It's a bit quiet at the moment, but cast your mind back a few weeks to the constant barrage of extremely loud explosions that went on every day and night either side of Nov 5th, Xmas and New Year. The RSPCA is supporting a Bill on 28th Feb to control the sale of fireworks. Please visit
http://www.rspca.org.uk/fireworks where you will also find a link to fax your MP asking for their support.

I'm most certainly going to support this campaign. Around the time of last Bonfire night, I was supposed to be studying for my mock exams but you see my attention was diverted by the pained whimpers from my dog who was absolutely terrified of the fireworks. I had to break off from my work so that I could hold him in my arms to stop him from shaking. It's absolutely terrible that fireworks should be allowed when they cause such disruption for our animals. I thought we were a caring nation of animal lovers? :shock: Well if we are, then its time this campaign was supported. There's no need for fireworks to be that loud.

I will support this campaign, as it is disgracefull that we have to put up with this awfull noise every time some idiot has got an excuse to annoy and distress everyone else. The old people, the animals,those with a nervous disposition and some poor souls with heart trouble, sometimes till the early hours of the morning. There should be legislation to stop this idiotic pratice immediately, it is not little children who are guilty of this, it is adults who should know better. Again, it is sheer bloody mindedness these numbsculls enjoy spoiling others quiet and they think it is a big joke. They should be rounded up and put in the cells for the night/s, where they can shout for all they are worth and no one can hear them. :evil: :twisted:

fireworks should be banned unless its an organised event like at don vally. i love cats aswell

Thanks for the support, f-g do you still want guitar lessons?

Originally posted by "f_g"

fireworks should be banned unless its an organised event like at don vally. i love cats aswell

I have to say I think this is the right way to go....perhaps have it so that you beed special permission to use them.

Tighter controls of fireworks look likely after the Government agreed to consider new laws.

I totally agree that something should be done but honestly can't see it being enforceable. If my memory serves me right those 'bomb' like fireworks were banned a couple of years ago but they still went off last year. How do you stop people buying say from the internet? Also can you imagine how difficult it would be to catch anybody setting fireworks off illegally. The police often do not make visits to victims who have experienced much more serious crime so I'm sure that they wouldn't bother about fireworks.

Banning fireworks at their source wouldn't be too hard, would it? Stopping shops selling fireworks would be reasonably easy to enforce while fireworks being delivered over the internet could be picked up as their contents (as I understand it) are detectable. It is all down to available police time, though. Like you say, Mo, the police are stretched enough dealing with more serious crimes. Initiatives to remove the easy ways of getting hold of fireworks (ie., shops) would be helpful, though, as I suspect many people setting them off are basically opportunists and wouldn't bother if getting hold of fireworks was too much hassle.

Sorry to be a pain in the proverbials here but I do not think that fireworks should be banned at all.

however, i do agree that display quality fireworks should be only sold to registered firework display teams.

The government can control the manufacturers (of which their arent that many) and who they supply to. A certain quality of firework can be made available to the public and display ones on restricted supply.

The difference being, public sale can be limited to
visual only - any size
bangs and whistles - limited to an audible limit i.e. say up to 80decibels.

display team fireworks
up to any size dependent on local authority granting a license for such a display.

Keeps us irresponsible adults happy and also you pet lovers - Yes?

:D

What was with the fireworks at about 4:30 this morning ???? :shock:

Does anyone know why about 100 fireworks were let off at about 4:30 AM this morning which kindly woke me with the panic that we were being bommed !!!

Originally posted by "Big Ben"

What was with the fireworks at about 4:30 this morning ???? :shock:

Does anyone know why about 100 fireworks were let off at about 4:30 AM this morning which kindly woke me with the panic that we were being bommed !!!
Never heard a thing. What area in Sheffield? :shock:

I think it was near the United ground near Bramall Lane..... I think, still trying to get me bearings in this City.....

Oh I wouldn't have heard then being at SE side of Sheffield. Are sure sure you weren't dreaming Big Ben?

Thought I was initially, but then seeing the look, on my girlfriends panicked faced....
No that was not from waking next to me, but the thought that we were under attack !!! I realised that I was not dreaming, and it went on for a good 5 minutes !!!!

Very puzzled !!!

It would be Al-quaida practising, Osama Bin Laden is lodging near there. move out quick!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

There were a few fireworks this end last night - but not at that time.

What a stupid idea that was. Perhaps it was a fireworks factory being hit by arsonists??

Moon Maiden

Some idiots are setting fireworks off on the Parson Cross area...air bombs :twisted: i know where i'd set them off but its rude and i would be locked up if i caught them

I heard some bangs last night at about 3.30am that woke me up. They sounded like they were coming from around the city centre area. As my window was open I could hear them quite clearly, and I would think most of Sheffield could within a 3-4 mile radius. What do these brain dead idiots gain from doing this?

It's almost 398 years ago, that in 1605, Guido Fawkes and a group of conspirators attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament (I, personally, am sorry that they failed).

There's still a month to go for the anniversary, yet, my neighbourhood is already ringing (or at least my ears are) with the bangs of fireworks.

Christmas, too, is already being 'pushed'.

Can't anyone 'wait' these days?

Too much of a hurry to respond fully but the Fireworks Bill has gone throuh the House of Lords and is here:

Fireworks Bill (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200203/ldbills/077/03077.i-iii.html)

It happens every year in Sheffield.

More info here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2619)

I can't be bothered to read all that bumf at this time in a morning. Anyone want to gime the jist of what this new bill means?

[COLOR=seagreen] carlwarker I have to agree with the fact that everyone these days are like eager beavers and cannot wait, its the whole i need it and i want it now culture that is making crimbo and the likes come earlier when i was a kid it always seemed to take forever to get to december but now you have july and then in the shops they already have the crimbo crap in and then boxing day we may as well get the easter eggs cracked open cos hey lets just roll everything into one!

Lewis Carroll had the right idea - we ought to celebrate un-Christmas every other day of the year then I doubt we'd have to put up with Christmas being forced on us in October.

I am sick of these things already this year. :mad:

Any one hearing loads of fireworks again tonight loads and loads going off again round longley tonight people must have plenty of money to burn.

or were they free ones?

shame the new laws won't stop supermarket deals.

is it true that loud fire works are a signal that a drug deal is about/has taken place or that drug are available to buy in some areas of sheffield???

I would be interested to know

hope not or i live in a bad area

But how would you find out where the fireworks are coming from?

clever but what is drugs asperin

:confused:

i doubt it - why would they advertise it?

more likely to be a sign that someone has set of a firework. Possibly it is Nov 5th, maybe the new year, or maybe someone was just celebrating a birthday.

bang!!!!!!! drugs must b flying about sorry it was a firework u muppet
ian l son

Dont be s stupid - firework a sign of a drug deal.

He police man, Im drug dealing, let firework off, come and arrest me.

DUHHH.

If it was, they'd be happening a lot more frequently....

This is sumthin i know happens . . .

Its usually in sleepy outter city villages and a single firework at a scheduled time, means the shop is open for business. .

I've heard this happen in areas such as meadowhead, ecclesfield and shiregreen. .

Hahahahahahahahaha, sorry but that's one of the funniest things I've read in a long time...

at one point where i live,the local muppets were throwing trainers tied together over the telephone wires.Someone told me that it was a sign of drug area.Can anyony throw any light on that?

Originally posted by ianl
clever but what is drugs asperin

I think it's something slightly stronger, and a LOT less legal than asperin mate.

Nah. . the trainers over phonelines thing is an americanism

Some sad dude in america loved his sneekers so much, when it came to replacing them, he wanted em to be on display forever.
Hence tying the shoelaces and launchin em over a high wire. . the idea spread and it eventually made it over here. .

just reading about the trainers thing...When I lived in the states, i heard its a gang thing. Warning to others. If there is a beating or 'they' want someone out, the trainers are stolen and displayed on the telephone wires. But I'm sure its now turned into a 'oooh look at me trainers!' thing.Or there is a LOT of gang turf war going on.

yeh the trainers thing is gang related, it's like marking your territory. In Tottenham in London they even throw different brands of trainers depending on which gang you're in, how childish is that?! haha

thats quite strange that this thread would come to my attention 2day, as i just heard a random firework on my way home n sum1 told me yet again about the firework/drug thing. i have been told by several people that wen the firework goes off then the people buying off the dealers know that the dealer is ready to make the deal and to go to a designated meeting area, therefore eliminating the chance of people finding out what time they are meeting etc. generally talkling about big deals though, not just random people getting it for themselves. i dunno.

bang how daft are peeps ,

how do they tell the difference between drug fireworks and clean fireworks?

do they come, with a gov warning? cocaine incorperated

Where i used to live fireworks were set off to drown the noise as people smashed car windows in order to burgle or steal the car

no trainers cost money, try doing active service

Don't you just love urban legends :)

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
how do they tell the difference between drug fireworks and clean fireworks?

the urine/ blood tests?

(sorry, just couldn't resist that one)

PT

The Fireworks thing does happen and there are rumours of others firing guns also. It's not when a deal happens etc it's when drugs have arrived to let others know there's something about. Different colours mean different things sometimes.

there must be a lot of confused drug dealers and the like whenever someone lets of a random firework then.

Jeez can you imagine what it'll be like on November the 5th?

"BANG!"

here we are mister policeman....just in case you couldnt find us we thought we'd make it easier...

You just put this up for a laugh. Very funny!!
You must have your reason for thinking its drugs related, what makes you thnk that?

They use the phone boxes around here as collection points, with the phone numbers in them so people can just order their drugs and have them delivered. How convenient!!

The police know who they are but won't do anything as usual. (Jellyfish in Blue)

Q: Fireworks and drugs - Is there a connection?
A: Yes, they are both anti-social activities with the letting off of fireworks the worst of the two!

My Nan lives in Worksop and she has mentioned this about the dealers letting fireworks off to announce they have got a delivery in. I just thought she had got confused, But this seems to tie in with what you are saying.

Back to thread if it isn't a signal for something as has been suggested, then why have some just gone off down the hill at 2.30 in the aftrenoon????:loopy: :loopy:

MOD - I've had to trim this a bit as it degenerated into a slanging match which would have been better off in the chat room.

removed by spook

Originally posted by spook
Of all the most ridiculous, far fetched, fanciful bits of abject nonsense i've ever heard, ever, this takes the biscuit. And bl**dy hell it's a big biscuit! :loopy:

Trust me - drug dealers do not have to set off a firework to let people know they've had a delivery. :rolleyes:

Well i do agree with you...but my Nan is 83!!! she thought it was top scandal!!!

I heard an isolated firework tonight at 9pm. I was tempted to inform the police about this theory. :D :D

Own up - who is the complete idiot who is letting off fireworks right now (12.40). I can hear them from here and since its daylight its a bit hard to tell where they're coming from, but I suspect Endcliffe/ Hunters Bar. Does anyone have a brain these days?

ha, it's raining now, that's shut the fools up!:)

Thank yourself lucky you don't live in Parson Cross if fireworks are a bother to you. There they go off everyday at all times of day or night.

haha we saw them, they were up in greystones, looked like glitter against the sun/rain!

Originally posted by t020
Own up - who is the complete idiot who is letting off fireworks right now (12.40). I can hear them from here and since its daylight its a bit hard to tell where they're coming from, but I suspect Endcliffe/ Hunters Bar. Does anyone have a brain these days?

If you are bothered by this, I suggest writing to your local MP like I did last year, I wrote to Hillsborough MP Mrs Helen Jackson regarding the menace and noisiness of fireworks after I was disturbed one night last year while trying to watch a film on Sky that I particularly wanted to watch but couldn't due to the continual BANG BANG BANG of fireworks.

I found FaxyourMP.com (http://www.faxyourmp.com) that night while Googling to find a way of getting in touch with the Government, sent a fax to Mrs Jackson on it and recieved a very pleasing 8 page response about the new legislation regarding use of fireworks a few days later.

So MPs do have their uses after all it seems... :lol:

At least it wasn't at gone midnight like last week!
Granma

As soon as the rain started earlier, someone a few doors down from me let off some fireworks. WHY?!

Originally posted by noseyrosie
As soon as the rain started earlier, someone a few doors down from me let off some fireworks. WHY?!

Cos they're daft.. :loopy:

I say ban the damn things!:evil:
Failing that, allow only approved organisations to run your mid summer, mid day displays. To enable such displays you should have to apply for approval from your surrounding neibourhood, as you would do when building an extension to your property for example.
As for Bonfire night, if we must still celebrate terrorism in this country and add to ozone depletion, can we make it on one night per year only, 5th November could be a good a day as any:rolleyes:between say, 6pm-9pm?:mad:
Roll on "After Dark 2004".............NOT!!!!:rant:

Never try to edit more than once!!!!!!:shakes:

Originally posted by claycraft
I say ban the damn things!:evil:
Failing that, allow only approved organisations to run your mid summer, mid day displays. To enable such displays you should have to apply for approval from your surrounding neibourhood, as you would do when building an extension to your property for example.
As for Bonfire night, if we must still celebrate terrorism in this country and add to ozone depletion, can we make it on one night per year only, 5th November could be a good a day as any:rolleyes:between say, 6pm-9pm?:mad:
Roll on "After Dark 2004".............NOT!!!!:rant:

Actually that's pretty much what Helen Jackson (Labour MP for Hillsborough and most of S6) said they're planning to do with regard to legislation about the sale and use of fireworks.

The current plan is to ban the sale of them to all but strictly organised event holders, and to slap ASBOs on numpties who abuse fireworks by setting them off in unsociable hours, with persistent offenders being chucked in the slammer.

I think a post run a few days ago
re reasons for fireworks go off, is important here. not to inflame the message board, I have been told that some fireworks are drug related. ie sihns that drug deal is going on.. perhaps the police should be informed?

Originally posted by crowefan
I think a post run a few days ago
re reasons for fireworks go off, is important here. not to inflame the message board, I have been told that some fireworks are drug related. ie sihns that drug deal is going on.. perhaps the police should be informed?

I can't see that being the case. Why would people want to annouce the fact that they've just done a drug deal? The last thing they want is to draw attention to themselves, which fireworks on a Sunday lunchtime tend to do.

It's not just unsociable hours.
Fireworks are used to injure people and animals.
There are some sick b*st*rds out there.
Granma

I think that it's more to do with little Jemima's birthday party than a drugs deal to be honest.

Originally posted by Tony
I think that it's more to do with little Jemima's birthday party than a drugs deal to be honest.

More than likely but even so, what kind of idiot lets off fireworks in daylight? I think its about time they were banned apart from November 5th and New Years Eve.

It's very annoying and can often make an area sound like a battle zone. One of my poor dogs is terrified when she hears fireworks and if I'm not there to try and calm her down she'll attempt to climb into corners such as behind the tv !

Originally posted by J-Blaze
Thank yourself lucky you don't live in Parson Cross if fireworks are a bother to you. There they go off everyday at all times of day or night. well thats bad for me then lol

Just think when it gets to November and then New Year - we'll all have had enough by then and another tradition could be lost.

Waste of money if you ask me.

Originally posted by t020
I can't see that being the case. Why would people want to annouce the fact that they've just done a drug deal? The last thing they want is to draw attention to themselves, which fireworks on a Sunday lunchtime tend to do.

It's not the dealers that set the fireworks off it's runners they have working for them. The drawing attention part is the whole reason they do it.

If people were setting fireworks off for a party surely at night would be a better idea? My father never set fireworks off for my birthday in the daytime.

I believe a licence should be required to purchase fireworks much like one would be required to buy demolition equipment. Either that or fireworks should only be sold for Nov 5th.

However there are so many fireworks around it would be hard to stop places selling them illegally. It would also open up a trade in illegal firework sales which would make more work for the police. And then there's the fact that if you don't have a licence and your setting them off for a party are people going to call the police on you?

a container load went 'missing' from Immingham or Grimsby docks late last year. Hmmmnnn?

Did anyone else hear fireworks being let off around 11pm last night?? Whats it all about?? Were not in Nov yet!

I know you can buy fireworks all year round but its a regular occurance in this area???

The people letting em off have no consideration for, shift workers, babies & young children and pets or their fellow neighbours in fact, they need an air bomb sticking where the sun dont shine and it lighting!

dont know but aren't the gov suppose to be bringing those new firework laws in this year.
none after 11pm.
only on bon fire night and new years eve.

In my opinion they should ban sales of fireworks to the public. They should only be allowed for organised public displays.

Here we go another one of my pet hates.

It's that time of year again August going on November :loopy:.
I really just don't get it, and what with today's fireworks being more like super bombs why is the law so relaxed.
Their must be some great income in it for the Goverment.

This is where my rant touches dodgy ground, I lived on Hinde House lane ( near Wincobank ) for 7 years and from September to about April it was a Nightmare.
It was the same when we moved to Elsecar near Rotherham.

Now living at Lodge Moor I can say in all honesty, we don't hear a thing except for Nov 5th and New years eve.
Where the residents club together for a safe private display.

What ever anyone say's, it DOES NOT ADD UP that poorer parts of the city spend so much on 10 seconds of smoke?
Their must be something in that.
I don't believe that these people are stupid just because of where they live.
Come on! what's it all about. it's INCONSIDERATE, SELFISH and very frightening for certain people and animals.
Not to mention expensive, have you seen some of the prices.
I just can't help and think how many albums, a good night out, new clothes ect...that would buy me.

As for that new law, well stopping fireworks after 11pm on Nov 5th and Dec 31st just is'nt good enough .
What about the rest of the year :loopy:

It's only a matter of time before someone is killed.
I think their was a least 2 local incidents last year where babys in their own homes were nearly killed.

Theese things are explosive weapons, I think those of us who find them intimidating should get armed in defence, but that would be maddness right. :huh:

Where's the sense in celebrating a TERRORIST anyway, as I keep saying :loopy:

Originally posted by Modesty
It's that time of year again August going on November :loopy:.
I really just don't get it, and what with today's fireworks being more like super bombs why is the law so relaxed.
Their must be some great income in it for the Goverment.


I would say that because most fireworks are sold in shops advertising "Chinese Fireworks" and less and less people buying British made Standard Fireworks, the goverment are making loads in import tax.

Not sure your rant is *that* dodgy. Pretty much everyone hates them (except for the little darlings who shove 'em through our letterboxes). The ones you see in displays are fine - even the displays folk put on in their back gardens.

But it's the "Chinese Ultra Super Mega Bomb" type stuff that all the kids seem to insist on buying (and too many shops seem to insist on selling...).

I also think fireworks should be banned except for public displays, like in France (where no-one seems to miss them). It'll be a shame that folks can't put their own displays on, but it's not the end of the world.

I live in Nether Edge and we get off (relatively) lightly, but it's still bloody annoying. My mate in Hillsborough had a right nightmare last year - said it like a war-zone all winter.

I really can't see the point in loud bangers and stuff, other than to be a nuisance, so it baffles me that there's even a debate about them. Just ban 'em already. Why do we need the personal freedom to make other people's lives a misery? As I said, legit private displays won't be possible any more, but there's a plus side to that too - it'll save lives and strain on the emergence services.

God I'm getting soooo old ;)

God i live in netheredge and ALL year round we get bloody fireworks. It really gets to me. Its so so stupid, and I'm not getting old!! They should only be on sale in November.

POORER AREAS= BRAINLESS PEOPLE ANNOYING EACH OTHER... WINCOBANK?? NO WONDER FIREWORKS WERE LET OFF THERE!! HAVE YOU SEEN THE FACES OF SOME PEOPLE LIVING THERE???????????
LOL!!

thiis could be an urban legend but i heard that the fireworks which you see all year round and at all hours are actually msge system relating to drug dealers? as far fetched as it sounds........

I live in Wincobank, & can assure you that I'm not particular poor, or at all brainless, & my face ain't that bad either!!

As you can probably see by this post, fireworks are not exclusive to Wincobank, does this mean the other areas of sheffield are "POORER AREAS= BRAINLESS PEOPLE ANNOYING EACH OTHER... WINCOBANK?? NO WONDER FIREWORKS WERE LET OFF THERE!! HAVE YOU SEEN THE FACES OF SOME PEOPLE LIVING THERE???????????
LOL!!

You're insulting most of Sheffield with your thoughtful & insightful analogy!!

i've seen that post on this forum before - they also said shoes dangling from telephone lines relates to drugs deals too.
i don't beleive it personally, i reckon it's just kids

Originally posted by MonkeyChops
I live in Wincobank, & can assure you that I'm not particular poor, or at all brainless, & my face ain't that bad either!!

As you can probably see by this post, fireworks are not exclusive to Wincobank, does this mean the other areas of sheffield are "POORER AREAS= BRAINLESS PEOPLE ANNOYING EACH OTHER... WINCOBANK?? NO WONDER FIREWORKS WERE LET OFF THERE!! HAVE YOU SEEN THE FACES OF SOME PEOPLE LIVING THERE???????????
LOL!!

You're insulting most of Sheffield with your thoughtful & insightful analogy!!

I aggree and I did'nt intend my comments to start a district war.

Can we get back on track to the thread.

agh! its comming to that time of year again that i hate soooo much. in high green you get all the kids sat on thorncliffe park with their little bonfires lighting firworks across the field instead of up in the air. my dog hates autum & winter as she cant go out for a walk, she is too scared bless her. they even sit on street corners letting fireworks off, i too think the govenment should ban the sale of fireworks. last year i was walking up the main road in high green when my mum dragged me up someones allyway to the back of their house, some idiot kids in a red nova shot a rocket at us from the car window. i'd be quite happy to pay to go to an orginised fireworks display if it means i can take my dog out for a walk & walk around safley. i went to the don valley bowl fire works display last year, even tho i didnt pay (we didnt buy tickets in advance & que was very long on the night) the stuards let us stand outside the fencing to watch the fire works where we met a couple from autralia. we had to explain to them what bonfire night was all about, they thought that we were still celebrating halloween. then the proceeded to tell us of the fireworks laws over there. they are very stricked as they had kids doing the same. now they are only have one event with fireworks & that is new year where it is a big orginised event which everyone enjoys.

if the govenment do ban fireworks there will be one thing that i will miss & thats going & sitting on jawborn hill & watching eveyones fireworks!

MOD: Bunch of firework related threads all merged

I did a forum Poll ages ago, 76% of people voted for a ban on the PUBLIC sale of fireworks...

Many years ago you only ever heard or could get fireworks around bonfire night when the british have a charming festival celebrating religious genoside in the name of the ruling elite! (Let's burn us a catholic!!!!) For some reason even tho there seems to be great doubt as to whether the gun power plot actually took place or king James needed an excuse to have a barbeque in the winter, we still burn the effigy of the great civil right activist guy fawkes!
My question! in Nether Edge tonight and last night there has been either a police shoot-out or some sort of firework letting off. I suspect the latter as you would prob have heard about a shoot-out that happen yesterday. Who is doing it? and what is it for? and did anyone else on here hear it? Please help you lot you are usually so well informed!
Nether Edge is so cool!!:thumbsup:

Originally posted by miniminch

My question! in Nether Edge tonight and last night there has been either a police shoot-out or some sort of firework letting off. I suspect the latter as you would prob have heard about a shoot-out that happen yesterday. Who is doing it? and what is it for? and did anyone else on here hear it? Please help you lot you are usually so well informed!
Nether Edge is so cool!!:thumbsup:

It's a wedding celebration on Wake Road. Due to finish all celebrations on the 16th

My 'Should the public sale of fireworks be banned' poll from 2-3 months ago is at
http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12533

Last time I looked, 76% of pollers wanted a ban...
Why not vote?

Originally posted by draggletail

Why not vote?

Can I vote once for myself and once for each of my cats ho would dearly love to go about their usual feline business of sleeping, eating and sleeping without being scared witless.

IMHO, fireworks should be sold from the 1st to the 5th of November, by STRICTLY licensed sellers. Cash and Carry stores such as Makro and JTF should be barred from selling fireworks altogether.

Originally posted by Squiggs
It's a wedding celebration on Wake Road. Due to finish all celebrations on the 16th
Cheers squiggser! lets hopeit will not be the only impressive bang that the lovely couple will enjoy over the next few years!!:thumbsup:

first of all i hate fireworks too! think they should just have them for organised events! and second of all i've also heard that big drug dealers use them to alert other dealers when they've got a delivery! not being a drug dealer myself i couldn't say how true it is! i guess we'll never know!

Oh you sad people! I LOVE fireworks - it's a tradition in our family that we set them off at special family events such as birthdays, weddings etc. Always at a reasonable hour - between about 7 and 10pm, and our cats are completely unconcerned by them. Other countries have far fewer restrctions than we do, and yet don't get the complaints we get.
Just go out and buy a few, set then off and be amazed by the beauty of them, and remember, not all fireworks make a noise!

Originally posted by clogginchris
Oh you sad people! I LOVE fireworks - it's a tradition in our family that we set them off at special family events such as birthdays, weddings etc. Always at a reasonable hour - between about 7 and 10pm, and our cats are completely unconcerned by them. Other countries have far fewer restrctions than we do, and yet don't get the complaints we get.
Just go out and buy a few, set then off and be amazed by the beauty of them, and remember, not all fireworks make a noise!

Fact: Dogs, CATS and any other animals out there hate fireworks, maybe you have something wrong with your cats.
Check out the link further back re RSPCA petition to government about this issue
Can you name the 'other countries' that have fewer restrictions than ours that you refer to? - I would be suprised, I know of no restricions in this country, to the contrary, they where relaxed early 80s when Mrs Thatch opened up imports of dangerous chinese 'bomb like' fireworks (because of trade policies)
And if you and your family where lettting fireworks of at 10pm (as you say) when I had to get up at 6.30 am I might be less than happy
Vote here on an old post either way ' should there be a ban on the PUBLIC sale of fireworks.http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12533

There's nothing wrong with my cats thank you very much - very normal felines. As for other countries with fewer restrictions, well you could start with Spain - have you ever been to a Carrefoc?

BTW, my neighbours dogs don't mind fireworks either

Well, no clogginchris, I have never been to the 'Carrefoc' (as you suspected)
But I would be interested to hear of YOUR experience of it. Please tell!
Seriously.

OK, I will try and describe a Carrefoc! It is usually part of the Spanish Fiesta, especailly in towns aroud Barcelona, in the Catalan area.

In small towns, around 5000 people gather in the town square - you have to wear cotton or natural fibre clothes, bandanas and sunglasses - to make usure you you don't get set alight!

There is loud music, and people dressed as "devils" or "dragons", and you begin a parade around the sqaures of the village. In each square, firreworks are lit - mainly above the square, ie above you! Everyone is showered with sparks, and you expect to get set alight! hence the cotton, and bandanas!
It continues for about 2 hours, and the fireworks get better and better as the night progresses - they are in peoples hats, hands etc - would never be allowed here!

Just read my post above and realised it doesn't do justice to a carrefoc - will try and find a link that describes it better!
I also used to work in the far east where fireworks are a way of life for them, hence my preference for chinese ones - no one out there complains like we do

It sounds absolutely brilliant!
It obviously works well in that culture, where people (seem to) treat fireworks in a responsible way.
Fireworks have a cultural context in this country, of course, being the gunpowder plot, but I think that is largely lost these days, Fireworks are not mostly being used in a social/cultural/responsible context whatsoever.

As I have said in other post:
Fireworks, ban the public sale of them.
Organised Firework displays only by the local government (I personally would be happy for it to come out of council tax)
And firework displays by regulated private companies.
All the main Sheff. parks used to have one before 'Don valley' swamped it ( and took the soul out of it)

Originally posted by clogginchris
Oh you sad people! I LOVE fireworks - it's a tradition in our family that we set them off at special family events such as birthdays, weddings etc. Always at a reasonable hour - between about 7 and 10pm, and our cats are completely unconcerned by them. Other countries have far fewer restrctions than we do, and yet don't get the complaints we get.
Just go out and buy a few, set then off and be amazed by the beauty of them, and remember, not all fireworks make a noise!

Ok that's fair enough.
Just as long you and your cats and not forgetting your neighbours dog is happy that's Great.

Don't they let Bulls loose around the streets as well in Spain,
Brilliant!

clogginchris, 5,000 people at a public display of fireworks is not what forum members are complaining about. It's the selfish people who set them off at family get togethers and any other excuse who upset the majority of posters on this subject.

Read some of the comments on this and the poll thread and you'll see that, in general, people are in favour of public firework displays.

As to other countires being less restrictive, I can honestly say that all the time I have spent abroad, either living there or on holiday, I have never heard or seen personal firework displays.

I cannot see any point whatsoever in letting off fireworks at a family gathering.

I would say that letting kids and irresponsible adults handling fireworks is the biggest problem - tying fireworks to pets and blowing up phoneboxes.

There are some stunning visual displays made from rockets, but as long as manufacturers continue to make explosives that just bang, they threaten their livelihood becuase the government will eventually bow to public pressure and ban them all.

9.30am ish yesterday I had to listen to a multiple repeater make its 30-odd explosions and then again at about 8.00pm.
Not against the law so presumably the Government doesn't think it terrifies animals in daylight hours or disturb people wanting a weekend rest?
It's time to ban anything that makes a "bang" altogether.
Feel free to set them off outside Blunkett's house until something is done about this nuisance.

Originally posted by draggletail
Fact: Dogs, CATS and any other animals out there hate fireworks, maybe you have something wrong with your cats.
Check out the link further back re RSPCA petition to government about this issue
Can you name the 'other countries' that have fewer restrictions than ours that you refer to? - I would be suprised, I know of no restricions in this country, to the contrary, they where relaxed early 80s when Mrs Thatch opened up imports of dangerous chinese 'bomb like' fireworks (because of trade policies)
And if you and your family where lettting fireworks of at 10pm (as you say) when I had to get up at 6.30 am I might be less than happy
Vote here on an old post either way ' should there be a ban on the PUBLIC sale of fireworks.http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12533

there is nothing wrong with his cats. you can train your animals to get used to loud bangs & fireworks sounds it is a good thing but some animals have been shocked by loud bangs while in the womb or just after birth which scares them for life!

Originally posted by draggletail
Fact: Dogs, CATS and any other animals out there hate fireworks, maybe you have something wrong with your cats.

Well I personally know several dogs who wouldn't flinch if you fired a gun next to them, let alone a firework.

Bet it'd make 'em bark for so long that the neighbours were going white with anger, though
;)

Originally posted by clogginchris
There's nothing wrong with my cats thank you very much - very normal felines. As for other countries with fewer restrictions, well you could start with Spain - have you ever been to a Carrefoc?
My neigbours dog went last year and returned a shadow of his former self. We had to put him in pshyciatric kennels for six weeks. Thanks a lot Attenborough.:mad:

I think I'll start an urban myth that Al-Queda operatives plan to modify fireworks as a cheap and easy way of spreading bio/chemical agents over a wide area. We might get the ******s banned then!

Originally posted by skala
first of all i hate fireworks too! think they should just have them for organised events! and second of all i've also heard that big drug dealers use them to alert other dealers when they've got a delivery! not being a drug dealer myself i couldn't say how true it is! i guess we'll never know!

I spoke to someone 'in the know' at the weekend. It is ABSOLUTELY true. It is to alert people on the estates that the dealer is in the area and open for business.