'Multiverse Theory' Holds That the Universe is a Virtual Reality Matrix.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2004/220704multiversetheory.htm

Very very interesting reading ... but like the man says ... don't believe a word of it ... or else there'll be trouble!


Jamie.

There was a Horizon programme about this subject a while back.

What was that film called ?

About 5 years ago I think ... and at the end it zoomed out of the universe and there were 2 aliens playing marbles ... and our whole universe was just one marble.

Men in Black?

Originally posted by Jamie
'Multiverse Theory' Holds That the Universe is a Virtual Reality Matrix.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2004/220704multiversetheory.htm

Very very interesting reading ... but like the man says ... don't believe a word of it ... or else there'll be trouble!


Jamie.

More to the point, make sure your tin foil hat is firmly secured before browsing anything on the whole site. This is the bleeding edge of crackpot, although I was half expecting to find a "Moon Landings: Faked!" section. Well there is a dead link so not a total washout ("Were the moon landings faked? Is water wet?")


Want to know why the universe is so 'Bio Friendly' ? It's no big mystery..... :D

Originally posted by Jamie
What was that film called ?

About 5 years ago I think ... and at the end it zoomed out of the universe and there were 2 aliens playing marbles ... and our whole universe was just one marble.

Yep, Men in Black. They do a similar thing at the end of MIB 2 where our universe is inside someone's gym locker. Very funny and interesting film. I always forget how funny they are when I've not watched them for a bit. :lol:

Sort of like the Dream of Brahma?

What happens when Brahma wakes?

Joe

The truth is that no one knows, it is all personal opinions, and one only has to consider the implications of life on this planet, to understand that this Earth and Universe could not possibly have happened by chance, what caused the cambrian explosion 300 million years ago, when there was a tremendous proliferation of life suddenly?

And before that, what caused the first one cell life to appear in the primitive ocean's, which began the whole life cycle? no my friend, there is an all knowing intelligence behind it all, if it just happened, as some people beleive, where did all the matter in the Universe come from? where did space come from? how big is space?

How can something like our Sun appear by chance, which converts hydrogen into helium at a rate of 400 million tons per secong and burns for a period of 10 billion years? Man's puny, laughable efforts to explain the origins of this Universe are doomed to failure.:loopy: :loopy: :loopy:

Actually, the physics behind the sun 's fusion reaction are pretty straight forward.

Life's another matter, though! Awfully complicated!

Ignoring the origins of life (I'll let everyone hold their on beliefs about teh origin of life - whether directed creation, alien introduction, meteor bound or random chance) the big explosions in diversity like the Cambrian one have been simulated in computer models. Check out Tom Ray's 'Tierra' model.

Given a population that is capable of breeding and mutation, in an environment that changes with time, then the 'evolution' of simulated life systems mirrors what appears in the fossil record quite accurately.

However, what put that first self contained, self reproducing bag of chemicals in place in the first place is another matter!

But basically once you've got the system in place, it runs quite nicely, thank you very much.

Joe

OK, the article is great but the website editor misses the point with this comment:
Comment: Isn't it amazing that scientists have finally had to admit that the design of the universe is so perfectly crafted so as to indicate intelligent design and yet they still try to avoid any explanation which includes the word God.

The point is, all the universes where the conditions weren't exactly spot for the development of life remained sterile and barren.

Where conditions are right life flourishes.

No wonder then that the universe exists, because if we did not exist to perceive it then it would not.

I thought it was a really cool (thought provoking) web-page ... that raises some really cool questions and thoughts (most of which I've forgot ... cos I've just had a fab night out indulging my senses ... fine italian food and even finer wine).

Oh yeah ... some of my ongoing thoughts (read: unproveable crackpot ideas) ...

Physical matter is non-different from awareness consiousness of physicality.

I am also "intuitively inclined" towards the pan-dimensional multiverse idea ... if the universe happened once ... what was the context within which it happened ? ... and for what reason could it not 'happen' multiple times ... ?

I also find something in hal's 'intelligence behind it all' idea ... although i would not say that it's so much behind it ... as ... it is it.

Sometimes you get the feeling that there is a bigger picture and pattern in life that pulls things in your life together .... and there is something benevolent hidden behond the seeming coincidences of life.

Sometimes you can see through that window ...

*hic*

Phan:

Another point that the editor misses is this:

Speculation as to the true nature of reality is infact just the cogs of the mind turning ... no matter if the content of speculation is something like what's on that web-page OR is a more mainstream accepted version of how things actually are.

The content is different ... but the PROCESS (of mental speculation and the human mind's attempt at grasping the nature of reality) ... is the same.

I really think it's un-fathomable ... and the deeper you look the bigger it is.

I think in the Horizon programme, or maybe somewhere else, I heard that scientists are toying with the idea that they may be able to create their own big-bang on a sub-atomic level. Maybe our universe is the creation of a higher force.

Also, if our universe is the creation of a higher force, what created the higher force?? God's God?

I'm glad I read that, it makes me feel better. I've always been convinced that things aren't real. There is no such thing as anything, I mean, how could there be?

We are part of nothing living (or failing to live) in a vast nothingness that doesn't even exist. An armchair is an armchair simply because it's not a sandy beach or an inner tube or whatever.

Nothingness is just one thing. 'Nothing'. And the beings we think we are, are 'nothing' itself playing confusing mind games - with itself of course.

What ho Sam,
My goodness, now you have really confused things, just when I had accepted the outrageous suggestions heretofore, you complicated matters, what is the matter with you Sam, why not go with the flow?

You know yourself that we weren't created, we were scraped off the bed with a spoon, that is if there is such a thing as a bed in this unreal Universe that we are not part of and nothing exists.

There is no Sunshine, or blue sky, no sea and sand, no sex or women, no pleasure, no food, or wine, we only think there is, you are not real, you can't see yourself in a mirror, you don't ride to work in a car or on a bus!!!

Pull yourself together Sam and don't be so damned awkward!!!

Don't listen to him (hal) Sam !!! ... I think you have something ...

Don't worry, I'm not.

'Scraped off the bed with a spoon'. What utter nonsensical typescript!

Unless the bed represented the Earth on an alternative plane - rather like the flat Earth enthusiasts rant on about in small press publications - insomuch that the springs in the mattress be a simultative representation of the ever-moving mantle.

The spoon, of course, would be cast as the 'ladle of labour' being in an aptitudinal state to transfer the molten stuff to interstellar casting moulds towards the skirting board of the universe and beyond.

Know what I mean?

God, that spoon must have been big!

I'm going to try and keep this as short as I can. Then I'll leave it to you all to get your head around it!

Basically, if the universe is infinate (which they say it is) then there are an infinate number of possibilities within it. This means that somewhere there is another planet just like ours. And not only that, but somewhere there is another planet just like ours with people just like us doing exactly the same things at exactly the same time.

Now if the universe is infinate, then that in itself says that there are an infinate number of identical worlds, and so an infinate number of you and an infinate number of me.

There are also worlds with every possible combination of subtle differences you can ever imagine.

Freaky isn't it?

In my world you lot only exist when my computer is on!
When I close it down you cease to exis...............!