffield Overground Bus Times Guide - 15 in total!!
3) Pick up copies of services in my area not covered by Overground
4) Pick up a copy of Supertram guide
5) Pick up the 5 guides to the SY Rail network
6) Purchase a Copy of the Peak District Public Transport Guide published by DCC at 60p( next issue due end of October

The above is the basic travellers pack!

Also be aware that bus services are subject to change late Jan/late Apr/late July and late Oct

Rail services 2 or 3 times a year Jan/May/Oct
use the travelplanner at www.yorkshiretravel.net
and read this forum site for our latest views on this subject!

That is probably a bit OTT.

Pick up First bus map from SYPTE office. Look at bus stop near your house on the spinney thing and it will tell you what routes stop there. Cross reference to map.

Timetables can easily be obtained online:
South Yorkshire buses & trams: www.sypte.co.uk
Derbyshire buses: www.derbysbus.net
Trains: www.nationalrail.co.uk

Originally posted by Warreng
so to get from town to meadowhall what do i have to catch? and do i have to catch it from the sheffield interchange?

I'd get the tram - catch it from any of the tram stops in town, you want a yellow service which will state Meadowhall on the front.

Yes Andy C i know it may be a bit OTT but sometimes a pocket timetable is more handy as you don't always want to go on line. Also you can read the route out to the driver if they get lost!! this has happen two or three times to me when a driver is put on a route they haven't done for a while.

Quote:
Originally posted by Warreng
so to get from town to meadowhall what do i have to catch? and do i have to catch it from the sheffield interchange?

93 (I think to Firth Park) from Arundel Gate.

Originally posted by Warreng
so to get from town to meadowhall what do i have to catch? and do i have to catch it from the sheffield interchange?

Get the tram quicker and more reliable

Originally posted by Shine
Quote:
Originally posted by Warreng
so to get from town to meadowhall what do i have to catch? and do i have to catch it from the sheffield interchange?

93 (I think to Firth Park) from Arundel Gate.

93 doesn't run anymore, it has been replaced by 85 and 86 which go more or less the same route as the 93 did between town and Meadowhall.

The faster bus from town to Meadowhall is X78, every 20 mins from the Interchange.

Finally the fastest journey between the 2 points is the train, which only takes 5-10 minutes. After 9:30am the train fare is £1.50 return. (£2.20 before 9:30).

Originally posted by silverknight
Yes Andy C i know it may be a bit OTT but sometimes a pocket timetable is more handy as you don't always want to go on line. Also you can read the route out to the driver if they get lost!! this has happen two or three times to me when a driver is put on a route they haven't done for a while.

I keep a copy of every pocket timetable that serves where I live - 25/25A, 53, 293 and M17. However to have a leaflet for every route in Sheffield is a bit silly.....

I don't have a copy of every timetable route in Sheffield as the total must be around 90/100. Bring back the area booklet would solve that.
What I was pointing out that to use the present option to make the most of travelling around the Sheffield area that would be the requirement. For example Warrang could be job hunting,Looking for a new area to live etc


If you travel just from your local area to city then of course you will only need a few.

However the new Travel Planner at www.yorkshiretravel.net is much better as you can now put in post codes and street names.

The 97 doesn't go to Hillsborough any more it goes to Ecclesfield but yet the old 97 timetable is on the new timetables posted along the old route.

Also - still waiting for a reply from First concerning bus fares. My lad attends the local college and is often charged 1.10p for a journey I sometimes make but for which I only pay 80p (he has yet to receive his bus pass). I did ask the driver if it was still 80p or had it increased - he said it was still 80p! Until I hear from First
I won't know if we've got it wrong or if there are a few opportunistic drivers.

Do any bus experts know if you buy a day/week/month pass on a First bus, you can use it on a Terrier bus? (or vice versa)

Originally posted by ncrossland
Do any bus experts know if you buy a day/week/month pass on a First bus, you can use it on a Terrier bus? (or vice versa)

Nope, First are seperate, you can buy a dayrider on terrier buses though, or a travelmaster

Originally posted by Alex C.
Nope, First are seperate, you can buy a dayrider on terrier buses though, or a travelmaster

Daft! No wonder people don't use public transport.

I've been using the buses for the first time this week (after moving house) and it is so irritating - if I buy a day ticket for First, but waiting to go home, there is a Terrier going past on the same route, but I can't get it without paying again! So I have to wait longer until the right company's bus comes along.

Why isn't it like the train system, where you can use a ticket regardless of the company operating the service?

Even though I'd like to use public transport, I'll probably end up renting a car park space in town, which will only cost me £11 a month more than getting the bus.

Originally posted by ncrossland
Daft! No wonder people don't use public transport.

I've been using the buses for the first time this week (after moving house) and it is so irritating - if I buy a day ticket for First, but waiting to go home, there is a Terrier going past on the same route, but I can't get it without paying again! So I have to wait longer until the right company's bus comes along.

Why isn't it like the train system, where you can use a ticket regardless of the company operating the service?

Even though I'd like to use public transport, I'll probably end up renting a car park space in town, which will only cost me £11 a month more than getting the bus.

Its not as daft as you think - look at it this way.

To get to london from sheffield on the train, I can either get a ROUTE MML ticket, restricting me to the MML, or a GNER ticket, which I can go via doncaster with - or I can get a (higher priced) ANY PERMITTED route ticket to use both routes.

Same situation with First, Terrier and SYPTE.

How do you get an 'any permitted' bus ticket?

An example of how privatisation only serves the companies making a proift, rather than the public they are meant to be serving.

If you are wanting to travel in the Sheffield district and have full access to any operator bus/train/tram then a Sheffield travelmaster is the ticket you require.The main problem at present is that it has to be purchased at a PTE Travel shop. The card comes in various options:All are in a scratch card format
A Sheffield weekly ticket is £15, monthly£56.25 Quarterly £165 and a Yearly(a book of 12) £560.
PTE Shops at Pond Street,Exchange Street and Cambridge street.

In the next couple of years the plan is to have a card which is similar to a mobile phone top up card and can be used on any service in Yorkshire.The card will require all busses to fitted with new machines.A trail is currently taking place in Bradford.

The Fares on first buses on based on which 'Fare Stages' or zones you travel from/to most are based approx one mile intervals 80p/£1.10/£1.40/£1.70 being the single fares for most services in the City.
a switcha for any first bus/tram £1.80 valid 60 mins from time of purchase.If you broad at a stop before a fare stage which could be just 100yards away you are classed as broading at the last fare stage so could account for the 80p/£1.10 being charged.

At present the Special Offer on First buses OF £2 for a days unlimited travel is good value.Not valid on services into Derbyshire only upto SY county boundary

There are great Bus, Train & Tram maps for South Yorkshire on this site and they are even updated to the April 2009 changes already!

Click here for them - www.maps.sy-transport.co.uk

The travel master (various types) can be used on both stagecoach (which now run terrier) and first they can also be used on the tram and train and any bus on local service in south yorkshire or as directed by ticket

The travel master (various types) can be used on both stagecoach (which now run terrier) and first they can also be used on the tram and train and any bus on local service in south yorkshire or as directed by ticket

What is the cost of this ticket now as this post was started in 2004

Depend on what type. Some are off-peak and only available to people on benefits. These ones are mearly expensive. Then there are the ones that are available to anyone. These ones are extortionate.

So two different price scales then expensive and extortionate.

BTW - PTE staff had a nice pay rise recently so perhaps we should congratulate them on their good fortune.

What is the cost of this ticket now as this post was started in 2004

The last time I bought a Sheffield Travel master for the month I think it was £75.

The last time I bought a Sheffield Travel master for the month I think it was £75.

but was it value for money?

but was it value for money?

well it was cheaper than buying a monthly tram and bus ticket and was cheaper than single fares so for me yes...but still a rip off!

Mr bus driver likes his pay rise though, he does enjoy his pay rise bless him.

There are great Bus, Train & Tram maps for South Yorkshire on this site and they are even updated to the April 2009 changes already!

Click here for them - www.maps.sy-transport.co.uk

That's a very useful site , thanks Michael N.

Current travelmaster prices

http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/Tickets_Passes/ticket_types/travel_south_yorkshire_tickets.html.htm

the best website for travel info is travelsouthyorkshire.net

(and how come those maps are not freely available they are ace)

I dont know why but bus routes dont seem to go in a straight line anymore they go round the houses which in a lot of cases is unneccesary .. since I got my buss pass I have been using buses because I have a lot of spare time and its a good job because of the time it takes going on these strange routes.

I dont know why but bus routes dont seem to go in a straight line anymore they go round the houses which in a lot of cases is unneccesary .. since I got my buss pass I have been using buses because I have a lot of spare time and its a good job because of the time it takes going on these strange routes.

It quite simple, if they go in straight lines they do not cover a very comprehensive area. With the decline in bus use and the rise in car use, companies have to be more creative in finding passengers for their buses. If there was a higher demand, there would be more routes and they would be by nature more simple.

Depend on what type. Some are off-peak and only available to people on benefits. These ones are mearly expensive. Then there are the ones that are available to anyone. These ones are extortionate.

So two different price scales then expensive and extortionate.

BTW - PTE staff had a nice pay rise recently so perhaps we should congratulate them on their good fortune.

I bet you have never had a pay rise!
All pay rises everywhere are paid for by the end user of a product or service.
Why do people think that buses should be any different?

I don't, I go everywhere by car :P

Can't remember the last time I caught the (peasent wagon) bus

That's a very useful site , thanks Michael N.


Not a problem and agreed it is.

Direct link to the Sheffield bus map is - http://www.info.sy-transport.co.uk/maps/sheffield.htm