View Full Version : Is suspending kids from school with certain hairstyle justified?


John
10-09-2004, 19:22
Is suspending or expelling kids from school with certain hairstyle justified?

I.E.

Skinhead, braided, dyed, etc...

Moon Maiden
11-09-2004, 07:43
Personally I think the only reason to suspend is if the hairstyle causes distruption. Like a mohican in red for example. it takes the kids attention away from their studies.

Long ahir shouldn't really be a problem as long as it is neat and tidy, probably tied back. They don't suspend girls for having long hair? Same for braided and skinhead Iw ould have thought?

Moon

miniminch
11-09-2004, 10:31
I think it is a question of time and place. There is plenty of time for weird haircuts later in life. But I believe school should be about socialisation. Children need to be able to follow rules - it is good for then because it makes them feel secure and valued.
Schools are going back to uniforms and strict rules about hairstyles because they have found that it works. The pupils feel a part of something rather than an individual alone in a sea of difference.
I think we are seeing the tail-end of thatcherism in this. Parents who were children of the eighities forcing their sense of indiviualism on their offspring. It is important to foster a sense of community with our children otherwise we will be the architects of their misery.
I have seen children sporting dos that their parents have imposed on them because they thought it would be cool to have a kid with that particular cut. I have seen the pain this can cause. Simillarly, I have seen 13 - 14 yr olds with tatoos obviously sanctioned by their parents.
When I was that age (a few summers ago now) I wanted to do lots of things but my parents always said 'as long as you live in my house you follow my rules.' At the time I thought it was unfair but looking back I am so glad they held me off until i was ready to make my own stamp on the world without looking a complete ****.
I think that is what schools should do. A school kid should follow the rules and if not shoud be excluded. Its not about haircuts in a sense but about giving children the chance to be children and not entertaining this idea that they grow up so quickly!
And it not an issue about whether the hair is neat and tidy. I have seen kids with acceptable hairstyles that are not neat and tidy. That is a separate issue about poverty.

When children are at school they should follow the rules or am I getting old before my time?:(

Rich
11-09-2004, 10:37
No.

I think it's political correctness gone to pot.

Suspended for having the wrong hair-do?! WTF?!

And yes I did read the thread before posting.

Tony
11-09-2004, 12:12
Err... wouldn't it be deemed 'politically correct' to allow a red mohican, not to ban one? :huh:

Or is just 'politically correct' to bash on about 'political correctness'?


Personally, I totally agree with miniminch. :thumbsup: Give the little runts a proper short back n sides until they are 16!

max
11-09-2004, 12:22
I agree with Tony on the bit about it being more in line with Thick as Pigpoo Brigade thinking to ban individuality rather than PC.

As to the hair, let 'em have it how they like, they'll probably have to conform at some point in their lives so let them think they're being rebels while they're young.

Lickszz
11-09-2004, 13:18
It would have been the norm a fair few years ago but times have changed and I don't think it matters that much in schools. However, in a customer facing position it would be deemed unprofessional by some. People still judge on appearances unfortunately.

mimicraze
11-09-2004, 18:38
i think its appauling that people are judged on their haircut, I mean, braids for instance, its culture and completely the norm for a lot of people, think its a bit silly that its got to the point that hair matters.

Jamie
11-09-2004, 18:48
what about banning of religous heargear (scarfs that the muslim babes wear).

micksheff
11-09-2004, 23:20
A pupil once got sent home for haveing UB40 shaved on the back of his head, the teacher said he was racist.

Siān
12-09-2004, 00:35
How the pupils are dressed / present themselves does have a bearing on how much discipline is perceived to exist within a school. Schools are in effect competing with each other now & how pupils are dressed can have a big impact on a school's reputation.

When parents choose which schools to send their children to they are made aware of the school's code of dress - if they accept this & send their child there then I think the school is justified in suspending any child who then breaks these rules.


Judging someone on their haircut is bonkers but a lot of us DO make judgements based on appearances (whether or not we realise it) If perceptions in society changed then it would filter through to schools too. I can't see it working the other way around.

John
12-09-2004, 08:30
Originally posted by mimicraze
i think its appauling that people are judged on their haircut, I mean, braids for instance, its culture and completely the norm for a lot of people, think its a bit silly that its got to the point that hair matters.

IIRC the current excuse for banning kids with braids was that the beads at the end of the hair were dangerous to other children during PE as it was more likely to hit someone in the eyes.

Whether it is a valid one is up to discusion.

Lickszz
12-09-2004, 08:40
Well, If it is a safety issue then I think it's valid.

_mojo_pin
07-10-2004, 04:08
If a kid had a hairstyle that could cause physical injury I'm sure there would be a case for suspending them. I imagine there are teachers around now with hairstyles, colours etc that would have been banned 20 yrs ago. When I was at secondary school in the 80s I had hair down my back and the teachers who were more concerned with teaching you something rather than playing Trinnie + Suzanna would compliment me for being an individual boy and for risking scorn from my peers in the pursuit of non-conformity. Yeah, other kids are distracted by anything different but the novelty soon wears off. Things move on.

Skatiechik
07-10-2004, 09:07
Originally posted by Jamie
what about banning of religous heargear (scarfs that the muslim babes wear).


I think france have the right idea. If we were in their country we would be expected to wear headgear, and follow their way of living. So why shouldn't they follow ours?

depoix
09-10-2004, 20:24
is it a childs individuality that makes him wear his / her clothes / hair, different from the norm.?are you right to shape them into what you want them to look act and talk like? beckam,einstein,the beatles all had individuality that shaped peoples lives.....do we all wear the linen suits and caps of chairman mao now ?or do we admire different cultural styles that are amongst us ?.....as long as a person is prepared to work and be sociable then what the heck.or is it the old " youth is wasted on the young " bit rearing its head from those who time has passed by..........there endeth the lesson

Sidla
10-10-2004, 13:12
Originally posted by Skatiechik
I think france have the right idea. If we were in their country we would be expected to wear headgear, and follow their way of living. So why shouldn't they follow ours?
Who the hell are "they"? Are you trying to tell me that if I went to India I would be forced to convert to Hinduism and eat curry? If I went to Iran I would be forced to wear a turban? If I went to America I would be forced to eat McDonalds every day and chant "God bless America"?

What a load of bunkum.

As for banning hairstyles, if the hairstyle is only adopted in an attempt to be rebellious, then after fair warning I think suspension is justified.

WallBuilder
10-10-2004, 16:33
I think that schools should make it clear from the start what they expect of their pupils whether that be hair style, clothing, jewellery or whatever, in fact I'd have the parents signing a contract that their kids will abide to the set out school principles. Then if a child goes against this contract they should be given a time limit in which to correct the problem, if they don't then they should be made to face up to their disobediance.
When I was at school we had a uniform, shirt,tie, blazer and the like, if we turned up out of uniform we were given a rreplacement article of clothing from a wicker basket kept by the head teacher, bad luck if it was a bit old or scraggy.