Cant believe it, took my driving test for the 2nd time this morning, and FAILED, I am absolutely gutted. :( :(
Got a serious mark (which is classed as an automatic fail) - stalled the car twice at the junction of Leppings Lane Roundabout. It may just have been nerves, y'know, cos we had just left the test centre, and was still a bit nervous, well who isn't on the driving test?
Held up traffic, and missed a couple of oppurtunities to pull away.
ABSOLUTELY WELL AND TRULY F****D OFF!!
What does everyone else think? was this a little harsh or what?
The first test I got 2 serious marks, went through an amber light, didnt put my foot down to beat the lights, they changed as I went through, and to brake would have almost been an emergency stop!
The second serious was because I swung to far out whilst reversing round a corner.:(
Ok, I know at the end of the day, there is a certain standard to pass, but some of the motorists I see on the road- Jesus- their standard of driving is almost laughable!

For what it's worth I failed 4 times and passed on my 5th attempt back in 1988 or '89. I failed twice on 'Undue hesitancy' - sounds like the problem you had. And in retrospect the examiner was spot on. The automatic fail for the stall seemed a little harsh, but, rules is rules, I guess. That would be covered by 'not having control of the car'.

Looking back on it I certainly wasn't of test standard on the first 3 attempts, and made a daft error on attempt 4.

But the fifth one was where it came together - I was confident I knew what I was doing, the road conditions (a very low winter sun) were a bit unfriendly but I got it together.

It will come - don't worry! When you pass your test you rarely know how to drive; you know how to pass the test. Driving experience will give you the extra skills, although you'll also acquire lazy and bad habits. :)

awwh sorry to hear that. going through the amber light shouldnt of failed you i dont think, as long as you didnt have time to safely stop. i know what you mean about the standard of lots of drivers - i wonder how they ever passed there test. better luck next time.

Bad luck, driving test nerves are really bad aren't they? Unfortunately, eaminers are very strict these days, but you are quite right when you say that some drivers on the road are not fit to be behind a wheel. Better luck next time. x

Aww sorry to hear you've not passed..:(

I failed my test 3 times and passed on the 4th and touch wood, fingers crossed and all that stuff, I've NEVER had an accident (yet) and I've been driving 10 years now.

I failed my first test for going through probably the same set of lights on amber! Instructor says that as i hit the line they went red so it was a fail. I argued that i couldnt have safely stopped, but his response was "you should have pre-emted the lights and slowed before they changed"...whatever!

Good luck on your next try! Just try to relax a bit more, and see it as another lesson.

Thanks guys.:)
It costs me around £100 to retake the test, which includes 3 lessons, and the cost of the test (lesson + test =2 lessons)
Dont know how longer I can afford this!!:(

When I took my test, my hand was shaking so much I couldn't sign my name. When I had to read the number plate, I couldn't even see the car the guy was referring to, so I just stuttered out some random characters; it seemed to satisfy him so maybe he couldn't see it properly either. When we got in the car, my hand was shaking so much I couldn't get the key in for what seemed like minutes.

At some point the adrenalin kicked in and I channelled that nervous energy into getting everything spot on for the rest of the test. The point being, being nervous can be a good thing if you are able to channel it so that it works for you.

Good luck when you retake!

I failed my first test for going through probably the same set of lights on amber! Instructor says that as i hit the line they went red so it was a fail. I argued that i couldnt have safely stopped, but his response was "you should have pre-emted the lights and slowed before they changed"...whatever!

Good luck on your next try! Just try to relax a bit more, and see it as another lesson.
In my circumstances, the light had just turned to amber as I went through it.
These were the lights up on Halifax Rd just before the superbowl lights.
I hate Halifax Rd.:hihi:
Think maybe I'll take it at Handsworth next time, tho' the test centre at Middlewood is only 5 mins away!

i have a friend who failed her first test by turning the wrong way up a one way street, straight into a lorry.

at least you didn't do that.

i have a friend who failed her first test by turning the wrong way up a one way street, straight into a lorry.

at least you didn't do that.
cant see why she should fail- she was only going one way!!!:hihi: :hihi: :o :D

Think of it as being one step closer to passing. I failed my first one then passed the second.
It's annoying but of course you still learn from the mistakes and surely it will make you a better driver in the end result.
My fella failed first time too.
Good luck for next time.

In my circumstances, the light had just turned to amber as I went through it.
These were the lights up on Halifax Rd just before the superbowl lights.
I hate Halifax Rd.:hihi:


Ditto!

Spoooky :suspect:

Ditto!

Spoooky :suspect:
hmm, maybe the examiner has a "magic button" to change the lights to test your reaction and see what you do!!:suspect:
:hihi: :hihi:

I failed twice and then passed on my 3rd time. I took the 1st two at Handsworth and the 3rd at Hillsborough. I have to say I found the people at the Hillsborough test centre a lot more friendler. On my test I went around 1 roundabout, up that 60mph hill and then my final manouvre was back at the test centre when i had to reverse in a space, I was the 1st one back so used the lfaint line that's there, and I passed!!! :-)

I feel your pain my friend, im incredibly convinced i have no chance of passing anyway.. :( Think its just a case of perseverance!

I failed twice and then passed on my 3rd time. I took the 1st two at Handsworth and the 3rd at Hillsborough. I have to say I found the people at the Hillsborough test centre a lot more friendler. On my test I went around 1 roundabout, up that 60mph hill and then my final manouvre was back at the test centre when i had to reverse in a space, I was the 1st one back so used the lfaint line that's there, and I passed!!! :-)
the 2 manoeuvres I had was the turn in the road (3 point turn) which I also had on my 1st test, and the reverse parking into the bay as well, I had to choose bay 3 as all the others were taken, so mine was the hardest i would say than the others, to bay park between 2 other parked cars, but it was sweet.
Pity the examiner failed me tho.
Well, sh** happens, I'll just pick myself up, dust myself down and get on with it.:)

the 2 manoeuvres I had was the turn in the road (3 point turn) which I also had on my 1st test, and the reverse parking into the bay as well, I had to choose bay 3 as all the others were taken, so mine was the hardest i would say than the others, to bay park between 2 other parked cars, but it was sweet.
Pity the examiner failed me tho.
Well, sh** happens, I'll just pick myself up, dust myself down and get on with it.:)

I just though well the worst that can happen is a failure, so just keep trying.

Get yourself booked back in hun and keep your chin up. :D

I just though well the worst that can happen is a failure, so just keep trying.

Get yourself booked back in hun and keep your chin up. :D
Thanks, got to wait 10 working days before I can retake it, so I'll put in for my 3rd attempt tomorrow, then keep checking DSA website for cancellations, obviously I cant take one till 16th Nov at the earliest, then change it to 16th or after if any comes up.
I am determined not to let it get me down too much.:) :P

I passed first time, much to my surprise, as I didn't think I have performed particularly well. I remember bumping a kerb and thinking that's it - I've failed. When the examiner told me I had passed, I could hardly take it in at first. I knew that I still had a lot to learn about driving

if you can stall the car twice, it shows you are not ready to drive yet, please have another 20 lesson so it will be safer for us road user

if you can stall the car twice, it shows you are not ready to drive yet, please have another 20 lesson so it will be safer for us road user

How rude.....theres a thing called nerves, you get them when having a driving test. Stalling the car is not a dangerous thing, i still see people doing it on the road now, in fact and middle aged guy did it in front of me this morning on my way to work. Have some patience with people.

Daft question I'm sure, but couldn't you take your tests in an automatic, then you wouldn't have to worry about stalling ?

I've been driving 40 years but I know I would never be able to pass a test in the UK by the sounds of it all.:o , I think the real lessons start after you've passed and your'e on your own.

Also do you have to pay for the whole lot of lesson again if you fail, or do you just re-take the test itself ?

My 1st Test - I was failed for indicating too near a bus stop!?! 2nd Test - Nerves killed me when I had 3 people in the car (2 examiners, and a regional supervisors).

My 3rd test lasted 10 minutes, I drove s**t, had a page full of minors, but passed as the examiner just yapped on about his daughter comin home from uni for the weekend! :loopy:

If it makes you feel any better,I stopped my first test after 15 minutes(I knew I had failed!)and refused to carry on,the examiner had to walk back to the test centre to tell my instructor to come and get me!!

How rude.....theres a thing called nerves, you get them when having a driving test. Stalling the car is not a dangerous thing, i still see people doing it on the road now, in fact and middle aged guy did it in front of me this morning on my way to work. Have some patience with people.
it sounds like he will do that aswell, how did you feel when the idiot infront of you stall and you had to wait for another light change because the fool cant drive! if he stalls on a flat road what fun will people have when he comes to a steep hill start! one mistake in 30 minutes is one too many , only takes one mistake to kill another motorist , the test should be 100% mistake feel, if he cant concertate for 30 minutes whats going to happen if he drives to LONDON

it sounds like he will do that aswell, how did you feel when the idiot infront of you stall and you had to wait for another light change because the fool cant drive! if he stalls on a flat road what fun will people have when he comes to a steep hill start! one mistake in 30 minutes is one too many , only takes one mistake to kill another motorist , the test should be 100% mistake feel, if he cant concertate for 30 minutes whats going to happen if he drives to LONDON
You can hardly call a new driver a 'fool who cant drive' people need to learn not to fly off the handle if they are delayed 30 seconds due to someone stalling, its not the end of the world. Plus in some ways Sheffield is as bad to drive in as London is!

Daft question I'm sure, but couldn't you take your tests in an automatic, then you wouldn't have to worry about stalling ?

If someone passes their test in an automatic here they aren't allowed to drive a manual. The test here is a lot harder than in US, personally I don't think it's hard enough though. Most cars in UK are manual or stick shift as I believe you call them.

You can hardly call a new driver a 'fool who cant drive' people need to learn not to fly off the handle if they are delayed 30 seconds due to someone stalling, its not the end of the world. Plus in some ways Sheffield is as bad to drive in as London is!

Exactly, everyone has been a new driver at some point, so a bit of patience for people doesn't hurt.

I took my nephew out learning to drive on saturday and we had 2 occasions where people blared their horns at us with impatience. Good job road rage is illegal.

If its any consolation to you, I passed my test this year on the 9th attempt!
Mostly it was nerves on all my failures.
I found a little solution for the nerves - its called Bach's remedy - some herbal stuff you put on your tongue (available from Boots or Holland and Barrett) - and it really works! Its only about £3 - give it a try!
Hope you have better luck next time.

9 times!!?? Oh my days.

I think after 3 tries at the test - you should be banned forever. The examiner should probably eject you out of the test car like it was a fighter plane...

Boy would I hang out at the Test Centres ALL DAY waiting to see losers ejected in to the air like clay pigeons.

When I'm in charge, there will be changes.

.....Also do you have to pay for the whole lot of lesson again if you fail, or do you just re-take the test itself ?
No, you only pay for any more lessons you take AFTER you fail, you have to pay for another test, £48.50, and pay your instructor for 2 lessons when you take the test for an hours' lesson before the test and the use of the car during the test.
if you can stall the car twice, it shows you are not ready to drive yet, please have another 20 lesson so it will be safer for us road user
does it really matter how many times a vehicle is stalled, I would imagine that the majority of drivers have stalled their vehicles at some point, and if you get upset/angry at someone stalling in front of you, then maybe its YOU who shouldn't be on the road. Fool. :rolleyes:

.....I found a little solution for the nerves - its called Bach's remedy - some herbal stuff you put on your tongue (available from Boots or Holland and Barrett) - and it really works! Its only about £3 - give it a try!
Hope you have better luck next time.
I bought some about a week before my test after I read it was a help, £6 a little bottle from Boots, but it just seemed to make me want to be sick, uuurrgghh the taste!!
:gag:

some people just shouldn't be on the roads

How rude.....theres a thing called nerves, you get them when having a driving test. Stalling the car is not a dangerous thing, i still see people doing it on the road now, in fact and middle aged guy did it in front of me this morning on my way to work. Have some patience with people.
if someone cannot function correctly when on the roads they should not be driving, ie. person begins crossing road (learner (just passed with 3 serious's-let off with nerves) is driving down road) The nervers takes hold and the "learner" presses on accellerator instead of brake.
BAM spalt, crush *click* - driver, "oops"
person - spread along the road over 500m in 37 bits and 49sq ft of blood covering the floor.
A. the person is you/your child/parent
B. im now held up in traffic jam
C. some poor chap has to clean it up
D. because it happened outside a school at "hometime" about 400 4year olds are nervous recks in need of counciling
F$%^ that

Don't mean to butt in again, but how much do lessons cost, does the instructor decide how many hours you need ? do the schools have some basic driving courses to prepare you ?

ALl sounds too hard to me, I would never pass a test over there .

if someone cannot function correctly when on the roads they should not be driving, ie. person begins crossing road (learner (just passed with 3 serious's-let off with nerves) is driving down road) The nervers takes hold and the "learner" presses on accellerator instead of brake.
BAM spalt, crush *click* - driver, "oops"
person - spread along the road over 500m in 37 bits and 49sq ft of blood covering the floor.
A. the person is you/your child/parent
B. im now held up in traffic jam
C. some poor chap has to clean it up
D. because it happened outside a school at "hometime" about 400 4year olds are nervous recks in need of counciling
F$%^ that
Get real! Learners dont get "let off" if they commit 3 serious errors! Only 1 is needed for a fail. The nerves are usually because the learner is being tested anyway - and once passed, the confidence increases!

it sounds like he will do that aswell, how did you feel when the idiot infront of you stall and you had to wait for another light change because the fool cant drive! if he stalls on a flat road what fun will people have when he comes to a steep hill start! one mistake in 30 minutes is one too many , only takes one mistake to kill another motorist , the test should be 100% mistake feel, if he cant concertate for 30 minutes whats going to happen if he drives to LONDON
Actually the test is 40 minutes! - maybe its you who is the idiot!

Just as a matter of interest, have you never made a mistake? Do you drive 100% perfect ALL the time?

Don't mean to butt in again, but how much do lessons cost, does the instructor decide how many hours you need ? do the schools have some basic driving courses to prepare you ?

ALl sounds too hard to me, I would never pass a test over there .
Lessons can range from £17-£25 per hour, depending on the instructor.
The Driving Standards Agency (DSA) has more info on the Syllabus and what is required.
More Info here. (http://www.dsa.gov.uk/Category.asp?cat=171)

if you can stall the car twice, it shows you are not ready to drive yet, please have another 20 lesson so it will be safer for us road user

obviously you've never driven a vw passatt with electronic handbrake.if you had ,you'd know your taking crap.

obviously you've never driven a vw passatt with electronic handbrake.if you had ,you'd know your taking crap.Not seen that, how does that work?

Not seen that, how does that work?

i have no flippin' idea but then again neither has the car.

no physical handbrake to use.
you start the car , accelerate off and the car releases the hand brake.
only thing is unless you're an expert at clutch control its a right royal pain when setting off.
we've had guys "broke" down on roundabouts, sloping driveways etc.
the Grand Scenic appears to wokr better.

Actually the test is 40 minutes! - maybe its you who is the idiot!

Just as a matter of interest, have you never made a mistake? Do you drive 100% perfect ALL the time?
i do drive perfect all the time 100% mistake free so i hate fools whos not capable to be let loose and cause 90% of the accident on our roads
over 90% of road accident are cause by driver mistake

if someone cannot function correctly when on the roads they should not be driving, ie. person begins crossing road (learner (just passed with 3 serious's-let off with nerves) is driving down road) The nervers takes hold and the "learner" presses on accellerator instead of brake.
BAM spalt, crush *click* - driver, "oops"
person - spread along the road over 500m in 37 bits and 49sq ft of blood covering the floor.
A. the person is you/your child/parent
B. im now held up in traffic jam
C. some poor chap has to clean it up
D. because it happened outside a school at "hometime" about 400 4year olds are nervous recks in need of counciling
F$%^ that

What utter tosh you talk! :rolleyes:
This could apply to anyone - EVEN YOU. They're called MISTAKES. They can happen to anyone, at any time, no matter how long you've been driving.
Tell me, did you hold these views when you were learning to drive? Oh thats right, you've always driven well - passed first time, no minor faults. Yeah, yeah. :rolleyes:

What utter tosh you talk! :rolleyes:
This could apply to anyone - EVEN YOU. They're called MISTAKES. They can happen to anyone, at any time, no matter how long you've been driving.
Tell me, did you hold these views when you were learning to drive? Oh thats right, you've always driven well - passed first time, no minor faults. Yeah, yeah. :rolleyes:
i do always drive well as i been kartibg since the age of 10 and passed first time with no minor mistake at all(the examier coment on it) i am always fully alert of whats around me so no mistake are for muppets who cant drive and stall cars

They're called MISTAKES.

A mistake whilst driving can prove fatal.

There can be no excuse for a mistake when you're driving.

i do always drive well as i been kartibg since the age of 10 and passed first time with no minor mistake at all(the examier coment on it) i am always fully alert of whats around me so no mistake are for muppets who cant drive and stall cars

Always?? You're rather smug arent you? Mistakes happen - thats life. Even the most competant of us can make them. Get off your high horse and accept that we're not all as perfect as your good self. :)

What utter tosh you talk! :rolleyes:
This could apply to anyone - EVEN YOU. They're called MISTAKES. They can happen to anyone, at any time, no matter how long you've been driving.
Tell me, did you hold these views when you were learning to drive? Oh thats right, you've always driven well - passed first time, no minor faults. Yeah, yeah. :rolleyes:They can happen yes and you are allowed 15, yes FIFTEEN minor mistakes and you can still pass. If you still can't pass you need more training. Kingson is a bit extreme with his over confidence though, I wonder how long he's been driving and what he's been driving.

A mistake whilst driving can prove fatal.

There can be no excuse for a mistake when you're driving.

A mistake whilst walking down the road can be fatal if your attention is distracted for a moment or two. It happens. In a perfect world, there would be no mistakes. It'd take a very brave person indeed to admit their attention has not always been focused on the job in hand - be it walking down the road, driving a car or even performing an operation. We're human. We're not infallible.

You're telling me you've never made a mistake, taken your eyes off the road or had your attention distracted whilst driving? If so, I salute you. You are indeed perfect. :thumbsup:

i do always drive well as i been kartibg since the age of 10 and passed first time with no minor mistake at all(the examier coment on it) i am always fully alert of whats around me so no mistake are for muppets who cant drive and stall cars
If you are as good at driving as you are at spelling and grammar, God help us all!

i do always drive well as i been kartibg since the age of 10 and passed first time with no minor mistake at all(the examier coment on it) i am always fully alert of whats around me so no mistake are for muppets who cant drive and stall carsKartibg is about vehicle control, is nothing like driving cars and has no resemblance to conditions on the road. The fact that young kids do it proves that point. Because you are so over confident you will be a very risky person on the road. How old are you?

You're telling me you've never made a mistake, taken your eyes off the road or had your attention distracted whilst driving? If so, I salute you. You are indeed perfect. :thumbsup:
But millions of us manage to drive every day without making any major mistakes. Thats what the test is about. Showing the instructor you can drive round without making too many minor mistakes within a short period of time.

If at first you dont succeed try try again. £100 isnt too much. Its a tiny amount compaired to doing the 12K average a year in even an economical car. A few £££ is definately worth the liberating feeling that being able to drive and having wheels gives. Why else would we not care about poluting the planet if it wasnt worth it. Dont give up now as it will cost you more to pick up and start learing again later.

Kartibg is about vehicle control, is nothing like driving cars and has no resemblance to conditions on the road. The fact that young kids do it proves that point. Because you are so over confident you will be a very risky person on the road. How old are you?
i am 69 never had an accident and i drive 69000 a year

i am 69 never had an accident and i drive 69000 a year
Karting in 1947 then, come on let's be knowing, prove you aren't a novice.

Drivng test instructors have a quota on how many they pass or fail in a day, and have to stick to it.

Drivng test instructors have a quota on how many they pass or fail in a day, and have to stick to it.That's nonsense, where did you get that from and what would be the point? http://www.bsm.co.uk/news/4.html

That's nonsense, where did you get that from and what would be the point? http://www.bsm.co.uk/news/4.html
Mates a driving instructor for BSM, thats how.

Mates a driving instructor for BSM, thats how.Well it's nonsense, we all have mates who say stuff like that. Doesn't say that on their link.

Well it's nonsense, we all have mates who say stuff like that. Doesn't say that on their link.Say stuff like what? Lie? Believe your lovely little link.

Say stuff like what? Lie? Believe your lovely little link.Well it's your mates companys link so one of them is wrong. Lie is a strong word and I didn't use it.

Drivng test instructors have a quota on how many they pass or fail in a day, and have to stick to it.


I have heard that that is a load of rubbish too!

took test for the THIRD TIME

took test for the THIRD TIME this afternoon.
and.........PASSED!!!!!!
:D :D :P :thumbsup: :banana::banana::banana:
Hooray, I am so pleased, looking forward to taking the Test Plus now, to lower my insurance even more!!!
WELL CHUFFED!!!!

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks so much!!!!!:thumbsup:

Have you picked a car yet? Wheres the first place you are going to drive to unsupervised?

Third time lucky!

looking for a Punto, Rover 100, or similiar, gotta be 5 dr tho' cos our first baby's due in April, got money saved up, first place we'll probably go to is our parents to break the news of baby and test passed!!

Mk4 Astra, cheap insurance :D

Congratulations by the way :)

[QUOTE=bobsyouruncle]Cant believe it, took my driving test for the 2nd time this morning, and FAILED, I am absolutely gutted. :( :(
Got a serious mark (which is classed as an automatic fail)

I passed 4th time.

First time i got a 'danger' mark, which is also an automatic fail and a serious mark, the two other times i failed i got the serious marks!!! Oops!

But i'm a great driver!! i think the instructor jsut liked my company and felt the only way to keep me by his side was to keep failing me!!!!


CONGRATULATIONS BY THE WAY !!!

Mates a driving instructor for BSM, thats how.

Instructors have no influence over the test,the result is down to the examiner,so im afraid your mate mate is talking out of his pipe inorder to impress you,,,,guess what it worked:thumbsup:

I have a mate that says if you give examiner a toffee crisp on the day you will pass no problem:hihi:

Hes a driving instructor so it must be true

took test for the THIRD TIME this afternoon.
and.........PASSED!!!!!!
:D :D :P :thumbsup: :banana::banana::banana:
Hooray, I am so pleased, looking forward to taking the Test Plus now, to lower my insurance even more!!!
WELL CHUFFED!!!!

Well done! Really pleased for you! :)

.......I have a mate that says if you give examiner a toffee crisp on the day you will pass no problem:hihi:


toffee crisp. bah humbug!!
everyone knows its a chunky kit-kat these days!! lol:hihi: :hihi: :P

I'm not sure how to break this to kingdon and SCCSUX, probably gently would be wise...

Please be aware that everybody makes mistakes, some of us even make them whilst driving, as I'm sure you both have done... The fact that kingdon in particular is blissfully unaware of the fact is worrying!

Incidentally, I would class being impatient with other drivers as a big mistake! ;)

To minimise your own mistakes, you need to concentrate when driving... to minimise the mistakes of others, you need to drive defensively and assume that all other drivers are idiots until they prove otherwise, that way you have a greater chance of staying in one piece.

To bobsyouruncle... Well Done, perseverance paid off! :)

Now is when you actually start to learn to drive...