After reading the posts on the blond haired woman pestering everyone with the 'lost bus fair' routine, I was wondering if anyone has had to deal with this rather suspicious and worrying person. Several people I know have fallen afoul to his routine, after either bumping into him by accident, or if you happen to be outside the Spar oposite Lloyds, him approaching you and asking you to buy him something.

He's a man probably in his late 20s, early 30s who patrols the Fargate area of town from about 8pm onwards. Looks Jamaican or Trinadadian. He'll come up to you and spin highly creative speil about having no money to get back home (sometimes he says he lives in Chesterfield). Somehow he manages to suceed and before you know it you've got a small bag of what looks to be cannabis, but on closer expection is no more than a few herbs.
However, once he has your money you've no hope in getting it back, and he will even try to coax you into giving him more money.

How would you know unless you have tried to buy these 'drugs' from him?

When I posted this I knew for certain that the very first reply would be along these lines. I myself have not tried to 'buy' anything from this man, but because of one of my friends experiences (recently he lost £15 when he encountered him a couple of weeks back) I now know to avoid him, and have seen him around a couple of times since.

It seems to be more of a case him forcing the drugs upon you because a)Its dark b)You're worried he may have a knife or some other weapon rather than someone approaching him to buy something. Would you go up to a random person in the street and ask them if they had any cannabis for sale?

A few years ago I came out of the leadmill a bit ****** and I was approached by the very fellow. At the time (and I hope you are all aware that I am a reformed character) I entered into a finacial transaction of the nature refered to previous. Well to cut a long story short -I got shafted. But a bought a little bag of what can only be described as mattress stuffing.
And in a way I'm glad because it taught me a valuable lesson. LIFE IS CRUEL!!

I wonder if its high quality matress stuffing

I had dealing with this bloke about for years ago but he insisted on coming home with me on the bus but he didn't have enough money, a drug dealer without a car was suspicious enough but a drug dealer without enough money for bus fare really set alarm bells ringing so i gave him the slip.

About six months later he changed his tactic however and my flatmate fell for his Rosemary trick again outside Leadmill. the really terrible thing is though if you got caught buying herbs off him you thought were going to be weed it is still illegal and the police can prosecute you as if you had actually bought drugs.

I've recently seen him around again but he is looking more healthy then he used to and i think he’s had a hair cut. If you see him

JUST SAY NO!

Originally posted by Disco_Cat

JUST SAY NO!

Shouldn't that be just say oregano?

"Taste and try, before you buy" - Savoy Brown

Well, I would report it to the police. It is illegal to offer drugs, or even something that appears to be drugs but is in fact tightly wrapped groundsel buds (a common favourite).

It would also be illegal to accept but I would be very surprised if, after what you have said, if the police prosecuted your friend for buying...

The guy your talking about is called Steve and he's completely harmless. He often uses the "can I have a light" tactic. If your stupid enough to buy from someone on the street who you don't know then your asking for matress stuffing imo. He is a pest and and he's known to many people in town but the police can't do anything against him as he's not breaking the law. He tryed selling to me a few years ago but since then he just says hello. Best thing to do to get rid of him is to just say your already sorted :thumbsup:

Originally posted by J-Blaze
the police can't do anything against him as he's not breaking the law.

Have they de-criminalised Obtaining Money by Deception now? :confused:

Originally posted by Andy
Have they de-criminalised Obtaining Money by Deception now? :confused:

Unfortunately I don't think the buyer would have a leg to stand on in Court as his/her intention was that of purchasing an illegal substance.

I'm sure the police could do somthing about this character if they wanted to.

The thread about the blonde haired woman had over 6000 views and nearly 200 posts. Half the population of Sheffield have been hassled by her. Yet the police/council do nothing. If they wanted to, they could. They can't be bothered.

The police could do anything they wanted really. However they have better things to do in their time like assisting bus drivers for people playing radio's on bus's than small time street hustlers. :wink:

If approached by a stranger is it not best to just say "NO" very firmly and keep walking. By even stopping to talk to them you are encouraging them. They will find it much harder to get any money out of you if you don't stop when they want you to.

To be fair to this guy he was really nice, we sat and had a chat for about 20 minutes. He's just worked out a scam to deprive some naive students of small proportion of their loan. I don’t think he's ever hurt anyone. And since my flatmate was doing a lot of cooking as part of his degree the herbs didn’t go entirely to waste.

He is a nice chap just don't buy his herbs lol.

Originally posted by J-Blaze
He is a nice chap just don't buy his herbs lol.

Or you could scan a few fivers, change the Queen's head for Bin Laden's and pay him with them. Just a thought.

Originally posted by Xabi
After reading the posts on the blond haired woman pestering everyone with the 'lost bus fair' routine, I was wondering if anyone has had to deal with this rather suspicious and worrying person. Several people I know have fallen afoul to his routine, after either bumping into him by accident, or if you happen to be outside the Spar oposite Lloyds, him approaching you and asking you to buy him something.

He's a man probably in his late 20s, early 30s who patrols the Fargate area of town from about 8pm onwards. Looks Jamaican or Trinadadian. He'll come up to you and spin highly creative speil about having no money to get back home (sometimes he says he lives in Chesterfield). Somehow he manages to suceed and before you know it you've got a small bag of what looks to be cannabis, but on closer expection is no more than a few herbs.
However, once he has your money you've no hope in getting it back, and he will even try to coax you into giving him more money.

does he wear a bandana? if so i know him.......unfortunatley

Originally posted by Xabi
I wonder if its high quality matress stuffing
Good stuff:) ing:D

Walking from Glossop road onto west Street about midnight Friday got approached by this fellow for my second time, was offered the customary weed, laughed and resumed politely wished him a good night.

Few hundred yards later came across to lads examining something with a puzzled expression “enjoying your weed lads?”

They seemed shocked they were so obvious but asked my opinion of the drugs they had just forked out 20 quid for, told them if they’d bought them off who i thought they had their was no point as they had invested in a very diffenet type of herb then they had planned to.

They decided to try their luck at getting their cash back wonder how it worked out for them?

Fools and their money are soon parted.

surely its a test of intellegence.

People who would buy drugs of some dodgy looking random bloke in the street = idiots

Wonder how many freshers he's got in the last couple of weeks!!

judging from the freshers I've seen probably a lot....

He collared us once, but we told him to p*ss off.

I got stopped on Division Street by somebody offering me "charley"on Friday night. He didn't seem to recognise me as living a couple of doors away from him. He was walking back in front of me to West Street asking a few people. I was hoping the police would spot him, but I only saw a couple of bobbies walking past when he had already wandered off!:mad:

Xabi - what does a TrinIdadian look like?

Originally posted by Lianndi
Xabi - what does a TrinIdadian look like?

dwight yorke

This post made me chuckle, yes I've been approached by this guy as well last year! I was absolutely hammered at this time and he said "£15 for this bag mate- Quality stuff."

I took it off him, inspected it and passed him the loose change I had (about £1.17!) and said deal, then I just walked off and he didn't say anything. I gave it to my ex girlfriend, let her suffer haha!

:heyhey:

I think i got approached by this guy last week... I was walking from the "sarnies" shop near the cathedral after getting a nice bacon and sausage sarnie.. crossing the tram tracks towards TG Hughes and some random black guy shouts something like "guy with the sandwich"... then walks upto me and offers me some "top quality skunk"... i just went "no thanks" and walked off...

sorry but if i was ever to buy any drugs, which I dont plan on doing... it wouldn't be from some random person in town... lol

Er Good luck to him. Has he got a knife? Has he hit anyone? Just another loser trying a simple skank on simple people. A sad reflection on something that anyone thinks they can score on the street like this and then moan when they've got nowt. And I'm an anti drugs type.

And some look like Melanie Sykes and some look like Jackie Chan, some look like Halle Berry and some look like you even [even though I have no idea what you look like I am sure that there's a Trinidadian that looks like you!]

I guess what Xabi was trying to say was that it was a black guy. I know that people might think I am making a mountain out of a molehill, however with so few Trinidadians in Sheffield [and as one of the minority] its a bit insulting/disheartening to read the description of the West Indian drug dealer as a Trini.....
:(

I think it is disgracefull how this man is allowed to sell oregano on the streets of Sheffield.

This guy must've asked me if I have a light at least once a month for the last 3 or 4 years, I guess I don't look dodgy/gullible enough as he's never offered me any greenery of any kind...

Always seems to collar me by the train station

Could this be the bloke that flogged a mate of mine half an oxo cube for £10??

Originally posted by J-Blaze
The guy your talking about is called Steve and he's completely harmless. He often uses the "can I have a light" tactic. If your stupid enough to buy from someone on the street who you don't know then your asking for matress stuffing imo. He is a pest and and he's known to many people in town but the police can't do anything against him as he's not breaking the law. He tryed selling to me a few years ago but since then he just says hello. Best thing to do to get rid of him is to just say your already sorted :thumbsup:

From the sound of it I've met this person several times (last time was @ the train station) he asked for a light, if I smoked green, and I said I already had loads. Just left me alone - this has happened with him & others and saying you're sorted is stella advice - used the same to get rid of a bloke in the Penny Black this week.

I've often been tempted to do the same thing down the students' union (I'm a student myself and thus know exactly how gullible the breed are, particularly the stoner muppets). Hang around in the bogs with a few little bags of oregano (so long as you only describe it as "herb" then you're doing nothing wrong and it's not actually deception!) and leave half an hour later a little bit richer :D

If you're stupid enough to buy drugs then you deserve to get ripped off like this.

Originally posted by Lianndi
And some look like Melanie Sykes and some look like Jackie Chan, some look like Halle Berry and some look like you even [even though I have no idea what you look like I am sure that there's a Trinidadian that looks like you!]

I guess what Xabi was trying to say was that it was a black guy. I know that people might think I am making a mountain out of a molehill, however with so few Trinidadians in Sheffield [and as one of the minority] its a bit insulting/disheartening to read the description of the West Indian drug dealer as a Trini.....
:(

Sorry if you felt insulted at all, I know what its like to be in a minority. Maybe I should have used a more general term, just didn't occur to me at the time.

oxo cubes ?, oregano ?, what next ? potatoes and carrots then we will have enough to make a good wholesome stew - so this guy is just a good wholesome organic food merchant ...

:-). Thanks for the explanation and for acknowledging my 'angst'

i think i got asked if i wanted any pills off this guy years ago!

I wish to testify that no violence thing with an incodent outside the leadmill in mid august 2002.

Me and my mate had just finished our re-sits and were extremley drunk (as you are at 2am on a tuesday night near the leadmill). We started the long walk home toward eccy road singing york city songs as entertainment, namingly 'are you scarborough in discuise' next thing we know 'steve' is walking over the road shouting and balling at us (no recolection of what he said mind) and then out of nowhere a clean right hook straight onto my mates chin. It was an absolutley cracking punch, knocked my mate straight to the floor, blood everywhere. He then started pushing me asking me if i wanted some, but i was saved by 2 blokes who know him and called him steve who calmed him down and took him away.

My mate peeled himself off the pavement, wiped the blood off his face and was sick all over me!

Just out of interest did he have a yellow puffa style jacket on? if so, i know who you mean!

You all need to learn to be street wise peeps!

This guy your talkin about theres many more of them out there,
this guy is out for your money because he needs a fix, he's a smack head,[ means addicted to heroin or crack cocaine] these kind of people can play you like a game of chess,they are smart,sometimes they hang out side clubs sellin aspirin- instead of ecstasy, black ashe- for a lump of hard mud, cocaine-for a crushed tablet,they will even try to sell you a camera or somethin when the thing is knackerd, believe you me they will try anything for a fix.

if you catch them in the wrong place at the wrong time keep well away because they can trip out,have hallucinations,paranoia trips

play safe stay safe..peeps

can i just clarify that he has stupidly long ragged hair?

He sold my mate mud instead of weed.

Originally posted by Geordiecarl
I wish to testify that no violence thing with an incodent outside the leadmill in mid august 2002.

Me and my mate had just finished our re-sits and were extremley drunk (as you are at 2am on a tuesday night near the leadmill). We started the long walk home toward eccy road singing york city songs as entertainment, namingly 'are you scarborough in discuise' next thing we know 'steve' is walking over the road shouting and balling at us (no recolection of what he said mind) and then out of nowhere a clean right hook straight onto my mates chin. It was an absolutley cracking punch, knocked my mate straight to the floor, blood everywhere. He then started pushing me asking me if i wanted some, but i was saved by 2 blokes who know him and called him steve who calmed him down and took him away.

My mate peeled himself off the pavement, wiped the blood off his face and was sick all over me!

Being unforunate enough to live in a student area myself, when i hear a story bout 2 irritating students showing a total lack of respect for anyone that has to be up for work in the morning by drunkenly singing at the top of there voices, gettin a good slap,i'm thinkin , next time i see "steve" i'll be buyin the bloke a pint.

Originally posted by 2fat2run
Being unforunate enough to live in a student area myself, when i hear a story bout 2 irritating students showing a total lack of respect for anyone that has to be up for work in the morning by drunkenly singing at the top of there voices, gettin a good slap,i'm thinkin , next time i see "steve" i'll be buyin the bloke a pint.

Now bieng full time worker myself i am in full agreement with you, but i have to say the leadmill has those effects whether your a student or not!

me and my boyfriend got offered weed, charlie or viagra in McDonalds a month or so back??

wtf. family restaurant??


also come across this jamaican guy outside Natwest bank this week. about 1pm ish though. not at night

About 2 years ago I used to call in a McDonalds in Sheffield for a coffee and I watched drug dealers using the car park for trading.

When I mentioned this to someone they said they used it because there was no video camera surveillance and so it was difficult for anyone to catch them.

Happy Days

Originally posted by miniminch
A few years ago I came out of the leadmill a bit ****** and I was approached by the very fellow. At the time (and I hope you are all aware that I am a reformed character) I entered into a finacial transaction of the nature refered to previous. Well to cut a long story short -I got shafted. But a bought a little bag of what can only be described as mattress stuffing.
And in a way I'm glad because it taught me a valuable lesson. LIFE IS CRUEL!!

Bizarrely enough- i feel that i may have crossed paths with same 'said' individual when i was at bottom of stairwell (linking paternoster row with shoreham st). He approached me and my mate as we were walking up towards SB's-and asked for a light on his cigarette. Naturally, being the approachable fella that i am - i acknowledged and actioned his request. We duly parted company!! However, within the space of 30 seconds - the OB rolled up and questioned the purpose of our interaction with rasta-man. The copper told us (assuming that we were both students) that we shouldn't buy MJ off him as it was nothing more than natural garden vegetation. He advised us of somewhere else to buy, yet another kind soul that the SYPF recruited!

All the best

If the man had a way back into a working life i like to think he'd take it - but i bet he doesn't.

I think me and my friends have been approached by this man. Just a no thanks mate is all you need to say. I'd rather be approached by such a harmless person like this everyday than get mugged. Now they are criminals good and proper.

Originally posted by JonnyBoy
If you're stupid enough to buy drugs then you deserve to get ripped off like this.

Here - Here! Well said.
Originally posted by robbie
surely its a test of intellegence.

People who would buy drugs of some dodgy looking random bloke in the street = idiots

Idiots indeed.




By the way, if you want to get a high from a herb, try googling what you can achieve with nutmeg...

By the way, if you want to get a high from a herb, try googling what you can achieve with nutmeg

here have a gander...
http://www.inspiracy.com/minitrue/high.html
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Mirrors/HyperReal-Archive/drugs/natural/FAQ-Nutmeg
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Mirrors/HyperReal-Archive/drugs/natural/nutmeg.info


etc

The short version-

nutmeg contains myristicin, a complex of aromatic oils, which when eaten, are concentrated in the liver, and the resulting metabolites (amines of said oils) resemble the ring subsituted phenethylamines closely enough to produce psychotropic effects.

If you take a hallucinogenic dose of Nutmeg, you should know that it poses greater risks than a similar dose of synthetic MDMA (120mg)
Shulgin (1966) suggests that myristicin and elemicin may not be the active ingredients but they may be metabolized in the body to 3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy amphetamine (MMDA) and elemicine, an ether analogous to myristicin, 3,4,5-trimethoxy amphetamine (TMA)

Just because it is a 'natural' high doesn't make it any less dangerous, or inherently 'better'.

The most accessible and safest 'legal highs' are magic mushrooms from a reputable supplier, or picked by your own fair hand, secure in the knowledge of what you are picking.

Try nutmeg very much at your own risk, because you are risking hepatitic failure, transient renal toxicity and hypertensive crisis.

Nutmeg screws you up.

Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
By the way, if you want to get a high from a herb, try googling what you can achieve with nutmeg...

I never said it was safer.
I didn't even suggest it.
I'm not even condoning it.
I was pointing out that a high can be achieved with store cupboard ingredients that the chap in this thread appears to be selling.



:thumbsup:

I just wanted to add a caveat there in case anyone decided to try to try it for themselves....'sall

ive seen him, he said 'ya want some weed' to me as blatant as you want.
Bottom of fargate i was, waiting for the bus with my mother, he saw the look on her face and backed away rather slowly

i just laughed :D

Boy in A Box

somebody should offer this guy a job in a kitchen, he obvioulsy knows his herbs:hihi: