Who is the best?
Def Leppard

or

The Arctic Monkeys???

Neither. How about Pulp, or Human League?

pulp noooooooooooooo

the league were a great band for their era

def lepp are a great rock band (sorry beakerzoid i know your not struck with them)

artic monkeys need to get a few more albums out see if the hype is justified

but the best artist from this fine city is Frank White IMHO

Def Leppard,

There ace

pulp noooooooooooooo

the league were a great band for their era

def lepp are a great rock band (sorry beakerzoid i know your not struck with them)

artic monkeys need to get a few more albums out see if the hype is justified

but the best artist from this fine city is Frank White IMHO

Is Frank still going? It must be over 15 years since I saw him.

Who is the best?
Def Leppard

or

The Arctic Monkeys???

Much as I love Pulp and The Longpigs, the Arctic Monkeys are unquestionably the BEST.

StarSparkle

Much as I love Pulp and The Longpigs, the Arctic Monkeys are unquestionably the BEST.

StarSparkle

You

are

on

drugs.

You

are

on

drugs.

No

I

am

not.

I just have excellent taste in music, and know greatness when I see/hear it.

I suggest you clean out your ears. :D

StarSparkle

I believe you should be the one to clean out thy ears.

I'm going to be the one who stops this childish nonsense and stops writing vertically, giving me the moral high ground.

Good day to you madam.

Is Frank still going? It must be over 15 years since I saw him.

still going strong and frankly could urinate from a great height on today's musicians

I believe you should be the one to clean out thy ears.

I'm going to be the one who stops this childish nonsense and stops writing vertically, giving me the moral high ground.

Good day to you madam.

And to you, sir.

StarSparkle

PS Take a look at my reply to your MC5 thread....

And to you, sir.

StarSparkle

PS Take a look at my reply to your MC5 thread....

I have. And now, I've unfortunately replied to you on this thread again, thus recklessly throwing my standing of the moral high ground into disrepute.

Best bands out of Sheffield;

Don Valley and the Rotherhides

Blammo

The Crap Sharks

Jim:thumbsup:

Best band from Sheffield;
COMSAT ANGELS

Apologies for "shouting", but they were a band worth shouting about, easily the best thing to come from our fair City.

Pulp, by a million miles. The Arctic Monkeys are good but don't even come close.

def leppard are a bit old for me personally
i like arctic monkeys, but at the moment i really like the long blondes. i dont know why. but i do.
im sure this phase will be over in a week or two..
x

I have to agree that Pulp are the best. Arctic Monkey's are good but they've got a lot to do before they can classed as a great band. They're barely out of school for starters.

I have to agree that Pulp are the best. Arctic Monkey's are good but they've got a lot to do before they can classed as a great band. They're barely out of school for starters.

I hear what you're saying, but the facts of the matter are that the Arctics have already got more great songs in their repertoire than the vast majority of bands manage to put together in their entire career, and they have the 'IT' factor in spades. And add to that Alex's huge writing talent and appeal and their brilliance live....

I'd say that makes them pretty great already.

StarSparkle

the Arctics have already got more great songs in their repertoire than the vast majority of bands manage to put together in their entire career,

Erm....they've got that song about looking good on the dancefloor and a load of others that sound just like it.
I only like a few of Pulp's songs, but at least they have a bit of variety and imagination.

Erm....they've got that song about looking good on the dancefloor and a load of others that sound just like it.
I only like a few of Pulp's songs, but at least they have a bit of variety and imagination.

Open your ears, Basil - just open your ears. Try listening to the lyrics as well - you might find that an interesting experience.

StarSparkle

Blammo
Jim:thumbsup:

YEAH!

"What's his name..?"


But Velodrome 2000 were obviously the best Sheff band of all time :thumbsup:

Best band at the moment by a gazillion miles is Monkey Swallows The Universe. They will be huge next year. FACT!

YEAH!

"What's his name..?"


But Velodrome 2000 were obviously the best Sheff band of all time :thumbsup:

Best band at the moment by a gazillion miles is Monkey Swallows The Universe. They will be huge next year. FACT!

Excuse me just hijacking this thread a moment....

BlankFrack, following on from another thread earlier today that's now been closed, I'd just like to say that I for one have deffo taken notice of you on SF - I think your user name is BRILLIANT! Nice one! :thumbsup:

StarSparkle

Who is the best?
Def Leppard

or

The Arctic Monkeys???

Cabaret Voltaire.

I hear what you're saying, but the facts of the matter are that the Arctics have already got more great songs in their repertoire than the vast majority of bands manage to put together in their entire career, and they have the 'IT' factor in spades. And add to that Alex's huge writing talent and appeal and their brilliance live....

I'd say that makes them pretty great already.

StarSparkle

They're ok. Certainly better than tripe like Stereophonics, Coldplay, Kasabian, Magic Numbers etc but they're hardly what I would call a great band. I've heard that kind of stuff a million times before and frankly I'm bored of it.

There have been bands that just had the one, blinding album, ie The Sex Pistols. However for me, The Arctic Monkeys' release wasn't even the highlight of the year.

The big test for them will be their second album, to prove the first wasn't a total fluke.

They're ok. Certainly better than tripe like Stereophonics, Coldplay, Kasabian, Magic Numbers etc but they're hardly what I would call a great band. I've heard that kind of stuff a million times before and frankly I'm bored of it.

There have been bands that just had the one, blinding album, ie The Sex Pistols. However for me, The Arctic Monkeys' release wasn't even the highlight of the year.

The big test for them will be their second album, to prove the first wasn't a total fluke.

To be honest, I thought the Arctics album could have been so very much better. A lot of their best songs weren't on it. I've not bothered with the album at all lately - I'm listening to downloaded stuff of theirs all the time now.

The downloads off the Internet are so very much better than the album - much rawer and more exciting. But admittedly that's how I love my music, so not everyone would agree.

You can't judge how great a band the Arctics are unless you've listened to as big a selection of downloaded tracks as you can - and their B sides, which are of very high quality.

If you just listen to the album and singles, you're not giving the band a real chance.

StarSparkle

If you just listen to the album and singles, you're not giving the band a real chance.

Hmmm, my point is that what I've heard from them so far isn't enough for me to be bothered about searching for their other stuff.

Hmmm, my point is that what I've heard from them so far isn't enough for me to be bothered about searching for their other stuff.

You like the Sex Pistols, don't you? I may be wrong, but I seem to think from somewhere you like the Manics? I love both those bands too. Go on - give the Arctics a bit more of a chance...

StarSparkle :)

Excuse me just hijacking this thread a moment....

BlankFrack, following on from another thread earlier today that's now been closed, I'd just like to say that I for one have deffo taken notice of you on SF - I think your user name is BRILLIANT! Nice one! :thumbsup:

StarSparkle

Aw, shucks! :blush:

BTW - for what it's worth, I think the Arctics are a cracking little band. I find the amount of adulation they got a little bewildering and I don't think for a moment that it will stay at that level for much longer (the vagaries of the music biz would never allow it) but I think that when the fuss and hype dies down they have enough musical and lyrical talent to keep them going for a good long time.

I agree with StarSparkle (not just cos you said nice things about me!) that the original demos were waaaaaayyyyyyy better than the versions on the LP but ain't that always the way.

You like the Sex Pistols, don't you? I may be wrong, but I seem to think from somewhere you like the Manics? I love both those bands too. Go on - give the Arctics a bit more of a chance...

StarSparkle :)

I love The Holy Bible, and one or two other Manics albums. They've really gone off the boil since Everything Must Go though. I weep.

I love The Holy Bible, and one or two other Manics albums. They've really gone off the boil since Everything Must Go though. I weep.

I weep also :cry:

That's why I talk about the 'Manics' as referring to everything pre-"Everything Must Go". "EMG" onwards I regard as the 'Manic Street Preachers', simply because they were no longer the same band without Richey, and they SHOULD have changed their name at that point to reflect how different they would be from that point on.

I went to see them live once after Richey had gone, and swore I would never go to see them again - brilliant as they were, they were simply no longer the same band I'd adored in the early 90s. Much as I love Nicky Wire - and I do - Richey was the heart and soul of the Manics.

I think we're in agreement on this, Agent Gypo?

StarSparkle

Sorry sparkle- I too think the Artic Monkeys are horse sheeet. I really despise them to be honest. They remind me of george formby - without the irony! I have to agree with the GYP that holy bible is too good and everything since is wannnnk. I honestly think music is at its lowest ebb for years with wannnkers raving about razorlight who might as well call themselves Junior hot house flowers and have done - dire. Fxxkforever is a good song Ive heard recently tho.:)

Sorry sparkle- I too think the Artic Monkeys are horse sheeet. I really despise them to be honest. They remind me of george formby - without the irony! I have to agree with the GYP that holy bible is too good and everything since is wannnnk. I honestly think music is at its lowest ebb for years with wannnkers raving about razorlight who might as well call themselves Junior hot house flowers and have done - dire. Fxxkforever is a good song Ive heard recently tho.:)

I know your opinion of the Arctics, Mini - you've told me before in no uncertain terms ;) ok, i'll give you that there is a slight touch of the George Formby's in there - but they're great enough to overcome that :)

And I agree with you re the Manics as I mentioned above ^^^ except that personally I can't bring myself to listen to "The Holy Bible". Listening to it is being a witness to a fellow human being's complete and utter emotional pain and breakdown - and I care about that human being very much. It's just too painful to listen to.

Fxxkforever is ok - but the gentleman concerned has written much better songs. I think he's been a bit too distracted lately to do himself justice.... :)

Sparkle :)

Listening to Pulp's 'Peel Sessions' i reiterate my comment - genius. :)

I went to see them live once after Richey had gone, and swore I would never go to see them again - brilliant as they were, they were simply no longer the same band I'd adored in the early 90s. Much as I love Nicky Wire - and I do - Richey was the heart and soul of the Manics.

A name change would have been appropriate, ala Joy Division becoming New Order when Ian Curtis hung himself.

A name change would have been appropriate, ala Joy Division becoming New Order when Ian Curtis hung himself.

That's EXACTLY it.

That's the analogy I always think of as being the most appropriate - although hopefully not TOO appropriate, if you know what I mean.

StarSparkle

The Manics sound tired and bored now. I really wish they'd pack it in.

Unfortunately, it's difficult for fat, rich, balding men to write songs about being a skint, angry young man.

The Manics sound tired and bored now. I really wish they'd pack it in.

Unfortunately, it's difficult for fat, rich, balding men to write songs about being a skint, angry young man.

Ooohh, bitchy :nono: They're not balding.... :hihi:

StarSparkle

def lepp are the best :D

Pulp.
Different Class - it changed my life. Its 11 years on and still sounds as awesome as the first time I listened to it. Still get the same chills and excitement listening to each track...

The Arctics, for what theyre worth, are okay. GREAT local band, way over hyped. Like others before me have said, the real test is their sophomore effort. We'll see if they are the greatest band ever (seriously that NME cover was just laughable)

A bands work - which is all they have - in order to prove its so-called greatness, has to stand the test of time. Ive downloaded a lot of their eps, singles and I have their album and the overall body of work, really hasnt held up. Dont get me wrong there are some great singles (I bet you look.... mainly) but to me I think the Monkeys will be a blip on the radar. A great local band that was just in the right place at the right time

Moloko you fools

Agreed, the manic street preachers ceased to be the band they were when richey disappeared.

So hey, let's villify them, put them in the stocks, burn their subsequent albums and renounce them as fat old sellouts......

or we could just for one tiny second, put ourselves in their shoes. The decision to carry on sans richey was not taken lightly, and from what I have read, it almost didnt happen at all.

The whole point of the EMG album, was the band admitting to themselves, as much as to everyone else, that things were never going to be the same. They didnt lose their inherent talent, please remember richey may have been arguably the best lyricist/poet/polemicist of our generation, but his grasp of the guitar was, and I'm being as gentle as I can, embarrassing. James dean bradfield and Sean Moore have always been the musical force behind the band. Nicky Wire took a huge burden upon his shoulders in carrying on as principal lyricist, and yes, sometimes it hasnt come off, but there have still been many moments of magic.

weep for the loss of richey, dont weep for the loss of something that just became DIFFERENT.

as for the original topic.......

Sheffield bands......

in purely financial terms, Duff leotard have sold a she-he-hed load of albums, as have PULP, and the cheeky brass monkeys arent a million miles behind on debut sales. Instead of trying to make it a competition, why dont we celebrate the fact that our groovy little city has over the years produced some of the finest music that the planet has ever heard.

and if we're going to make it a competition, then The Koenig is the best Sheffield band!! :P

www.myspace.com/thekoenig

www.thekoenig.co.uk

:thumbsup: