Standing at the 48 bus stop at Firth Park on Bellhouse Rd yesterday about 1.10 pm there was a young woman waiting.
She had a child about 3 with her. The child was not misbehaving but just being a 3 year old.

The mother kept on and on calling her bitch. Come here bitch, stop it bitch etc.
I couldn't believe what I was hearing. When the girl stood in Fultons doorway upset the mother told her to p**s off and she would get a good hiding when she got home, bitch.

The child who she actually called by name "Ollie" was not at all phased so obviuosly she must be used to it.

If this person is a member of the forum then I implore you to stop it. How do you think this child is going to grow up as a useful member of society.

Welcome to the sad reality of life.

Standing at the 48 bus stop at Firth Park on Bellhouse Rd yesterday about 1.10 pm there was a young woman waiting.
She had a child about 3 with her. The child was not misbehaving but just being a 3 year old.

The mother kept on and on calling her bitch. Come here bitch, stop it bitch etc.
I couldn't believe what I was hearing. When the girl stood in Fultons doorway upset the mother told her to p**s off and she would get a good hiding when she got home, bitch.

The child who she actually called by name "Ollie" was not at all phased so obviuosly she must be used to it.

If this person is a member of the forum then I implore you to stop it. How do you think this child is going to grow up as a useful member of society.I think this is terrible.It goes through me to hear this kind of talk.Last year I was in a shop,and a woman wheeling her kid in a pushchair told her in a loud voice to "Shut it".I never spoke to my kids like this.And you are right,the kids dont seem upset by the talk,but they must be used to it.Sure it takes their confidence away as they get older though.

Abuse such as this should be on a par with physical abuse. Mothers like that shouldnt be allowed to get away with it.

I CANT BELIEVE THIS. I TOO HAVE A THREE YEAR OLD WHO CAN BE A BIT OF A HANDFULL SOMETIMES, HOWEVER I WOULD NEVER SPEAK TO HIM LIKE THAT NO MATTER WHAT HE IS DOING.........NOT ONLY IS THIS PERSON TEACHING HER CHILD TO BECOME A BULLY ITS ABUSE.:rant: :rant: :rant: :mad: :mad: :mad:

GRRRRRRRRRRR PEOPLE LIKE THIS MAKE ME SOOOOOOO ANGRY.:rant:

I'm so glad that you don't think I'm a "picky pensioner".
It's so sad for the little girl.

not atall - fair play to you for reporting it.. if only to us

My sister's neighbour had a chlid who, for the first 18 months of his life, only responded to the name "Fatface" because that's what they called him.

Took him quite a while to get used to being Jamie.

Welcome to the sad reality of life.

If that is your best contribution I would keep it to yourself, it isn't helping at all.

If that is your best contribution I would keep it to yourself, it isn't helping at all.

How the hell can ANYONE help?

If that is your best contribution I would keep it to yourself, it isn't helping at all.

I think this poster has a point - it IS a sad reality, and anyone who tried to point out the error of the Mother's ways would no doubt get an earful of abuse. Yes it is absolutely wrong to speak to a child in this fashion, but sadly it is probably too late to educate the worthless Mother. What is the answer? I don't know.........:(

i think i know who your talikng about,,,she definatly :loopy: needs sorting out

God that's terrible!!

I don't know how anybody can be like that with their kids!

I've seen a child throwing a paddy on the Moor a few weeks ago. Who I presume to be parents just walking off, child kicking and punching the floor screaming at the top of it's voice and shouting "**** OFF" to it's parents (again, who I presume to be parents).

Not an unusual sight though nowadays is it?

If you spend a bit of time walking around town and some of our less celubrious shopping areas, you will very soon realise that this is more of a norm than a rarity.

Yes, it is disgusting.
Yes, it is wrong.
Yes, these people don't deserve to have children.

But it is a sad reality of life and a result of the gradual changes in society that everyone must take a share of responsibility in.

If you don't like the way the mother behaves, then you should politely say so.
Yes, you will probably get a tirade of abuse for your trouble, but you will have stood up for what you believe in.

My 4 yr old daughter can be a real nightmare at times, showing off and such like but I would never call her a bitch no matter how naughty she was being. Mothers like that don't deserve kids and as someone has pointed out it is a blatant case of child abuse

Abuse such as this should be on a par with physical abuse. Mothers like that shouldnt be allowed to get away with it.

She wouldn't if it was reported. This is mental abuse and possibly neglect. I've just done a course about child abuse (I'm a teacher). If you could identify her to authorities they would take it very seriously.

Verbal abuse is on a par with physical abuse in my book. I know kids can be a handful at the best of times but there is no excuse for shouting at them and using names like the ones some folk use. As for young kids swearing, not just mild stuff but real profanity, they must hear it in the home on a regular basis. That doesn't say much for the parents either. I never heard my father use any profane language until he was ill with cancer and in pain. My own kids haven't heard me use it either - not that I haven't when an occasion outside the home has made me swear.

The so called "mother" should be reported to the Social Services because her kid is in need of moral care. The trouble is some folk have kids without considering how to bring them up in a proper manner. :mad: :mad:

I totally agree this is very wrong to talk to a child in this way, I have two myself, but this mother might have been brought up like this her self, and while she must know its wrong, she might not know any different.

She needs educating on what can affect her childs self esteem and confidence when she is older, before its too late and she treats her children this way. Very sad world we live in and good on ya SHESHE, too many just let it pass by for fear of our opinion being seen as interfereance (thats not spelt right!)
Thats why we live in world we do today, in previous generations your opinion would have been respected and maybe your advice listened to but in 2006, sadly, you would probably been met with abuse for your bother.

I think it speaks volumes to the mothers immaturity to call her own three year old daughter a bitch. It really is digusting behaviour, even though i've overheard this sort of thing in town more than once it still shocks me. Children shouldn't even be hearing language like that let alone be called it. :(

I totally agree this is very wrong to talk to a child in this way, I have two myself, but this mother might have been brought up like this her self, and while she must know its wrong, she might not know any different. ...
Poor little bugger. It's incredibly sad, but I do agree with shinyhappy68's view; the mother is passing on what she knows and probably what she was subjected to herself. Doesn't make it right, of course, but that could be a possible explanation.

Philip Larkin was right :( .

i think i know who your talikng about,,,she definatly :loopy: needs sorting out

If you know who she is, you could always let someone who could investigate know - look at this link about child protection, http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/safe--sound/protection-from-abuse phone numbers etc. I hope you feel you can. If children start nursery or infant school and use really inappropriate behaviour and language, it should be picked up and other agencies involved.

I do agree with Hecate though, sometimes its all the parent knows! It's incredibly sad, but I do agree with shinyhappy68's view; the mother is passing on what she knows and probably what she was subjected to herself. Doesn't make it right, of course, but that could be a possible explanation.

Philip Larkin was right .

My sister's neighbour had a chlid who, for the first 18 months of his life, only responded to the name "Fatface" because that's what they called him.

Took him quite a while to get used to being Jamie.

A list of names that we use for my daughter:

little (insert name) pudgy guts
little (insert name) pudgy legs
little pudgy pink
little pinky pudgy pudge
pinky little pudgy podgy
chunky little pinky chops
chunky little chopsy pink
punky little chunky chops
little miss fancy pants
little miss fantastico
little miss stinky pink
chunky stinky pink.....

reckon you get the picture, and would probably agree that Fatface was a blessing.

It makes u wonder what goes on behind closed doors, no children should have to suffer such abuse.

It's not just Sheffield either because I have heard similar here and it just makes my skin crawl.
A couple of females with a couple of children in a shop yesterday and when one child didn't do as they were told to do first time, it was f this and f that.
Trouble is, they, as has been rightly said, think this is the norm, then they go to school where of course it isn't. The poor teacher though has to be careful how this is put over, otherwise they could be accused of picking on the child.
I despair sometimes, I really do when I see how some of these kids are being brought up.:(

It's rubbish, it's reality, that's why i am broke and living in crosspool with my 5 and 3 yr old.... you don't see it here....

A list of names that we use for my daughter:

little (insert name) pudgy guts
little (insert name) pudgy legs
little pudgy pink
little pinky pudgy pudge
pinky little pudgy podgy
chunky little pinky chops
chunky little chopsy pink
punky little chunky chops
little miss fancy pants
little miss fantastico
little miss stinky pink
chunky stinky pink.....

reckon you get the picture, and would probably agree that Fatface was a blessing.

In jest, I, also, call my daft old dog names that might sound awful, like "stinkydog" and "dogbreath", but with the tone of my voice, and the "scruffle" he gets at the back of his ear as I'm saying it, he knows that it's in affection.

Babychickens, it sounds like this is the same case with your chickette.

I assume that you say it in a loving manner, to her, and not with venom.

I think this is blatantly not the case with the parent in question.

Welcome to the sad reality of life.
Alas it's not a new phenominon either mate.

I had a childhood of derogatory name calling form my dad through the 70's & 80's.

Luckily for me it made me a stronger person but alas, others may not be so resilient of spirit.

A list of names that we use for my daughter:
.....

reckon you get the picture, and would probably agree that Fatface was a blessing.


Fair point, but if your daughter responded ONLY to those names and didn't know what her real name was, I'd be concerned.

should we really condeming these ppl and not try to help instead. yes it is disgusting and definatly should not happen but i think u r all a little quick to judge. being a single mother myself i find it incredibly hard, although ive never done anything like what was mentioned, it is soooooooooo hard. more support and guidence not pig ignorence is needed here

When I hear stories like this I always feel incredibly sad for those people who desperatley want children and can't have them. That poor little girl imagine how she will grow up feeling.

should we really condeming these ppl and not try to help instead. yes it is disgusting and definatly should not happen but i think u r all a little quick to judge. being a single mother myself i find it incredibly hard, although ive never done anything like what was mentioned, it is soooooooooo hard. more support and guidence not pig ignorence is needed here

I WAS a single mother actually, after getting divorced. I can still cringe with some stuff I see.

Abuse such as this should be on a par with physical abuse. Mothers like that shouldnt be allowed to get away with it.
So called 'mothers' like this should be sterilised so they can't have kids - things like this really get to me. A cousin of mine went through absolute hell to get a child having miscarriage after miscarriage until she finally got her baby, and people like this have kids like shelling peas and don't appreciate how lucky they are to have them. This is child abuse. What I always think though is, if they talk to their kids like this in public and don't give a dam, what are they doing to them behind closed doors? It makes my blood run cold to even thing about it.

She wouldn't if it was reported. This is mental abuse and possibly neglect. I've just done a course about child abuse (I'm a teacher). If you could identify her to authorities they would take it very seriously.

It's actually emotional abuse. You are correct about the authorities (children and young people's directorate, formerly the social services department), taking reports of tis kind seriously.

However, being a bit of a devil's advocate, can we really blame this mother when the lyrics of a popular music genre frequently refers to women as 'bitches'? Maybe this mum is just using common parlance, albeit inappropriately towards her young child? Just a thought.

I've seen a child throwing a paddy on the Moor a few weeks ago. Who I presume to be parents just walking off, child kicking and punching the floor screaming at the top of it's voice and shouting "**** OFF" to it's parents (again, who I presume to be parents).

Not an unusual sight though nowadays is it?

first, the first story is disgusting - nobody should talk to a child like this. Unfortunately I only seem to see this or the parents giving into a little brat and teaching it nothing.
This little girl will most likely grow up with no confidence and will take things out on children smaller than herself who have done nothing to warrant it.

Now for the quote - no it's an all too common occurence, but what would the parents do? I'd never dared behave like that in my own home let alone in public where my parents could be embarassed. I can see it now, they'd have dragged me up by the arm and spanked me -not hard, but enough to shock- right there in the middle of town. Unfortunately kids know now that their parents will do nothing because parents are too scared to carry out threats of discipline in case they are reported.

I think I too would've walked away in attempt to teach the child that they were receiving no attention and simply embarrassing themself.

Then again, I'm not a parent and don't intend to be as I know I'd be pants at it!!

I've spotted a few occasions of 'inappropriate behaviour' from paremts to children - though not always like this.

This is the most obviously abusive and unpleasant type of verbal abuse, but I do sometimes wonder whether the situations where a mother treats a very young child as an equal are also risky in terms of establishing the boundary between parent and child?

I've seen a child being addressed by a parent in the same way that I'd address a colleague - even to the same vocabulary - and the child isn't at all sure what's expected of them.

In each case it seems that the parent is 'adulting' the child - treating the child with the same sort of attitude and respect (or not) as they would an adult in a similar situaton.

should we really condeming these ppl and not try to help instead.

Yep, sterilise them.

Yep, sterilise them.

Nah, boiling water is too good for them.

Standing at the 48 bus stop at Firth Park on Bellhouse Rd yesterday about 1.10 pm there was a young woman waiting.
She had a child about 3 with her. The child was not misbehaving but just being a 3 year old.

The mother kept on and on calling her bitch. Come here bitch, stop it bitch etc.
I couldn't believe what I was hearing. When the girl stood in Fultons doorway upset the mother told her to p**s off and she would get a good hiding when she got home, bitch.

The child who she actually called by name "Ollie" was not at all phased so obviuosly she must be used to it.

If this person is a member of the forum then I implore you to stop it. How do you think this child is going to grow up as a useful member of society.

I sincerely hope that this person is not a member of The Forum as I would imagine that all of our members would deplore this obviously unfit mother being in our midst,well that's my view anyway.

If I were you I would have followed them home and then reported them to Social Services, NSPCC and the Police.

What a disgusting way to treat a human being.

i grew up in manchester and it was uncommon to visit the city centre and NOT see this kind of abuse. there was one occasion which has stuck with me ever since.
me and my girlfreind were sat on a bus with one of these cretinous mothers yelling at a two year old to stop crying or else. once she got off, we exchanced incredulous remarks as everyone on this thread has, only to get the person in front of us to turn around and tell us "its her nipper, she can do what she wants with it, none of your f'ing business"
he was at least 50 years old. its not a modern problem. :rant: or :cry: i dont know which.....

Ironically I saw similar outbursts last night at fright night. Parents took their children to an event full of shiny twirly noise maker sellers, shops and funfair rides and spent their time screaming at the child to shut up and stop nagging.

:rolleyes: Like thats what kids do faced with all that choice, I want I want I want.

DS#2 used yesterday as an ideas factory as to what he was going to be next year :P and only after repeated reminders to enjoy this year did he stop. Oh and "I want" was stopped in its tracks when I handed him a money bag with his allotted spends and said buy what you like but when its gone, its gone :thumbsup:

I sincerely hope that this person is not a member of The Forum as I would imagine that all of our members would deplore this obviously unfit mother being in our midst,well that's my view anyway.

And I hope that no rapists are members of the Forum, but I'd be willing to wager there are a few. A creepy thought eh?

And I hope that no rapists are members of the Forum, but I'd be willing to wager there are a few. A creepy thought eh?

:o what a thing to say!

:o what a thing to say!

Yeah, sorry. Thought provoking though...