I have a nifty little electronic recording set up in a rehearsal room in Sheffield and have recently finished a couple of projects I've been working on with singers I've known for years. I'll shortly be reaching the "now what?" stage.
Rather than start doing instrumental music or spending hours processing my own voice to make it sound listenable, I thought it'd be nice to work with someone new; maybe a vocalist who writes their own words and music, perhaps even one who does music in a totally different genre.

The problem is that I don't know where to start looking for one who has the same complete lack of ambition as me. I don't want a record deal, don't want to make money, don't even want to play live. All I'd like to do is produce a few songs purely as a bit of fun without worrying about finishing them in a fixed amount of time.

So where would I find a singer who doesn't want to be on pop idol, is entirely attitude-free and is more interested in creativity than celebrity?

If you're that singer, or knows someone who is, pm me; though it'll probably take me a week or two to reply........

i'll give it a blast i just enjoy singing i wouldnt mind a copy of anything we do just for my own house

What kind of stuf is it?

Do you have lyrics?

What kind of stuf is it?

Do you have lyrics?

Well the idea is to start with a blank sheet of paper and try to get out of a creative rut, so although I do write lyrics occasionally, I prefer singers who write their own as they tend to sing their own words a lot more naturally.
It is however a wholly electronic computer-based set-up; but of course you can get computers to sound like pretty much any kind of music these days.....



pm me if interested and we'll arrange a meeting (as i work in Leeds and my music room's in Sheffield this would have to be on a weekday evening after 6pm)

Any room for a lazy unambitious guitarist? I also have friends with a similar approach to bass, drums, sax etc...

Any room for a lazy unambitious guitarist? I also have friends with a similar approach to bass, drums, sax etc...

Why would I need a real guitarist when I've got a Virtual one on my PC? Not only does it play in time, it doesn't set fire to the Dyson...... ;)

Hi Basil,
(I'm not actually Jacqui but her husband)
You have described what I am very accurately! I write my own music and am told that I sing reasonably well. Myself and a friend have been practising together in Sheffield for about a year but have not played in public although eventually we aim to do a pub gig or similar. We are currently discussing recording for fun but haven't got beyond discussion apart from some live unedited recordings using Cubase software. We both enjoy creating music and jamming as well as coming up with finished pieces from time to time.
I play the guitar and trumpet my friend plays guitar and violin. If this sounds interesting I'd like to hear from you.
Paul

I'm interested in this. I'm suffering with writers block but me and gaz bhuna could come and, at the very least, do some nice harmonies (beach boys, flaming lips, sfa type stuff).

Just ignore the above! The man has arrive! My lack of ambition is legendary - I should have been famous years ago but I really cant be arsed! I am a famous hermit! But i sound so good!:o

(amn't a singer or anything, just wanted to say that this thread title makes me smile each time it pops up on screen - and then to read the 'im lazier than you' stuff in the comments ... it's just class!! hope it works out well for all involved !)

wouldn't it be great if an internet forum thread concerning a bunch of guys that can't be arsed to get off their arse produced a classic timepiece of our times.

or something.

wouldn't it be great if an internet forum thread concerning a bunch of guys that can't be arsed to get off their arse produced a classic timepiece of our times.

or something.ooo ambitious!

i'm already feeling tired after that. and a little bit peckish.

Im not even replying im so unambitious - DOH!

In the spirit of this thread, I'm so lazy that I've only just got round to re-reading it.

I'm hopefully meeting a singing forummer tomorrow so we'll see how that goes.

It would be nice to do lots of 'one-off' songs with different singers, so I'll be in touch with the others who've expressed an interest in this thread. Needless to say, I'm so lazy and unambitious that I can't promise how soon this will be....;)

Just out of interest how do you get a virtual guitarist on your pc ?

sounds ace

Just out of interest how do you get a virtual guitarist on your pc ?

sounds ace

It's a software instrument made up of samples of real guitars (both acoustic and electric) that 'strums' in time to your songs (you need a sequencer like Cubase to interface with it). It only has a finite number of styles, but it is fun to play and is great for winding up real guitarists when you tell them they can be replaced by a computer!

More details here....

http://www.bornemark.se/vg/index.htm

Great stuff - that looks fun as well as useful !

Would definitely be interested in talking to you about a few projects that fit in with your criteria

miniminch = jack black meets russel brand on speed!

miniminch = jack black meets russel brand on speed!

BasilRathbon = gordon brown meets russel grant on valium so i'm sure we'll get on fine!

I'd just like to apologise to anyone who expressed an interest when I started this thread, as I only ever got round to contacting one person. I wasn't joking about being lazy, was I?

If anyone's vaguely interested in doing some singing and has no concept of time, you know how to contact me......

Another brief update to this one; I've been back working with my old singer on reworking old stuff of late but still think it would be nice to find a new one to do the odd recordding session with.

My apologies to those who PMed me first or even second time round; unfortunately I had a PM spring clean and deleted your messages but as it's been well over a year, you'd probably forgotten about it anyway.

Any new takers?

The only thing I sing is my own praises. I am very good at that though.

I wrote and recorded at home about 25 songs that I planned to do with different singers...didn't get very as they are troublesome characters to get to commit to a spare day or two.

just like the screaming voices...the songs remain in my head.

Another brief update to this one; I've been back working with my old singer on reworking old stuff of late but still think it would be nice to find a new one to do the odd recordding session with.

My apologies to those who PMed me first or even second time round; unfortunately I had a PM spring clean and deleted your messages but as it's been well over a year, you'd probably forgotten about it anyway.

Any new takers? In other words you are that lazy that you think you can keep putting posts on here about what you require and then not have the decency to even reply to the poeple that were interested??? If anyone has got any sence i would recommend finding another band to sing in, that uses real instruments..Im not sure where the op gets off thinking he gets one up on the real guitar players cos he can use a pc, id feel a right plank asking someone to come and sing in my band, that i cant play an instrument in, and then having the cheek to think that his crap idea wud actually annoy a real instrumentalist? I dont play any instruments but would be far prouder of myself if i could, than i would knowing that i was putting someother real guitar players music together and calling it my own... How untalented is this lazey band anyway???

I wrote and recorded at home about 25 songs that I planned to do with different singers...didn't get very as they are troublesome characters to get to commit to a spare day or two.

just like the screaming voices...the songs remain in my head.

I was looking forward to hearing the final version of the "Don't gimme love" song - a great achievement on your part Theo getting a member of OMW to actually do some 'work'!

I was looking forward to hearing the final version of the "Don't gimme love" song - a great achievement on your part Theo getting a member of OMW to actually do some 'work'!

I second that! OMW! are one of the slackest acts I've seen, and yet they always draw a crowd...:suspect:

In other words you are that lazy that you think you can keep putting posts on here about what you require and then not have the decency to even reply to the poeple that were interested??? If anyone has got any sence i would recommend finding another band to sing in, that uses real instruments..Im not sure where the op gets off thinking he gets one up on the real guitar players cos he can use a pc, id feel a right plank asking someone to come and sing in my band, that i cant play an instrument in, and then having the cheek to think that his crap idea wud actually annoy a real instrumentalist? I dont play any instruments but would be far prouder of myself if i could, than i would knowing that i was putting someother real guitar players music together and calling it my own... How untalented is this lazey band anyway???

Hehe. . You needs to shush yer ill informed chops.

Were does it say that Basil is in a band?
Infact, I'd say Bas has stipulated specifically his requirements to the letter.

Unambitious, lazy and pretty much for the fun is the target audience required.

Also, talent is as talent does. You either has it or you doesn't. Choose a third meaningless cliche and take with water after food. Without meeting the chap in person, how can you cast such monumetous aspersions on his level of talent.

I could big him up, having met up with him for this very reason, but I don't need to.

His integrity from this site alone speaks volumes incomparison to your neglegable contribution.

Hehe. . You needs to shush yer ill informed chops.

Were does it say that Basil is in a band?
Infact, I'd say Bas has stipulated specifically his requirements to the letter.

Unambitious, lazy and pretty much for the fun is the target audience required.

Also, talent is as talent does. You either has it or you doesn't. Choose a third meaningless cliche and take with water after food. Without meeting the chap in person, how can you cast such monumetous aspersions on his level of talent.

I could big him up, having met up with him for this very reason, but I don't need to.

His integrity from this site alone speaks volumes incomparison to your neglegable contribution.Im not ill informed i read with my own eyes that this lazey guy enjoys to annoy the real guitar players, and i also saw with my own eyes where he says he is sorry for not responding to other pms from his last two times with about a year apart... I personally wouldnt have the cheek to keep asking people to pm if hes to lazey to respond to them, apart from anything its rude, and also it shows how easily he can be side tracked and throw these peeps aside who have genuenlly tried to help him out.... He needs it too by all accounts! As for the rest of what u wrote it doesnt seem to mean anything with regards to what my origonal post said so i will leave it at that for now. Apart from his target audience being lazey.... where in his or my posts were audiences mentioned? No i stand by what i said, its all talentless, pretend music similar to what i played on my organ when i was 6... MORRISSEY... now theres a talented man for ya!:thumbsup:

Im not ill informed i read with my own eyes that this lazey guy enjoys to annoy the real guitar players, and i also saw with my own eyes where he says he is sorry for not responding to other pms from his last two times with about a year apart... I personally wouldnt have the cheek to keep asking people to pm if hes to lazey to respond to them, apart from anything its rude, and also it shows how easily he can be side tracked and throw these peeps aside who have genuenlly tried to help him out.... He needs it too by all accounts! As for the rest of what u wrote it doesnt seem to mean anything with regards to what my origonal post said so i will leave it at that for now. Apart from his target audience being lazey.... where in his or my posts were audiences mentioned? No i stand by what i said, its all talentless, pretend music similar to what i played on my organ when i was 6... MORRISSEY... now theres a talented man for ya!:thumbsup:

roomsealed, you've KILLED this thread with your unreadable rant! I was enjoying it too. What's Morrissey got to do with anything anyway?

roomsealed, you've KILLED this thread with your unreadable rant! I was enjoying it too. What's Morrissey got to do with anything anyway?Haha thats a joke right?? The op has little life in himself judging by his enthusiasm for real music, not to mention his enthusiasm that crops up every 12 months for someone to get him out of his rut, by posting on here, then ignoring them in return, very nice of him that int it ey?

Sorry that you found it difficult to read my post though i dont see where the problem is, it seems readable to me, and infact you yourself seemed to be able to read it as you asked me a question about it... How odds that then?

As for mozza..... just giving an example of a hard working singer/song writer since the 80's, he got where he is with hard work though...oh and a couple of real instruments thrown in for good measure... I dont know why everyone is getting so irate about my oppinion, music comes from instruments end of, anything else and ur a fake music wannabe... I would love to stay and chat but iv got "triangle" practise now TING.

Haha thats a joke right?? The op has little life in himself judging by his enthusiasm for real music, not to mention his enthusiasm that crops up every 12 months for someone to get him out of his rut, by posting on here, then ignoring them in return, very nice of him that int it ey?

Sorry that you found it difficult to read my post though i dont see where the problem is, it seems readable to me, and infact you yourself seemed to be able to read it as you asked me a question about it... How odds that then?

As for mozza..... just giving an example of a hard working singer/song writer since the 80's, he got where he is with hard work though...oh and a couple of real instruments thrown in for good measure... I dont know why everyone is getting so irate about my oppinion, music comes from instruments end of, anything else and ur a fake music wannabe... I would love to stay and chat but iv got "triangle" practise now TING.

I think the problem we have here squire is, you've jumped both feet flying into a personal attack on our beloved basil, essentially calling him a talentless waster, without actual genuine basis for this other than your own self opinion.

We forgives you though. It's probably because the air is a bit thinner way up there on yer high horse.

Haha thats a joke right?? The op has little life in himself judging by his enthusiasm for real music, not to mention his enthusiasm that crops up every 12 months for someone to get him out of his rut, by posting on here, then ignoring them in return, very nice of him that int it ey?

Sorry that you found it difficult to read my post though i dont see where the problem is, it seems readable to me, and infact you yourself seemed to be able to read it as you asked me a question about it... How odds that then?

As for mozza..... just giving an example of a hard working singer/song writer since the 80's, he got where he is with hard work though...oh and a couple of real instruments thrown in for good measure... I dont know why everyone is getting so irate about my oppinion, music comes from instruments end of, anything else and ur a fake music wannabe... I would love to stay and chat but iv got "triangle" practise now TING.


Look, I understand you're still bitter but at the end of the day you simply weren't what I was looking for. Get over it!

No but seriously I didn't restart this thread to continue the "are real instruments better than virtual ones?" - I stumbled across it and thought "Hmm, I've sort of got my enthusiasm back for making music; perhaps I should put out feelers to see if anyone else would like to come and sing for me?" I've already had two very promising PMs.

But for what it's worth I wouldn't even call myself a musician in the conventional sense anyway. I write songs, I use whatever technology is available to me to get the songs to sound as good as they can. I program, I arrange, I produce and yes, I've found that if you're using guitar sounds as a rhythmic texture you can get as convincing a sound from a computer as you can from playing a guitar. I've found that when people listen to music they're mainly concerned with whether they like the tune and the voice of the person singing it rather than working out where the sounds came from.

Perhaps this thread should be moved to the musicians special interest group; I would have put it there myserlf but it didn't exist when I first started this thread in 2006!

Look, I understand you're still bitter but at the end of the day you simply weren't what I was looking for. Get over it!

No but seriously I didn't restart this thread to continue the "are real instruments better than virtual ones?" - I stumbled across it and thought "Hmm, I've sort of got my enthusiasm back for making music; perhaps I should put out feelers to see if anyone else would like to come and sing for me?" I've already had two very promising PMs.

But for what it's worth I wouldn't even call myself a musician in the conventional sense anyway. I write songs, I use whatever technology is available to me to get the songs to sound as good as they can. I program, I arrange, I produce and yes, I've found that if you're using guitar sounds as a rhythmic texture you can get as convincing a sound from a computer as you can from playing a guitar. I've found that when people listen to music they're mainly concerned with whether they like the tune and the voice of the person singing it rather than working out where the sounds came from.

Perhaps this thread should be moved to the musicians special interest group; I would have put it there myserlf but it didn't exist when I first started this thread in 2006!

Ah, I thought his replies gave the impression of a disgruntled / dis-heartened applicant but didn't wanna cast aspersions.

If you has more songs with existing words, I would love another opportunity to record with you. As we discovered last time, I aint much of a song writer and have had more practice / increased confidence since we last hooked up.

Let me know, cheers.

I think the problem we have here squire is, you've jumped both feet flying into a personal attack on our beloved basil, essentially calling him a talentless waster, without actual genuine basis for this other than your own self opinion.

We forgives you though. It's probably because the air is a bit thinner way up there on yer high horse.

So... you're saying he isn't a talentless waster? :huh:

Sounds interesting, Basil - I sing and write my own stuff. I like doing jingles and music for theatre and am in a psychedlic space rock band for purely un-commercial purposes.

I can't p.m. you yet as I just joined the forum.

Cheers. Paul.

Sounds interesting, Basil - I sing and write my own stuff. I like doing jingles and music for theatre and am in a psychedlic space rock band for purely un-commercial purposes.

I can't p.m. you yet as I just joined the forum.

Cheers. Paul.

I'm intrigued; that's 4 replies already in the last day or so. Only one of which was telling me what a lazy talentless waster I am (mind you, that was from my mother).

Incidentally Mr Newman, didn't you have a hit with "Are Friends Electric" back in the 1980s?

I think the problem we have here squire is, you've jumped both feet flying into a personal attack on our beloved basil, essentially calling him a talentless waster, without actual genuine basis for this other than your own self opinion.

We forgives you though. It's probably because the air is a bit thinner way up there on yer high horse.Just because you love basil doesnt mean i have to matey, that would just be "following" and thats a bit sad!! sorry i dont share ur interest though squire! Also i am female in responce to the later post about my supposed audition with baz lol, as i said i prefer real music, si i wouldnt even entertain sharing my amazing vocal abilities on this one, sozza but i love mozza!

Look, I understand you're still bitter but at the end of the day you simply weren't what I was looking for. Get over it!

No but seriously I didn't restart this thread to continue the "are real instruments better than virtual ones?" - I stumbled across it and thought "Hmm, I've sort of got my enthusiasm back for making music; perhaps I should put out feelers to see if anyone else would like to come and sing for me?" I've already had two very promising PMs.

But for what it's worth I wouldn't even call myself a musician in the conventional sense anyway. I write songs, I use whatever technology is available to me to get the songs to sound as good as they can. I program, I arrange, I produce and yes, I've found that if you're using guitar sounds as a rhythmic texture you can get as convincing a sound from a computer as you can from playing a guitar. I've found that when people listen to music they're mainly concerned with whether they like the tune and the voice of the person singing it rather than working out where the sounds came from.

Perhaps this thread should be moved to the musicians special interest group; I would have put it there myserlf but it didn't exist when I first started this thread in 2006! I think i made it clear in my last post what my reply is to ur opening line lol..... All the rest of it just sounds like pure bone idleness, why not learn to play an instrument, then you might find more people than 4 reply to ur posts?

I think i made it clear in my last post what my reply is to ur opening line lol..... All the rest of it just sounds like pure bone idleness, why not learn to play an instrument, then you might find more people than 4 reply to ur posts?

Becuase I'm interested in songwriting, arranging and producing, not instrumental dexterity.

Just becuase you can type doesn't mean to say you can write a brilliant novel, know what I'm saying? ;)

I sing in the shower.. SOME PEOPLE CALL ME THE SPAAYUCCE COWBOY

Becuase I'm interested in songwriting, arranging and producing, not instrumental dexterity.

Just becuase you can type doesn't mean to say you can write a brilliant novel, know what I'm saying? ;)
in other words..your not cut out for this.

in other words..your not cut out for this.

That's right - I'm not cut out for making a living out of music! Whether I have the talent or not is for those who hear my music to decide, but in terms of being cut out for a musical career I lack the self-discipline, ambition and work ethic. If only I'd mentioned that earlier in the thread and not led people on....oh hang on, I did!

Even though I'm not sure why you keep coming on this thread when it's about finding a lazy, unambitious singer and you're neither lazy, unambitious or a singer, I do like the cut of your jibb, young lady. How about we meet up for a pint and discuss our differing musical theories? ;)

I keep comming back to the thread so i can reply to the posts aimed at me.. My rant earlier was more about the lack of real instruments and the lack of replies that you admitted you had failed to give to the people who had expressed an interest in joining you. What ever floats ur boat tho i guess. I only drink pints of vodka and my theories wont be any different but can try.... What does "cut of your jibb" actually mean, it sounds like butchers tripe to me...

I keep comming back to the thread so i can reply to the posts aimed at me.. My rant earlier was more about the lack of real instruments and the lack of replies that you admitted you had failed to give to the people who had expressed an interest in joining you. What ever floats ur boat tho i guess. I only drink pints of vodka and my theories wont be any different but can try.... What does "cut of your jibb" actually mean, it sounds like butchers tripe to me...

What do you mean by "real instruments"?!! What is an unreal instrument?!! Surely if it exists, it's real, whether it be a guitar, a cello, a Jewish harp, a drum machine, a PC or a stylophone? As far as I'm aware, all these things exist, and can be used to make music, therefore all are "real instruments"!!

What do you mean by "real instruments"?!! What is an unreal instrument?!! Surely if it exists, it's real, whether it be a guitar, a cello, a Jewish harp, a drum machine, a PC or a stylophone? As far as I'm aware, all these things exist, and can be used to make music, therefore all are "real instruments"!!
No there not... I think if you ask Basil he will tell you his self that he does not stand there strumming his pc

Well not under these circumstances anyway...

Maybe there not "real" instruments, but they can be classed as "experimentalist" or in basils case - a mentalist :)

Methinks the lady roomsealed aint ever going to 'get it' dear. Shame about the tension though.

You should stick this up on www.sheffieldsounds.com forums - lots of waster musicians (in the loosest sense) hanging around online looking for new ways to waste their precious time and honing their virtual craft. There are some REAL dark kids on there....

No i wont ever get it.. I once sent my lovely other half to fetch my son a drum kit, you know a propper one, he came home with some plastic ****e that was to be plugged into a pc..... I took it back in favour of real drums... However as for tension i disagree, this forum is free for debates and my debate is that this isnt real music with real talent,as no one can actually play an instrument and dont hold any personal grudge against the op or anyone else who i have responded to.

... and dont hold any personal grudge against the op or anyone else who i have responded to.

Don't hold a grudge against the OP?!?!

You called him a talentless waster! ...Oh no, I did, sorry. As you were.

Someone with talent can make music from anything, including a computer.

Don't hold a grudge against the OP?!?!

You called him a talentless waster! ...Oh no, I did, sorry. As you were.No I dont hold a grudge, why would i hold a grudge against someone i have never laid eyes on? it is purely my oppinion as I said earlier.:thumbsup:

No there not... I think if you ask Basil he will tell you his self that he does not stand there strumming his pc

You wouldnt strum a drumkit or a flute - they must not be real instruments either.

You wouldnt strum a drumkit or a flute - they must not be real instruments either.

That was just a post wanting to get in on the action...unfortunatly it makes you seem so thick that you cant work out for urself what i was "generally" refering to..... No u dont strum a flute love...

That was just a post wanting to get in on the action...unfortunatly it makes you seem so thick that you cant work out for urself what i was "generally" refering to..... No u dont strum a flute love...

Or maybe, just maybe, they were examplifying the pedantry that you have shown us all.

Just throwin' it out there. A suggestion. That's all it is. Nothin' more to it.

I play guitar and (try) keyboard....yet I use computers to help record the music and even have recorded a chord with my guitar then copy and pasted it all over the place due to lazyness ..... its not about 'real' instruments vs. computers....they should be used in conjunction.

Or maybe, just maybe, they were examplifying the pedantry that you have shown us all.

Just throwin' it out there. A suggestion. That's all it is. Nothin' more to it.I think that you are all doing what room wants you to and getting peeved for something that you wont ever be able to change, if thats her oppinion then thats her oppinion is it not? I think also if you look from the start she was talking about the rudeness of the op not getting back to people on two occasions spaced out over a long period, and to be honest I think if I was one of those people that had been ignored then I would be annoyed also so i think she has a valid point

I think she also has a valid point with the instrument bit because it is far more exiting to know you have made the music for yourself, or so i find anyways! Seriously though there comes a time when you have to think that people are just trying to get to us, and so far most on this thread seem to have fallen for it.

A final point I would like to make is that I do hope the op all the best in his little musical adventure but please try to think of others who are interested when you are posting and then not returning, to some this could be what they have been craving for so long... Perhaps room was one of them and feels bitter, or perhaps her points are to be addressed before attacking her.

I play guitar and (try) keyboard....yet I use computers to help record the music and even have recorded a chord with my guitar then copy and pasted it all over the place due to lazyness ..... its not about 'real' instruments vs. computers....they should be used in conjunction. Again for this comment, it is not relevent to anything as room seemed to talking about people who couldnt play an instrument at all. I play bass and also use a pc to help with things, but am proud to know i made the music myself.

I play guitar and (try) keyboard....yet I use computers to help record the music and even have recorded a chord with my guitar then copy and pasted it all over the place due to lazyness ..... its not about 'real' instruments vs. computers....they should be used in conjunction.

That's kinda what I thought. I didn't think there was that much one-upmanship in music, as most music-types i've met have had a varied level of skill / talent. I haven't seen anyone jealous of someone else. On that same token, I haven't seen many peeps disliking others for not being as good as them or for not conforming to their ideals.

If you are better than me, fine. You've will have probably put in a lot more time and effort to get to that stage and congrats for it. By no means would I ever consider shouting down someone elses talents just because they don't meet up to or match mine.

This tends to give the impression that you're trying to make yourself look good by making others appear bad and this could explain why there has been a number of similiar replies directed specifically at roomclosed.

Again for this comment, it is not relevent to anything as room seemed to talking about people who couldnt play an instrument at all. I play bass and also use a pc to help with things, but am proud to know i made the music myself.

I have no idea how proficient on an instrument many of the electro / dance artists I like are. Can the men from Daft Punk play slow melodic guitar solos in the phrygian scale? Dunno! Can Ralf Hutter of Kraftwerk play breakneck speed solos on the kazoo? Dunno! How about Mr. Aphex Twin - can he do 5 minute long drum solos at 180bpm? As for Juan Atkins and his fellow Detroi techno pioneers and their respective abilities to orchestrate a harpsichord ensemble - I'm not even gonna go there. What I do know is this: their talent lies in making great music using the tools of their respective trade. These tools are largely electronic, such as PCs, samplers, drum machines, etc. This is a talent in itself, and just as valid as being able to play on of these so called "real instruments". In fact, most people can learn an instrument, but writing original music - whether on guitar or PC - is a rarer talent. I'd rather see an original electronic based act than a tedious covers band playing "real" instruments anyway.

Let's nab some New Labour rhetoric, and go for the Third Way!

Sorry but i still kinda agree with what room said, maybe its just that you are taking it the wrong way, cos where she is chilled with her responces and seemingly honest that there is no malice involved everyone is attacking her views, and you cant expect everyone to think what you are doing is right or wrong. My advice would be for anyone in this industry that if you cant take critisism then you should be doing something else with your time as it is bound to happen thru out the duration.

This thread has been moved to the totally wrong place........ It clearly says "do you play an instrument" the answer is no lol.. Well thanks spirit for trying to explain me, im starting to wonder if you were on the "council homes/holiday homes" thread lol, u seem to know me better than i do. Apart from the bit about me being one of those he turned down/didnt respond to. I wasnt even a member of this forum when baz was popping on every couple of years building the hopes up of those around him. I agree about having to be able to have others critisise you though, most would see it as a good thing, as not all our wrong doings are as noticable to us as they are to others, hence beng able to build on what you think will and will not work. Even the smiths made simple mistakes thru not listening...look what happened when they decided their music was never going to have a video made with it...

This thread is barmy.

Seriously.

Hi,
Singer-songwriter - not entirely lacking in ambition! but with no need to impose it on you! - would be interested to learn from/use your recording set up if you'd be interested to hear/record my stuff.

...Tracey Chapman/Indigo girls/Tracey Thorn... style

Let me know if you could do with a short burst of productivity!!!!

Chrystine.

Well, who would have thought the resurrection of a half-hearted thread from 2006 would have attracted such controversy?

Anyway, I've come back from a couple of days off the forum to find I have no less than 6 different singers expressing a vague interest in working on some music with me. However, none of them have actually heard any of my music as yet, so I'm currently in the process of setting up a myspace site where you'll all be able to hear some of the stuff I've done with my previous singer. I will of course be PMing each one individually (if that's all right with you, roomsealed! :P ) and if we find common ground then I'll be happy to invite them down to my shared rehearsal room (separately, unless they all fancy forming The Basil Rathbon Choir).

As for the real instrument debate that has raged throughout the past couple of pages, you may be surprised to know that I can play a real instrument, I just choose not to. In my youth I had piano lessons and passed the grade 1,2, 3 and 4 exams (it goes up to grade 8, so that makes me averagely competent rather than a virtuoso, but a proper musician nonetheless).

Round about 1990 it all changed when I discovered computer based sequencers. Suddenly I realised didn't need to be a musician to get my ideas across. If I couldn't play in time I could slow the recording tempo down and then speed it up. I could make mistakes and then subsequently correct them. I didn't even need to play those difficult black keys - I could play everything in C major or A minor and just click the "transpose" button. Best of all I could program parts that no real musican could ever be able to play. As a consequence, my instrumental skills diminished to the point that I was far more comfortable playing a computer keyboard than a piano one.

Technological advances mean that for me and any other forward-thinking musician, the only limitation now really is your imagination. You can now use any sound you can hear in your music, whether it's a virtual guitar, a virtual choir or the sound of tibetan yaks mating.
Given the choice between that and the lumpen, dated pub-rock of Morrissey that my harshest critic on this thread is so fond of, I know which I prefer........

So come on then. Don't keep us in suspense, which one is it?

It's Morrisey I reckon, "Why do I smile at people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?" :)

So come on then. Don't keep us in suspense, which one is it?

It's Morrisey I reckon, "Why do I smile at people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?" :)
I prefer the song "RING LEADER OF THE TORMENTORS":love:

[QUOTE=BasilRathbon;4571246]Well, who would have thought the resurrection of a half-hearted thread from 2006 would have attracted such controversy?

Anyway, I've come back from a couple of days off the forum to find I have no less than 6 different singers expressing a vague interest in working on some music with me. However, none of them have actually heard any of my music as yet, so I'm currently in the process of setting up a myspace site where you'll all be able to hear some of the stuff I've done with my previous singer. I will of course be PMing each one individually (if that's all right with you, roomsealed! :P )

Yes baz luv thats fine by me, can you let me know what year you plan on replying so i can sign in under the name i pm,d you in lol...

Seriosly though now i am truly proud of your piano skills, i can play the chop sticks very well indeed, and i look forward to hearing your music, i was going to mention yesterday if it was poss to hear some of it, do let me know wont you, i want to swept away by the chords of your pc, and i will give you my honest oppinion without harrassing you for not playing!

That was just a post wanting to get in on the action...unfortunatly it makes you seem so thick that you cant work out for urself what i was "generally" refering to..... No u dont strum a flute love...

I'm pretty sure you can strum a pink flute...

Or would you pluck it?

Or would you pluck it?
Dont be daft...you would blow it of course...:love:

Now then now then, lads and lasses. Assuming it's worked successfully I have finally managed to get some of my music online - if you'd like to hear it please head for the following url;

www.myspace.com/planetsoddingbliss

The band was actually called Planet Bliss, but some git has already registered that name on Myspace. Enjoy. Well maybe not enjoy........tolerate.

Hey! Hey! Peace and 'harmony' has broken out.

And a little sexual innuendo....for 'good measure'. OOOeeer missus.

What a result.

Chris

Im your number 1 fan

I'd like to point out that despite your disdain for real instruments there appears to be a real electric guitar in your MySpaz song 'Half A Woman'

Otherwise, good stuff, with a suitably sexy sounding singer. You Grade 4 muso you.

Incidentally Mr Newman, didn't you have a hit with "Are Friends Electric" back in the 1980s?

Not me, sadly. :-)