Just come across this on council website.

http://sccplugins.sheffield.gov.uk/press/news/release.asp?akey=4023

Biggest change is that they are going to charge for on street parking until 20:30!!! are they trying to drive people to Meadowhall or what?:loopy:

Doesn't bother me.
I drive an LPG vehicle, hence FREE council parking :hihi:

yeah why dont the council just close the city center down.

Just come across this on council website.

http://sccplugins.sheffield.gov.uk/press/news/release.asp?akey=4023

Biggest change is that they are going to charge for on street parking until 20:30!!! are they trying to drive people to Meadowhall or what?:loopy:

They charge in off-street car parks till 20.30 and the central ones seem quite busy in the evenings, so charging doesn't seem to put people off. How many of the city centre shops are open late? I'd guess most people are coming into the city centre at that time for entertainment, not shopping.

This is difficult

Whilst I do not support the councils view on residents parking (see my sig) it is good that they are trying to get us onto the buses.

However as long as a car park costs as little as it does relative to a bus fare for 2 or more people there is no way you will get more people onto public transport when the buses cost a packet and are less convenient

On the other hand jacking up the car park prices, which is what is needed, will as has been said coerce more over to Meadowhall and destroy our city centre even more.

Make Meadowhall pay and display
Thats the answer
Except they never will of course

Deepak

Make Meadowhall pay and display
Thats the answer
Except they never will of course

Deepak

So you want to make people abandon the city centre AND Meadowhall? :loopy: Nutter!.
Why should Meadowhall charge people to park on it's land if it doesn't want to.

The trouble is cost of busses, it's £1.50 to get half way up Burngreave road and that's before the new price increases. People won't bother.

Doesn't bother me.
I drive an LPG vehicle, hence FREE council parking :hihi:

Yep, me too! A superb scheme! I just wish there were more places to park all day - the scheme only lets you park for as long as the maximum time is on the site.

Yep, me too! A superb scheme! I just wish there were more places to park all day - the scheme only lets you park for as long as the maximum time is on the site.

I was thinking about LPG - no concessions in residents parking schemes?

Yep, me too! A superb scheme! I just wish there were more places to park all day - the scheme only lets you park for as long as the maximum time is on the site.

DaBouncer told me about this a while ago but it's only applicable in City Centre area (ie, inside the ring road)

I was thinking about LPG - no concessions in residents parking schemes?

No unfortunately, i'd have loved off/on street parking for free instead of paying UoS (who i blummin work for i might add) to park in their car parks. :mad:

great!

Another genious idea from the idiots sat in the council chamber.

Anyone else think they are trying to drive people away from the city forever!!!

So you want to make people abandon the city centre AND Meadowhall? :loopy: Nutter!.
Why should Meadowhall charge people to park on it's land if it doesn't want to.

The government can force them to. There was talk of this a few months ago (all out of town shopping centres).

The government can force them to. There was talk of this a few months ago (all out of town shopping centres).

I don't think the government can "force" anyone to charge for parking on thier own private property. Could they force you to charge for parking on your drive if someone was visiting you home?

There would've been court cases forever:hihi:

They charge in off-street car parks till 20.30 and the central ones seem quite busy in the evenings, so charging doesn't seem to put people off. How many of the city centre shops are open late? I'd guess most people are coming into the city centre at that time for entertainment, not shopping.

Why should we have to pay for parking in the city center just because other people are willing to?

Fairly frequently people who come to visit will only come in the evenings because they know it's free to park outside our house after 6.30, during the day not only is it impossible to find a free spot but it'll also cost you an arm, and fairly often a leg.

It also hurts trade, whether you're willing to admit it not. I know (having worked at a city center restaurant that is currently in my signature below) that people often used to ring up and ask if there is free parking available before booking a reservation. There's often a mentality that if the parking isn't free, no matter how much they're willing to pay for a meal they won't pay for parking - why hurt business?

Take the area outside boho/Wig&Pen for example, on an evening you wouldn't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of free parking spaces, after 6.30 the only people using them are patrols to the local establishments, or if there's something on at the catherdral... so I'm not sure I follow your logic of people being willing to pay.

On a different note, why should people have to pay except to raise revenue? You posted in the other thread that other (off-street often private) parking charges until 8.30, but the NCP next door to boho closes at 7, are you going t change the parking restrictions outside boho to be free after 7? Or force the NCP to stay open later?

If it was a busy area and the council were trying to discourage people parking in a heavily congested area, that might make sense... but in the case I've outlined above, and indeed outside my own house on the edge of the city center it isn't the case.. so what is the point?

It'd be nice also if the council are updating the signage that says 'free after 6.30' they'll replace the signs that are missing from Gell St that I have reported several times that state you are allowed to park on the single yellow lines after 6.30.

Why should we have to pay for parking in the city center just because other people are willing to?

You don't have to. Park someplace else.

You don't have to. Park someplace else.

You see plenty of threads on here moaning about the state of the city centre, especially with regards to shopping. I can think of quite a few threads along the lines of "Why is shopping in town on a Sunday so crap?", "Why doesn't town have late night Christmas shopping?". It's reasons like these, and attitudes like yours that are the answers to those threads.

I'm all for saving the environment, reducing car use etc etc etc... but charging on a Sunday (which wasn't introduced that long ago in off-street parking... how long before it applies to on-street parking?) is one of the reasons the centre is so tired and dead on a weekend/sunday. Late night shopping? That's crap if they're making it more impossible to park.

Heck there's more available parking spaces, at a cheaper rate in Middlesbrough and Stockton than there are in Sheffield. If I didn't live in the centre, I wouldn't shop there. I'd go to Meadowhall because it's easier to park, and to get to and from the shops - if we ever need to buy bulky items we go elsewhere, because it's a pain getting from S3 to John Lewis to picc stuff up.

Obviously parking isn't the only reason shopping is so crap, but charging is hardly any better is it.

Your "solution" doesn't really offer any solutions does it? Trying to pursuade restaurants to open in the city centre (a la boho) and then destroying any incentives for customers to actually visit the establishment in an already struggling environment is hardly helpful. Park elsewhere? People will, and they'll take their business elsewhere.

You see plenty of threads on here moaning about the state of the city centre, especially with regards to shopping. I can think of quite a few threads along the lines of "Why is shopping in town on a Sunday so crap?", "Why doesn't town have late night Christmas shopping?". It's reasons like these, and attitudes like yours that are the answers to those threads.

I'm all for saving the environment, reducing car use etc etc etc... but charging on a Sunday (which wasn't introduced that long ago in off-street parking... how long before it applies to on-street parking?) is one of the reasons the centre is so tired and dead on a weekend/sunday. Late night shopping? That's crap if they're making it more impossible to park.

Heck there's more available parking spaces, at a cheaper rate in Middlesbrough and Stockton than there are in Sheffield. If I didn't live in the centre, I wouldn't shop there. I'd go to Meadowhall because it's easier to park, and to get to and from the shops - if we ever need to buy bulky items we go elsewhere, because it's a pain getting from S3 to John Lewis to picc stuff up.

Obviously parking isn't the only reason shopping is so crap, but charging is hardly any better is it.

Your "solution" doesn't really offer any solutions does it? Trying to pursuade restaurants to open in the city centre (a la boho) and then destroying any incentives for customers to actually visit the establishment in an already struggling environment is hardly helpful. Park elsewhere? People will, and they'll take their business elsewhere.



Thanks for that; a wonderful precis of why we need to start forcibly rationing car usage. I couldn't have done any better myself.

Thanks for that; a wonderful precis of why we need to start forcibly rationing car usage. I couldn't have done any better myself.

Yup, of course that's the solution to everything. Just ban people from their cars. :rolleyes:

Yup, of course that's the solution to everything. Just ban people from their cars. :rolleyes:

The only reason our 'council' don't go quite this far is because they have started making HUGE amounts of money from motorists. What with this and our obscene council taxes they will almost have enough to fund their own free parking and Christmas raffle.