hi, need advice quick as my 18month old monster has swallowed 10p in a little act of defiance. cant get through to nshdirect and their internet thing isnt working.. my auntie says that they dont do anything in the hospital but tell you to wait so dont know whether to go or not... any advice what is the best course of action would be greatly appreciated. she seems fine btw. thanks

Oh dear kids will be kids :hihi: if i were you i would just ring the A&E at the childrens hospital and see what they say for your own peace of mind.

If an adult swallowed a coin then I think nature will take its course eventually, but a small child, I think I would be seeking advice straight away.

Get The Child To Hospital Immediately!

when my son was little he swallowed a ballbarin from a game,we did take him to hospital and like your aunt says they just told us to wait and see if it passed through,i guess it did cos t didnt corse any trouble for him

as long as he/she isn't choaking on it, i think it will be ok, and eventually nature will take it's course...

not like i know or anything :blush: i did something similar as a child

i'm sure if he(?) isn't in distress it'll be fine, what can anybody actually do?

when my son was little he swallowed a ballbarin from a game,we did take him to hospital and like your aunt says they just told us to wait and see if it passed through,i guess it did cos t didnt corse any trouble for him

A ball bearing, and a 10p piece are chalk and cheese. What are you waiting for woman.....get the child to Hospital...never mind SF...just get the child there immediately

call you gp's surgery they will have an out of hours No. to call at least you'll get some advice

as long as he/she isn't choaking on it, i think it will be ok, and eventually nature will take it's course...

not like i know or anything :blush: i did something similar as a child
Is it the money your worried about?

Get The Child To Hospital Immediately!

Calm down....!

Is it the money your worried about?

no but swallowing a paper clip as a child ( i know a dumb move from me) made me realise the only real way for it to come out is by nature or laxatives :P

Do you have an out-of-hours phone number for your doctors?

Get the duty doctor to call you back.

call you gp's surgery they will have an out of hours No. to call at least you'll get some advice

The child is 18 month's old.......never mind calling some outside hours bloody surgery phone service.

thnaks. off to the hosp

Calm down....!

OK...why do I bother.....:mad:

Not to worry. When my son was three, he swallowed at least five pennies. (http://www.perkowitz.net/photo/images/2005/03/08/pennies-01.www.jpg) Maybe more, we only found five. The main worry with small children swallowing foreign objects is choking. I would say if your little girl is acting fine and breathing ok, then just wait for things to come out in the end. ;) If you're still worried, maybe a phone call to the doctor.

:) Sierra

thnaks. off to the hosp

Thanks lass.....ignore these peeps...it's your child, not theirs!

OK...why do I bother.....:mad:

Sorry didn't mean to offend, but there really is no need to panic.

Sorry didn't mean to offend, but there really is no need to panic.

i do agree...many kids can surive swallowing stuff...look at me :)

no but swallowing a paper clip as a child ( i know a dumb move from me) made me realise the only real way for it to come out is by nature or laxatives :P

A paper clip is not the diameter of a 10p piece! :loopy:

What a coincidence - this happened to a colleague's child only this morning. The NHS advice line advised her to take the child to the Childrens' Hospital, where they used a metal detecting device to check that it had made its way all the way down into the stomach.

They couldn't get conclusive evidence and ended up x-raying. The little boy is fine though - don't worry, just get it checked out.

Good luck.

Hope she's OK. At least you will be reassured, if all is clear.

Let us know if there is any change!

Get her to the Childrens Hospital straightaway, the coin, depending on where it is lodged, may be allowing air/food to get past it, but it only has to rotate through 90 degrees and you've got serious problems.

<----Sits back and waits for the inevitable "Wait 24 hours to see if there is any change" joke.

Damn, I was 2 minutes late.

A paper clip is not the diameter of a 10p piece! :loopy:

i agree it is not...but if we have established that the child is not choaking on the money then it is just a case of it being sat there in the tummy...like mine one. i do apologise for drawing on my own experience here...next time i shall try not to bother Shoeshine

hi, need advice quick as my 18month old monster has swallowed 10p in a little act of defiance. cant get through to nshdirect and their internet thing isnt working.. my auntie says that they dont do anything in the hospital but tell you to wait so dont know whether to go or not... any advice what is the best course of action would be greatly appreciated. she seems fine btw. thanks

I swallowed a Nurse's cap off a Playmobil figure when I was little, it came out when I had a poo iirc :gag:

That could work with your little 'un.

i agree it is not...but if we have established that the child is not choaking on the money then it is just a case of it being sat there in the tummy...like mine one. i do apologise for drawing on my own experience here...next time i shall try not to bother Shoeshine

Good idea!:)

I swallowed a Nurse's cap off a Playmobil figure when I was little, it came out when I had a poo iirc :gag:

That could work with your little 'un.

Are you sure it came out, Rich? :hihi:

Are you sure it came out, Rich? :hihi:

Oh be quiet you... :P

i agree it is not...but if we have established that the child is not choaking on the money then it is just a case of it being sat there in the tummy...like mine one. i do apologise for drawing on my own experience here...next time i shall try not to bother Shoeshine

I gently disagree, kelli, ducks.

the coin may not have moved down entirely into baby SIB's stomach, it could be still stuck in the food pipe.

An X ray will tell SIH if SIB has swallowed it completely. Taking SIB to the children's, and getting her checked out, is the best thing she can do.

if it is stuck it could cause an infection in the oesophagus, (food pipe) best to be safe than sorry.

SIH, hope Satan In Booties is okay. please keep us posted.

From 'tinternet:

Ingested foreign bodies
A frequent problem in the six-months to three-years age group is the swallowing of various objects, particularly coins. However, up to 90 per cent of all ingested foreign bodies that reach the stomach will pass spontaneously - usually within a five-day period. In these situations it's best to wait and then inspect all bowel movements.

Even sharp objects such as safety pins or straight pins may pass through the bowel spontaneously without any complications, but such objects can be removed surgically if they remain in the upper part of the gut.

If a fish bone is stuck in a child's throat, and does not clear after an hour, you should consult a doctor. Sometimes, even when the bone moves, it leaves an uncomfortable scratch for a while which will seem to the child that it is still present. Opaque objects, such as coins, are accurately localised and observed with X-rays.

Oh be quiet you... :P


I promose I will Rich, so you saw it in.............:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

From 'tinternet:

Ingested foreign bodies
A frequent problem in the six-months to three-years age group is the swallowing of various objects, particularly coins. However, up to 90 per cent of all ingested foreign bodies that reach the stomach will pass spontaneously - usually within a five-day period. In these situations it's best to wait and then inspect all bowel movements.

Even sharp objects such as safety pins or straight pins may pass through the bowel spontaneously without any complications, but such objects can be removed surgically if they remain in the upper part of the gut.

If a fish bone is stuck in a child's throat, and does not clear after an hour, you should consult a doctor. Sometimes, even when the bone moves, it leaves an uncomfortable scratch for a while which will seem to the child that it is still present. Opaque objects, such as coins, are accurately localised and observed with X-rays.

Just like I said, give it a few days and the coin may end up as part of the contents of SIB's nappy.

I gently disagree, kelli, ducks.

the coin may not have moved down entirely into baby SIB's stomach, it could be still stuck in the food pipe.

An X ray will tell SIH if SIB has swallowed it completely. Taking SIB to the children's, and getting her checked out, is the best thing she can do.

if it is stuck it could cause an infection in the oesophagus, (food pipe) best to be safe than sorry.

SIH, hope Satan In Booties is okay. please keep us posted.

i do agree to some degree there, but at least your not deciding to treat me like an imbosile like some people :)

Just like I said, give it a few days and the coin may end up as part of the contents of SIB's nappy.

If it did, and no harms is done, you can have it plated and put in a necklace. I wonder if Rich has still got his memento...?

:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

(I really am only joking Rich and not extracting the urine.):hihi: :thumbsup:

I swallowed a Nurse's cap off a Playmobil figure when I was little, it came out when I had a poo iirc :gag:

That could work with your little 'un.

Do you think there's any connection with your recent intestinal problems, Rich?


*Gets coat*

keep looking every half hour to see if there's any change :hihi:
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I'd like to print a retraction here:

To my knowledge, Rich does not at this time -- nor ever did -- have intestinal troubles. I apologize for any confusion, embarrassment or inconvenience this may have caused.:blush:

So, Rich C., have you ever swallowed a plastic nurse's cap?

My little brother swallowed EVERYTHING as a little child.

Coins
Gold chains
Silver chains
My special horse pendant :rant:
A car air freshner (ok, a few car airfreshners, he used to lock himself in the car and munch on them if given the chance.)
Buttons off remote controls
my quints dolls leg :mad:

Every time it was down to the A&E, get him checked out, go home and wait for it to be pooped out. I can't remember anything ever being retrived :gag:
It's no wonder he now has IBS! serves him right! eating my special pendant!

To add, I hope Satans little un is ok, can understand the worry but if it has reached the stomach, the rest is just nature.

Do you think there's any connection with your recent intestinal problems, Rich?


*Gets coat*

Listen you, what does or doesn't go on with my nether regions is none of your beeswax... And no, that is not an admission that there has ever been anything amiss "downstairs".

thanks for the replies everyone! they metal detected her and its in her stomach so all sould be okay. only thing that needs sorting now is the temper that caused her to eat it in the first place!!

for future reference though if anyone wants to know, apparently they do need checking at the hospital cause as people have said, it might not go into the stomach.

thanks again :) x

Sorry didn't mean to offend, but there really is no need to panic.

Quite serious this.Glad they took shoeshines advice.This is a baby dont forget. :gag:

Quite serious this.Glad they took shoeshines advice.This is a baby dont forget. :gag:
Not really. I think it's quite important to remain calm in these situations.

Glad the little un's alright Satan.

Glad the lil one's ok.

My daughter swallowed a pen lid when she was 9. It felt like it was stuck so I took her to the childrens. As it was plastic it wouldn't show up on an xray so they made her sit and eat loads of sandwiches, crisps and drinks to push it down until she could feel that it had moved. Such an awful teatment lol!

As expected, it came out the other end a day or two later.

Listen you, what does or doesn't go on with my nether regions is none of your beeswax... And no, that is not an admission that there has ever been anything amiss "downstairs".

Beg pardon, Rich...

I got you mixed up with Rich C., who apparently didn't mind making his nether regions everyone's beeswax on a previous thread. (Please see, "Is it a bad thing..."). I shan't inquire about your digestive system again. Never. Ever. Not even if you beg me.:help:

On a happier note, I'm glad Baby Satan is doing fine.

Just to clear up some points from others....I personally wasn't in a panic about the situation. Why should I be in a panic?

It's not my kid. All I will say is that I have no confidence in

1) waiting while NHS Direct decide to get off their butts and answer the phone. Then wait while they pull a doctor out of a pub to ring back

2)Trying the "out-of service hours" hours standby-doctor service will you get through to NHS Direct et.....see 1) above.

3) The old, wise owls in a family who tell anyone not to "bother" going to A & E when this happens because you'll have to wait. Believe me, where children are concerned, they always get placed in the front of the queue, and quite rightly so.

4) We have had 3 children, now of adult age. If one of them had swallowed a 10p piece at 18 months old I would not be sat on the bloody computer asking folks for advice.

So if you wanna have a go at me...feel free.

Aw hope she's ok!

My brother once swallowed a badge! I think he was about 8 though, and think he had to wait for nature to take its course.

Lots of children swallow money! Heard of at least 4! And its not something you bring up in conversation is it? :hihi:

So if you wanna have a go at me...feel free.
Don't be daft. It's a child's life. I'm glad someone panicked. :)
Best to check it out anyway regardless.

I remember swallowing a fish bone just this summer, and it was so uncomfortable, and even I panicked, when it was lodged in my throat. It's only until I asked for help from my family that my brother took me seriously and told me to swallow some rice to push it asap. I could've sat there and choked, and they wouldn't have known ! So... even for a small kid. You just don't know. Best to get it checked out anyhow.

I think for a single parent, it's hard not to be indecisive when you're on your own, and needed someone to just knock common sense into the situation. I've done that in the past too regarding certain situations. Cos sometimes you just froze in such situations. I don't think the OP set out to ask in a blaise manner.

I'm glad that the baby is okay.

It is a good job when you think that the people of SF were there to help this young woman. She is there, alone, with a baby who may become ill very quickly, and in a quandry about what to do.
She asked for advice, was given it, acted upon it, and we have a happy outcome.
Let us be pleased the little one is no worse for his adventure, and congratulate yourselves on a job well done. :thumbsup:

Shoeshine, award yourself the 'in loco parentis' badge :hihi:

Hope the little one sleeps OK after all the excitement. :)

I remember swallowing a fish bone just this summer, and it was so uncomfortable, and even I panicked, when it was lodged in my throat. It's only until I asked for help from my family that my brother took me seriously and told me to swallow some rice to push it asap. I could've sat there and choked, and they wouldn't have known ! So... even for a small kid. You just don't know. Best to get it checked out anyhow.
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This happened to me to omg it was awful, i had to put my fingers down my throat and pull it out was really scarey and painful, i'm scared of eating any fish with bones now :( .

So glad baby SIH is ok :D

Hope she is on the mend SIH, let us know if there is any change.

:)

Shoeshine, award yourself the 'in loco parentis' badge :hihi:

Hope the little one sleeps OK after all the excitement. :)
Yes. Nothing replaces parental experiences.

Well, if I ever had a baby, and I was home alone, I hope such advices would be ready at my finger tips ! :) It's things like this which makes me like Sheffield. Really. The "I don't give a damn" stance, but you do really. :P :love:

Now, where are those Sheffield bashers from Baaarnsley ??? :D

Just to clear up some points from others....I personally wasn't in a panic about the situation. Why should I be in a panic?

It's not my kid. All I will say is that I have no confidence in

1) waiting while NHS Direct decide to get off their butts and answer the phone. Then wait while they pull a doctor out of a pub to ring back

2)Trying the "out-of service hours" hours standby-doctor service will you get through to NHS Direct et.....see 1) above.

3) The old, wise owls in a family who tell anyone not to "bother" going to A & E when this happens because you'll have to wait. Believe me, where children are concerned, they always get placed in the front of the queue, and quite "rightly so.

4) We have had 3 children, now of adult age. If one of them had swallowed a 10p piece at 18 months old I would not be sat on the bloody computer asking folks for advice.

So if you wanna have a go at me...feel free.

I think it might have been this that indicated that you were less than calm:

"Get The Child To Hospital Immediately!"

Or this:

"The child is 18 month's old.......never mind calling some outside hours bloody surgery phone service."

Whilst I agree that it's a good thing that people can ask advice, I also feel it's important that it's level headed and calm. The baby was in no immediate danger, so hanging on for advice from NHS direct or out of hours service would do no harm in this case. It has been commented on that when you're on your own with a child in these sorts of situations it can be difficult to see clearly what you should do, well many parents in these situations are easily panicked too, and a panicing parent alone with a potentially poorly child is not always a good combination.
Also don't forget, children don't get placed at the head of an A&E queue, particularly if you are using a childrens A&E as I assume SIH was, they get placed accoerding to the seriousness of their complaint, so A&E is not a shortcut to medical advice.

With regard to Artisan's reply, I doubt very much that it would have taken much longer to get proper medical advice over the phone from NHS direct than to post and read replies on this forum.

A bit of advice for Satan, give your child paper money to play with, its a bit harder to swallow but will break down ok. Glad she's ok however taking her to the hospital pronto was the only sensible option as I'm sure the hospital told you.

Well it's a long time since my two were 18months old but I'm sorry, if it had happened to me I would have been down the hospital quicker than I could have uttered the word "help"....

OK, I might not have been seen any quicker but at least I would have been in the right place if the 2/- piece had decided to get thrown up and got wedged or something on the way out.

Better to be safe than sorry in my opinion.
Glad it had a happy ending anyway.

Any change in your daughter this morning?;)

It's not the taking of the child to hospital that concerns me, it's the panic with which it was recommended in when what was called for was calm reassurance.

I apologise for swearing on one of my posts last night.

I personally wasn't panicking, and never suggested that SIH started panicking herself, either.

Obviously any parent would need to keep calm in such incidents

As for your situation, SIH, I had no idea you were alone with the child.

Kids eh! Who'd have 'em. :hihi:

I hope all goes well, and that the 10p piece rejoins the general circulation of small change in the shops very soon. :hihi:

Just to clear up some points from others....I personally wasn't in a panic about the situation. Why should I be in a panic?

It's not my kid. All I will say is that I have no confidence in

1) waiting while NHS Direct decide to get off their butts and answer the phone. Then wait while they pull a doctor out of a pub to ring back

2)Trying the "out-of service hours" hours standby-doctor service will you get through to NHS Direct et.....see 1) above.

3) The old, wise owls in a family who tell anyone not to "bother" going to A & E when this happens because you'll have to wait. Believe me, where children are concerned, they always get placed in the front of the queue, and quite rightly so.

4) We have had 3 children, now of adult age. If one of them had swallowed a 10p piece at 18 months old I would not be sat on the bloody computer asking folks for advice.

So if you wanna have a go at me...feel free.

As Scoop says, the tone of your posts suggested panic, anxiety and emergency, when what was required was reassurance and calm advice.

Objects that have been swallowed do not pose a risk to life (unless it's thallium of course). If the airway is not obstructed then a steady trip up to the Childrens Hospital by car, taxi or bus would be fine. A mad dash through traffic is not required, nor is an ambulance.

The old, wise owls in a family who tell anyone not to "bother" going to A & E when this happens because you'll have to wait. Believe me, where children are concerned, they always get placed in the front of the queue, and quite "rightly so.
How does a child go to the front of a queue at a dedicated Childrens Hospital? What about the child who arrived before it, who went to the front of the queue ahead of the child that arrived before it and so on ad infinitum? You could be waiting forever if you came in first...

I hope all goes well, and that the 10p piece rejoins the general circulation of small change in the shops very soon. :hihi:

What a thought :gag:

What a thought :gag:

:hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Coming to a shop near you? :)

Glad all is well ....It'll be funny if she 'short changes' you on the 10p though :D

Getting the money back will be like finding a silver sixpence in a christmas pud.

I call 'heads'.

Getting the money back will be like finding a silver sixpence in a christmas pud.

Ooohhhh... cringe, cringe.

I am most definitely not having any home-made Christmas puds with 10 pences in them ! :help:

Has the cash dropped yet???

:)

I once swallowed a 20p peice when using my Inhaler and both the Northern General and Hallamshire could not find anything on x-ray and thought I was imagining the fact that something had gone down. THREE days later whilst sleeping it came back into my throat and I made myself get it up If that was a child it could easily have choked them.

1) waiting while NHS Direct decide to get off their butts and answer the phone. Then wait while they pull a doctor out of a pub to ring back. good point, as it was well over an hour before they phoned back, by which time we were well on the way to the hospital

2)Trying the "out-of service hours" hours standby-doctor service will you get through to NHS Direct et.....see 1) above. same as above...

3) The old, wise owls in a family who tell anyone not to "bother" going to A & E when this happens because you'll have to wait. Believe me, where children are concerned, they always get placed in the front of the queue, and quite rightly so. when it is the childrens hospital its rather impossible for them to be put to the front of the queue, as they are all children :confused:

4) We have had 3 children, now of adult age. If one of them had swallowed a 10p piece at 18 months old I would not be sat on the bloody computer asking folks for advice.if i really need to explain this to anyone, i must have been at the computer for like a minute max each time, first to write the post and then a quick scan of replies a couple of mins later! had absolutely no idea what to do with her and neither did my mum.. if hadnt asked for some advice then may not have gone to the hospital.. any suggestions as to what else i should have done?

had absolutely no idea what to do with her and neither did my mum.. if hadnt asked for some advice then may not have gone to the hospital.. any suggestions as to what else i should have done?

Quite sensibly, to do exactly what you did, which was get Satan In Booties to the children's asap, and checked over, for safety's sake.

I'm glad everything the little one is ok Satanin heels, have you got your money back yet?

Just wanted to say also. NHS direct is a nurse led service and doesn't involve pulling doctors out of pubs or anywhere else.

Also when you call NHS direct that call is very carefully triaged. If the nature of your call is life threatenting first aid advice is given while you are waiting for a paramedic ambulance to arrive.

If you call NHS direct and they call you back an hour later it is because your call has been assessed as non urgent.

In this case there would have been no difference to the outcome as SatanInHeels would have been advised to take her baby to hospital anyway, because of the investagative procedures necassary, but NHS direct is actually a very good service in terms of deflecting patients who would otherwise turn up unnecasserily at a&e when in reality their problems could be dealt with either at home or with a routine appointment at their GP surgery.

SIH's, I hope my post the other night did not upset you. You did the right thing.

I hope all goes well in the near future for you and the little one.

I don't like to seek enemies on this Forum, especially with young people.

My sincere apologies to you personally for any extra pressure I may have been responsible for, adding to your worries at the time.

Peter

I don't like to seek enemies on this Forum, especially with young people.

Peter

He reserves that privilege for old people :hihi: :hihi:

He reserves that privilege for old people :hihi: :hihi:

Yep, particularly the infirm of brain.....takes 3 weeks to get a reply, by which time eveyone's forgotten about it! :hihi:

hi, need advice quick as my 18month old monster has swallowed 10p in a little act of defiance. cant get through to nshdirect and their internet thing isnt working.. my auntie says that they dont do anything in the hospital but tell you to wait so dont know whether to go or not... any advice what is the best course of action would be greatly appreciated. she seems fine btw. thanks


How is she, has there been any change

i can't understand why people ask for emergency medical advice on a chat forum

sorry but :loopy: :loopy:

hope ur kid is ok

i used to swallow coins for a laugh in the school dinner queue but i was in early teens not 18 months so had considerably bigger colon etc!

I once swallowed a 20p piece when using my Inhaler.
How on earth did that happen?

i can't understand why people ask for emergency medical advice on a chat forum

sorry but :loopy: :loopy: not going to defend this one again as i think i already did... and as it was the quickest response i could get from anyone at the time (thanks guys) i dont think it was that bad an idea. i didnt know if it was really an emergency etc.

My inhalers were in my workbag and the cap would keep coming off, because there was money in there as well a 20p peice got lodged insde the mouthpiece. Im always in a rush at work so I just picked it up without realising and inhaled.

not going to defend this one again as i think i already did... and as it was the quickest response i could get from anyone at the time (thanks guys) i dont think it was that bad an idea. i didnt know if it was really an emergency etc.


....and what about the coin? has it turned up?

i can't understand why people ask for emergency medical advice on a chat forum

sorry but :loopy: :loopy:

hope ur kid is ok

i used to swallow coins for a laugh in the school dinner queue but i was in early teens not 18 months so had considerably bigger colon etc!

Perhaps because it wasn't an emergency? :suspect:

I have a 19 month old son and if you'd ever seen the size of his poos you'd know that the colon of a child of that age is more than capable of passing a ten pence piece!

Note the panic was from those without kids or with grown up kids who have forgot just how big little kids can poo! :P

well furry muff, i've never seen the poo of an 18 month old

having no idea of the size of the exit hole or conducting channel of the poo of an 18 month old young un, i was concerned at the idea of an 18 month old young un swallowing a 10p piece, but now i know not to worry

i was referring to other posts and posters too with that statement

the "Ooh tell me all the answers SF" post recently posted by defstef nails it for me :hihi:

Perhaps because it wasn't an emergency? :suspect:

I have a 19 month old son and if you'd ever seen the size of his poos you'd know that the colon of a child of that age is more than capable of passing a ten pence piece!

Note the panic was from those without kids or with grown up kids who have forgot just how big little kids can poo! :P
But the child could have vomited as well, and choked on it coming out. Just because it went down the right way didn't mean it would automatically come back the right way.