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chris63
23-10-2006, 07:51
I attended a judo event at the above venue for the first time yeterday wow what a place are all the soprting venues in the City of the same calibre :thumbsup: :thumbsup: top marks to the steel city I think I might move :hihi: :hihi:

willman
23-10-2006, 07:54
No and dont do it. lol

chris63
23-10-2006, 09:47
why not my memories of the City tell me its a good place I guess like all places it hasit's problems:hihi:

DaFoot
23-10-2006, 11:42
That Judo hall used to be twice the size...a full 4 mat area. But something to do with needing to make spce for a snooker room, it got halved to a 2 mat area :(

chris63
23-10-2006, 12:30
that explains why I was there till past 5pm yesterday they have spoilt the judo area they should think again I will avoid attending further judo events because of only2 mats but what a biulding wow love it

P.S it needs a cafe

DaFoot
23-10-2006, 12:45
There is a cafe...directly below the Judo hall. I was told yesterday the snooker hall was put in for 2 reasons.
i. To try to keep the snooker world cup competition in sheffield
ii. Snooker is now an Olympic 'sport' so requires space

This weekends event was a little oversubscribed, it took the organisers by suprise. I dont know, but suspect next time they may try to sort something else out. The Sheffield grading is quite new - especially as far as the dan grades go - please do continue support it and help it grow.

More support = stronger arguement for re-instating the other mat area :)

chris63
23-10-2006, 12:55
yes and I think the youn chap who was refeering needs more trianing

DaFoot
23-10-2006, 13:00
yes and I think the youn chap who was refeering needs more trianing

Guy with blonde spiky hair?

There were one or two contentious descisions, these were spoken about with the table/experienced refs who gave their support to his descisions and corrected where wrong.

chris63
23-10-2006, 14:39
thats him Pete Simpson pulled him a couple of times he awared me a good ipon on I have to say the guy never saw it coming he told me afterwards

chris63
23-10-2006, 15:11
thats him Pete Simpson pulled him a couple of times he awared me a good ipon on I have to say the guy never saw it coming he told me afterwards


COURAGE IS DOING SOMETHING EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE AFRAID TO DO IT!!

Starch
24-10-2006, 17:10
Hi, I'm the young referee with spikey blonde hair.

I'm keen to hear what areas you believe I need training in. I think that a lot of the misunderstandings can come about from Yuko-Wazarri calls and from failed Sutemi-waza.

There were a number of calls between Wazarri and Yuko made at the weekend, where a player lands on their side. No matter how impressive, technical, forceful or controlled a throw the maximum score that can be given against a player who lands on their side is a Yuko, there is no exception to this. At a grading this is unfortunate because Yuko is not scored.

With Sutemi-Waza, a player who sacrifices himself and does not succeed in throwing his opponent will only conceed a score if his opponent clearly takes control, in the form of an attack. This is also true where a player falls over accidentally.

I am more than willing to explain the reasoning behind the decisions to players and coaches if they ask, I would infact encourage people to do this so that they may better understand the subtle interpretations of the rule book. However no one approached me at the EIS grading.

chris63
25-10-2006, 07:37
:D Hi Starch thanks for giving me an ippon well done, you need a new hair style though !!!

rubydazzler
25-10-2006, 08:01
Hello Starch, welcome to Sheffield Forum.

You've made a unique start here, someone having a go at you before you even joined!. Usually you have to make at least one post before that happens:hihi:

Have fun on the Forum!

chris63
27-10-2006, 13:18
If they dont sort something they will be no judo at the venue in the future, in some ways the waiting on Sunday was farcical I heard pleantly of people including myself saying they would not attend another grading at this venue, which is a pitty as its a fantastic venue that is cleary not used to its potential, the finger of blame for this has to point directly at the managemnt team of the venue, no suprises there I guess.

:o

DaFoot
27-10-2006, 13:26
indeed.

though we would probably need to show a couple of really popular events like this to be able to persuade management it is worth the extra space. so please do come back!

Tartempion
27-10-2006, 13:38
It's an amazing venue, I agree. :)

I do taekwondo there and while we don't have an official tkd room we often use the combat hall or the judo space, both of which are great! I think sports clubs and societies need to be advertised more outside the centre itself though since most of my friends have never even heard of the Institute of Sport!

chris63
27-10-2006, 14:33
I cant belive a venue like EIS is not booked up and used to its full potential who runs the place, they cleary have no idea what they are doing, it should be well used what a waste a shame, I would love to practice in such a venue, I would suggest someone in a suit is doing Sheffeild a very bad job and selling your great city well short, P45'S SHOULD BE ISSUED:D

Tartempion
27-10-2006, 14:58
There's a taekwondo competition on this weekend (sparring) if anyone's interested in going along to watch. Sunday from 10am. :thumbsup:

GSJoinery
29-10-2006, 10:17
hey all,

Can anyone tell me how you would go about booking this venue? Can any organization just book it out? if so what are the costs? Or do you have to be connected to the EIS?
It is a waste that this place is not used all the time.
cheers

chris63
30-10-2006, 08:33
its a crime and the suits that run it should get the boot:loopy:

berbick
30-10-2006, 12:24
If they dont sort something they will be no judo at the venue in the future, in some ways the waiting on Sunday was farcical I heard pleantly of people including myself saying they would not attend another grading at this venue, which is a pitty as its a fantastic venue that is cleary not used to its potential, the finger of blame for this has to point directly at the managemnt team of the venue, no suprises there I guess.

:o


Judo's always been like that, when I was competing/grading in 1990's the gradings were a nightmare, especailly when going for the Dan Grade, the best venues were St Helens and Wolverhampton. Waiting around was the worst part

Not very organised.

Making a comeback into Judo (trying too) which is the best venue for Randori training these days?

DaFoot
30-10-2006, 12:38
St Helens events are well attended, 4 mat areas. Still lots of waiting!

I'm told the EIS has turned a bit 'fight night', so if randori is what you want, go there (monday evenings).
Wednesday session at sheffield judo (grimesthorpe) has some big guys.
Then there is the Sheffield uni club on tues/thurs evening

How much training do you want to do? ;)

berbick
30-10-2006, 12:57
St Helens events are well attended, 4 mat areas. Still lots of waiting!

I'm told the EIS has turned a bit 'fight night', so if randori is what you want, go there (monday evenings).
Wednesday session at sheffield judo (grimesthorpe) has some big guys.
Then there is the Sheffield uni club on tues/thurs evening

How much training do you want to do? ;)


Probably about once a week, just want to get fit again, lose some weight so a Randori session is best.



What times the uni sessions?

DaFoot
30-10-2006, 13:07
What times the uni sessions?
tues & thurs, 8-10.
generally the tuesday session for folks that have done a bit before - ie. dont want to be worrying too much if they can fall, dont spend much time on basic technique.

If it's been a while, join in on a thursday sesh, see how you get on then decide if fancy the tuesday.

JamesRoss
01-11-2006, 12:54
its a crime and the suits that run it should get the boot:loopy:

How can you finish like that when you start the Thread with "I attended a judo event at the above venue for the first time yeterday wow what a place are all the soprting venues in the City of the same calibre. top marks to the steel city I think I might move"

You've had a dig at Starch when he's offering advice and dialogue, and blame the management for NOT keeping 4 mats in the area. Could you not question the other way and ask why they got rid of two mats? Was it a case that the demand for Judo was less than that of Snooker?

Help by looking at the bigger picture. Contact the venue by letter and raise your concerns that way; with feedback future events can be planned more carefully. How can the management of EIS have any control over the format for the event? As quoted by dafoot "This weekends event was a little oversubscribed, it took the organisers by suprise" - query the organisers and not the location.

Enjoy the sport, but look at the bigger picture before the finger of blame is used!

chris63
02-11-2006, 08:33
:d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d

Lester_Bigot
02-11-2006, 09:27
:d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d


Don't get that

chris63
02-11-2006, 15:21
no niether do I it was supposed to be smiley faces

JamesRoss
13-11-2006, 11:31
no niether do I it was supposed to be smiley faces

Shame really! :hihi:

tinsel_ninja
14-11-2006, 08:37
Hi, I'm the young referee with spikey blonde hair.

I'm keen to hear what areas you believe I need training in. I think that a lot of the misunderstandings can come about from Yuko-Wazarri calls and from failed Sutemi-waza.

There were a number of calls between Wazarri and Yuko made at the weekend, where a player lands on their side. No matter how impressive, technical, forceful or controlled a throw the maximum score that can be given against a player who lands on their side is a Yuko, there is no exception to this. At a grading this is unfortunate because Yuko is not scored.

With Sutemi-Waza, a player who sacrifices himself and does not succeed in throwing his opponent will only conceed a score if his opponent clearly takes control, in the form of an attack. This is also true where a player falls over accidentally.

I am more than willing to explain the reasoning behind the decisions to players and coaches if they ask, I would infact encourage people to do this so that they may better understand the subtle interpretations of the rule book. However no one approached me at the EIS grading.

Good counter Starchie. I see you argue like you fight.