The British National Party

Was in Sheffield Town Hall today looking at the nominations for the May local elections and noticed that the BNP are standing in a few seats in Sheffield. Though I am certainly not a supporter of their ideas I would defend their right to stand as candidates. I dare say the powers that be in Sheffield will be throwing their arms up in horror. They are a bona fide party and as far as I can see have every right to stand for election.

Not long ago the BNP was hauled over the coals in Sheffield for handing out literature to school children. Why is this any different to the Labour Party in my ward sticking 'Vote Labour' stickers on children as they leave school to go home. A typical case of double standards I think.

I will await the results with interest. Any comments?

Hmmmm - difficult one. I am not 100% clear on the complete policies of the BNP - but they are linked with Nazi groups I think - which makes me ill and not like them or the desire to support them either.

However - the death of a BNP candidate is a bit much when all they appeared to have done was speak about their policies. If a person of an ethnic minority were to stand giving policies on White hate then no one would batter an eyelid.

Moon Maiden

Democracy is all about having your own opinions and free speech. If this includes far right policies then fair enough. It's not right that the BNP should be banned no matter how questionable their policies are.

Anyway, if I had my way, I'd silence the Labour party, especially their smug git leader.

It comes as no surprise to me that the BNP has put forward so many candidates for the forthcoming local elections, what with the Asylum Seeker issues etc.. many people in this country have become increasingly annoyed with politically correct and left wing socialist politics which have made this country the soft touch that it is !

I hate the BNP. They will use democracy to get into power but dont respect one man one vote unless the man is white. There is already a party who will bang up asylum seekers for those who want it, the Tories. The BNP take that extra step, and regardless of whatever they say, that is what people believe they are about including anyone who votes for them.

I'm not sure which is worse - horrible Facist BNP, or the bigoted, biased end of the Labour spectrum typified by our Labour Council. Neither are likely to serve normal people well. The whole idea of a Left Right divide is just stupid - BNP, and the brand of Labour we have on our City Council - what's the difference? - their ideas come from the same source (ignore the fundamental rights of individual people, abandon all moral principles, and support your particular favourite groups). The problem is that they don't help those favoured groups either in the long run as these policies are inevitably followed by social and economic decline.

These people all clearly have a right to stand, and if we vote for them we deserve what we get. Racism has to be dealt with in an evenhanded way (as someone else said, if it comes from fanatical Islamic clerics that seems to be acceptable).

Originally posted by "ShefEducation"

 

bigoted, biased end of the Labour spectrum typified by our Labour Council. .

What have you got to back up what is in effect slander?

Originally posted by "maxt"

 

bigoted, biased end of the Labour spectrum typified by our Labour Council. .

 

What have you got to back up what is in effect slander?

A degree of common sense, it would appear. ShefEducation's description of the Sheffield Council is extreme (though not unwarranted) but his comments about the need for a more 'balanced' approach to politics are very sensible. Tackling one extreme brand of politics with another is rediculous and helps no-one.

When I was involved in student politics, I always used to have to stand up and denounce the 'no platform for fascists' policy of local and national Student's Unions.

I tried to explain to them that whilst they were the ones defining who was and who was not a fascist, they were in fact exhibiting totalitarian tendencies.

I say let the BNP stand in sheffield and people like me will go along to their hustings and make them look like the misguided bigots they are.

But they must have the opportunity to speak, otherwise they will capitalize on the 'we are an opressed political party' card, and will get much more credibility than they deserve. Also keeping them out in the open where we can see them, and not as some underground movement is important.

But if they can convince us that they are worthy of election to the council and we vote them in - well that's democracy in action.

To be fair though, they do have some good policies. Now before people slate me for saying this, here's a quote from the website:

Originally posted by "http://www.bnp.org.uk/"

 

According to Britain’s leading population experts, the native British people will be a minority in this country by about 2060, thanks to hundreds of thousands of immigrants and ‘asylum seekers’ pouring into Britain every year on ships, cars, planes and lorries. We’re already a minority in places like Leicester and inner London - the old politicians are giving our country away!

 

In many towns and cities, anti-British race attacks and race attacks are now commonplace. ‘Positive discrimination’ means that businesses are forced to employ immigrants before British workers under the guise of “quotas”, and local councils put immigrants and ‘asylum seekers’ to the front of the housing queue. The Government is going ahead with plans to build up to five million new homes on precious Green Belt land to cope with the increase in the UK’s population created mainly by immigration. British history and British culture are now censored because they might ‘offend’ the newcomers, and our children receive endless multicultural brainwashing in schools. Our people have become second class citizens at best! And all this when ethnic minorities account for ‘only’ 9% of the population! What happens as their numbers grow further?

 

Is this the future you want for your children and grand children? A future where our people are treated as second class citizens? A future where the British people will be in the minority? The British National Party says NO! The British National Party will stop all further immigration and ‘asylum seeking’, and introduce a system of voluntary resettlement whereby immigrants resident in Britain will be encouraged, but not forced, to return to their lands of native origin. The future BNP government will give those who want to go back generous resettlement grants, because we think that reducing the number of non-whites is the only way to restore peace and racial harmony. Those who want to stay are welcome to do so, provided they obey our laws and accept that Britain must stay British.

 

The British people were never given the chance to vote on whether they wanted Britain to become a ‘multicultural’ society. It was forced on us by the old political parties without any democratic vote. It’s not about being against immigrants as individuals, it’s about securing our people a homeland that we have lived in for thousands of years. A secure homeland is a basic human right, but we will lose ours if we cannot bring ourselves to say ‘no’ to immigration!

This article does make quite a lot of sense. While I'm all for people coming to live in this country to escape the horrors of their own country, I don't think it's right that the British people should be forced to forget their own heritage so as not to 'offend' immigrants. I'm all for a multicultural society, as long as anybody who comes to live in this country accepts what it is to be British, and the history that goes with it.

I think that the BNP will do well in Sheffield and to be honest I am surprised that they are only standing in 2 seats. No I would not vote for them but look at their manifesto and much of what they say makes an awful lot of sense. The traditional Labour vote in Sheffield is desperate for an alternative to vote for as they feel so let down. They won't vote Conservative and in the main view the Lib Dems as a bunch of the other party's cast offs ....... so who else is there?

Sheffield City Council has for too long thrown money at areas of so called deprivation in it's policies of positive discrimation. This has been at the expense of the rest of Sheffield which all though having pockets of wealth has lots of poor areas. This has meant a gradual decline all over the city.

The other problem in Sheffield is that Labour have had total control for so long (other than a blip in the 60's when the tories gained power and the Lib Dems more recently) that they really considered themselves invincible and thought that in the Socialist Republic the electorate couldn't possibly vote for anyone else. I think it's called taking people for granted.

It's time that this Council had a kick up the backside

Originally posted by "Mo"

 

It's time that this Council had a kick up the backside

And so say all of us. Lets hope the BNP get hammered as well.

Sick and tired of politicians (Labour, BNP etc) who seem to think that can serve their own special interest groups and stuff the rest of us. The problem with Labour is that many who think that they are Labour's special group are not at all. Not sure the Lib Dems have a coherent policy, but probably the most palatable of the bunch.