View Full Version : Perhaps now they may consider banning fireworks


peardrops
03-12-2006, 21:35
Two firefighters killed putting out a fire at a fireworks factory.

How can the government dis-allow you to take a nail file on an aeroplane but you are perfectly within your rights to buy explosives which are guaranteed death and severe injury???

Ban all fireworks

CorpG
03-12-2006, 21:40
Fire at a bread factory! Ban all bread!

peardrops
03-12-2006, 21:41
You can't kill people with bread you fool!

Fireworks are explosives - bombs in making!

cgksheff
03-12-2006, 21:58
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1242796,00.html


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/6204452.stm

Two fire crew members have been killed in a major blaze at a fireworks depot.
At least 12 others have been injured, some seriously, in the fire at the Festival Fireworks factory near Halland, East Sussex.

Emergency services rushed to the scene at The Broyle from 1350 GMT. A 200-metre exclusion zone is in place.

Eye-witnesses reported seeing a huge mushroom cloud of smoke from several miles away and explosions of fireworks which sent debris through the air.

Sussex Police said a 49-year-old fire officer and a 63-year-old member of the fire support staff - a retired officer - had died.

JoeP
03-12-2006, 22:14
Two firefighters killed putting out a fire at a fireworks factory.

How can the government dis-allow you to take a nail file on an aeroplane but you are perfectly within your rights to buy explosives which are guaranteed death and severe injury???

Ban all fireworks

Would you have suggested banning petrol and oil after the fire at the refinery some time ago?

I dislike fireworks intensely - or rather their modern implementations - but this isn't a logical argument for banning them all, I'm afraid.

It certainly seems that some sort of investigation as to how teh place went up is essential, though!

Don_Kiddick
03-12-2006, 22:16
You can't kill people with bread you fool!

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try telling that to a Coeliac :cool:

Bartfarst
03-12-2006, 23:08
Knee-jerk alert - ban everything, in case it's dangerous.

artisan
03-12-2006, 23:20
Knee-jerk alert - ban everything, in case it's dangerous.
In this case justified, not regarding danger, it is just that they are a pain in the arse (as that squaddie will tell you, who stuffed one up his bum).
They are just a modern way of saying 'look how much we are enjoying ourselves'
They should be restricted to one night Bonfire Night, for the few sad proddies who celebrate a Yorkshireman being hung drawn and quartered.
Their use on any other occassion is just an American affectation, and should be shunned by true Englishmen. :thumbsup:

Bartfarst
03-12-2006, 23:25
In this case justified, not regarding danger, it is just that they are a pain in the arse (as that squaddie will tell you, who stuffed one up his bum).
They are just a modern way of saying 'look how much we are enjoying ourselves'
They should be restricted to one night Bonfire Night, for the few sad proddies who celebrate a Yorkshireman being hung drawn and quartered.
Their use on any other occassion is just an American affectation, and should be shunned by true Englishmen. :thumbsup:
I can't really disagree - they should be regulated far more stringently, and that will come soon enough, I'm sure.

JoeP
03-12-2006, 23:29
I can't really disagree - they should be regulated far more stringently, and that will come soon enough, I'm sure.

I'm getting old - they freak me out these days more than they freak out the cats here. :)

I think I draw the line at anything that makes the house shake when it explodes above it. just out of curiosity, does anyone know how much gunpowder or whatever it is goes in to a typical modern firework of the 'big bang' variety?

Bolero
03-12-2006, 23:43
There was a fire the other day at a factory that produces those re-igniting birthday cake candles - the fire brigade were obviously called, again, and again, and again.....

Harry O
04-12-2006, 00:00
You can't kill people with bread you fool!

Fireworks are explosives - bombs in making!

Ever been stabbed with a Pretzel?

Seriously though, modern fireworks are far too potentially lethal to be placed in the hands of the general public. They upset far too many people/pets when they are used and therefore should be subject to restriction.

cgksheff
04-12-2006, 00:00
........ how much gunpowder ........

I think that some of the larger retail rockets may have up to 4 ounces (100g) of black powder.

Bolero
04-12-2006, 00:01
Ever been stabbed with a Pretzel?

I have yeah, for giving the French stick.

Harry O
04-12-2006, 00:21
I have yeah, for giving the French stick.

Shame on ya

camping_gaz
04-12-2006, 00:31
you worry about some poxy little fireworks were theres more worrying chemicals under your sink and the recipes on the internet this ones for a flamethrower
http://mirror.linnwood.org/flamethrower/
ive seen others for home maid bombs rocket launchers you would be surprised

redrobbo
04-12-2006, 00:56
Ever been stabbed with a Pretzel?

Pretzals can be fatal (well, almost!)

"President George Bush choked on a pretzel and fainted onto the floor.
He cut his face and bruised his lip in the fall, but the White House doctor, Richard Tubb, said he was fine now. The accident happened on Sunday when the American leader was munching on a pretzel - a popular savoury snack in the US. He apparently did not swallow his food properly, which slowed down his heart rate and caused him to faint and fall off his sofa.
George Bush was on his own watching American football at the time.
He passed out for a few seconds, then woke up and called for White House medical staff. "

14 January 2002.

So, let's not ban fireworks or..... pretzals! :rolleyes:

camping_gaz
04-12-2006, 01:21
Pretzals can be fatal (well, almost!)

"President George Bush choked on a pretzel and fainted onto the floor.
He cut his face and bruised his lip in the fall, but the White House doctor, Richard Tubb, said he was fine now. The accident happened on Sunday when the American leader was munching on a pretzel - a popular savoury snack in the US. He apparently did not swallow his food properly, which slowed down his heart rate and caused him to faint and fall off his sofa.
George Bush was on his own watching American football at the time.
He passed out for a few seconds, then woke up and called for White House medical staff. "

14 January 2002.

So, let's not ban fireworks or..... pretzals! :rolleyes:
yeah whatever hes p#sshead and he will ave been p#ssed :rolleyes:

simondjuk
04-12-2006, 07:44
Two firefighters killed putting out a fire at a fireworks factory.

How can the government dis-allow you to take a nail file on an aeroplane but you are perfectly within your rights to buy explosives which are guaranteed death and severe injury???

Ban all fireworks


How can you say fireworks are guaranteed to cause death or serious injury. Saying that means that everyone who has set one off should have been killed or injured. Dont think so.

Yes, fireworks are dangerous in the wrong hands, like a lot of stuff, but people who use them correctly shouldnt have a lot to worry about.

21steve
04-12-2006, 07:51
You can't kill people with bread you fool!

Fireworks are explosives - bombs in making!


the 2 major explosions and what caused the biggest problems are reported to have been from gas canisters.

Cyclone
04-12-2006, 08:11
Two firefighters killed putting out a fire at a fireworks factory.

How can the government dis-allow you to take a nail file on an aeroplane but you are perfectly within your rights to buy explosives which are guaranteed death and severe injury???

Ban all fireworks

What a short sighted misinformed post.
If fireworks were banned to the public, firework factories would still exist to provide the professional displays with material.

sccsux
04-12-2006, 09:03
I dislike fireworks intensely - or rather their modern implementations - but this isn't a logical argument for banning them all, I'm afraid.

The older fireworks (pre 1980) were downright dangerous (Jumping Jax).

Been chased by a few Catherine Wheels, too:).

Darbees
04-12-2006, 13:03
What a short sighted misinformed post.
If fireworks were banned to the public, firework factories would still exist to provide the professional displays with material.Yes and that is what this company do/did. Personally I don't know why anyone would want to set off their own fireworks anyway because they are c*** compared with a professional display.

The issue the fire brigade have at this moment is with some acetylene cylinders, which, unlike Calor Gas cylinders, have the potential to explode long after the fire has been extinguished. Ordinarily they would be placed in water or doused with water for many hours before being declared safe. That issue could happen at any industrial fire, not just fireworks.

This is the website of the company concerned. http://www.festivalfireworks.net/

personal5579
05-12-2006, 19:05
To the Firefighters - RIP

To their families - my thoughts and prayers are with you.

snooze
05-12-2006, 19:25
There was a fire the other day at a factory that produces those re-igniting birthday cake candles - the fire brigade were obviously called, again, and again, and again.....
i love a good giggle and that certainly did it for me.
seriously though, i have thought that they should ban sales to the general public, just have organised displays, like they used to have in the good old days (in public parks) i would not mind paying a few £ for that pleasure knowing i was safer than when youths get there silly hands on them.

Joelc
05-12-2006, 21:13
Captain Knee Jerk.

The fire was caused by an electrical fault. Fireworks bring pleasure to many people, and apart from genuine accidents, most people are killed or injured by their own stupidity.

Like hairdryers with "do not use in the shower" tags, if your stupid enough to stick a rocket up your arse you deserve injury.

My respect to the firefighters, at the end of the day, it was a tragic accident, and they are only the 11th firefighters to be killed since 1990 or there abouts, which shows the tremendous skill and training these guys have.

It was a tragic accident, if it had been another oil depot, or a gas storage facility, it would have been the same, unless there was criminal negligence, which will be proved true/false in due course.

Joel

hatemaster
06-12-2006, 07:17
many countries already banned fireworks really...

Mathom
06-12-2006, 18:17
It's made me think twice about the position of the Chinese Fireworks place on London Road! I understand they were heavily fined not so long ago for not storing their fireworks properly or for storing far too many than was safe. I think I shall not linger when passing there! :o

Harry O
10-12-2006, 23:06
you worry about some poxy little fireworks were theres more worrying chemicals under your sink and the recipes on the internet this ones for a flamethrower
http://mirror.linnwood.org/flamethrower/
ive seen others for home maid bombs rocket launchers you would be surprised

OK camping-gaz, I'll fall for your troll, "poxy little fireworks"indeed, I'd like to see you stand right next to one of the ones referred to in this thread when it explodes. They are a far cry from the "Bangers" of my youth and therefore, due to their strength should only be sold to authorised people.
And as for the information available on the Internet for the construction of various weapons, you can find the details for the construction of an Atom bomb, but it doesn't mean that you're actually going to make one, does it? The points made refer to the use of products that are freely available to the general public and shouldn't be. 'nuf said.