Jon
03-07-2003, 01:20
Sheffield is surrounded by seven hills....Which hills are we talking about. I have always wanted to know the answer to this?
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View Full Version : Seven Hills Of Sheffield? Jon 03-07-2003, 01:20 Sheffield is surrounded by seven hills....Which hills are we talking about. I have always wanted to know the answer to this? Ant 03-07-2003, 01:45 Ah, well I can't answer this one fully, but I can certainly give some guidance. I'm led to believe that there's a Roderick Hill that lives on the north side - somewhere near Penistone. And in the affluent south-west area of Totley there's a certain Mrs Nelly Hill and her daughters Podmorgan and Henrietta. So that's two. Can anyone else suggest where the other five Hills are located? Always glad to help a friend in need, mate. ;) Ant. PaulTansley 03-07-2003, 04:35 :lol: :lol: Yeah O.K Ant, seriously there is another thread that list these hills courtesy from me 1 Shirecliffe 2 Manor Top 3 Grenoside 4 Norton 5 Wincobank 6 Crosspool 7 Bradfield Miss_60 03-07-2003, 07:37 .....Is Win Hill the highest peak in Derbyshire? max 03-07-2003, 07:59 Originally posted by Miss_60 .....Is Win Hill the highest peak in Derbyshire? No, Kinder Scout is. si@guisborough 05-07-2003, 19:42 Wincobank is a great place for walking, with great views of Sheffield and the odd burning car. Hadn`t realised it`s one of the seven hills. Used to live nearby, at Grimesthorpe. Moon Maiden 05-07-2003, 20:11 Wincobank is also the site for the Iron Age settlement - probably built by the Brigantes as defense against the Romans. Moon Jon 05-07-2003, 20:16 Originally posted by Moon Maiden Wincobank is also the site for the Iron Age settlement - probably built by the Brigantes as defense against the Romans. Moon Now if you come up Barnsley Rd there are signs saying Roman Ridge pointing towards the hill:? halevan 06-07-2003, 19:26 Rather be on the seven hills of Rome! si@guisborough 08-07-2003, 18:23 The smog is much worse in Rome!!! stella fan 01-04-2004, 16:33 Does anyone know the names of the seven hills sheffield is built on? Tony 01-04-2004, 16:36 No idea if these are the proper names but... Shirecliffe Lodge Moor Manor Top Brincliffe fnkysknky 01-04-2004, 16:38 Herdings is one max 01-04-2004, 16:46 Threads merged. John 01-04-2004, 17:55 Normanton Hill Broomhill Hillsborough :thumbsup: tslogf74 01-04-2004, 19:30 Originally posted by Cycleracer :lol: :lol: Yeah O.K Ant, seriously there is another thread that list these hills courtesy from me 1 Shirecliffe 2 Manor Top 3 Grenoside 4 Norton 5 Wincobank 6 Crosspool 7 Bradfield Excuse my ignorance, but which one is Crookes on? matsalleh 01-04-2004, 20:21 What about Stannington? Bradfield ? Not much building there. jgharston 18-05-2005, 17:01 I'd been pondering this, and there's a letter in tonight's Star asking just that. Which or where are the seven hills of Sheffield? When did the phrase become common? If people were using it before the 1920s then the hills must be within Sheffield's old boundaries - approximately Rivelin valley, Herries Road, Carr Brook, Meers Brook, Sheaf valley, Limb Brook, Stanage Edge. -- JGH BoppinBruce 18-05-2005, 17:21 Surprised nobody has mentioned the monument to the 7 hills, just under the Wicker Arches on Chas Clarkes, now, and I think it is a shame, forecourt. Not promoted, there is a representation of the 7 hills made from the last stainless steel from ESS or what it became afterwards. A tribute to Sheffield, but like the lone rider outside the Alamo in USA sadly forgotten. It shows the contours of the hills and the 6 rivers that flowed between. And its taken a Cockney to tell you that. Shame on you Greybeard 18-05-2005, 19:21 Originally posted by BoppinBruce It shows the contours of the hills and the 6 rivers that flowed between. Six rivers ? Don Loxley Rivelin Porter (though usually known as the Porter Brook) Sheaf and ...? - unless one of the several brooks is included. Blackburn Brook Carr Brook Kirk Bridge Dyke Hartley Brook Bagley Dyke Meers Brook probably a couple of others too ? Ant 18-05-2005, 22:23 Wow! That's a very, very old thread you've unearthed. The world was a much simpler place back then. * Sigh * sparky2 19-05-2005, 15:56 Does anyone know which are the seven hills of Sheffield, also the history of them. Abdul 19-05-2005, 15:59 This topic has been covered before, many times, such as here: Seven Hills Of Sheffield? (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=14917#post14917) Edit - now THAT was quick modding ;) max 19-05-2005, 16:01 Originally posted by Abdul This topic has been covered before, many times. Please use the search function /mod :) MOD: Thanks abdul, threads merged, again. Sparky - please use the search facility. jgharston 19-05-2005, 17:00 Originally posted by max MOD: Thanks abdul, threads merged, again. Sparky - please use the search facility. Sorry, my fault. I did do a search for 'seven hills sheffield', and found nothing relevant. I obviously didn't go back far enough ;). -- JGH Sara 20-05-2005, 11:03 Dont' know, but suggest you buy an OS map and look at the contour lines and roads, just a suggestion Dear_Ladies 21-11-2005, 15:39 I'm sure this topic must have been covered before, but a quick forum search didn't bring anything up, so here goes... As we all know, Sheffield is built on seven hills. What are these hills, and where are their summits? The only thing I can find on tinternet concludes that there are in fact eight, or six, or something, and doesn't give any summits. (http://www.mdfs.net/Docs/Sheffield/Hills/) They should make a cracking training run/bike ride. michael_v2 21-11-2005, 15:42 I have known of the seven hills saying for a long time, but don't actually know wether it is actually seven hills or not. I even go as far as to have seven hills mick as my screen name on various sites. i know this doesn't really help, but thought i'd post anyway. Seven Hills Mick. Ally68 21-11-2005, 15:42 Yes you're right this has been covered before and it's here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=1632&highlight=Sheffield+seven+Hills) :thumbsup: Dear_Ladies 21-11-2005, 15:51 Thanks Ally68 - knew it would be there somewhere! So is everyone agreed on: 1 Shirecliffe 2 Manor Top 3 Grenoside 4 Norton 5 Wincobank 6 Crosspool 7 Bradfield ? I'll try and check the grid refs of the summits and opst them here later on. max 21-11-2005, 15:53 Originally posted by Ally68 Yes you're right this has been covered before and it's here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=1632&highlight=Sheffield+seven+Hills) :thumbsup: MOD: Thanks ally, threads merged again. Grahame 21-11-2005, 16:12 Bradfield didn't belong to Sheffield. It was a Chapelry (Parish) in its own right. The Sheffield/Bradfield boundary was the River Rivelin. To replace Bradfield how about Ecclesall. The district of Ecclesall is above Greystones where Ringinglow Road meets Ecclesall Road South. If memory serves it is something like 225 meters above sea level and one of the highest points in Sheffield? Lodgemoor was known as Hallam Head in medieval England and I suggest that ought to replace Crosspool? Thinking about it Whirlow is higher than Ecclesall. jgharston 21-11-2005, 16:18 Originally posted by Dear_Ladies So is everyone agreed on: 1 Shirecliffe 2 Manor Top 3 Grenoside Nope, Grenoside has only been in Sheffield since 1974, and the phrase "seven hills" predates that by at least fifty years. 4 Norton 5 Wincobank 6 Crosspool 7 Bradfield ? Bradfield is at the bottom of a valley, not the top of a hill. Even if you mean the hill that High Bradfield is on, that still omits Stannington. Also, what about Greystones - the hill between the Porter Valley and the Sheaf Valley? Taking Sheffield's boundaries between about 1900 and 1920, I think the most likely hills are: 1: Wadsley/Wisewood 2: Lower Stannington 3: Crosspool/Crookes/Walkley 4: Greystones/Millhouses 5: Woodseats 6: Manor/Castle/Darnall 7: Burngreave/Fir Vale. Even then, Wincobank had been added to the city in 1900, so that gives eight. Before 1900 Wincobank and Woodseats were not in the city, so that gives six :( :( -- JGH Dear_Ladies 21-11-2005, 16:18 OK, here's a provisional list of gridrefs and heights: Shirecliffe 174m 350896 Manor Top >200m 382850 Grenoside 249m 327936 Norton 219m 363826 Wincobank 161m 377910 Crosspool >250m 324872 Bradfield 395m 277929 These will all want checking on the ground - I'll try to do this at the weekend. Grahame - I think you're right about Bradfield, it sticks out like a sore thumb. It's a good distance from the others, much higher and not really in Sheffield proper. Whereabouts in Ecclesall would you say? Grahame 21-11-2005, 16:28 I would replace Ecclesall with Whirlow. And I would replace Crosspool with Hallam Head (now Lodgemoor) Both are ancient places and both the Sheffield side of Stannage Edge. Dear_Ladies 21-11-2005, 16:40 Lodge Moor 292m 290856 Hmmm....is it "in" Sheffield in the same way that Crosspool is? Once you start with outliers, next thing you know you're at Rud Hill or Stanedge Pole. Whirlow - perhaps the trig point at 299836 (Ringinglow)? The problem with Whirlow is it's on the side of a hill really. Grahame 21-11-2005, 16:46 There was a Roman road from Brough near Hathersage, (Not in Sheffield). The Roman soldiers marched from Hathersage over Stannage (Redmires) (They are now in Sheffield) along Long Causway (Hallam Head) through Crosspool down Lydgate Lane and onto Brook Hill, and Ladys Bridge. etc. Hallam Head belonged to the Lord of the manor of Hallam and included Crosspool. With Whirlow suggest taking the highest point somewhere around Ringinglow? Dear_Ladies 21-11-2005, 16:53 I can see this is going to take some thought. A contour-only map would be handy - does anyone know where there might be one? University geography department? Grahame 21-11-2005, 16:56 Norton and Mannor Top are on the same hill. (I don't think there is a valley between them) Dear_Ladies 21-11-2005, 17:04 That's Manor Top out then. Not the most picturesque of the list anyway. Sad to see Grenoside go though. Grahame 21-11-2005, 17:08 Starting in the west of Sheffield and going anti-clockwise to the highest point between two valleys. Loxley Common (Highest point between the River Don and the River Loxley ) Stannington (Highest point between the River Loxley and the River Rivelin. Hallam Head/Lodgemoor (Highest point between River Rivelin and the River Porter) Ringinglow (Highest point between River Porter and River Sheaf) Norton (Highest point to the east of Sheffield between the River Sheaf and the River Don?) Shirecliffe 174m 350896 Wincobank 161m 377910 Requires further consideration though. rocketpig 21-11-2005, 17:20 Originally posted by Miss_60 .....Is Win Hill the highest peak in Derbyshire? yep, kinder is the highest.........lose hill, which is next to win hill is higher than win hill, (despite the names!) jgharston 21-11-2005, 18:47 Originally posted by Grahame Norton (Highest point to the east of Sheffield between the River Sheaf and the River Don?) Requires further consideration though. Yeah, misses out the plataeu between Meers Brook and River Don. saxon51 21-11-2005, 19:03 Originally posted by Grahame Norton and Mannor Top are on the same hill. (I don't think there is a valley between them) Manor Top to Norton requires a gentle but appreciable dip down Ridgeway and back up, steeply, again to Gleadless Townend (White Lane) before levelling out and onwards to Norton. Two hills on the same ridge line. Directly from Manor to Norton you would need to drop into Gleadless Valley. Two hills completely. Grahame 21-11-2005, 19:41 Manor Top to Norton requires a gentle but appreciable dip down Ridgeway and back up, steeply, again to Gleadless Townend (White Lane) before levelling out and onwards to Norton. That's right, but all hillsides have undulations? Perhaps the hill top should be Gleedless Townend? saxon51 21-11-2005, 19:46 Originally posted by Grahame That's right, but all hillsides have undulations? Perhaps the hill top should be Gleedless Townend? Now you've said that, I am now thinking Herdings....but that wasn't in Sheffield till the 60's .......... was it?:confused: Grahame 21-11-2005, 20:00 Got to be careful here because the Meersbrook was the Derbyshire boundary and Herdings is mighty close. That would rule out Norton because now I come to think of it Norton was in Derbyshire? That would reinstate the Mannor or even Darnal which is definatly part of old Sheffield and High Hazels Park has good views for miles around. Mind you I think the Mannor is higher and it is a Sheffield Hill? Mannor Lodge remember? That was Sheffield wasn't it? saxon51 21-11-2005, 20:11 My brain is ticking over with this, and I was just wondering if it might be easier to identify seven VALLEYS radiating from the city centre and then search between these valleys - outwards - for possible hills within the old town limits. The six valleys I can identify are: DON (entering from the north west), DON (Lower Don Valley) LOXLEY RIVELIN PORTER SHEAF Is there a seventh? There must be, for there to be seven hills between. Grahame 21-11-2005, 20:14 That is what I did saxon and the places I mentioned are on the hills between the valleys of which you speak. The shortfall is made up with Wincobank Hill and Shirecliffe. Loxley Common (Highest point between the River Don and the River Loxley ) Stannington (Highest point between the River Loxley and the River Rivelin. Hallam Head/Lodgemoor (Highest point between River Rivelin and the River Porter) Ringinglow (Highest point between River Porter and River Sheaf) Norton (Highest point to the east of Sheffield between the River Sheaf and the River Don?) Shirecliffe 174m 350896 Wincobank 161m 377910 P.S. Norton needs changing to the Mannor or somewhere near it. saxon51 21-11-2005, 20:24 Originally posted by Grahame P.S. Norton needs changing to the Mannor or somewhere near it. Arbourthorne, top of East Bank Rd maybe? If you remove the buildings and look at the lie of the land, I think that the Manor Top bit is downhill of here. Grahame 21-11-2005, 20:28 The Meers Brook comes out at the top of Leighton Rd, and from memory that is pretty high? Is that the highest point do you think? Grahame 21-11-2005, 20:33 You can see the contours and spot heights here (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=438000.69040975&Y=383000.819468218&width=700&height=400&gride=438013.69040975&gridn=383014.819468218&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=GB&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=1&scale=25000) Can you see the Trig point just off Birly Lane? 210 metres? saxon51 21-11-2005, 20:41 We may be approaching this in the wrong way Grahame. A city/town lying within 7 hills may not contain the summits of those hills within it's boundaries. It may just mean that you can see the seven hills from the centre, or you have a choice of 7 hills on which to leave the place. Example, Hillsborough can be said to be boundered by 4 hills, Parkwood Springs, Upper Walkley, Wadsley Common and Southey Green, but the tops are well outside the Hillsborough district. Make sense? Grahame 21-11-2005, 20:45 I know what you mean Saxon, but my understanding is that Sheffield was built on seven hills and I think with your help we may have got them. It needs other people to say what they think? Then we may be right up the creek? I hope not, but for now at least I’m happy. saxon51 21-11-2005, 20:50 Originally posted by Grahame You can see the contours and spot heights here (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=438000.69040975&Y=383000.819468218&width=700&height=400&gride=438013.69040975&gridn=383014.819468218&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=GB&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=1&scale=25000) Can you see the Trig point just off Birly Lane? 210 metres? Is this Herdings then? Lost my bearings. :confused: Grahame 21-11-2005, 20:55 It's Base Green, just up White Lane from Gleedless Town End. Near Thornbridge School. jgharston 21-11-2005, 20:56 Originally posted by saxon51 Is this Herdings then? Lost my bearings. :confused: The Herdings tram stop is 600m west of the red circle in the middle of the map. Grahame 21-11-2005, 20:57 That's right. That was my search term. It is all high round there, it is as near the summity of the hill as makes no difference? jgharston 21-11-2005, 20:58 Originally posted by saxon51 The six valleys I can identify are: DON (entering from the north west), DON (Lower Don Valley) LOXLEY RIVELIN PORTER SHEAF Is there a seventh? There must be, for there to be seven hills between. Meersbrook, runs from Heeley Bottom to Gleadless Townend. See mdfs.net/Docs/Sheffield/Hills -- JGH Grahame 21-11-2005, 20:59 Thats right, but the trig point and Gleedless Townend are in Sheffield (Thank goodness) Grahame 21-11-2005, 21:04 I didn't know about that site, but that confirms we are within the Sheffield Boundry and speaking personally I think we have it right, some of those places are a lot lower. Signing off for now, speak to you again. Graham. P.S. That site has Derbyshire Lane and that was in Derbyshire. I think there are other mistakes as well. We will come back to it again. That was good. Cheers. Dear_Ladies 21-11-2005, 21:19 Good work chaps. Looks like you might be on the way to a definitive list! saxon51 21-11-2005, 21:25 Having looked at the map, it appears that the southern boundary of Sheff was from Manor Top, through Norfolk Park [a possible contender?] and on to Abbey Lane area. Herdings [and the source of the Meersbrook], Gleadless Townend and Norton were way outside the city limits. This would make the highest points to the south: a: Top of East Bank Rd - Norfolk Park/Arbourthorne? across the valley to- b: Meersbrook Park/Derbyshire Lane area? across the next valley to- c: Ecclesall Church area/Bents Green? jgharston 21-11-2005, 22:23 Ok, I've updated mdfs.net/Docs/Sheffield/Borders to describe the additions to the city and the line of the boundary.# Grahame 22-11-2005, 16:34 I am very impressed with your knowledge of the Sheffield boundary changes. We often talk at work about this and how Sheffield used to be in the West Riding and those who lived on Colly Road for example paid their rent to Wortley Rural Council and those who lived on Deerlands Avenue paid their rent to Sheffield Council. (And, showing my age I can remember this and the boundary change happening.) Anyway back to the main issue if I may. At the time of George Orewell the stage coach would have been the main mode of transport and even the horse drawn bus? The reason for my comment is that stage coaches went along the valley bottoms because they couldn't manage the hills, so when the traveller arrived near what we call Victoria Quays near Park Square roundabout, if they had looked up they would have seen a massive hill up City Road that went to Mannor Top. Yesterday we were talking about the Meersbrook being the boundary and if the traveller had for example gone up Gleedless Road, they would have found themselves at Gleedless Townend which is roughly the highest point. Turning left would take them to the Mannor and continuing on would bring them to the River Don as it flows northward giving us our final hill as we discussed yesterday. How do you feel about this and can I ask what you think? Pauly 22-11-2005, 17:24 Originally posted by max No, Kinder Scout is. I'm sure I walked up Kinder Scout a couple of years ago with some friends. Is that the one near Hope with all the peat bogs at the top? Either way it was great fun. :D Grahame 24-11-2005, 18:55 Whether or not George Orwell was quoting an earlier writer when he spoke of the seven hills of Sheffield I do not know but the fact remains I keep being reminded of Sheffield in medieval England. At this time the town extended only between the castle and the Cathedral on High Street. Later the boundary extended to Western Bank but this is still a far cry from the extended boundaries of George Orwell’s day and even more so today. For this reason I have tried to keep within three miles of the city center. Please let me know what you think, especially Jon, saxon51 and all those who have done so much work in this field. Thank you all. WINCOBANK HILL Summit: Fort, 160 metres. SHIRECLIFFE Summit: Shirecliffe, 170 metres. Foothills: Spital Hill, Woodside, Firshill. STUDFIELD HILL Summit: Loxley Common, 239 metres. Foothills: Boulder Hill. LIBERTY HILL Summit: Knowle Top (Top of Spout Lane). 213 metres. TAPTON HILL Summit: Hallam Head, 295 metres. Foothills: Sale Hill, Broomhill, Brookhill. DOBBIN HILL Summit: "Hill Top" Bents Green (due to the 3 miles limit). 246 metres. PARK HILL Summit: Elm Tree Hill (Manor Top). 200 metres approx. In the massive Deer Park surrounding Manor Lodge, deer were counted by the thousand. Along "Park Hill," between Manor Lodge and the Castle was a great avenue of walnut trees. jgharston 25-11-2005, 16:21 Originally posted by Grahame WINCOBANK HILL Summit: Fort, 160 metres. Outside Sheffield before 1900 SHIRECLIFFE Summit: Shirecliffe, 170 metres. Foothills: Spital Hill, Woodside, Firshill. Inside Sheffield since Medaeval times as Brightside Bierlow STUDFIELD HILL Summit: Loxley Common, 239 metres. Foothills: Boulder Hill. Outside Sheffield before 1974 LIBERTY HILL Summit: Knowle Top (Top of Spout Lane). 213 metres. Outside Sheffield before 1974 TAPTON HILL Summit: Hallam Head, 295 metres. Foothills: Sale Hill, Broomhill, Brookhill. Inside Sheffield since Medeval times as Upper Hallam DOBBIN HILL Summit: "Hill Top" Bents Green (due to the 3 miles limit). 246 metres. Inside Sheffield since Medaeval times as Ecclesall Bierlow PARK HILL Summit: Elm Tree Hill (Manor Top). 200 metres approx. Inside Sheffield since Medeval times as Sheffield Township. Grahame 25-11-2005, 17:02 Thank you for the feedback Jon. So there are three hills that were outside early Sheffield and we need to replace them. Have you any ideas yourself? By the way, I have been to Wicker Arches today to try and find the plaque that someone mentioned. They said it told where the seven hills were. Can anyone shed any light on this please? Grahame 25-11-2005, 23:16 I have just found this post again by BoppinBruce. Surprised nobody has mentioned the monument to the 7 hills, just under the Wicker Arches on Chas Clarkes, now, and I think it is a shame, forecourt. I'm busy this weekend, is it possible someone may be going that way? Grahame 27-11-2005, 10:05 I have been to Charles Clark by the Wicker Arches, guess what, due to the new ring road the monument has been taken down. Can anyone help! bigbladerob 16-12-2005, 11:09 We are chatting in the office about the 7hills of sheffield...where are they?? We have four (we think!) Park Hill Walkley/Crookes Heeley/Woodseats Parkwood Springs (ski Village) What are the other??? The_Sharp 16-12-2005, 11:12 Well i used to live on Skye Edge and that is on top of one of them. Not sure which Hill that is ( i didn't realise that they had names).....but Wincobank has to be one of them surely??? eggfuture 16-12-2005, 11:12 The others I think are called: Firetop Mountain Devil's Peak Snowdon wendygs 16-12-2005, 11:14 Originally posted by bigbladerob We are chatting in the office about the 7hills of sheffield...where are they?? We have four (we think!) Park Hill Walkley/Crookes Heeley/Woodseats Parkwood Springs (ski Village) What are the other??? I thought this had been done several times before and once quite recently. The search button is over there <----------- Dogbox 16-12-2005, 11:21 Bloody hell put your handbag down love! Just cos we don't spend every waking hour on here. In fact this is my first post. Hi I'm Steve. I forgot Snowdon was in Sheffield. nick2 16-12-2005, 11:46 Originally posted by eggfuture The others I think are called: Firetop Mountain Devil's Peak Snowdon and Mount Doom TheRedWizard 16-12-2005, 12:12 http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=1632&highlight=hills+of+sheffield TheRedWizard 16-12-2005, 12:16 I'm thinking that the google earth software might be quite useful on this - but it doesn't work on my machine. I'm sure someone out there could do a screenshot and stick it in photobucket or similar for us all......................? Tracie 16-12-2005, 12:18 Mod Note: Threads merged. Thanks for the link! Fluffy Bunny Boy 16-12-2005, 12:22 hi dogbox! im following you mate! Grahame 04-03-2006, 08:02 I have been to the library today and this is what they have on the Seven Hills. In 1989the book “Sheffield Today” by H.D. Watts, P.A. Smithson, P.E. White included a map on page 42 which identified the seven hills as: 1. Stannington Ridge. 2. Loxley Ridge. 3. Shirecliffe (Pitsmoor Ridge) 4. Norfolk Park Ridge. 5. Greenhill Ridge 6. Ecclesall Ridge 7. Hallam Ridge. The “Seven Hills” is rather fanciful and this list need not be accepted as authoritive. In 1991 during the preparation for the World Student Games it was announced in the Star 19 July 1991 that the organisers hoped to set bonfires ablaze on Sheffield’s seven hills as the Games flame was lit at the Don Valley Stadium on 14 July. A phone call to the Recreation Dept. resulted in the following initial list mainly based around the rivers. 1. Loxley/Wadsley Common 2. Stannington 3. Crookes 4. Greystones/Ringinglow 5. Norton/Gleedless 6. Wincobank 7. Shirecliffe The Recreation Dept. said that one of the bonfires would be at Fox Lane Birley. This was a political decision. Other hills which may have qualified were in the Meersbrook, Skyedge, Norfolk Park areas. They admitted that licence had to be exercised to fit the stereotype of “Seven Hills.” In the absence of a definitive list is it possible to take a fresh look and see if anything can be worked out? The World Student Games struck a chord for me, and it must be possible to find seven promontories that can be seen from the top of the town Hall (Vulcan) that would provide the setting for a ring of fire around the city centre if all beacons were lit at the same time? What do people think? Grahame 04-03-2006, 08:52 Some of these places are outside the early Sheffield boundary unfortunately: WINCOBANK HILL. Outside Sheffield before 1900 LOXLEY COMMON. Outside Sheffield before 1974 STANNINGTON. Outside Sheffield before 1974 Places that were in Sheffield are: SHIRECLIFFE. Inside Sheffield since Medaeval times as Brightside Bierlow HALLAM HEAD. Inside Sheffield since Medeval times as Upper Hallam. RININGLOW. Inside Sheffield since Medaeval times as Ecclesall Bierlow. MANNOR TOP. Inside Sheffield since Medeval times as Sheffield Township. This leaves perhaps Crookes (Bole Hills or the top of Lydgate Lane which is seen from further away?), Skyedge, and Handsworth Hill, (High Hazles Park) Darnall. These would make seven. Any suggestions anyone. dcunited 04-03-2006, 15:58 twinned with rome aparently lol Grahame 11-03-2006, 16:08 These are the roads in Sheffield with "Hill" in their name for referance. 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Late? Three YEARS late! Is this a record? ;-) Grahame 07-11-2009, 11:23 sorry for coming into this late, i know i have a book somewhere on the english civil wars, which has a large section on sheffield and john brights regt, in which it quoted from a manuscript - "sheaffeld and its seven hills" - so that means the saying would go back to the 1640's at least, and would probably be the hills as seen from the castle or the boundaries as laid at the time :) so , find someone to stand on top of castle market and see which seven most prominent hills are visible :hihi: as this would have been the central point of a drawn map of the town at the time,and being as sheffield was a garrison town , i would think the boundaries were'nt as wide as they aree now :confused: oh, and wincobank is definatly one of the seven as its one of the oldest settlements listed in the area alongside templebro in rotherham. i believe that either stannington / loxley was also known as one, unfortunatly eveyone from different sides of the city has a view, but the easiest way would be to find what the areas/ boundaries were in the doomsday book and work from there upwards Andy I didn't know that about John Bright and the mention of seven hills. That's interesting. I reckon you are right as well when you say for someone to stand on the roof of Castle Market because that is where the castle was and I reckon you could have surveyed the whole of Sheffield from there which only went up to the the old university just past Brook Hill Roundabout. Thinking about it now I reckon that from the old castle you would have seen Parkwood Springs, Sky Edge on Mannor Lane, Crookesmoor, you might have seen Darnall, Wincobank, and looking along the Moor to the right we would have seen Sharrow and Psalter Lane rising up, and that leaves one more. How about Spital Hill? animal2006 07-11-2009, 11:27 Late? Late? Three YEARS late! Is this a record? ;-) Some people, always in a hurry.:D fangorn 07-11-2009, 12:01 Late? Late? Three YEARS late! Is this a record? ;-) no, i only just got round to bothering with these forums :D |