OneofThree
09-09-2004, 19:37
While i'm on the do you remember thing. Who remebers the camp at High Green. That's what everone always called it. I think it was originally something to do with the Army. An estate of bungalows on what is now Angram Bank.
The Angram bank road names are the original camp road names.
I moved onto the Angram Bank estate in 1969 when it was brand new, in fact much of the estate wasn't finished.
The 'old High Greeners' referred to Angram Bank as 'the camp'. I was told that it had been a prisoner of war camp holding Italian soldiers. It was a very low security set-up and, I gather the POWs were allowed out at certain times. They were also given work, constructing local roads.
I never visited High Green before Angram Bank was there but presmably after the war the camp fell into disrepair.
It's laughable now but I remember the newly-built estate having a really modern, almost space-age feel! Everything was new and clean, no litter or grafitti. Every house and garden was well kept and the park and recreation areas were pristine!
It seemed the sort of place where families could grow...plenty of open space, even the tower block of flats felt state of the art.
Over the followng decades the usual decay set in...crime. neglect, social breakdown...Some parts of the estate are rough now and the tower block has been a haven for druggies, thugs and the usual menaces for years. The council seemed to give up on Angram Bank years ago.
Having said all that, there are still sections that look and feel pretty good. There are some great people on the estate and I live in hope that one day the area will return to it's former glory!
A lot of the houses have been bought and many people see the potential of the place!
As ever, just a few bad apples cause the problems...
Janet Olsen
10-09-2004, 12:34
I don't remember The Camp but just to change the subject a little, my aunt & uncle used to own the shop in High Green near the top just down from the pub that used to be the White Hart I think it was. The shop was a beautiful house at the back with lovely gardens. I visited the now owners when I was in the UK a few years ago & unfortunately the previous owners had altered the house a lot inside & taken out a fantastic staircase & & big bay window out of one room. Makes you wonder how people can ruin lovely old homes. The surprise I got though was finding out that the place was originally an old mill.
OK so I am rambling, just thought I would share my ramblings with you.
For anyone who is interested my aunt & uncle were Blanche & Bat Cowley. Both now deceased.
Janet Olsen
rosiebear
10-09-2004, 16:32
i also moved onto angram bank when the estate was still unfinished,back in 1968 i was almost 12 at the time and the houses hadnt been built at the top( the estate that is across from green acres) theres a tree in one of the gardens that the council kept from the camp.
i havnt been to visit for a long time but have often wondered what happened to the murphy family,they lived on potters gate,near hurst green.
i would have liked to have met the person who decided where the street names were to be put and in what order as i seemed to remember that potters gate went from the end near hurst green and went across to the doctors surgery.
well i will stop rambling and only add a last note you could have a really good pub crawl before you hit chapeltown.
I can remember The Camp.
One interesting fact - one of the roads on The Camp was Wadsworth Road, it never got transfered. There is no Wadsworth Road on Angram Bank. I think it was near to the present location of Kinsey Road.
There must be some people around in their 40's and 50's who were born on The Camp. Lets here from them.
rosiebear
14-09-2004, 19:38
you are looking at people over 50 as i went to angram bank in 1967ish and i was 12, but yes i have often wondered about the people there before us.
i feel it was the start of the decline of a close neighbourhood, a bit like what is happening to parson cross through the demolition. a lot of the older residents have been shuffled into homes,flats and areas just for senior cit. i feel that there is a sense of loss in some areas.
I think some of them went to live on what was called the New Estate. Bevan Way, Burns Drive, etc.
That estate was new in 1961 so it would tie in with the camp being closed down.
I remember driving round with my dad delivering icecream on the Camp, Mr Whippey's. I later lived on Acre Gate 1975-1982 when I was first married.
Bikertec
28-03-2006, 23:58
I can vaguely remember them building the new estate, I used to sit on top of a large earth hill thing and watch the workers, that would be around 1968. My parents used to live in Peasend a old back to back house at the back of the white hart. Such a long time ago.:(
My Cousin "Billy Timms from Ecclesfield" came back from the war in 1947 married his girlfreind "Peggy from Chapletown"and moved in to the camp..I used to visit them on weekends..I remember the place as lots of small cosy bungalow type houses with smart little gardens with lots of roses growing everywhere..hardly any traffic, and a great place for kids to play...I can remember an enamelled stove in the kitchen with the stovepipe sticking out of the roof....Billy still lives in Chapletown.