Hi there,

I've just bought a gas cooker and need it connecting. Does anyone know any corgi registered people to come and connect it and probably check it too. We've tried calling a few but they're all booked up til after xmas? any ideas?

Cheers

try dave 07790522591 or 01142863252 he is corgi reg and will call asap cheap n cheerful too!!:thumbsup:

shouldnt there be what is called a (female) "union" joint on the end of gaspipe in ur kitchen & a flexi pipe wih a (male) union joint on the cooker .... just plug in & twist

Please don't meddle with it as 'wizzard' suggests. How would you know that there was not a gas leak? Theres more to it than just plugging the cooker hose in. Is the cooker new or secondhand. Either way a CORGI gas fitter would also check that it works efficiently and safely - thats what you are paying for :thumbsup:

well...... these "union" joints are i believe corgi approved things , fair enough im no gas fitter myself but ..... there are ways (simple) to test these couplings .... an aerosol is available & u spray the coupling & this would show up etc or a simple way would be to lather the coupling in washing up liquid & look for escaping bubbles ...... if the cooker is new id imagine it unlikely there to be any leak on the appliance ... but if in any doubt , a corgi reg' fitter would be the reccommended way forward

added note:
i have plugged in & out several cookers in my life & never had the slightest problem with union joints

while i don't disagree with your principle 'wizzard' i do disagree with the practice. Personally, i think that it is ludicrous that the gen. public can go to any DIY store and buy anything from a new gas boiler to leak detection fluid :loopy:
Stores cover themselves with a 'use a CORGI installer' sticker.
2 other things to note. Firstly, washing up liquid is known to corrode copper so you may eventually end up with more than a few bubbles. Secondly, new does not necessarily mean safe. A 14yr old girl died from carbon monoxide poisoning from a fire that was found to be a manufacturing fault.
Thats not so say there aren't many competent DIY'ers who think they are able to do this(and i'm not saying you are not competent) - but there are also many competent DIY'ers who think they can, but they can't

added note:
its not a union joint its called a bayonet fitting -there are 4 ways of correctly installing a cooker hose to one plus 4 incorrect ways

Thats not so say there aren't many competent DIY'ers who think they are able to do this(and i'm not saying you are not competent) - but there are also many competent DIY'ers who think they can, but they can't

added note:
its not a union joint its called a bayonet fitting -there are 4 ways of correctly installing a cooker hose to one plus 4 incorrect ways

i agree, fitting a cooker point is easy, connecting a cooker hose is easier still. working out room volume-easy, gas rating-easy, tightness testing-easy, ventilation requirements-easy, checking fsd's ant thermostats-easy, writing out a safety certificate- easy, five years in jail if you get it wrong????

well...... these "union" joints are i believe corgi approved things , fair enough im no gas fitter myself but ..... there are ways (simple) to test these couplings .... an aerosol is available & u spray the coupling & this would show up etc or a simple way would be to lather the coupling in washing up liquid & look for escaping bubbles ...... if the cooker is new id imagine it unlikely there to be any leak on the appliance ... but if in any doubt , a corgi reg' fitter would be the reccommended way forward

added note:
i have plugged in & out several cookers in my life & never had the slightest problem with union jointsu just must have good luck.as washing up liquid doesnt work properly,it as to be diluted,u need a bottle of leak detecion
fluid,which i dont think u can buy in the shops,i work on gas mains for over 16 years,and trust me washing up liquid does leave leaks,one leak could kill everyone in the house for the sake of a few pounds,PLEASE DONT LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLE RING A PROFESSIONAL

IF the bayonet fittings on the back of cookers were not intended for you to fit yourself they would not be there in the first place IMO the bayonet fittings are foolproof stop paying the so called corgi fitters just plug it in and then phone transco tell them you can smell gas they will come within the hour
do a pressure test on the meter and it is free job done cost nil.

And if you have just moved in the whole house will be declared safe no money grabbing corgi fitters involved no cost to you the corgi fitters have been given a licence to print money

u just must have good luck.as washing up liquid doesnt work properly,it as to be diluted,u need a bottle of leak detecion
fluid,which i dont think u can buy in the shops,i work on gas mains for over 16 years,and trust me washing up liquid does leave leaks,one leak could kill everyone in the house for the sake of a few pounds,PLEASE DONT LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLE RING A PROFESSIONAL

unfortunately you can buy the stuff at B&Q, i don't remember it giving you a corgi badge with it tho!

working on gas mains( i presume you mean the network not the domestic installations) i reckon you will understand how volatile gas is. i have seen in person a gas supply go up in flames, very very spectactular but gawd did it scare me! also if it is you digging up the roads in darnall can you hurry up please as its directley on the route to the bank we use for buisness! lol

has anyone directed the op to the ronan piont articles on the web, that is where most if not all of the regulations and certainly corgi was born, go google it and read the devastation one small leak can produce!

IF the bayonet fittings on the back of cookers were not intended for you to fit yourself they would not be there in the first place IMO the bayonet fittings are foolproof stop paying the so called corgi fitters just plug it in and then phone transco tell them you can smell gas they will come within the hour
do a pressure test on the meter and it is free job done cost nil.

And if you have just moved in the whole house will be declared safe no money grabbing corgi fitters involved no cost to you the corgi fitters have been given a licence to print money

he is right, the bayonet fitting is a user fitting, designed so you can move the cooker/dryer/etc to clean behind or move to another location. but what about the appliance itself. does that need a check, what about the yearly check, compulsory for landlords and recomended for housholders. never wrong, what is the smallest room you can install a cooker in?

IF the bayonet fittings on the back of cookers were not intended for you to fit yourself they would not be there in the first place IMO the bayonet fittings are foolproof stop paying the so called corgi fitters just plug it in and then phone transco tell them you can smell gas they will come within the hour
do a pressure test on the meter and it is free job done cost nil.

And if you have just moved in the whole house will be declared safe no money grabbing corgi fitters involved no cost to you the corgi fitters have been given a licence to print money

'neverwrong' here i think you are wrong. Bayonet fittings are not intended to be fitted by the general public. As Gavbriggs states they are intended to be used for intermittent disconnection when you need to move the appliance. Bayonet fittings are also not foolproof - they can leak - all that is holding back 20mb of gas is a small spring and seal.

I've come across many 'neverwrongs' they also go by the alias 'it-weren't-my-fault'.

To suggest that people use Transco in this way is both irresponsible and fraudulent, though i suppose it wouldn't bother you if while you were getting a 'free' check some other house exploded????

here here astirl

no it would not that is what we pay for you corgi robbing bxxxxxxxs

I will stick to my statement if they were not meant for DIY they would not be allowed to sell them stop scaremongering everybody with your pathetic rants about only corgi registered can fit them you know it is not true point me me to a regulation with says only corgi registered can uncouple a bayonet fitting and reconnect a bayonet fitting if you can I will concede to you until then stop trying to profit from peoples ignorance.

"work" in relation to a gas fitting includes any of the following activities carried out by any person, whether an employee or not, that is to say -

(a) installing or re-connecting the fitting;
(b) maintaining, servicing, permanently adjusting, disconnecting, repairing, altering or renewing the fitting or purging it of air or gas;
(c) where the fitting is not readily movable, changing its position; and
(d) removing the fitting;


but the expression does not include the connection or disconnection of a bayonet fitting or other self-sealing connector.


Statutory Instruments 1998 No. 2451 (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1998/98245102.htm#1)

no it would not that is what we pay for you corgi robbing bxxxxxxxs

I will stick to my statement if they were not meant for DIY they would not be allowed to sell them stop scaremongering everybody with your pathetic rants about only corgi registered can fit them you know it is not true point me me to a regulation with says only corgi registered can uncouple a bayonet fitting and reconnect a bayonet fitting if you can I will concede to you until then stop trying to profit from peoples ignorance.

a bayonet fitting is a user fitting, it is the hose to the cooker for which you need a corgi, cookers don't come with attached hoses when new.

no it would not that is what we pay for you corgi robbing bxxxxxxxs

I will stick to my statement if they were not meant for DIY they would not be allowed to sell them stop scaremongering everybody with your pathetic rants about only corgi registered can fit them you know it is not true point me me to a regulation with says only corgi registered can uncouple a bayonet fitting and reconnect a bayonet fitting if you can I will concede to you until then stop trying to profit from peoples ignorance.

Can't you read.... no-one has said that you can't uncouple or re-connect to a bayonet fitting as yes its a 'user fitting'. Go back and read what you originally said which was:
1. you think that its Ok take a bayonet fitting and install it into a gas carcass.
2. you believe that a bayonet fitting is 'foolproof'.
3. however, just to make sure everything is fine call Transco.

I think your last statement contradicts the first two.

And read the initial statement to which the reply was made. 'Bethcasson' wants a new cooker installing. So who do you think should do this.....you???

Can't you read.... no-one has said that you can't uncouple or re-connect to a bayonet fitting as yes its a 'user fitting'. Go back and read what you originally said which was:
1. you think that its Ok take a bayonet fitting and install it into a gas carcass.
2. you believe that a bayonet fitting is 'foolproof'.
3. however, just to make sure everything is fine call Transco.

I think your last statement contradicts the first two.

And read the initial statement to which the reply was made. 'Bethcasson' wants a new cooker installing. So who do you think should do this.....you???
if it is just a bayonet fitting I will do it yes

A gas cooker bayonet fitting is a gas fitting and as such the gas regulations apply - period. If you think that because its possible for anybody to uncouple and recouple it that makes it ok to do so, you are mistaken. The actual intention of the flexible hose is so that the cooker can be carefully moved out so that cleaning can take place without disconnecting the appliance. The bayonet connection allows the hose to swivel on the O ring.The gas regs are there to save lives not line corgi fitters pockets. A cooker is an unflued gas appliance siting, ventilation and correct working of the appliance, operation of the safety devices all need to be checked plus a stability bracket. NEW as well a second hand appliances can leak I've had them all. Plus the correct positioning of the back plate elbow to allow the hose to hang correctly is vital.(far too many registered installers dont do this either ,) Its very rare one out of fifty ? where the backplate dose'nt need moving so pipework is usually involved. A gas fitter would have to pay £300 or so to be assessed as competent to work on or install cookers! As for transco checking your work- if its classed as immediately dangerous and you in your ignorance have fitted it CORGI and the HSE will be after you. Make no mistake illegal and incompetant gas fitters are been jailed. On this occasion you are not never wrong but just plain wrong.

im a very competent person i fitted my sisters cooker via bayonet fittings new hoses etc .on checking it leaked it had some debris in it .never be sure .always have it checked.never use old hoses.how much is a life worth

im a very competent person i fitted my sisters cooker via bayonet fittings new hoses etc .on checking it leaked it had some debris in it .never be sure .always have it checked.never use old hoses.how much is a life worthTheres nothing wrong with using old hoses as long as they are in good condition.

As for competent it depends upon your knowledge/training, what was the working pressure ? Pressure drop between meter and appliance ? how did you test the new cooker for leaks (internally) ? And what sort of stability device did you use ? Do you know what the minimum ventilation requirements are for different sized rooms ?

Unless you can answer all those questions and possibly more the law would not look upon you as being competent, also how would you register the appliances installation which is now a legal requirement and can only be done by CORGI registered engineers ?

Holy crap just realised this is a year old !!!

ok people you know there is the diy of the world and there always going to do it but bare in mind if you don't have a corgi certificate of installation

you got insurance no you not its void if you diy this but you're gonna do it yourself anyway so here is what to do which is a must stay alive rule.

1 Go out and buy a calibrated gas leak tester
2 go out and buy a gas carbon/monoxide tester calibrated and cert
3 go out and buy atomized gas tester which can detect airborne gas particles.
4 get all your ptfe gas tape make sure its gas ptfe
5 get leak testing paste
6 get the correct fittings for there is one for natural gas and lpg make sure its certified for your condition and environment. Very important as if a NG fitting leaks it tends to shut off because of the drop in back pressure. not to mention depending on environment blow back arrestors are needed.

Still wanting or thinking of doing it yourself lol


7 after connecting do all the tests everything. don't risk nothing never say that will do.

if the flame burn very irregular be warned something might be wrong.
Test IT WITH A CALIBRATED AND CERTIFIED TESTER NOT CHEAP TAT.

make sure the mbar pressure of your gas supply is correct and the appliance is to work with that pressure. If its not its transco who need to adjust it as you will be screwed in a world of sht without a paddle if you break the seal and adjust it yourself as that regulator for one don't belong to you and you don't have the right to touch it safety first please.

make sure you test the fumes from the flue of the appliance thats where its exhaust is being kicked out sometimes a new cooker can smell like a gas leak but its just the chemicals used on it but test it with a tester to be 100% sure

all in all the equipment will cost you 10 times what an engineer will charge you and you still don't get a certificate your insurance company gives you so urm guess what its better to get it done by them.

maybe if you do it yourself then get an engineer to check it all over test it etc if you can but either way your risking it.

GOOD LUCK

Oh I forgot if you have a gas flue for the appliance like boiler etc then you need smoke bombs so you can see if the smoke flows up the flue and out if it comes inside then flue is not working or blocked. some appliances are sealed and do not connect inside air with its exhausts fumes but you need to check see if the fumes are going out as fumes can leak out very important death is imminent if you don't. i value my life so i take no chances.

no it would not that is what we pay for you corgi robbing bxxxxxxxs

I will stick to my statement if they were not meant for DIY they would not be allowed to sell them stop scaremongering everybody with your pathetic rants about only corgi registered can fit them you know it is not true point me me to a regulation with says only corgi registered can uncouple a bayonet fitting and reconnect a bayonet fitting if you can I will concede to you until then stop trying to profit from peoples ignorance.

well it is law for places of work i.e. a factory workshop etc and believe it or not in a residential flat where you have others above or bellow or all around you there must be a resposability that the landlord must make sure all appliances are sound safe and condemned if unsafe.

So you can not in anyway tamper or install your own in this environment.

ive never seen any documentation ordering you by law when its your own property just screws you insurance up and leaves you with no leg to stand on in court if something was to happen so guess its not the problem of the gas supplier neither if that happened neither manufacturer guess you voided warranty too. CORGI is just a safety net for you not against you its there to protect you so if it did happen you can sue get a new house etc. because its not your fault.

Please don't meddle with it as 'wizzard' suggests. How would you know that there was not a gas leak? Theres more to it than just plugging the cooker hose in. Is the cooker new or secondhand. Either way a CORGI gas fitter would also check that it works efficiently and safely - thats what you are paying for :thumbsup:

Easily solved, you can get an aerosol that turns green when there is a gas leak from most hardware shops, so that's that problem, just plug in n twist...spray and and pray :hihi:

No need to turn the gas off, it's very much like a hydraulic joint, nothing will escape...

To return to the original topic of the thread (two years later)...

Can anyone:

(a) Recommend someone to fit a gas cooker; and/or
(b) Tell me how much it should cost?

Ta.

Yes I am corgi Reg. pm me.

To return to the original topic of the thread (two years later)...

Can anyone:

(a) Recommend someone to fit a gas cooker; and/or
(b) Tell me how much it should cost?

Ta.

I used this guy (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/member.php?u=20781) he did a grand job and was pretty cheap too!

check there corgi card.... a lot of corgi registered installers cant fit cookers or fires.
they have to have the module on there card. check on the reverse of the card. :)

Hi, I was hoping a corgi registered person might be able to answer a question forme please. We have been given a 4 year old leisure range cooker in very good condition. We are having the elctical ring wired professionally and have had a visit from a corgi registered gas fitter. We need to re route some of the old gas piping to accommodate the double size cooker. He checked the cooker and said there was something missing from the connector, that a hose could not be connected directly without this. The hose was removed and kept by the previous owner for their new cooker and we have been unable to get hold of them to find out if there was a piece attached. The gas man was not very helpful, just saying it was useless with that, but did not offer any solution. Can anyone advise me please on where we may be able to obtain this part, and what it is called so I wont sound like an idiot when making enquiries. Any help would be very much appreciated.
Linda

Previous person probably removed the bayonet fitting (either 1/2" or micropoint)and then capped it off. So your 'gas man' had nothing to connect a hose to.

Or, on the cooker itself it may need a female/male connector

Strange as if he does have the 'tick' on his corgi card to fit cookers, he would carry these as standard.

I'd advise getting another gas installer ;)

very strange :) there is not much you can remove from a cooker that you cant buy to complete the install. as andy says i dont think he knew what he was doing and would also recommend a different engineer. :)

Thank you, I had my doubts myself. What is left on the back of the cooker is a standard looking female connector with screw thread. Is this what you would expect to see? What should the end look like? He did seem very negative. I have not checked his card, but he is employed by BG as an engineer and has been in our house for maintenance and repairs through them in the past.
Linda

if he is employed by bg he cant fit private as bg dont allow there employees to have corgi in there own name so there fore he is working illegally and bg dont cover private work. he is only corgi registered and insured while working for bg . :)

and yes i would expect to see a 1/2 inch female thread on a cooker./

a year old thread and the corgi fitters are ranting trying to drum up business for a job that was completed a year ago are all corgi fitters unable to chack the dates or are you all obssessed with coming out to find non exsiscent gas leaks

A gas cooker bayonet fitting is a gas fitting and as such the gas regulations apply - period. If you think that because its possible for anybody to uncouple and recouple it that makes it ok to do so, you are mistaken. The actual intention of the flexible hose is so that the cooker can be carefully moved out so that cleaning can take place without disconnecting the appliance. The bayonet connection allows the hose to swivel on the O ring.The gas regs are there to save lives not line corgi fitters pockets. A cooker is an unflued gas appliance siting, ventilation and correct working of the appliance, operation of the safety devices all need to be checked plus a stability bracket. NEW as well a second hand appliances can leak I've had them all. Plus the correct positioning of the back plate elbow to allow the hose to hang correctly is vital.(far too many registered installers dont do this either ,) Its very rare one out of fifty ? where the backplate dose'nt need moving so pipework is usually involved. A gas fitter would have to pay £300 or so to be assessed as competent to work on or install cookers! As for transco checking your work- if its classed as immediately dangerous and you in your ignorance have fitted it CORGI and the HSE will be after you. Make no mistake illegal and incompetant gas fitters are been jailed. On this occasion you are not never wrong but just plain wrong.

the thread is year old and more did you check that like you check for leaks if so you missed it

the thread is year old and more did you check that like you check for leaks if so you missed it

A bit like you really --:)

We are responding to "Alby1962" who added to this post on 5th May.

They are responding with very up to date information which is very much appreciated. Thanks guys, your advice has been taken on board. I have now managed to obtain the original hose and connector from the previous owner and it is in great condition. I will certainly have a few questions for the fitter before we proceed, thanks to your informed advice.
Thanks again
Linda

They are responding with very up to date information which is very much appreciated. Thanks guys, your advice has been taken on board. I have now managed to obtain the original hose and connector from the previous owner and it is in great condition. I will certainly have a few questions for the fitter before we proceed, thanks to your informed advice.
Thanks again
Linda

all done without a corgi fitter

well done .. but lets just point out at no time did any one here try to charge you all the people did was advise you and point you in the right direction. fitting a cooker is not hard but the law states the correct procedures are in place.

lets look at the dark side if there was a fire and it was proved the cooker was fitted incorrectly do you really think your house insurance would pay out ?? do you think you would not be dragged in front of a judge for breaches of different laws etc..

if you had employed a corgi engineer to do an install for you, do you think after 4 years in college and thousands in training/vans and tools etc.

why on earth do you think he should work for nothing . ??? or am i missing something here ?

all done without a corgi fitter
but with FREE advise.
if you ask for help, these guys will always be happy to assist. if you ask for someone to come and fit, they'll do that too (i assume).