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A young female collapsed during at a well known nightclub, Sheffield, on Wednesday night after it was found that her drink was spiked with a known date rape drug.

The disgraceful reaction of the "security" staff was to eject the unconscious woman onto the pavement.

The young woman is recovering but there are apparently some serious issues here, which must be addressed.

In the mean time, if you are a young woman stay vigilant, mind your drinks and don't accept a drink you haven’t seen poured for yourself at the bar.

Please add a comment to keep this thread current for a while, thank you.

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important to spread awareness...

there are date rape articles in the papers every few weeks, this is nothing new.

Just because something is in the papers every few weeks and is nothing new does not make it negatable. Not everyone reads papers - thanks for the warning - the more people read about things like this happening, the more vigilant they are likely to be.

Why do people insist on calling them 'Date' rape drugs - it seems there is no 'Dating' element involved - they are RAPE drugs - sorry for semantics, but lets call a spade a spade

Why has the nightclub not been named ?

As all opinions on this board are individual opinions the Sheffield Forum Board owners can not be sued for slander and knowing which nightclub is important.

Well, it wouldn't be slander it would be libel.

and anyone can be sued for libel, whether justifiably or not.

and if you are sued for libel, when the name of a venue obviously did crop up on your forum, you would want the best counsel you could afford to defend yourself.

which costs money. a lot of money.

being innocent of libel is not enough to prevent your lawyers taking you to the cleaners, even if the plaintiffs fail in their suit.

So the reason we are keeping the name of the venue out is because we do not want the forum, and Geoff in particular, to even run the remotest risk of being sued, or otherwise involved.

Once the information is put into the public domain by someone else with more expensive lawyers, then I think we can talk about the venue with impunity.

That, at least, is my understanding of it.

Could they name the one's it isn't????

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Well, it wouldn't be slander it would be libel.

and anyone can be sued for libel, whether justifiably or not.

and if you are sued for libel, when the name of a venue obviously did crop up on your forum, you would want the best counsel you could afford to defend yourself.


The main issue is if the fact is TRUE. If a girl left X nightclub after being spiked and that is a fact. No one can be sued for slander/libel.

Only if the fact is FALSE can they sue, they have to prove that no girl was spiked at x nightclub or else they can't even serve a paper on you.

That said I understand the worry of this 'sue happy' world these days and that SheffieldForum/Geoff should not be placed in a risky situation.

Cyclone, Your link doesn't work for me ?

i wonder if it's the new windows firewall from sp2 blocking that port.

I'll investigate a little.

I think that was it, tomcat hadn't been added as a service that was allowed access. Can you try it again?

It appears to work.
So there's (allegedly) bouncers just dumping people outside all the main clubs I've been to when they've (allegedly) been drugged and need help. Does anyone have an account of a bouncer at a club treating people nicely after they've been drugged?

If the user has such sure-fire evidence, then he should go to the police. Posting the details on the forum isn't going to achieve much and if you are really trying to raise awareness of this club's attitude then go to the Star, or another organisation that has the time and money to both investigate and possibly defend itself from your claims.

As for the law on libel, ISPs and forum owners in the past have been sued for the actions of their users. There is not a consistent policy and for a hobby site such as this I've not got the time (or indeed money!) to deal with threatening letters or legal proceedings.

No-one really knows the motives of each other here. It could be the case that Mr_E or other forum users work for rival clubs.

Like I said, if you have sure-fire evidence then go to the police. If you want to name and shame them then to to the Star. Having said that, do feel free to discuss the dangers in general, and tips on how to avoid your drink being spiked, but don't use names.

ok heres my post but edited. if you want to know what the name of the club is just pm me and ask me ok.

my sister was spiked at the *********** . the same club that MR E mentioned when he first posted, and collapsed and was throwing up all night and was hallucinating. along with 15 other people, on other nights (but at the same place) in the past 2 months.

15 PEOPLE SO FAR HAVE SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT SERIOUS INCIDENTS LIKE THIS ONE AT THIS PARTICULAR CLUB.

My mother went to the club where this has been happening to talk to the person there, not sure who it was, and also to get my sisters coat which she left, they said they always check people before they enter and i for one know, as I had been going for a long long time that not once have i seen a member of the security there check one single person before they enter, they never ever ID people either, that i have seen. its absolutely disgraceful. they didnt care atall. Im not going to risk getting sued or whatever, just pm me if you want to know which club it is.

MR E please will you pm me, need to talk to you...

Originally posted by PIF_Tails
The main issue is if the fact is TRUE.
Please e-mail me with independent evidence of this...

Originally posted by PIF_Tails
they have to prove that no girl was spiked at x nightclub or else they can't even serve a paper on you.
Could you link me to some references of this? Guilty until proven innocent - seems odd to me.

Originally posted by mimicraze
15 PEOPLE SO FAR HAVE SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT SERIOUS INCIDENTS LIKE THIS ONE AT THIS PARTICULAR CLUB.
As I said, you will achieve far more by going to the police. If you want to name and shame them then take your evidence to the Star - they have far greater experience at knowing what you can or can not claim.

Re-read that ^ ;)

As I said, you will achieve far more by going to the police. If you want to name and shame them then take your evidence to the Star - they have far greater experience at knowing what you can or can not claim.

Right....well as i have had advice from a police officer....they have told me to get all these people to call CRIMESTOPPERS actually, so they can do an investigation on it. Id rather do that right now then see what happens.

Great. Also, I was thinking another idea (apart from contacting the Star) is that you could all sign some form of letter and send it to the club in question, stating the times and places etc. If the problem is being caused by the doormen then the club should look be able to take action relatively easily and a formal letter with mulitple signatures might do the trick.

Good luck.

Originally posted by Cyclone
The forum is doing the people of Sheffield a disservice...
It occured to me that the people in question should take their claims to the BBC in Sheffield... after all, we each pay them around £10 a month to provide us with a service and how often do they take any risks in the name of Sheffield residents ;)

a fair point, they'd make much more of an impact through the star or the local news.

Let me know if anything comes of this. If someone like the Star is happy enough to run the story (*and name the club - that's the key remember*) then I will be happy to follow suit. Unfortunately due to differences in size, money and legal resources I have to follow their lead on such things like this...

I am simply concerned that this is happening in places that should be offering a safe environment for people to enjoy socialising.
I don't have children yet... but this kind of thing would be my worse nightmare if it happened to a child of mine. If people are talking about it then that is positive. At least people can be on their guard if they know what to look for. The people involved are already talking with appropriate and trained people since the victim ended up in hospital.
As for me, I have only heard about this kind of thing before. But when it happens to some one in my home town, in a club I've been to often, to people I know... then it becomes more real and shocking.
I can't imagine how it must feel to be a victim of it ... but I worry about it and worry that there are nasty ******* who stoop so low. What's even more frightening is that they are amongst good people who do not deserve to have this worry. It’s horrid to think that trust between people is being eaten away by, probably, just a few evil and vindictive people who are missing something in the head... But this is unfortunately happening everywhere, it seems, not just Sheffield.

I was just shocked and concerned that this happened. Sometimes you (I mean you in the broad sense) want to do anything you can to make people aware of something. And for me, in this instance, it included writing something to that effect on a local forum. I make no apologies for this.

I am sorry that I may have mentioned something that caused the operators of this forum to worry.
The issues are nothing to do with the specific club involved… this could happen anywhere. I certainly don’t have any vested interests, as suggested by Geoff, though I accept the validity of his comments. If I did work for a rival club, this would be a pretty low/sick way of running a business. I assure you I would never do that, something you’re just going to have to take my word for. And as for the security staff acting badly, lets face it, security staff are similar everywhere, there are some good ones and bad ones at most venues. It's still disgraceful when they act inappropriately. This is actually the fault of the agencies' training and the poor regulation of door staff generally.
I have no specific axe to grind, I simply wanted to make people aware that there are dangers out there. What happened is fact and I became concerned.

The following, however, is my opinion and, as far as I am concerned, it’s true –
People who have to drug people to gratify their needs can’t be right in the head. Anyone who feels that they have to do something like that must be dull, boring, thick and worse still, cowardly. If they were bright, amusing, fun loving, bold and attractive then they could woe people in the same way the rest of society does. They’re also into bestiality and necrophilia… because animals and carcasses can’t object, fight back or tell anyone afterwards. If any sad **** is reading this who uses these drugs on people and they feel this is libellous and does not accurately reflect them, they’re welcome to sue me.

Originally Posted by Mr_E
And as for the security staff acting badly, lets face it, security staff are similar everywhere, there are some good ones and bad ones at most venues. It's still disgraceful when they act inappropriately. This is actually the fault of the agencies' training and the poor regulation of door staff generally.

I'm sorry I have to take exception to this portion of your post. You're talking b******* saying that security staff are similar everywhere. Just because this particular club (and it doen't take einstein to work out which you're referring to with the amount of '*' out letters) has a security problem doesn't make it so everywhere.

Yes there are some bad apples, but the majority these days are not like the door staff of yesteryear. They're more heavily regulated and watched and the training (depending on where you get it from) is of the highest standard. Although yes I have officially now retired from the doortrade, it's still an industry I look fondly on even though I only operated in it's circles for a relatively short time.

Sheffield Doorstaff are actually some of the best in Yorkshire for integrity, professionalism, courtesy and friendliness. Not to mention being excellent in the field of the work they're paid to do.

The particular club mentioned I happen to have worked at a coupld of years ago. Back then it was a different security firm who were in charge and they were the dogs nads for professionalism. I've heard mixed reports these days so there you go.

And on the subject of just ejecting the female in question, blame the club managers. When they tie the hands of security staff and basically say it's your job on the line if you keep the particular reveller on the premises what are they to do? OK myself, I always (and believe me or not it makes no odds) always put the safety and comfort of the guests first and foremost. One of the reasons for my interview by BBC Radio Sheffield (as I happen to have displayed such to one of it's presenters).

As far as regulation goes, I guess you've never heard of the S.I.A which is the new security industry regulation body that was setup to deal with those rogue doorstaff and those who act in an inappropriate manner? You can gain information from their website (http://www.the-sia.org.uk/) if you wish.
They officialy come into force in Sheffield in December. All security staff right down to Marks and Spencers in house staff have to have the new SIA badge and have gone through conflict management training. This training is only provided by companies who meet SIA high standards.

So please before you make a sweeping statement such as this, get the facts. The facts are that the MAJORITY of Sheffield doorstaff (and doorstaff everywhere as a whole) are good, professional and friendly individuals who put the safety of the customers & staff of the venues they are employed at before there own.

Thank you

DaBouncer
:thumbsup:

very eloquently put dabouncer. With the new SIA regulations the standards of doorstaff have never been better.

Security staff at entertainments venues are supposed to protect the public, the venue and themselves. And I appreciate that it's one of the hardest jobs in the world to do well . I accept your comments and good intentions to improve the situation.

I wasn't referring to conflict management, I, myself have undergone conflict management training (for very different reasons) and it was very good for the most part.

But I was referring to basic first aid.

One Fact is that unconscious people usually need help...

As for my comments about good and bad security staff, please don't take exception. The fact remains, forgetting club management/gangster/legal/security/local authority politics issues, that someone who needed help was ignored by people whose job it is to help.
In all walks of life there are bad apples. And I am glad that efforts are being made to sift them out. But a bit of compassion can save a life just as effectively as knowing how to dissipate an argument or administering reasonable force.

The Fact on issue here is people are becoming victims of a crime.
This is terrible and it needs to be stopped. This Fact has affected the tone of my “sweeping comment”. I am sorry if I have caused offence to someone who is conscientious. But I am outraged that this drugging is happening in clubs. No matter how you look at it, it has to be addressed.

in the very odd libel laws of this counrty the medium can be oftwen taken to court. A classic example of the laws can work in surprising ways was the "prince charles, is he bi scandal" Brittish papers could not print allegations but foreign papers could, yet newsagents selling foreign papers could be sued and were forced to stop selling foreign papers thus i couldnt get hold of le monde at the time when i needed it.

On the subject of rape drugs (i agree on the date semantics) i've known it happen at two nightclubs on student nights. i have only ever been searched once in my life entering a club in sheffield and that was B.E.D. On the subject of ID, ive never been I.D'ed in my life in sheffield but i look older, my firends have but then have watched blatanlty underage girls get in because of how low there skirt is (if im honest not that im complaining).

Horrible to hear this has happened in sheffield

The one thing ive not heard mentioned is the actual proof that the victim in question was actually drugged with a date rape drug ?

Maybe she was just enjoying a night out on one of the many recreational drugs available and had a bad experience "whitey"

Im sure that people who have tried recreational drugs before have all had a bad experiences as well as good .

This is just an opinion ,

If the facts are true and this did happened to the person in question I hope she is ok .

she doesnt use recreational drugs. Shes not ok, she was rushed to hospital last night and is being booked into seing a neurologist soon enough for some tests and things. it took her a week to get better and now this happens. they think its directly related to what happened at said club. everybody cross their fingers for her that its nothing serious.

Originally posted by Mr_E
Security staff at entertainments venues are supposed to protect the public, the venue and themselves. And I appreciate that it's one of the hardest jobs in the world to do well . I accept your comments and good intentions to improve the situation.

I wasn't referring to conflict management, I, myself have undergone conflict management training (for very different reasons) and it was very good for the most part.

But I was referring to basic first aid.

One Fact is that unconscious people usually need help...

As for my comments about good and bad security staff, please don't take exception. The fact remains, forgetting club management/gangster/legal/security/local authority politics issues, that someone who needed help was ignored by people whose job it is to help.
In all walks of life there are bad apples. And I am glad that efforts are being made to sift them out. But a bit of compassion can save a life just as effectively as knowing how to dissipate an argument or administering reasonable force.

The Fact on issue here is people are becoming victims of a crime.
This is terrible and it needs to be stopped. This Fact has affected the tone of my “sweeping comment”. I am sorry if I have caused offence to someone who is conscientious. But I am outraged that this drugging is happening in clubs. No matter how you look at it, it has to be addressed.
I accept your revised version and yes if someone is unconcious whether through drink, drugs or other attention needs to be administered to that indivdual one way or the other. It's no excuse to say that a lot of people may be coming out of the club drunk and on the verge of unconciousness, they need to be addressed. If they ejected this person and left them on their own, then yes they are responsible. However if someone walks out of the premises and becomes unconscious afterwards, the responsibility does not fall with the club or any of it's staff. However this is where social resposibility comes into play with the individual. I.e. I have no legal responsibility to that person who is unconsious no more than I do if I was walking the streets and found them there. However the right thing to do, since I have the relative training is to help this indivual (even if that help is to keep a check of breathing while I get help from paramedics).

I took exception with the comments made which came across as most of the security staff (the industry as a whole is flawed) when this blatently is not the case. We need more people to trust we're doing the right thing for them (I say we, but I'm no longer in that industry). Bad apples need to be sought out and removed from the industry, but this is much the responibility of the agencies who employ these rogue staff too.

Talking of searching for drugs when entering a club, this is a practive which is sadly lacking in Sheffield today. Gatecrasher employes this as spot check on people as and when it requires. The leadmill doesn't search at all, and neither does Kingdom. These being the main clubs in Sheffield, they should set an example to smaller venues to uphold. I for one think it's a great policy for clubs to search EVERY person who enters the premises (whether it takes a long time or not) this only serves to promote a safer environment for people to enjoy.

Theonly club in Sheffield which did this as a rule with everyone has now closed down and it was the Roundhouse (now Aqua - below ponds forge). I'm not sure if the new Aqua club still does this, but I think it should be taken on board across Sheffields club culture as a whole. It should also extend to late bars such as Takapuna, Reflex etc.

The Leadmill does use both random & targetted searching, as and when necessary

Well in all the years I've been going there and the security staff I have known who have worked there, I can honestly say I have never witnessed this.

However if they are now doing this, it will be a welcomed addition, but it needs to be a full search for everyone not just targetted.

I'll PM you about this

Had a PM from Rich who has explained the policies to me about the leadmill. All I can say is they're very welcomed and as one of the bigger and more popular clubs in Sheffield to take the searching seriously I think it will benefit Sheffield in the long run.

I look forward to the day the rest of the clubs and bars in sheffield follow suit.

How long would it take door staff to search people to the extent that would be needed to verify they have no drugs on them, and how far are they legally allowed to go?

I'm not suggesting clubs shouldn't do this, but it is surely unrealistic to think that clubs are actually going to take this seriously.

I'm not commenting at all as to the rights and wrongs of the situation, because obviously drugs are a big problem.
(not as big a problem as alcohol obviously, but thats a different story)

I remember when 'the Drop' was at City Hall (many moons ago). There was male and female door staff, women used to get bags, purses and pockets checked over and men used to have pockets, wallets and legs of trousers checked. Yes there were slightly longer queues than you find at most clubs now, but at least they were actively seen to be searching everyone who went in.

In my experience - its common for dance clubs or dance nights to search people on the way in - although compared to London clubs - Sheffield searches are not that strict (although I'm not sure of the legality of doorstaff putting their thumbs inside waistbands as has happend to me in London...).

If someone was going to use a "date rape" drug (I agree - its not really an appropriate term) - dont think searches would put them off though.

However the number of incidents are still quite low and far more problems come about as a result of excessive alcohol consumption.

Jake, entirely agree about the alcohol point.

People think because alcohol is legal, they should be able to drink as much as they like and have a diminshed responsibility for looking after themselves.

Yes, it would be nice to live in a world where there were no dangers and no nasty people, I agree. I'm not saying we shouldn't aim for this but it is not the situation we are in.

If the "date rape" phenomenon was eradicated overnight it wouldn't solve 5% of the problems that occur in nightclubs.

Sorry to bump such a controvertial topic, but any update on this sorry and shameful saga?

I'm supposed to be having a night on the town with a load of mates a week on Saturday, and we might have ended up in a club whos name has 'that many letters'. Needless to say these rumours make me a little worried for the female members of the entourage

I hope this person is OK. Nasty nasty thing. Some folks are just plain wired-up wrong :(

Yeah, makes me want to to turn in my trainers and get out of the human race :(

I watched the dispatches programme last night about drink spiking it seems to be a wide spread problem in clubs around the country.

Is there the same problem or have you been ' spiked' in a Sheffield pub/club ?

Perhaps if these Clubs/pubs are known to us all we can go some way to stopping this happening in our area.

The thought of it really makes my blood rush.

On holiday I met 2 gorgeous Scottish girls and went out to a nightclub with them both of them. One was hammered and put her head down on the bar, then this guy walks over to her with what looked like something in his hand.

I saw nothing but bad intentions... So I lost my temper slightly, I'll save you all of the threat I made but it isn't nice, but he got the point and said he was off to "Get his mates".. I just said I'll be here.

They should just use the bottle tops like the ones on top of powerade, so nothing can be dropped in.

I don't think that it is the clubs/pubs that are responsible is it? drink spikers can be anywhere, so knowing where it has happened already isn't going to mean it will happen there again.
Just don't leave your drink unattended and don't accept them off strangers.

Mod: Similar threads merged.


Please DO NOT name any establishment in the open Forum.

so knowing where it has happened already isn't going to mean it will happen there again.
you obviously havent read the enitre thread have you? because yes sometimes it does mean it will happen again, i know of 15 instances its happened in one club in sheffield. its not a case of watching your drink or not letting anyone buy you a drink when its the bar staff for instance? anyway, i dont want to get into to much really, someone close to me got badly spiked there and are still ill from it and its permanent.

In my opinion....no mercy shown to these people

I went to a nitespot in central sheffield last weekend. Some guy shoved a full bottle of larger in to my hand,I didnt drink it but he didnt know that, he still watched me all night.
And when I was leaving I got seperated from the rest of the group,this guy grabbed the top of my arm and said somthing along the lines of "your friends have all gone home you would be safer comming in my taxi and i'll drop you off" he had his hand round the top of my arm in quite a forcefull grip and I think he thought I was wasted. Luckily my friends came back to find me and he let go and skulked off in to the back of the club.
Most of my friends made a comment about how strange he was and I got the impression that there was more than larger in the bottle he gave me, Luckily I was a little drunk but still able to suss out an iffy situation if I had of drank that beer I think it would have been a different matter. I definatley think that all young women out on the town should be very wary I certainly wont be in a hurry to go out again..

its a pity you didnt tell the doorstaff, and insist they ring the police. these people need to be caught and put away for a long time. :( :( :(

Originally posted by green
its a pity you didnt tell the doorstaff, and insist they ring the police. these people need to be caught and put away for a long time. :( :( :(
I know if I was prehaps a little more sober I would have thought on to do so..I was shook up and just wanted to get home to my bloke and kids, and even if I did, if he had the stuff stashed away safe they could never prove it anyway they would have thought I was a nurotic drunken woman.
Still we must be very aware when out drinking dont take drinks from strangers

i think that since this issue is foremost in most decent peoples minds, the doorstaff, manager and police would have taken what you said very seriously. If the doorstaff hadnt taken you seriously the police certainly would. Dont assume that just because youve had a few drinks you will be classed as a neurotic woman. 90% of people on a evening out have had a few drinks lol.


btw.....whilst i take your circumstances very seriously, i witnessed a girl goto the manager of a venue recently, and report that she felt a barman had spiked her drink, as she saw him place something into it, and now she felt very queasy. When the manager asked her which barman and what was her drink, she replied sambuca, and pointed out the individual. Whilst serving sambuca its common practice to put 3 coffee beans into the drink, which ultimately turned out to be in this case.... the poor girl was soo upset when she realised !!!

Scarily enough i've heard of places in my hometown [york] where the barstaff and bouncers work together. The barstaff drug the drinks and the bouncers evict and rape the girls behind bars clubs etc.
Scary stuff and apparently it's spreading.

Originally posted by lexsexlexsex
Scarily enough i've heard of places in my hometown [york] where the barstaff and bouncers work together. The barstaff drug the drinks and the bouncers evict and rape the girls behind bars clubs etc.
Scary stuff and apparently it's spreading.

errmmmm... well its a good scary story.. but sounds a bit like a urban myth to me...

Like anything - be careful - but dont get paranoid...

a friend of mine recently had her drink spiked with something and was in a terrible state and 1 week on is still aching and having to visit the doctor.

if i saw any1 doing this i would find it hard to hold back because to me this is the lowest kind of scum you can find.

i feel more glad that i dont go `out' because if its not idiots spiking drinks or pushing drugs its some moran who thinks he's mike tyson looking for a fight.

Has anyone ever had there drink spiked in sheffield??

cheap night !! joking. no i havent but i know someone that has. not good if ur not prepared or expecting something. same goes for shots put in drinks. at least if you have a cocktail (drink) you know ur gonna get v v v tipsy.
i remember a few years ago with all that GHB about, very scary - seems to have calmed down though

Mr_E confirmed that these allegations would either appear in print or as a complaint to the police.

As a follow up, did either of these two things happen. Are their judicial processes in motion?

Originally posted by geno
Has anyone ever had there drink spiked in sheffield??

MOD: Merged your thread with an existing one.

Originally posted by draggletail
Why do people insist on calling them 'Date' rape drugs - it seems there is no 'Dating' element involved - they are RAPE drugs - sorry for semantics, but lets call a spade a spade
think i read in cosmo or somewhere, that it started from guys doing it to girls on their dates, 1st 2nd or whatever. nowadays its just happening to people on the night in a club by someone they never met - or even scarier someone they do know

Sorry I've not read through the entire thread but I just received this in my email box and thought it might be an idea to pop this on here.

Sorry if you've all seen it before.


THIS IS HORRIFIC AND NOT A JOKE!!

A woman at a nightclub on Saturday night was taken by 5 men, who

>according to hospital and police reports, gang raped her before dumping

>her.

>

>Unable to remember the events of the evening, tests later confirmed

>The repeat rapes and along with traces of Rohypnol in her blood, was

>Progesterex, which is essentially a small sterilization pill. The drug

>Is now being used by rapists at parties to rape AND sterilize their

>victims.

>

>Progesterex is available to vets to sterilize large animals. Rumor
>Has

>it that Progesterex is being used together with Rohypnol, the date rape

>drug.

>

>As with Rohypnol, all they have to do is drop it into the girl's drink.

>The girl can't remember a thing the next morning, of all that had taken

>Place the night before. Progesterex, which dissolves in drinks just as

>easily, is such that the victim doesn't conceive from the rape and the

>rapist needn't worry about having a paternity test identifying him

>months later.

>

>The drug's effects ARE NOT TEMPORARY- They are P*E*R*M*A*N*E*N*T!

>Progesterex was designed to sterilize horses. Any female who takes it

>WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CONCEIVE. The weasels can get this drug from

>anyone Who is in the vet school or any university. It's that easy, and

>Progesterex Is about to break out big everywhere.

>

>Believe it or not, there are even sites on the Internet telling

>people how to use it. Please forward this to everyone you know,

>especially girls. Be careful when you're out and don't leave your

>drink unattended.

>

>Please make the effort to forward this on to all you know...

>

>Guys, please inform all your female friends and relatives. PLEASE
>PASS

>THIS ON!

I have seen it before and IT IS A HOAX. Its got the right elements of all good hooror stories - but afraid it just an urabn myth

http://www.bighoaxes.com/hoaxe_4_52.html

IT IS A HOAX is it (no need to shout mate - I would have read it just as easy without caps lock on :roll: )

Either way hoax or not, it's still in keeping with the thread and always best to be vigilant.

Originally posted by Dirk Diggler
Either way hoax or not, it's still in keeping with the thread and always best to be vigilant.

Playing it safe.. Always the best way mate :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Dirk Diggler
IT IS A HOAX is it (no need to shout mate - I would have read it just as easy without caps lock on :roll: )

Either way hoax or not, it's still in keeping with the thread and always best to be vigilant.

Soory about that - just seen the story do the rounds so many times!

I'm always a bit uneasy about the whole dodgy geezer/dodgy drug spiking thing - as far far more bad things happen as result of people voluntarily drinking too much alcohol.

Although bogey men are easy to blame, binge/heavy drinking cause many many times more problems - its just not as exciting to say - "dont drink to excess" as it is to say "watch out for dodgy drugs in your drink".

Watch out for dodgy things - but dont lose sight of the real problems!

I've had a drink spiked before, although it was nowhere near as serious some of the cases given here by some people. it turned out "they" had put in some speed. I had never taken it before and i soon realised something was different. I certainly didn't find it pleasent, but far worse is the thought that something stronger of the date rape drug kind could have been put in. People who feel that no good night is complete unless they spike drinks are f****** deranged and need help. However, like other people of the forum i agree that the best way to fight this sick minded behaviour is to be alert and careful and not reduce yourself to paranoia or to employ witch hunting-like ideas.

A company have now made a device to go on the tops of drinks bottles to stop people from being able to spike them. It act's almost like a lock and if the seal is broken one knows the drink has been tampered with. Clubs in Sheffield are soon to be trialing the idea.

thats brilliant :D

Hey not sure what club it was in but there was a studends drink spiked in sheffield on wednesday 17th nov and she was attacted in her room later, please be carefull of this

im confused are you on about GHB? or the horse tranquilizer thingy? girls...and boys should stick together and not let eachother outta sight xx

If the Forum site could be sued by a nightclub for referring to something bad which happened - hadn't you / we better watch out for other examples. Recent thread pulled apart Blundells, several restaurants, the bus and train companies, named teachers etc.... all libel in the strict sense - oooerrrr.

Hi all this is my first post -

I have read this thread with interest - a friend of a friend was admitted to hospital after a night out in sheffiled - It is belived that she had her drink spiked.

The reason for my post is I bought a drink spike kit from a site on the web, for a couple of pounds that i keep in my bag always.

It won't stop you getting spiked but if you start to feel unwell you can test your drink and get help before it is too late.

i just have to add to this thread: my little sister (16) got her drink spiked at a friends house party the other night, im absolutely fuming! one of hte girls recognised the signs and 3 girls sat up with her all night. lil sis was so scared and angry. people take drugs fair enough, but it shouldnt be forced on others. luckily she was ok although lost about 6 or so hours. she told my mum everything and jsut wants to forget about it. some friends eh?!:mad:

Originally posted by nuf_said
If the Forum site could be sued by a nightclub for referring to something bad which happened - hadn't you / we better watch out for other examples. Recent thread pulled apart Blundells, several restaurants, the bus and train companies, named teachers etc.... all libel in the strict sense - oooerrrr.

no they aren't. And technically neither was this. The site just didn't want to take the chance as going to court over the issue would be expensive whether right or wrong.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Mr_E confirmed that these allegations would either appear in print or as a complaint to the police.

As a follow up, did either of these two things happen. Are their judicial processes in motion?

Well. Mr_E?

You were posting these allegation in full claiming that they would be in the newspapers within the week. Did I miss them?