David icke a man who deserves to be respected and recognised.everyone should listen [Archive]

Titian

13-10-2006, 12:13

I have read "the biggest secret" and with an open mind, I hasten to add.

For me though it's a bit beyond anything that could be truth. My opinion of David Ike was solidified when I saw him on (of all things) through the keyhole years ago and a documentary about him.

In "through the keyhole" he had a small bookshelf with his favourite insiprational books on, all of them were like childhood science fiction that you find in a charity shop as those who bought them originally thought they were tosh too. This sparked my doubts about his sanity if these were his "reference" books. It also appeared that his wife had kicked him out and he was forced to live in some type of bedsit.

In the documentary his was just plain rude and offensive to people and had the behaviour patterns of someone with mental illness. This made me doubt his credibility. He doesn't convinve me of anything in the slightest.

he's made a nice living out of it so good luck to him. My advice is that someone with mental illness can appear very plausible and convincing, keep your wits about you.

feargal

13-10-2006, 12:15

when you are ready for a serious conversation i am here but until then buzz off:loopy: :loopy: :loopy: :loopy: :loopy: :loopy: :loopy: :loopy: :loopy:
That's quite rude. Not really spreading the love, are you?:nono:

If you want to read a bit more about Icke, then Jon Ronson interviewed him for (I think) his book "Them". It seemed that his ramblings about lizards and higher powers were linked to the anti-Jew/Zionist theories (covered on this forum recently). Icke also cited lots of documents, some of which contained blatantly anti-semitic writings and cartoons.

He's not as all-loving as he's made out to be. As Titian says, he gave the impression of someone struggling with a lot of mental health issues.

Titian

13-10-2006, 12:17

That's quite rude. Not really spreading the love, are you?:nono:

He's not as all-loving as he's made out to be.

And that was my feeling too, if he's delivering the truth to the human race he could at least be nice with it, not some kind of thug with attitude.

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 12:17

Yeah being nasty to poor, nice old Jabberwock! You ought to be ashamed!!

:D

Mrs Goose

13-10-2006, 12:22

Everything David Icke says is true. Look here for photographic proof if you don't believe me:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidicke/58277542/

Mrs Goose

13-10-2006, 12:23

...and I am a real goose

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 12:48

That's quite rude. Not really spreading the love, are you?:nono:

If you want to read a bit more about Icke, then Jon Ronson interviewed him for (I think) his book "Them". It seemed that his ramblings about lizards and higher powers were linked to the anti-Jew/Zionist theories (covered on this forum recently). Icke also cited lots of documents, some of which contained blatantly anti-semitic writings and cartoons.

He's not as all-loving as he's made out to be. As Titian says, he gave the impression of someone struggling with a lot of mental health issues.
I am not being rude with my reply to jabberwocky.I am merely responding to his comment to me about flies.i send him much love because he obviously needs it because he is not open to the realities of the world.It is easy for you all to condemn David Icke if you are not aware of the great things that he has done or achieved.you all need to do your research and you will be enlightened and be qualified to dismiss someone for being different and prepared to tell the truth.much love and oneness to you all:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love::

Titian

13-10-2006, 12:51

Apart from reading his books, following his "work" and seeing him appearing live, what other research do you suggest?

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 12:52

Sod the love SEND ME LUST!!!!!

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 13:01

Apart from reading his books, following his "work" and seeing him appearing live, what other research do you suggest?
you are entitled to your own point of view and i respect this.I am not trying to convince anyone i am just seeing if there are any likeminded people i can talk to.I would be very interested in how you came to your conclusion of David Icke and why you doubt him so much:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 13:02

[QUOTE=Jabberwocky]Sod the love SEND ME LUST!!!!![/QUOT

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 13:05

[QUOTE=Jabberwocky]Sod the love SEND ME LUST!!!!![/QUOT
If its lust you are looking for i suggest you send a better picture of yourself:D

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 13:06

[QUOTE=Lisa68]
If its lust you are looking for i suggest you send a better picture of yourself:D
Stop pretending to be so coy! You know im sexy! :D

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 13:07

Did Icke write a book about the general public being like robots once? I remember it vaguely and it seemed interesting. Id like to read that one.

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 13:10

Did Icke write a book about the general public being like robots once? I remember it vaguely and it seemed interesting. Id like to read that one.
if you are really interested in his books then you can purchase them at waterstones or your local library.yes,you are sexy, i was only kidding!:rolleyes:

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 13:14

torin8

13-10-2006, 13:16

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 13:19

Im going to get it in the neck for this, but I am interested in some of his work, I regularly read his web site.

He doesnt come across as nutty as people would like to think he is. Its like... the fashion to say hes a fruit loop.
thanks for your honesty.you are right it is the fashion to insult David Icke.I just wish people would take the time to read his ideas in a non judgemental way and come to their own decisions.I respect everyones oppinions.It may have been the fashion a long time ago but the fashion is running out rapidly as more and more people are waking up to the truth.just look at the world around you and the truth is there.The truth shall set you free.:love: :love:

feargal

13-10-2006, 13:27

My own research was based on reading some of his work, reading about him and watching/reading interviews with him. It doesn't change my opinion that he is a man who tries to disguise his prejudices against people of certain religious/ethnic backgrounds and beliefs with a veneer of "endearing nuttiness".

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 13:29

Wasnt it The Wogan show where he was made to look like a complete loon? After that people have never let him forget.

Chit sticks im afraid.

SpeedwayDan

13-10-2006, 13:32

hahaha, so people actually do believe his ramblings then :hihi: :huh:

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 13:33

hahaha, so people actually do believe his ramblings then :hihi: :huh:
Well people believe mine! :D

feargal

13-10-2006, 13:38

Wasnt it The Wogan show where he was made to look like a complete loon? After that people have never let him forget.
Yep, that was the start (with the turquoise shellsuit), but he's not really improved since. He always seems to spend the first half of the interview bringing that up, and the second trying to make you forget it, but with poor reasoning and a complete inability to answer any questions put to him! He's his own worst enemy really. :rolleyes:

slimsid2000

13-10-2006, 13:43

Any one out there heard or seen of the great David Icke? we went to see him in london in may and he was amazing.If you want to find out the truth about your world read his amazing books.anyone who went to his seminar who has read any of his books we would love to hear from you.Infinate love is the only truth EVERYTHING ELSE IS ILLUSION.:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

Sorry but he's a total fruitcake. I find it hard to believe that anyone can take him or his potty opinions seriously.

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 14:03

Well he's had many years to perfect it...

IMHO he's a loon - end of story.:loopy:
ignorance is bliss so they say!if you prefer to live with your eyes closed to the truth that is your right but do not insult people who are trying to free the world!How can anyone be a loon who promotes infinate love!:)

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 14:05

miniminch

13-10-2006, 14:10

He's no more nutty than say catholicism which really does take some leaps of faith to believe. Don't be so closed off - open your ears to all the possibilities and hold your media driven opinions back until your own ones surface into the light. That way you become a better person. Im off to the mosque now!:love:

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 14:10

Wasnt it The Wogan show where he was made to look like a complete loon? After that people have never let him forget.

Chit sticks im afraid.
which wogan show are you referring?the first show he was taken out of context and has proven so in his books and also on the second wogan show where he was more warmly welcomed and won the respect of the audience.If people cant forget that episode then it is their loss and it shows the small mindness of people.David Icke promotes love and oneness that is the only message that is important.This seems to be the point that people tend to miss.:) :)

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 14:12

which wogan show are you referring?the first show he was taken out of context and has proven so in his books and also on the second wogan show where he was more warmly welcomed and won the respect of the audience.If people cant forget that episode then it is their loss and it shows the small mindness of people.David Icke promotes love and oneness that is the only message that is important.This seems to be the point that people tend to miss.:) :)
The trouble is its human nature to remember the bad things and overlook the good isnt it?

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 14:12

hahaha, so people actually do believe his ramblings then :hihi: :huh:
David Icke does not ramble he only tells the truth.Where is your evidence that he rambles.I would love to hear your views.:)

feargal

13-10-2006, 14:14

Lisa, have you read anything about Icke which wasn't written by the man himself?

Hecate

13-10-2006, 14:15

David Icke does not ramble he only tells the truth.Where is your evidence that he rambles.I would love to hear your views.:)
Do you believe all his theories? Which 'truth' are you referring to specifically? Or do you just admire him for promoting 'love and oneness'?

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 14:17

Yep, that was the start (with the turquoise shellsuit), but he's not really improved since. He always seems to spend the first half of the interview bringing that up, and the second trying to make you forget it, but with poor reasoning and a complete inability to answer any questions put to him! He's his own worst enemy really. :rolleyes:
What show have you watched?David Icke can answer any question put to him,do you understand anything about editing?the show wants to put David in a bad light so people believe what the programme wants them to believe .:)

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 14:19

Sorry but he's a total fruitcake. I find it hard to believe that anyone can take him or his potty opinions seriously.
you are entitled to your own oppinion.what evidence do you base this on?:)

feargal

13-10-2006, 14:20

What show have you watched?David Icke can answer any question put to him,do you understand anything about editing?the show wants to put David in a bad light so people believe what the programme wants them to believe .:)
You're probably right. It'll be that evildoer Terry Wogan and his scheme for world domination and the suppression of the truthful and righteous path. :rolleyes:

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 14:21

Well personally Im up for giving anybody a fair go and i make my own judgements and i like reading his stuff.

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 14:21

You're probably right. It'll be that evildoer Terry Wogan and his scheme for world domination and the suppression of the truthful and righteous path. :rolleyes:
I just KNEW that wogan had ulterior motives!!!!

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 14:31

Do you believe all his theories? Which 'truth' are you referring to specifically? Or do you just admire him for promoting 'love and oneness'?the reality of our which has been scientificly proven,how the world is run,the manipulation,things he predicted which have now come true etc.The list is endless.glad to talk to you more if you want.:)

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 14:33

You're probably right. It'll be that evildoer Terry Wogan and his scheme for world domination and the suppression of the truthful and righteous path. :rolleyes:
Did you know that Terry Wogan actually apologised to David Icke for how he treat him on the first show.:)

Green Web

13-10-2006, 14:37

I just KNEW that wogan had ulterior motives!!!!

Can u remember when Wogan wouldnt do them press ups for Children in need?

feargal

13-10-2006, 14:39

What about subsequent interviews? Such as the other Wogan one, or the more recent Jon Ronson one? To me, he didn't come across very well in those either. BTW, I think those Wogan shows were live, so the possibility of them being cleverly edited to manipulate the viewer isn't really feasible. The Ronson one wasn't live though, so I'll let you have that!

Lisa68

13-10-2006, 14:42

Phanerothyme

13-10-2006, 14:53

StarSparkle

13-10-2006, 15:02

Did you know that Terry Wogan actually apologised to David Icke for how he treat him on the first show.:)

I'm not surprised if this is the case.

I'm not making any comment about David Icke - but Terry Wogan did make a bad habit of trying to ridicule some of his guests, which if nothing else is incredibly bad manners. If you've invited someone on your show, have the decency to treat them with some respect.

The time when Vivienne Westwood was on his show - with a selection of her designs for the forthcoming season - was a particularly nasty example. She was ridiculed and humiliated throughout her time-slot by presenter and audience alike - it was very unpleasant to watch, and I felt embarrassed for anyone connected with the programme - it was an unbelievably nasty and unprofessional showing.

StarSparkle

Halibut

13-10-2006, 15:10

I'm not making any comment about David Icke

Odd, I thought this thread was about him?

Lisa68, do you personally believe all of mr Ickes theories? For example that the Queen is a Satanist, child - killer and shape-shifting reptilian? I wonder if you could share any of Mr Ickes evidence for this belief with us please as it seems a rather unusual thing to believe about our monarch without strong evidence. I wonder who the children are that Queen Elizabeth has killed?
Thanks in anticipation of your reply.

Hecate

13-10-2006, 15:14

Halibut

13-10-2006, 15:18

Wasn't it the Queen Mother who was the giant, blood-drinking, child-sacrificing lizard? :suspect:

Well Hec sweetie, if was the dear old Queen Mum then I guess that makes Liz the daughter of a child killing, satanist, shapeshifting lizard....

Which is nice.

But still a little unusual in one's monarch.....

LordChaverly

13-10-2006, 15:18

Hecate

13-10-2006, 15:28

Well Hec sweetie, if was the dear old Queen Mum then I guess that makes Liz the daughter of a child killing, satanist, shapeshifting lizard....

Which is nice.

But still a little unusual in one's monarch.....
It's a profoundly serious discussion, Hal! It's important to know exactly which member of the Royal family is/was doing the infanticide and consorting with Beelzebub...

JFKvsNixon

13-10-2006, 15:31

I remember David Icke was thrown out of Canada a few years ago for anti semetic remarks. He was touring the tv and radio stations telling everybody that alien lizards ruled the world. He was saying that the royal family, Clinton etc were all shape shifting alien lizards.

Everybody kept on saying that he was using lizards as a metaphor for Jewish people, he said that the lizards run the banking systems etc.

It did not matter how much he protested and said that he was not talking about Jewish people nobody thought that he was actually mad enough to think that shape shifting lizards rule the world.

Its seems like he is a mad individual in a mad world.
__________________

LordChaverly

13-10-2006, 15:41

The lizard king is dead. I have visited his grave on several occasions and can confirm that he is no more.

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 15:42

Can u remember when Wogan wouldnt do them press ups for Children in need?
Yeahhh come to think of it I DO remember that!

Halibut

13-10-2006, 15:43

The lizard king is dead. I have visited his grave on several occasions and can confirm that he is no more.

A sad loss too; but if Mr Morrison is out of the frame, who's pulling the strings?
Eddie Izzard?

His name sounds a bit like lizard.........

Tony

13-10-2006, 15:54

Mod note:

Starsparkle, Halibut and Hecate... let's not shall we? I've deleted the dross. Next time it will be quicker to dish out a forum holiday.

Starsparkle and Halibut, the pair of you need to simply put each other on ignore and stop involving the rest of the forum in your spats.

nick2

13-10-2006, 16:13

The time when Vivienne Westwood was on his show - with a selection of her designs for the forthcoming season - was a particularly nasty example.

Especially when you consider that she is one of the most famous and talented designers we have, the fact that Terry would never wear anything more outrageous than a pink tie puts him in no possition to criticise her work.

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 16:15

Oh god yeahhhh I remember that interview. She threatened to leave if the auduence didnt stop laughing. Wogan was encouraging them.

nick2

13-10-2006, 16:30

Grace Jones had the right idea about how to handle difficult chat show hosts.

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 16:31

Good slappin`?

sccsux

13-10-2006, 17:04

i am just seeing if there are any likeminded people i can talk to.

I really didn't think anybody took him seriously? I doubt you'll find the responses on here the kind you're looking for:).

I would be very interested in how you came to your conclusion of David Icke and why you doubt him so much

Probably 'cause he's a loon:loopy:?

the fashion to say hes a fruit loop.

Or a statement of fact:D.

But still a little unusual in one's monarch.....

Indeed. Not the sort of thing you hear everyday:hihi:

Ann*

13-10-2006, 18:02

David Icke ~ the loony who, on live telly on Terry Wogan's chat show, declared that he was the second coming!

C'mon Lisa, are you really that gullible! :loopy:

Jabberwocky

13-10-2006, 19:12

David Icke ~ the loony who, on live telly on Terry Wogan's chat show, declared that he was the second coming!

C'mon Lisa, are you really that gullible! :loopy:

Yeah right.

after all, IM the second coming, EVERYBODY knows that! :D

Titian

13-10-2006, 19:34

you are entitled to your own point of view and i respect this.I am not trying to convince anyone i am just seeing if there are any likeminded people i can talk to.I would be very interested in how you came to your conclusion of David Icke and why you doubt him so much:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

I think I explained how I came to my conclusion here:

I have read "the biggest secret" and with an open mind, I hasten to add.

For me though it's a bit beyond anything that could be truth. My opinion of David Ike was solidified when I saw him on (of all things) through the keyhole years ago and a documentary about him.

In "through the keyhole" he had a small bookshelf with his favourite insiprational books on, all of them were like childhood science fiction that you find in a charity shop as those who bought them originally thought they were tosh too. This sparked my doubts about his sanity if these were his "reference" books. It also appeared that his wife had kicked him out and he was forced to live in some type of bedsit.

In the documentary he was just plain rude and offensive to people and had the behaviour patterns of someone with mental illness. This made me doubt his credibility. He doesn't convinve me of anything in the slightest.

he's made a nice living out of it so good luck to him. My advice is that someone with mental illness can appear very plausible and convincing, keep your wits about you.

I'm willing to be convinced otherwise though so try me. ;)

Titian

13-10-2006, 19:40

taxman

13-10-2006, 19:44

I recall that he threw a great big wobbly at the radio receptionist too. That kind of turned me off him a lot. Why shoot the messenger??? :loopy:

Does that mean you were turned on with him previously? :hihi:

Titian

13-10-2006, 19:50

Does that mean you were turned on with him previously? :hihi:

Yeah, I know. I thought that too after posting. He's too young for me. :hihi:

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 11:11

David Icke ~ the loony who, on live telly on Terry Wogan's chat show, declared that he was the second coming!

C'mon Lisa, are you really that gullible! :loopy:

it is a pity that some people hold a grudge about something that happened 15 years ago.Have you read his latest work? An enormous transformation has since happened.I am not gullible just open to other peoples oppinions and this should be respected whether you disagree or not.Insults are not an oppinion.People need to have an open mind and not condemn someone whose only mission is to free the world.:love:

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 11:18

I think I explained how I came to my conclusion here:

I'm willing to be convinced otherwise though so try me. ;)
I think the introduction of the microchip implant in the future will convince you,which the ID card is a stepping stone.if you have done your research you will know that David Icke warned us If you have looked at the newspapers recently you are now going to have to wear a microchip on your wrist to be able to fly.Need i say more?In America the microchip has been launched with massive publicity so watch this space.:love:

Jabberwocky

14-10-2006, 11:19

*******

Naughty naughty

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 11:30

Lisa, have you read anything about Icke which wasn't written by the man himself?
Absolutely there are people around the world who are backing up Davids work, in book forms, radio talk shows,and if he was insane has people are trying to make out then people would not waste their time making documentaries on him.Look out for a new documentary which is coming out on channel 5 entitled WAS DAVID ICKE RIGHT?.You might want to go on DavidIcke.com or Infowars.com with Alex Jones.Lots of credible people back up David Ickes work.Hope this has been helpful:love: :love: :love: :love:

Tony

14-10-2006, 11:33

An excellent post Lisa68. David Icke and Alex Jones in the same sentence!

I applaud you! :clap:

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 11:34

read David Icke in his own (selected) words. He's bought into someone else's NWO conspiracy. He used to claim he was channeling the Christ Spirit and wore a lot of turquoise.
http://www.publiceye.org/Icke/Ickequotes.htm
David Icke went through his own transformation.If someone else is saying the same thing as David then this just proves my point.thanks for that.:love: :love:

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 11:45

Odd, I thought this thread was about him?

Lisa68, do you personally believe all of mr Ickes theories? For example that the Queen is a Satanist, child - killer and shape-shifting reptilian? I wonder if you could share any of Mr Ickes evidence for this belief with us please as it seems a rather unusual thing to believe about our monarch without strong evidence. I wonder who the children are that Queen Elizabeth has killed?
Thanks in anticipation of your reply.
This is not David Ickes idea of shape shifting reptiles.Going to 40 different countries, on his travels he came across members of the public who approached him on this subject.Obviously being from different countries,he thought he had to get the information out to the public at large.This is Davids role,to obtain information and to share with the public information that does not normally get into the public arena.The media just gives you one version of the events,David gives you information and allows you to make up your own mind.The story of shapeshifting reptilians goes back thousands of years and David Icke is not unique in this subject.This can be researched.The allegations about the royal family should be open for debate, there are lots of things happening in the world that we are not aware of and the reptilian theme is not even the tip of the iceberg.Research has gone a lot further than this now.:love: :love: :love: :love:

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 11:47

Wasn't it the Queen Mother who was the giant, blood-drinking, child-sacrificing lizard? :suspect:
Please tell me where you have got this information from and give me your views on what you have read.:love: :love: :love:

Tony

14-10-2006, 11:48

Do you think that the world is run by shape shifting reptilians?

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 11:51

At least some of the founders of the world's great religions (or major religious sects) were probably just as deluded, or just as cynically mendacious, as Icke. Its his misfortune to have been born in an age where bizarre claims of the kind he regularly makes tend not to be taken at their face value (although Ron Hubbard managed to make a good living out of the new 'religion' he founded).
Why is it that when anyone comes out with a different version of reality which can be backed up by credible information,they become a religious leader in some peoples eyes?Do you say that to your teachers when you first start your education?:love: :love: :love:

taxman

14-10-2006, 11:52

Do you think that the world is run by shape shifting reptilians?

It would explain George Dubya

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 11:58

[QUOTE=JFKvsNixon]I remember David Icke was thrown out of Canada a few years ago for anti semetic remarks. He was touring the tv and radio stations telling everybody that alien lizards ruled the world. He was saying that the royal family, Clinton etc were all shape shifting alien lizards.

Everybody kept on saying that he was using lizards as a metaphor for Jewish people, he said that the lizards run the banking systems etc.

It did not matter how much he protested and said that he was not talking about Jewish people nobody thought that he was actually mad enough to think that shape shifting lizards rule the world.

Its seems like he is a mad individual in a mad world.
__________________[/QUO There is a media frenzy about disproving David Icke all the time.you either believe the media or look at the evidence yourself with an open mind. There is no sufficient evidence to show that David Icke has ever been anti-semetic or that he was thrown out of Canada.:love: :love:

Tony

14-10-2006, 12:02

Go on... tell us what you think ;)
Do you think that the world is run by shape shifting reptilians?

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 12:08

Do you think that the world is run by shape shifting reptilians?
Judging what is happening in quantum physics now, I wouldnt be too surprised!There is a great film on quantum physics out now WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW? Also a great book called HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE by Michael Talbot which is a must read for people who dare venture where others wont.Good luck on your research!This will definately back up Davids work.:love: :love:

Tony

14-10-2006, 12:09

But do YOU think that the world is run by shape shifting reptilians, like David Icke does?

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 12:09

:love: :love: :love: It would explain George Dubya
well said!:love: :love:

saxon51

14-10-2006, 12:10

Is it pure coincidence that he has David Icke in the middle of his name?

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 12:11

Go on... tell us what you think ;)
Read the above and you will see my answer!:love: :love:

Tony

14-10-2006, 12:16

Go on - tell us properly without referring us to what other people think. ;)

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 12:18

Is it pure coincidence that he has David Icke in the middle of his name?
I bet you're good at scrabble!Am I talking to George Dubya?:love: :love:

Ann*

14-10-2006, 16:28

it is a pity that some people hold a grudge about something that happened 15 years ago.Have you read his latest work? An enormous transformation has since happened.I am not gullible just open to other peoples oppinions and this should be respected whether you disagree or not.Insults are not an oppinion.People need to have an open mind and not condemn someone whose only mission is to free the world.:love:
Lisa, I don't need to read anything! Also, I do not bear a grudge, as you put it!

He was on a tv programme only a few months' ago, and he was still spouting the same deluded rubbish.

Also, you say that you're open to other people's opinions, but everytime those opinions are expressed, you're telling those opinion-givers that they should read a book! That is not being open to other people's opinions, but just you trying to convert people to your way of thinking, because you seem to believe that only your beliefs are right.

You are really beginning to sound as though you've been brainwashed by a religious cult. You joined SF two days' ago, in which time you have made 40 posts, 30 of which are on this thread, and nearly every post you have made on this thread has been nearly identical to the last, in which you keep telling people to read a book, but you do not express anything that actually comes from you. Do you actually have anything else to say that is going to come from your head, or is it that you are now incapable of expressing your own view?

saxon51

14-10-2006, 16:40

I bet you're good at scrabble!Am I talking to George Dubya?:love: :love:
No. Carol Vorderman's secret lover.:thumbsup:

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 17:17

Lisa, I don't need to read anything! Also, I do not bear a grudge, as you put it!

He was on a tv programme only a few months' ago, and he was still spouting the same deluded rubbish.

Also, you say that you're open to other people's opinions, but everytime those opinions are expressed, you're telling those opinion-givers that they should read a book! That is not being open to other people's opinions, but just you trying to convert people to your way of thinking, because you seem to believe that only your beliefs are right.

You are really beginning to sound as though you've been brainwashed by a religious cult. You joined SF two days' ago, in which time you have made 40 posts, 30 of which are on this thread, and nearly every post you have made on this thread has been nearly identical to the last, in which you keep telling people to read a book, but you do not express anything that actually comes from you. Do you actually have anything else to say that is going to come from your head, or is it that you are now incapable of expressing your own view?
It is like banging your head against a wall with some people.The reason I have posted a lot of posts is that I have been asked questions and being a polite person I am answering them.I do not expect to be insulted for my beliefs.This is a free country as far as free speech goes and by the way who is counting?I suggest reading a book because Obviously I have not got the space to tell you everything and I respect people enough to let them do their own research.It is up to you whether you believe me or not I am only passing on information by request.If you have read all the posts as you claim to have you will see this.I dont know where you have got religious cult from I have not even mentioned religion those are your words not mine.If you want to have a civil conversation or have any further questions please contact me.:love: :love: :love:

fox20thc

14-10-2006, 17:20

My question is... if you are a support of david ike is is mandatory to put :love: :love: at the end of every post ;)

blip

14-10-2006, 17:29

NPB!

14-10-2006, 17:44

No. Carol Vorderman's secret lover

You lucky git ;)

Jabberwocky

14-10-2006, 17:47

Why doesn't this statement surprise me?
Well you SHOULD be surprised! That was the first insane thing ive said. Ever!

saxon51

14-10-2006, 17:52

You lucky git ;)
So secret, even she doesn't know about it.:(

Lisa68

14-10-2006, 18:33

My question is... if you are a support of david ike is is mandatory to put :love: :love: at the end of every post ;)
I am spreading my infinate love and happiness to everybody and I love the symbol.:love: :love:

sccsux

15-10-2006, 13:30

If someone else is saying the same thing as David

I think you misunderstand.

Icke copied someone else's delusional notions, not the way you try make it sound:loopy:

happyhippy

15-10-2006, 15:53

Icke makes ME appear sane! I wont hear a word said against him! Hes good for my image.

I wouldn't quite go that far, but in my opinion he is indeed as mad as a pint of chips.

johnbradley

15-10-2006, 18:10

at this point i would like to state the following:

i think that there have been numerous theories of alien/human interbreeding over the last couple of thousand years, a tradition that icke and his mates are continuing to this day.

i also think that at the top of the political, financial and aristocratic hierachies there are some powerful (and often linked by family/heritage) affliations. It is clear that they can and sometimes do influence events on a global scale.

The move towards a centralised 'world government', with id cards and all the associated cack, is happening, and will result in further restriction of civil liberties, overtly for the 'safety' of the citizen but supplant that word for 'subjugation' and we have something closer to the truth.

the notion that we are simply here in isolation, on a planet whos conditions are so unique as to preclude the chance of intelligent life elsewhere, is dodgier than the smell exuding from my fila trainers.

ive never seen a reptillian/human shapeshifter. ive not yet been able to 'activate' my junk dna and fly through walls. i keep trying the derren brown stuff at my local shop but i still end up getting the right change back.

in short, i hardly know anything about anything. but at the same time, you have to wonder, what is it that we REALLY know..?

i mean, things which cannot be doubted.

of course, there are the tautological ones, which are a bit pointless here cos they describe the answer in the question.

even Bertrand got himself a bit carried away with his 'obstensive definition' ideas, which largely amounted to the same thing.

but unambiguous knowledge of the operations of the world/universe? we come pretty close with a few things here and there, but there will still remain areas of doubt.

these are good, as they allow us to enhance/change/adapt theories and make useful developments. and if we look at whats happened over time it looks like that 'line of best fit' pretty much works. we are all (mostly) sensible, and dont spend too much time fretting about being abducted by midgets in silver jumpers.

yet in my mind i cannot absolutely rule out the possibility of life elsewhere. and if i cannot rule this out, then i cannot rule out the possibility that it could have already got here and got jiggy with a few of our birds over time. if those birds were powerful or have powerful families, then you start to see that a bit of alien reptile rumpy with the right people could have dramatic results.

im not attempting to fortify this argument with any great deal of substance, as i havent got the time (dinners on the way - result) but just think about the possibilities. just for a second.

either you are still with me or are already foaming at the mouth with righteous rhetoric being funneled down through those shaking fingertips. whatevers cool with me, im just sat here looking forward to eating some food.

anyway, dave could be on the inside track.

or him and his mates could be mentally ill.

kind of funny which ever way you look at it.

but you see, i would rather entertain the possibility that the loons of this world are actually onto something, than sit on my fat arse sipping overpriced coffee, recycling a tin can once a month, and believing what they tell you on the news. while attempting to learn exotic recipes to impress your mates. who wear nice trousers.

ANYWAY.

its all utter rubbish. all of it. the world is knackered, and its being knackered by these cosey rich influencial d!ckheads we all either dispise or seek to emulate. you are a fool if you believe otherwise. the reptile bit at the end you can add it or not, makes no difference to the present.

I believe in the possibility of shapeshifting reptile human hybrids.

THEY LIVE.

StarSparkle

15-10-2006, 19:54

A thoughtful posting, finally!

We need a bit more open-mindedness on this Forum, so well said :thumbsup:

StarSparkle

Tony

15-10-2006, 19:58

We need a bit more open-mindedness on this Forum,

About shape shifting lizards that rule the world? :suspect:

StarSparkle

15-10-2006, 20:02

About shape shifting lizards that rule the world? :suspect:

You seem to have a great deal of difficulty keeping an open mind on this particular subject, Tony. Any reason why? :suspect: Would you like to share with the rest of us?

StarSparkle

Hecate

15-10-2006, 20:03

You seem to have a great deal of difficulty keeping an open mind on this particular subject, Tony. Any reason why? :suspect: Would you like to share with the rest of us?

StarSparkle
Because he isn't utterly barking?

Jabberwocky

15-10-2006, 20:03

Well lizards can change colour as a protective measure...Whats to say there arent reptiles that can change shape as one?

Tony

15-10-2006, 20:05

Please stick to the topic without getting personal SS. Thanks.

StarSparkle

15-10-2006, 20:09

Please stick to the topic without getting personal SS. Thanks.

And please have the good manners not to address me as SS, as I've respectfully asked a fair number of times now. Thank you.

StarSparkle

Tony

15-10-2006, 20:13

No problem. I apologise for not having read every single one of your posts StarSparkle.

StarSparkle

15-10-2006, 20:16

No problem. I apologise for not having read every single one of your posts StarSparkle.

Well, I've asked people not call me SS on quite a few occasions now. You don't normally miss many of my posts, Tony....

StarSparkle

Hecate

15-10-2006, 20:18

Well, I've asked people not call me SS on quite a few occasions now. You don't normally miss many of my posts, Tony....

StarSparkle
Perhaps you should get a sticky post about it at the top of the forum? No chance of any more transgressions then :thumbsup:

swarm

16-10-2006, 10:56

Any one out there heard or seen of the great David Icke? we went to see him in london in may and he was amazing.If you want to find out the truth about your world read his amazing books.anyone who went to his seminar who has read any of his books we would love to hear from you.Infinate love is the only truth EVERYTHING ELSE IS ILLUSION.:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

i hope you are joking. he's a nutter. isn't he the geezer who believes in lizzard people?

skoolsout

16-10-2006, 13:48

Goalkeeper are all a bit bonkers.

BasilRathbon

16-10-2006, 14:41

They probably thought Jesus was bonkers too.....

happyhippy

16-10-2006, 14:50

They probably thought Jesus was bonkers too.....

He(TM) was more convincing though, and look at the trouble that's been caused since ........

<fx: grabs coat and sprints into car with engine running and sets off at a withering pace>

purdyamos

16-10-2006, 16:36

One thing in this lizard business I'm curious about; if you break George Bush's tail off, will he grow another one? :o

TrashyBook

16-10-2006, 21:07

Talking of slightly bonkers alien/religion theories.... is anyone familar with the Aetherius Society?

They have one of their World Centres at Birdwell, just off junction 36 of the M1.

I often wondered what they were, and once read an article about them. Seems to boil down to believing that Jesus is on Venus, and that spiritual/prayer energy can be stored in batteries and sent to wherever in the world it might be needed. So they have prayer sessions for victims of natural disasters etc. When challenged (in the article), along the lines of "yes, but despite your prayers, thousands died," the stock response seemed to be, "Well, it could have been a lot worse!"

Quite entertaining in a slightly barmy sort of way!

http://www.aetherius.org/index.cfm?app=content&SectionID=40&PageID=17