Seen a classic case of how First South Yorkshire like to confuse its customers. This does not help driver/customer relations.
I was waiting for the X78 at Castle Street opposite coop and a number 8 bus arrives with Meadowhall showing on its blind which is correct and people put their hand out for it to stop as you do. Then the fun starts when the queue move to board the bus then all get off again!!! This is because it goes Grimesthorpe ... Firth Park... Northern General hospital .. Upperthorpe ... Broomhill... Hallamshire Hopital....Nether Edge...Manor Park...Attercliffe.... and finally rolls into Meadowhall 1 HOUR 48 mins later..
It brought back members of an old Marty Feldman show Lighting Tours.... Everyone back on the coach!

Are you sure it wasn't a pensioners city tour!
Or was there a guide aboard giving a commentary.Anyway you probably saved some cash by arriving late at Meadowhall.

Are First the real culprits ? I thought it was SYPTE who plannned/designated the routes and asked bus companies to tender for them.

[or perhaps you meant the bus should carry "CIRCULAR" on the indicator as it used to ?]

Originally posted by Greybeard
Are First the real culprits ? I thought it was SYPTE who plannned/designated the routes and asked bus companies to tender for them.

[or perhaps you meant the bus should carry "CIRCULAR" on the indicator as it used to ?]

If the service is Commercial then the operators can do what they like and when, within reason.

SYPTE only controls the Tendered services, as far as I can remember.

Joe

I got on that bus by accident once, it was a nightmare as I was meeting someone a Meadowhall. If I knew I'd have met them in London!!

Only part of the route on this NEW service 8 is on tender as it replaces part of the OLD1/38/39 routes. Basically first have tagged on a bit of route to keep costs down following its successful bid in tendering for several routes.

It may as well do an extra loop down to Meadowhall as it goes as through Wincobank.. Jenkin Road

Several routes go via big tours around Sheffield another for the record is Service 17 Sheffield to Rotherham via Hillsborough.. Fox hill ... Genoside.. Parson Cross.. Firth Park.. Carbrook.. Meadowhall.. Kimberworth and then Rotherham.

I think what first have done in it rejig of its Sheffield network is classified it into 2 divisions. It main interest is in the Overground Network which is I think is almost 100% commercial so is not funded by the PTE. The rest is part commercial/tender and is used to link up the areas with Overground services.

Originally posted by silverknight
Seen a classic case of how First South Yorkshire like to confuse its customers. This does not help driver/customer relations.
I was waiting for the X78 at Castle Street opposite coop and a number 8 bus arrives with Meadowhall showing on its blind which is correct and people put their hand out for it to stop as you do. Then the fun starts when the queue move to board the bus then all get off again!!! This is because it goes Grimesthorpe ... Firth Park... Northern General hospital .. Upperthorpe ... Broomhill... Hallamshire Hopital....Nether Edge...Manor Park...Attercliffe.... and finally rolls into Meadowhall 1 HOUR 48 mins later..
It brought back members of an old Marty Feldman show Lighting Tours.... Everyone back on the coach!

If you checked with travel line,or the internet,or timetable leaflets,or indeed ask the driver then you would know where the bus goes.Hardly warrents yet another thread about First or it's drivers.If you want to travel from point to point get a car!Simple.

Originally posted by unners
If you want to travel from point to point get a car!Simple.

Certainly more reliable than the buses of late! :D (and before you flip its sarcasm in a joking manner.. Sheesh!)

I was catching the x78 to Doncaster! I was drawing peoples attention of how mis leading the current system is. As I was on another bus and a heated debate was going on about can't you read what is says on the front of the bus to a passenger! who had board a bus which has now been rerouted.
Will car owners get of our case,we do not all wish to own or drive a car. I am upto date on the bus market as I know where to look , its First and PTE who have not got their marketing right to inform its present and future customers.

Unners do you drive a bus for Terrier or First?

Originally posted by Deejay
Certainly more reliable than the buses of late! :D (and before you flip its sarcasm in a joking manner.. Sheesh!)


Fair enough. The reason I flip is that when im about to log on to what used to be a good site,(which is getting very repetitive of late)I think to myself that, is there going to be yet another thread about Buses,and low and behold there is!!

My other half tells me not to bother coming on here anymore,but its like an obsession to me now,instead of being a Bus spotter im turning into a Bus thread spotter!! (and no im not really a bus spotter).

I was waiting for a bus to High Green last week,2 buses came one behind the other,i just saw Pink Line on the destination and by the time High Green came on the destination the bus was passing me. Who wants to know what colour line they are, i just want to know where they are going to

I was waiting for a bus the other day. It was the 95 I wanted as it goes from Walkley to town. One came along so I got on. I waited for a while and then, when it got to town, I got off.

I wouldn't have believed it if anyone else had told me. :D

You are right it really is that simple get on bus pay fare or show valid pass no need to glare at driver, make unkind comments,get to the other end and alight and you have cracked it.

Slight change of subject.

I'm fairly annoyed at the changes on routes 33/34 now 20 or The Lime Line that now goes to Hillsborough and changes to the 97 now 97/87 (what the ??) the Whatever stupid colour name i can find or is it Scarlet line .

I mean how difficult is it to NOt change anything to destinations and simply put more buses, raise staff by a uid to get them shut up for a year or two and not paint their buses in pink ?

Originally posted by kingfisher
I was waiting for a bus to High Green last week,2 buses came one behind the other,i just saw Pink Line on the destination and by the time High Green came on the destination the bus was passing me. Who wants to know what colour line they are, i just want to know where they are going to

Thank god someone else noticed that too !
What's the only things we wanna know about a bus ?
Where is it going and is it full ?

A line colour doesn't tell us where it's going, especially on the 41 (3 or 4 destinations going south if I'm not mistaken).
and until recently Hillsborough or Parson Cross for the 97/97A going north.

Memories:
Back in the early 80s, before Mrs Thatch got Mr Nicholas Ridley to be her de regulation bitch,
12 midnight 'horn' from near fargate - there where buses going to EVERY WHERE in the city, all lined up and waiting for this sound, all taking of as one in convoy.
Back then, (Rose coloured glasses)?? every bus driver carried an A5 sized timetable 1" thick of ALL routes, (these where available to the public FREE)
You could get on a bus, ask a driver about a route/stop, they would casually pull out the timetable, look up in the index, find the page and tell you. No worries, there was no rush, there where LOADS of buses. The city then had the lowest fares in the country, and the aim was FREE fares for the city.
Then came thatch and her de regulation bitch.
The rest is history.
You may not agree (T020)

draggletail,

there was also the 11.15pm "whistle bus"

very similar...

I remember it well!

The buses'd be lined up in High Street (this was back in the good old bad old days, before deregulation and all Maggie Thatcher's other Cr*p), when they went both ways, up and down High Street)
there'd be an inspector, there, with a whistle, and at 11.15 pm precisely, he'd blow the whistle, and there'd be a mass "Chharrrr-ge", of all the buses, roaring off to their terminii.

It had to be seen to be believed.

PT

Yes, PT, thats probably the one I mean... In my memory, it was 12 midnight, but could have been 11.15.

Like you say, good old bad old days!
I'm a lot happier now than I was then (bit less gullible) Ha!:thumbsup: