View Full Version : Tolerance, what does it mean??


mickdop
21-11-2006, 19:51
With all the talk of tolerance......doesn`t tolerance mean putting up with stuff you don`t like???? mostly because someone says you should?????

I don`t understand the phrase "Britain is a tolerant nation", does that just mean we put up with stuff we don`t like????

Does anyone else have a different view of what tolerance means, i`m happy to listen, i`m happy to be enlightened?

cgksheff
21-11-2006, 19:54
Taking the rough with the smooth.

sooz22
21-11-2006, 19:58
An attempt to accept without arguement that others view the world in a way different to you and chose to live their lives accordingly.

Understanding that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

mickdop
21-11-2006, 20:11
But don`t you think the world "TOLERANCE" is not the same as acceptance, is not the same as wanting to be educated in other peoples views, is not gaining an understanding in others, wheter it be a religious view, a political view..even someones choice of music.

I have no problem with somebody disagreeing with me, or putting their point forward, i don`t mind other people having different tastes to me, does this mean i tolerate them????

Why is it that if you cannot agree with somebody else`s point of view, they get angry, throw it in your face that "you have no tolerance!"

I find tolerance frustrating and all it means....

Was tolerance the word, used in the English language like this always or is this what it has become?

pattricia
21-11-2006, 20:14
Sometimes we are too tolerant in this country. Look where its got us.Everyone comes here for a handout.

Bago
21-11-2006, 20:25
Tolerance to me means living your own life the way that you want, but also don't expect others to be exactly like you. i.e. leave room for differences, but without losing sight of your own needs too.

I think I tolerate a lot of things in general. Like going out and making an effort with my family, when I don't want to. Then again, I know I would kick myself otherwise if I didn't. If I go out, I would tolerate the type of restaurant it may be, cos if it's a group gathering, then its whatever is best for majority of people.

However saying that, if I'm trying to lose weight, I wouldn't want my friends to tempt me to go out to a nice restaurant to eat without me. Especially if its our once a year get together. I would voice my opinions, and mostly it'll be taken into account. Or even family Christmas dinner, say.

Even with friends when we go out. We have a different choice of venue each time. Everyone gets to choose something that they like, and everyone goes. So... overall you get to experience different type of bars and music, and venues. At the end of the day, I enjoy their company, and I don't mind the venue that much. If I didn't want to go out, I can choose not to.

When it comes to cultural differences, I don't expect anyone to be exactly like how I am used to with families and things, but it'll be nice if they understood it. They don't have to imitate it.

carmencarter
21-11-2006, 21:15
I agree that "tolerate" can mean "accept with reluctance" rather than "accept happily".
You tolerate something but you don't necessarily like it, it's showing humility in a way because you are basically saying " well, I don't agree with what you're saying but I respect your right to say it"

Bago
21-11-2006, 21:41
To be honest, how do people make friends if you don't make that first effort ? You may be used to a lot of things in your life, but if you don't experience something else, you normally won't know that 1) you actually like the kind of life that you lead, or 2) you actually prefer a different lifestyle.

I've grown to like a lot of things through people that I have met. I didn't used to like curries or noodles very much. But now I do. I've picked up different habits by living with different people. So... it just happens naturally. I've grown to like G&T more now, than when I was a student. ;)

Heyesey
22-11-2006, 00:46
Tolerance does not mean you accept other people's views, habits, beliefs etc. etc.... but it does mean, you accept their right to have them.

Even in this country, there are some views, habits, beliefs which are NOT accepted. For instance, if you belong to religious sect which requires you to eat freshly-murdered human flesh every Friday night, you will not get freedom of religion here.

DeanoGV
22-11-2006, 01:15
With all the talk of tolerance......doesn`t tolerance mean putting up with stuff you don`t like???? mostly because someone says you should?????

I don`t understand the phrase "Britain is a tolerant nation", does that just mean we put up with stuff we don`t like????

Does anyone else have a different view of what tolerance means, i`m happy to listen, i`m happy to be enlightened?


"RESPECT" "RESPECT" "RESPECT"

birdsandbees
22-11-2006, 05:24
Tolerance = The right to agree to disagree

Gadgetgirl
22-11-2006, 06:52
In that case then Britain is no longer a tolerant nation then.

Tolerance to me is the first stage of apathy and then domination, so perhaps we need less tolerance and more standing up for our rights against the powers that be, be it Europe 'with their dumping effect' or the US with their 'kill everything that moves' ideology

Solomon1
22-11-2006, 07:11
Europe 'with their dumping effect'

what do you mean by this GG?

Gadgetgirl
22-11-2006, 08:55
It seems to me that Britain no longer has its own laws and dictats, they all are overridden by Europe who I don't always feel have our best interests at heart and see Britain as an ideal dumping ground for the stuff the rest of europe don't want.

Darbees
22-11-2006, 09:02
I think tolerate is a negative word which implies that one would prefer not to have a situation but will put up with it reluctantly. Acceptance is the positive version of the same situation.

Greybeard
22-11-2006, 10:07
I sometimes wonder if tolerance isn't an excuse for apathy and fear. People seem too frightned to stand up and be intolerant about the social evils of our modern society so 'tolerate' them instead.

Solomon1
27-11-2006, 21:46
It seems to me that Britain no longer has its own laws and dictats, they all are overridden by Europe who I don't always feel have our best interests at heart and see Britain as an ideal dumping ground for the stuff the rest of europe don't want.

am still not following you GG? you feel that 'we been done by dem mainlanders'? why? and dumping of what?

personally, i think a united europe is worth any of the hiccups, us wingeing poms seem to bellyache about. far better to homogenise, than to climb on our own little anthills and say 'waahh....don't like the way you do things. my tiny little way was much better...waaahh!'

no man is an island (even if britain is). we all need to work together, in order to avoid the kind of conflict that led to the second world war. yes, it involves compromises and mistakes, but if you feel that strongly about it, get involved. join a political party and make things better. for everyone. don't just winge about nonsensical nothingness.

:)