flying England flags from your car window is now accordingly to certain police officers is now a form of racism, even if England are competing for the most famous football tournament on earth, should I remove my flags from my car, or be arrested the next time they see me :help: :help:

How many of these bogus 'flag' posts do we really have to endure:rolleyes:

You can have a flag, I can have a flag, we can whistle the national anthem, we can fly the flag of St George, we can celebrate the union flag, we can wear union jack underpants all with the safety that we will not be arrested you silly person. Perhaps they want to arrest you because your as thick as a proverbial plank!

I see you have two posts...please, do not add to your total;)

Would you mind, possibly, posting some actual evidence for this assertion, browny?

Couldnt agree more Teabag!

By the way a good true reason not have the england flag on your car is because it looks crap!! :thumbsup:

Oh and you want to blame anyone for changing what flying the flag means...look to extreme Right parties!

Er, welcome to Sheffield Forum :suspect:

Are we playing shoot the newbie tonight or something?


Can we have a link to the story about these police officers please?

flying England flags from your car window is now accordingly to certain police officers is now a form of racism, even if England are competing for the most famous football tournament on earth, should I remove my flags from my car, or be arrested the next time they see me :help: :help:

Which police officers? On what charge would you be arrested? How can you believe this rubbish?

Hi Browny,

Welcome aboard - sometimes people do give new comers are rather 'warm welcome' on topics like this.

Folks - cut some slack for new posters, please?

Joe

*inspects previous post*

Ahhhh, I see the problem :thumbsup:

Calling Blades fans 'pigs' can evoke this sort of response Browny ;)

Hi Browny,

Welcome aboard - sometimes people do give new comers are rather 'warm welcome' on topics like this.

Folks - cut some slack for new posters, please?

Joe

'Welcome aboard' - you sound like Blakey from 'On The Buses'. Tell them to post something original!

I'll get you Butler........:hihi:

I'm not a racist I'd like to stress. Not at all......In fact I love watching racing in all forms when it appears on TV, horse racing, motorbike racing, grand prix racing that kinda thing so yeah I think I can safely say I'm not a racist :D

clever! :-)

maybe the police just use the flags as an indication who to pull over, potential drink drivers on match day? ;)

"flying England flags from your car window is now accordingly to certain police officers is now a form of racism, "


I have 120 feet of England flag bunting in my back garden!

Eeek!

Am I gonna get nicked?

"flying England flags from your car window is now accordingly to certain police officers is now a form of racism, "


I have 120 feet of England flag bunting in my back garden!

Eeek!

Am I gonna get nicked?
No, but the bunting might do :hihi:

Couldnt agree more Teabag!

By the way a good true reason not have the england flag on your car is because it looks crap!! :thumbsup:

Oh and you want to blame anyone for changing what flying the flag means...look to extreme Right parties!


Rooty - I could not agree more - You save and save for your lovely motor - Why then put a cr*p flag on the side? Even worse - one on each side of the car. Im a big footie fan, and really looking forward to seeing Beckham lift the cup on german soil, but just dont see these tacky trinkets have any kind of use. I notice most council vehicles in the area have them. :hihi: :hihi:

go for it let em arrest you,it will get laughed out of court and you can sue the arxe of em and prove once and for all that you are allowed to fly your countries flag

Whats all this "crap flag" lark ........its as good as any flag, they do it in other parts of the world, so why not here,,,,,,,,i like it, although, i dont fancy it on my car.

Anyone know where I can but a Polish flag for my housemate? She reckons it's not fair I have just English flags.

No polish flags......they are not in the world cup....and that might be racist

No polish flags......they are not in the world cup....and that might be racist
Yes they are.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/team/index.html

Sorry.............so thats ok then.........go get that flag....



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I was only JOKING ANYWAy.........:D

Why cut slack for the original poster? the basic premise of the post is false, you will NOT get arrested for flying the England flag (what's the offence?). You may get a ticket if you are obstructing your view by having one in your windscreen etc, but that's a different issue. The England flag is NOT illegal. Please pay no heed to the original post...it is complete rubbish.

I think I can put an end to the confusion. Everyone assumes that the police officers were from the normal police service and then they have assumed that the person with the flags was in some ethnic area and so that was the basis of the aledged racism.

What actually happened was that the offender was apprehended by the bad taste police. I understand that they pulled over the 10 year old white astra because it was flying two England flags (made in china). On searching the car they also found 3 burberry caps and large amounts of thick, 3 carot gold, jewelry. The offenders complained that this was a racist arrest since they had only been arrested because they belonged to the Chav ethnic group.

Glad I could clear that up.

Bad taste police............god i hate those guys.........they pull me every day. lord help us the day furry dice go out of fashion.

How many of these bogus 'flag' posts do we really have to endure:rolleyes:

You can have a flag, I can have a flag, we can whistle the national anthem, we can fly the flag of St George, we can celebrate the union flag, we can wear union jack underpants all with the safety that we will not be arrested you silly person. Perhaps they want to arrest you because your as thick as a proverbial plank!

I see you have two posts...please, do not add to your total;)

Does this mean that you are not adding Browny to your Buddy List?:confused:

two England flags (made in china).

Had me in stitches...:hihi:

Whats all this "crap flag" lark ........its as good as any flag, they do it in other parts of the world, so why not here,,,,,,,,i like it, although, i dont fancy it on my car.

It is not the cross of St George that I alluded to, this is a source of pride, but the tacky car flag culture that besets all tournaments. :loopy:

Do forummers suffer from sort of collective amnesia? How many times have we done this one before? I think TwoFour hit the nail on the head with this post in a previous thread

Here's the rule

england flag before tournament = tacky and probably racist
england flag during tournament = football fan
england flag more than a week after tournament = idle or possibly racist

there you go.

Car flag wannabes? They are knocking them out at 50p a piece in town pound shops on a buy one get one free basis. They'll be worse than the 'greenfly' which seem to have gone today :)

There could conceivably be a Construction & Use offence if the mounting or construction of the flag was dangerous, obstructed the drivers vision, or was liable to detach at speed to the risk of other road users.

The act of displaying a national flag is not an offence - else the cars with Jamaican flag stickers or niumber plates would no doubt have experienced difficulties...

The act of displaying a national flag is not an offence - else the cars with Jamaican flag stickers or niumber plates would no doubt have experienced difficulties...


Timo told me he once got pulled over for having four EU flags flying on his car, one from each window of his Camron inspired Prius.

Apparently the police told him it's only national flags which can be displayed without planning permission. He was so fuming it ruined drinking the bottle of Chteau Mouton Rothschild Pauillac 1986 he'd just invested in.

I can imagine that a few people on here are going to get ****** off when they find out that the fire service are asking pubs to only put up fire retardent flags.

Ive noticed tonight on my way home that every car Ive been behind that had a flag flying from the windows was driven by a crap driver. Coincidence?

flying England flags from your car window is now accordingly to certain police officers is now a form of racism, even if England are competing for the most famous football tournament on earth, should I remove my flags from my car, or be arrested the next time they see me :help: :help:
Who did u hear this from ? Of course you shouldn't remove your flags.

If you're unsure. There's only one way to find out. You can put up the flags, and then on a match day, go near Bramall Lane, and see if the police mind. Then go on another day, and do the same again, but remember to poke your head out and shout things like "blah blah blah, go back home". Remember to whoop a little bit as well. With some honking, it'll be more effective. Then see the difference. ;)

Ive noticed tonight on my way home that every car Ive been behind that had a flag flying from the windows was driven by a crap driver. Coincidence?
No coincidence I have found the same here in the Rotherham area I seem to recall the authorities were not keen on these er football 'fans' flying about (excuse the pun) showing these flags on their cars.

flying England flags from your car window is now accordingly to certain police officers is now a form of racism, even if England are competing for the most famous football tournament on earth, should I remove my flags from my car, or be arrested the next time they see me :help: :help:

short answer NO and if any copper nicks you for flying them you can sue them for wrongful arrest

Why shouldnt people be allowed to show there support to their own country

It isn't showing support for a country. It is showing support for a football team. That team then represents one part of out country.

how can flying an england flag in england upset anyone

I can't see how anyone could come to the conclusion that a flag is racist. Last world cup there were hundreds of flags on cars and all ethnic diversities flying them. It was a great thing to see and the way the flag should be used. I think they would have difficulty prosecuting anyone for having a flag unless they hit said officers with it.

This is such a nothing thread.

browny posts a tiny shred of hearsay, and all the right-wing paranoiacs line up to vent their outrage.

Isn't it obvious, if you think about it for even half a second, that you would only get pulled over if the cops thought your flag was presenting a danger to other road users?

Sheesh.

[mbatey]

how can flying an england flag in england upset anyone
It doesn't upset me - look at my avatar. :)

Feel free to copy it for your own if you like. I find it much more pleasing than yours which shows a photo of somebody being strangled. Quite upsetting! :?

It isn't showing support for a country. It is showing support for a football team. That team then represents one part of out country.
On the first point it's possibly both.
England is a country, not part of one (albeit that it is, for the time being at least, part of a larger artificial political union called the United Kingdom).

No wonder Sheffield gets results like this (http://www.google.com/trends?q=CONFUSED&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all)

This flag things getting on everyone's nerves. Everyone knows these things go up every time England qualify for a major footie tournament, and if I remember rightly there were quite a few tricolors getting draped from houses in 1994 when England didnt qualify. No-one, bar probably ian Paisley and a few Billyboy types seemed to mind. Thats all it is, people getting behind their team. Theres a Trinidad flag going up near me, and bearing in mind they're actually gonna be playing England, no-ones said much about that save for a bit of footie banter. The acid test of course, will come when a few German, Argentine, French ex-pats start waving their flags about, and how the more brain-dead, racist or lagered-up of us will react. Will they let them fly their flag as a god-given right? Remains to be seen, really.

To be honest, I'm quite pleased to see these flags going up. I know its simply about following a footie team and nothing more sinister. Anyone with a few brain cells knows that. Seeing as that flag been manipulated by fascist groups for as long as I care to remember its good to see it being reclaimed from them.

Must admit, they do look **** on top of a Vauxhall Nova don't they!

It isn't showing support for a country. It is showing support for a football team. That team then represents one part of out country.

Where can we get Out country flags from?

PS Iv'e thought often thought of getting out of the country.

May be all these mizogs who won't fly the flag, and don,t want to watch footie on telly could get out for a couple of weeks ..say in June; Germany is quite nice.

This bobbins happens every time there is a major footie tournie or something of it's ilk.

It's just not bleedin' true. It's not political correctness gone mad. It's idiots who hear this kind of rumour down the pub and think it's true. Just because Fat Dave, with his three lions tattoo (although he's never even been to an England match, unless you count watching Sky in the local pub),and his mates, who don't like "packies" much because they "steal our jobs" and "take our houses", said so.

So of course, it must be true.

People who believe this tosh are pathetic. If they stopped and thought for one second they would see how ridiculous it is. Or maybe they wouldn’t, cos Fat Racist Dave down the pubs says it's true...so it must be, he's a "top lad".

And mainly, because they want to believe it.

Ive noticed tonight on my way home that every car Ive been behind that had a flag flying from the windows was driven by a crap driver. Coincidence?

Well as soon as the world cup starts We will have a flag on our car.

Will our insurance company hike up the premiums then?

If youre daft enough to insure a 50p flag I guess they'' consider you gullible enough to pay any premium they fancy putting on yer tab.

Where can we get Our country flags from?



All the supermarkets I've been in over the last month, WH Smiths.............:thumbsup:

Where can we get Our country flags from?



All the supermarkets I've been in over the last month, WH Smiths etc etc etc etc etc...:thumbsup:

If youre daft enough to insure a 50p flag I guess they'' consider you gullible enough to pay any premium they fancy putting on yer tab.


The comment on hiking up the insurance was because of this post--

Ive noticed tonight on my way home that every car Ive been behind that had a flag flying from the windows was driven by a crap driver. Coincidence?
The assertion being if we fly a flag ....we automatically become crap drivers ... if driving ability decreases; premiums usually increase . It was just a daft throw away comment, sorry I bothered now.

All the supermarkets I've been in over the last month, WH Smiths.............:thumbsup:

All the supermarkets I've been in over the last month, WH Smiths.............:thumbsup:

So good he posted twice.

No matter here is the actual quote...
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenH
It isn't showing support for a country. It is showing support for a football team. That team then represents one part of out country.


Where can we get Out country flags from?

PS Iv'e thought often thought of getting out of the country.

May be all these mizogs who won't fly the flag, and don,t want to watch footie on telly could get out for a couple of weeks ..say in June; Germany is quite nice.

:thumbsup: do see the comment from KenH was "out country" not our country.

boyface has more or less summed up the futility of this thread. I suppose that if a car flying the flags had four brain dead "England supporters" on board giving the rods to passing ethic folk then the police might have something to say. One would trust that the same would apply if the boot was on the other foot!!

Well I'm gonna get a flag, only I'm waiting til the World Cup actually starts. And I'm not as crap a driver as I used to be.

Well I'm gonna get a flag, only I'm waiting til the World Cup actually starts. And I'm not as crap a driver as I used to be.

You little devil you.

Apparently the police told him it's only national flags which can be displayed without planning permission.

How bizarre - I had no idea you needed planning permission for a car, or part thereof...

:loopy:

Ive recently set up a market stall selling World Cup Merchandise & can supply England flags/car flags, caps, t-shirts, air fresherners, footballs all at dirt cheap pricers. Any1 whos interested pm me!!

Can deliver 2 your door 2

Cheers

Rob

The acid test of course, will come when a few German, Argentine, French ex-pats start waving their flags about, and how the more brain-dead, racist or lagered-up of us will react. Will they let them fly their flag as a god-given right? Remains to be seen, really.

Je dois acheter un petit drapeau francais... :suspect:

how can flying an england flag in england upset anyone

It doesn't .... it's a story resurrected every few years by right wing groups to get everyone angry at the political correctness of society, possibly gaining them votes ....

I have a St Georges Cross over my Parcel Shelf all year round and I've never been pulled over for it, reason for doing it is because i;m english so why not..and i dont like the car flags ppl atach to their windows.

Oh and my furry dice are st georges cross furry dice, but there only in the car because they were a birthday present, i dont really like furry dice


And for the record I'm not recist and have never been accused by anyone of being racist

Je dois acheter un petit drapeau francais... :suspect:

Yo tambien.

I have a St Georges Cross over my Parcel Shelf all year round and I've never been pulled over for it, reason for doing it is because i;m english so why not..and i dont like the car flags ppl atach to their windows.

Oh and my furry dice are st georges cross furry dice, but there only in the car because they were a birthday present, i dont really like furry dice


And for the record I'm not recist and have never been accused by anyone of being racist

But the furry dice in the windscreen ARE illegal, something to do with restricting the drivers vision I beleive.

Right!
Lets get this straight once and for all.

The government,last year funded a study into road safety and reduction of deaths on our roads. The main finding of this forty million pound report was that the biggest problem is that most drivers can't spot a dangerous or bad driver coming towards them.

Therefore they have come up with a "Flag" system for other drivers to determin the driving ability and also the IQ of on-coming traffic.

They decieded that one flag would be used to indicate a driver of below average IQ and a possible bad risk.

Two flags is to be reserved for drivers who shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel and these drivers should be avoided at all costs.

So remeber if you see a car with two flags on it...mount the pavement and get out of its way quickly as the moron driving is a brainless baffoon.

ttfn

Right!
Lets get this straight once and for all.

The government,last year funded a study into road safety and reduction of deaths on our roads. The main finding of this forty million pound report was that the biggest problem is that most drivers can't spot a dangerous or bad driver coming towards them.

Therefore they have come up with a "Flag" system for other drivers to determin the driving ability and also the IQ of on-coming traffic.

They decieded that one flag would be used to indicate a driver of below average IQ and a possible bad risk.

Two flags is to be reserved for drivers who shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel and these drivers should be avoided at all costs.

So remeber if you see a car with two flags on it...mount the pavement and get out of its way quickly as the moron driving is a brainless baffoon.

ttfn

I gather that this new system replaces the old system, whereby the driver would wear a trilby and drive a volvo to signify that he passed the test in 1934 when you just had to drive between two bricks to get a licence.

this is just stupid, first we cant sing ba ba black sheep, then no kissing in plays, england flags? mental. yet somehow afgan (sorry if spelt wrong) can hijak planes and get a home in britain with more benifits then us! this has to stop and we must make a stand.

this is just stupid, first we cant sing ba ba black sheep, then no kissing in plays, england flags? mental. yet somehow afgan (sorry if spelt wrong) can hijak planes and get a home in britain with more benifits then us! this has to stop and we must make a stand.

You're talking unmitigated nonsense. All of the above are completely legal with the exception of hijacking.

You're talking unmitigated nonsense. All of the above are completely legal with the exception of hijacking.


you got there before me halibut! :)

this is just stupid, first we cant sing ba ba black sheep,.

As has no doubt been pointed out many times before, this, like all the other stories, is just an urban myth to give folk justification for their prejudices.

^^ jake...is that you? errmmm...nah, sorry thought you were someone else :)

this is just stupid, first we cant sing ba ba black sheep, then no kissing in plays, england flags? mental. yet somehow afgan (sorry if spelt wrong) can hijak planes and get a home in britain with more benifits then us! this has to stop and we must make a stand.

Yes, please do make a stand...in the corner, facing the wall. Thankyou :)

I'm gobsmacked how many ppl fall for the PC brigade stopping flags, Black Sheep and Black boards etc. It's all created down the pub and in the local tabloids.

Yes there are PC brigades out there but the above are simply :loopy:

DfT Information Release
Monday, 22 May 2006


Due to declining driving standards in England, the Department for Transport has devised a new scheme in order to identify poor drivers and give good drivers the opportunity to recognise them whilst driving. For this reason as from the middle of May 2006 those drivers who are found to be driving badly which includes...

· Hogging the middle lane of motorways
· Hogging the outside lane of motorways
· Overtaking in dangerous places
· Hovering within one inch of the car in front
· Stopping sharply
· Speeding in residential areas
· Pulling out without indication
· Performing U turns inappropriately in busy high streets
· Taking up more than one lane in multi lane roads
· Not indicating

...will be required to display a flag, white with a red cross, signifying their inability to drive properly. These flags must be clipped to a door of the car and be visible to all other drivers and pedestrians.

Those drivers who have shown particularly poor driving skills will be required to display a flag on each side of the car to indicate their greater lack of skill and general lower intelligence mindset compared to the general public. A flag hanging outside a house will indicate that a whole family suffers from this unfortunate condition.

Please pass this on to as many other motorists as you can so that drivers and pedestrians will be aware of the meaning of these flags.

Does this help? :D

I love this new Road Safety scheme - if you're a crap driver, you have to fly a white flag with a red cross on it on your car... if you're REALLY rubbish, you have to fly TWO white flags with red crosses.....

:-)

I've seen a 4x4 car with 4 flags on the windows, anybody beat that ?

"Flying flags at an angle - rather than upright - is currently outlawed
Outdated laws banning the flying of national flags are to be scrapped."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5211952.stm

Oh no! Where are the PC brigade scare stories going ot come from now??????

Timo told me he once got pulled over for having four EU flags flying on his car, one from each window of his Camron inspired Prius.

Apparently the police told him it's only national flags which can be displayed without planning permission. He was so fuming it ruined drinking the bottle of Chteau Mouton Rothschild Pauillac 1986 he'd just invested in.

Actually, you cheeky [but immensely likeable] pussycat, the flags were of St. George as well you know it, and the boot of the motor was loaded with a selection of 1969 Burgundies from Avery [ Nuits St-Georges Les Roncieres, Chambolle Musigny], a single Jaboulet's 1967 Chateauneuf Les Cedres from Loeb and a spectacularly rare bottle of 1976 declasse Burgundy, a Cuvee Suzanne Le Goux. Tell me, do you still invest in Hirondelle? Or is it Blue Nun these days, old fruit?

"Flying flags at an angle - rather than upright - is currently outlawed Outdated laws banning the flying of national flags are to be scrapped."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5211952.stm

Oh no! Where are the PC brigade scare stories going ot come from now??????
Is it some kind of Common Law from Ye Olde Yesteryears or something like that ? It said it's unlawful to fly at an angle, and not in an upright position...

i have just been informed that the term brain storming is deemed inappropriate and is to be replaced by thought showering.Who on gods great earth could be offended by this term.:loopy:

dont they have anything better to do than think of stupid things?

Unbelievable.

It'll reach a point where no one will have any idea what anyone is talking about simply to not affend.

Political corectness gone mad indeed.

Here we go again.

So could you supply us a source for this madness?

i have just been informed that the term brain storming is deemed inappropriate and is to be replaced by thought showering.Who on gods great earth could be offended by this term.:loopy:

Who has informed you of this? Could it be that they are pulling your leg?

i have just been informed that the term brain storming is deemed inappropriate and is to be replaced by thought showering.Who on gods great earth could be offended by this term.:loopy:
I believe that a 'brain storm' is an epileptic seizure (or something to do with that), so maybe epileptics would consider it to be insensitive to use this phrase in a light-hearted, metaphorical way?

I heard a programme on Radio 4 about a year ago where a disabled woman was complaining about Monty Python's Ministry of Silly Walks. Apparently they have no idea of the hurt that it caused to disabled people who walk in a particular way.

The story that an organization has banned the word 'brainstorm', in favor of 'thought shower', due to its connection with epilepsy, appears regularly in British newspapers. Invariably, it is given as an example of 'political correctness gone mad'. One example can be found in the Observer, 26 June 2005 regarding the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Investment in Belfast. Another example is the Telegraph, 26 April 2003 regarding trainee teachers.

A survey in 2005 by the UK charity National Society for Epilepsy found that 93 per cent of people with the condition do not find the word brainstorm offensive.

Another UK epilepsy charity, Epilepsy Action, discussed this in their Epilepsy Facts, Figures and Terminology web page. An informal survey by Epilepsy Action in their journal Epilepsy Today (Issue 73, October 2005) confirmed the NSE findings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstorming

i have just been informed that the term brain storming is deemed inappropriate and is to be replaced by thought showering.Who on gods great earth could be offended by this term.:loopy:

told by whom and acting in what capacity?

As this thread was started by 'princealbert', I wonder if the original Prince Albert would (were he alive) find the use to which his name is often put objectionable?

I'm sure a good few years ago when people were said to have a 'brainstorm', it meant they had gone a bit crazy. Then, via America, the words came to mean something like the 'exchange of ideas' or ' stimulating each other mentally'.I suppose it was too mentally demanding for people to say,

" Let's go and discuss these problems ", and much easier to say, " Let's go brainstorm, man."

A word that seems connected to all this is 'brainwave' which meant a good idea but I haven't seen that used much lately.It's possible the Americans mixed up 'brainwave' and 'brainstorm'? Maybe Dorothy Wordsworth in the 'Spectator' would help us!

A lot of so-called 'brainstorming' sessions I've had to attend have been more like 'braindeadening', actually, and a couple of 'phone calls would have been quicker and cheaper all round.

I heard about this in 2001 when I was working in Westminster....still to be adopted though.

I was thinking in the shower this morning and I'm offended that people may think I was brain storming.

I believe that a 'brain storm' is an epileptic seizure (or something to do with that), so maybe epileptics would consider it to be insensitive to use this phrase in a light-hearted, metaphorical way?

that is true, however the epiletic society have sinse been intouch with education departments to say that they are not offended by the terminology

Ugh, why?! Just, why?! :rant:

Ruddy PC Barmy army! For god sake why must they ruin everything?! :rant:

I was on a Prince's Trust coures a few years ago and we could'nt use the term "Brain-storming" instead we had to use "Mind-mapping". Cant say it bothered me though. There are lots of words we don't use anymore because they may cause offence. Does it really bother you that much?


Rich Ugh, why?! Just, why?!

Ruddy PC Barmy army! For god sake why must they ruin everything?!

Surely they dont ruin everything.

I was on a Prince's Trust coures a few years ago and we could'nt use the term "Brain-storming" instead we had to use "Mind-mapping". Cant say it bothered me though. There are lots of words we don't use anymore because they may cause offence. Does it really bother you that much?




Surely they dont ruin everything.

They do though, you can't sing Baa Baa Black Sheep because it's racist?! I'm sorry but eh?! Since when is singing about black sheep racist? Unless it's coloured Welsh people?! :loopy:

So for the people that are outraged, when (apart from this post) was the last time you used the Word brainstorming and were told you could not use it?

Unless it's coloured Welsh people?! :loopy:

I think Black people tend to dislike being called Coloured more than anything else. Do you live in 70's world?

I have just noticed that PrinceAlbert is a mental health nurse. Eh? Brainstorming is a term associated with schizophrenia. " And you dont know this?" No wonder the mental health service is in turmoil if this is the caliber of the nurses.

Im not for politically correct madness but i am for being aware of how your actions or words will affect others.

I have just noticed that PrinceAlbert is a mental health nurse. Eh? Brainstorming is a term associated with schizophrenia. " And you dont know this?" No wonder the mental health service is in turmoil if this is the caliber of the nurses.

Im not for politically correct madness but i am for being aware of how your actions or words will affect others.Why would a person suffering this condition be offended though, the term isn't used in an offensive manner it's just a description of a type of training which has nothing to do with schizophrenia. No one is likely to mix them up. It's not like using a word such as spastic as a derogatory term which obviously is insulting.

When I was at college over a year ago my teacher told me that he was given a list by the head with a list of words they arent allowed to use anymore inc (Brain storming, man hole, black board, white bored................)

They do though, you can't sing Baa Baa Black Sheep because it's racist?! I'm sorry but eh?! Since when is singing about black sheep racist? Unless it's coloured Welsh people?! :loopy:

Baa Baa Black Sheep is not considered racist... the term 'coloured' when talking about black people, IS considered racist, however. :rolleyes:

You obviously know nothing on the subject, maybe save your blushes and stay out of it.

People always refer to things like brain storm, person hole cover etc... the thing is, most of these things are made up as jokes, and people who are not quite clever enough to see this get offended and on their high horse!

I was on a Prince's Trust coures a few years ago and we could'nt use the term "Brain-storming" instead we had to use "Mind-mapping". Cant say it bothered me though. There are lots of words we don't use anymore because they may cause offence. Does it really bother you that much?
.

Mind Mapping is a specific technique, rather than an alternative phrase for Brianstorming.

Why would a person suffering this condition be offended though, the term isn't used in an offensive manner it's just a description of a type of training which has nothing to do with schizophrenia. No one is likely to mix them up. It's not like using a word such as spastic as a derogatory term which obviously is insulting.


I'm personally not sure why a certain word would offend a certain person. Clearly though words do offend people. What offends me more is when people scream "it's political correctness gone mad". How would we like it if we were called Scottish or when Americans automatically think every Brit is from London? For me it's sometimes the ignorance that annoys. Like coloureds for instance. When was the last time you saw a purple or green person? Blacks are black, whites are white. Some of us are brown but none of us are coloured.

I'm personally not sure why a certain word would offend a certain person. Clearly though words do offend people. What offends me more is when people scream "it's political correctness gone mad". How would we like it if we were called Scottish or when Americans automatically think every Brit is from London? For me it's sometimes the ignorance that annoys.Ignorance but not offensive. What's a Brit by the way?

Ignorance but not offensive. What's a Brit by the way?

Do you just like asking silly questions? British citizen or crap music award.

Do you just like asking silly questions? British citizen or crap music award.It wasn't a silly question I just thought it amusing the way you threw it into your post. I dislike the word as a description of nationality because it isn't one although I wouldn't go so far as saying I was offended.

Can you imagine how galling it must have been for Scots or Welsh people during the 2nd World War when 'Britain' was constantly referred to as 'England'? Enough to damage morale, I'd have thought.

Even up until the mid-70s or so, it seemed to be impossible for most English people to differentiate beween Britain and England. The insensitivity of it caused a lot of Scots to feel very anti-English.

StarSparkle

The whole phrase 'brainstorming' has been revoked as incorrect and is now passable. I'm led to understand that it was because of people with epilepsy who might be offended.
All stupid IMO but there you go, I never stopped using it in the first place but feel free to continue using it because it IS pc again!

They do though, you can't sing Baa Baa Black Sheep because it's racist?! I'm sorry but eh?! Since when is singing about black sheep racist? Unless it's coloured Welsh people?! :loopy:

You're either trolling, or you have a memory like a goldfish. This myth has been debunked too many times to count.

I notice that the OP hasn't been back since the original post. Trolling perhaps.

I'm still trying to work out why blackboards are bad but whiteboards are OK.:confused:

You're either trolling, or you have a memory like a goldfish. This myth has been debunked too many times to count.
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No man it was in the daily mail. :D

I'm still trying to work out why blackboards are bad but whiteboards are OK.:confused:

Because the boards are now white instead of black :loopy: Infact they generally called interactive whiteboards.

No man it was in the daily mail. :D

Um, I don't read the Daily Mail, I'm from S6, not S11.

Because the boards are now white instead of black :loopy: Infact they generally called interactive whiteboards.

I am aware of white boards for use with marker pens and interactive boards that are white - I've installed a few.
So why does that explain the ones that are still black and why we can't call them blackboards ?

I am aware of white boards for use with marker pens interactive boards that are white - I've installed a few.
So why does that explain the ones that are still black and why we can't call them blackboards ?

Cos it upsets teh PC Brigade you see... Just like the whole thing with Baa Baa Black Sheep, you can't say black cos it's not PC... :rant:

I am aware of white boards for use with marker pens and interactive boards that are white - I've installed a few.
So why does that explain the ones that are still black and why we can't call them blackboards ?

Who says that you can't blackboards blackboards. I've managed to and I have not been arrested yet.

Originally Posted by Daley
The "PC brigade" (I call it the press-created brigade) has to be built up as a sinister establishment organisation because otherwise it's not a good scare story for tabloids. The vast majority of "political correctness gone mad" stories are exaggerated or outright lies, but the few that are genuine arise from idiotic ideas and incompetence. It's a few jobsworths that make bizarre suggestions best ignored.

This, however, doesn't fit into the tabloid agenda of "there's this large number of people out there who are all out to get you". Political correctness therefore has to be built up into a nationwide movement intent on oppressing helpless Daily Mail readers. This is done by claiming that the "PC brigade" is actually the entire public sector, as hundreds of thousands of employees = great tabloid bogeyman. It's the same as people like Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho claiming there's a media vendetta against them, despite them both managing huge clubs with millions of fans nationwide.

These rantings lead to a siege mentality, where supporters of the ranter believe they're holed up against an adversary far greater in number/more powerful than they are, when it's usually the reverse that's true. In the football example, you can speak to the fans of any major club and they'll tell you the media is specifically against them. In the case of political correctness, right-wing tabloid readers are convinced that a liberal elite runs the country. This is in stark contrast to the huge circulations that the S*n and Daily Mail have compared to the Guardian and Independent, that Rupert Murdoch has had Blair's ear right from the start, and that this government has constantly legislated and spun to garner tabloid headlines.

An excellent post from Daley taken from a previous thread about political correctness, I think this sums up my feelings as well. I hope that Daley doesn't mind me using this.

Who says that you can't call blackboards, blackboards? I've managed to and I have not been arrested yet.

There's still time ....:hihi: Watch out ....

I'm hiding behind the sofa now, you don't think that they are on the way?

Originally Posted by Daley
The "PC brigade" (I call it the press-created brigade) has to be built up as a sinister establishment organisation because otherwise it's not a good scare story for tabloids.

No man it happens.
I was told it was racist to ask a woman with asian looks if she spoke urdu as I needed to check a translation.
She was an council employee in the department I was doing the work for.
I asked her very politely if she spoke urdu and told her why. She was not offended in the slightest and was most helpful but the idiot (white guy) I was doing it for gave me a bollocking about it.

Who the hell was I supposed to ask ?

True the tabloids hype it but it's out there and it's racist/homophobic/whatever to say it. Why can't we just get on with being nice to each other and just tell the truth.

I once gave a guy a kick for touching me up and was told it's homophobic. Rubbish - I cracked a sex attacker in the same way I would love to see a woman smack the cr ap out of a man who attacked her.

So someone is black, white, yellow or whatever. I don't care and I just can't see what it matters if we call things black. It's not an insult to anyone unless you make it so.

Stuff PC - It is the cause of more problems than it will ever solve.

told by whom and acting in what capacity?
By Sheffield University.I find the whole political correctness pathetic.:rant:

The university can talk?
Who was it, and what official position do they have.

Cos it upsets teh PC Brigade you see... Just like the whole thing with Baa Baa Black Sheep, you can't say black cos it's not PC... :rant:

where are they rich, are they hiding under your bed with the bogey man?

My neice (3 years old) was happily singing baa baa black sheep last weekend, taught to her at nursery.

I think Black people tend to dislike being called Coloured more than anything else. Do you live in 70's world?

I have just noticed that PrinceAlbert is a mental health nurse. Eh? Brainstorming is a term associated with schizophrenia. " And you dont know this?" No wonder the mental health service is in turmoil if this is the caliber of the nurses.

Im not for politically correct madness but i am for being aware of how your actions or words will affect others.
It has nothing to do with schizophrenia,it is connected to epilepsy.

By Sheffield University.I find the whole political correctness pathetic.:rant:

That's strange. I work at the university and I've never been told that I can't use "brain-storming". Are the "PC brigade" still working their way through all the staff and they've yet to reach me? Should I hide? Better still, should I practice my Richard Littlejohn impression in order to ingratiate myself with them?

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Just read in paper this morning that some journalist suggested to George Osbourne who is apparently a politician that he may be autistic because he knew so many facts, Osbourne replied "we are not getting on to Gordon Brown yet". The National Autistic Society is up in arms about it. I don't see why that is offensive, maybe they are autistic.

Perhaps it's due to it being a bit of a generalisation that someone knowing lots of facts = Autism. Autism isn't just knowing lots of facts and a statement like that is hugely patronising.

the random thread merge strikes again.

Perhaps it's due to it being a bit of a generalisation that someone knowing lots of facts = Autism. Autism isn't just knowing lots of facts and a statement like that is hugely patronising.Not really, it's just a throwaway remark in that instance.

Not really, it's just a throwaway remark in that instance.

Yes, If you have no connection with Autism.

Even with a connection a person would surely know it's just a stupid comment and it was the journalist who said it first not Osbourne. I think people are just trawling their every word to find a way of being offended.

Of course but someone in a position to preach to the masses (media) shouldn't be giving out the wrong message. Everyone who then "knows lots of facts" will be trying to get DDA for being Autistic, then you'll have the tax payers whinging...blah...blah......the list goes on. It doesn't really matter who said it, it's wrong.

Just read in paper this morning that some journalist suggested to George Osbourne who is apparently a politician that he may be autistic because he knew so many facts, Osbourne replied "we are not getting on to Gordon Brown yet". The National Autistic Society is up in arms about it. I don't see why that is offensive, maybe they are autistic.

Just because someone is unusually clever and knows lots of facts doesn't automatically mean they have Autism or Asperger's syndrome...

IMO the NAS are in their right to throw a hissy fit about this.

As many of you know, I myself suffer from Asperger's, which there is a myriad of information about on Google if you don't know what it is, and without wishing to be overly modest I do know a lot of stuff that for want of a better word, normal people might not.

Just because someone is unusually clever and knows lots of facts doesn't automatically mean they have Autism or Asperger's syndrome...

IMO the NAS are in their right to throw a hissy fit about this.

As many of you know, I myself suffer from Asperger's, which there is a myriad of information about on Google if you don't know what it is, and without wishing to be overly modest I do know a lot of stuff that for want of a better word, normal people might not.I know what it all is, I was remarking on this newspaper item. Does the newspaper comment offend you?

"The row came after a fringe event at the Tory conference in Bournemouth on Sunday at which Mr Osborne spoke about his childhood and recalled how his brothers used to call him “Knowledge” because of his memory. When Mary Ann Sieghart, The Times columnist who was interviewing him at the event, suggested to him that he might have been faintly autistic, Mr Osborne replied: “We’re not getting into Gordon Brown yet.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2385597,00.html

I find it offensive. It's using a serious disorder as an insult. It's in the realms of using ethnicity as an insult.

"The row came after a fringe event at the Tory conference in Bournemouth on Sunday at which Mr Osborne spoke about his childhood and recalled how his brothers used to call him “Knowledge” because of his memory. When Mary Ann Sieghart, The Times columnist who was interviewing him at the event, suggested to him that he might have been faintly autistic, Mr Osborne replied: “We’re not getting into Gordon Brown yet.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2385597,00.html

I find it offensive. It's using a serious disorder as an insult. It's in the realms of using ethnicity as an insult.Are you autistic or are you offended on behalf of a specific person who is?

"The row came after a fringe event at the Tory conference in Bournemouth on Sunday at which Mr Osborne spoke about his childhood and recalled how his brothers used to call him “Knowledge” because of his memory. When Mary Ann Sieghart, The Times columnist who was interviewing him at the event, suggested to him that he might have been faintly autistic, Mr Osborne replied: “We’re not getting into Gordon Brown yet.”


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2385597,00.html

I find it offensive. It's using a serious disorder as an insult. It's in the realms of using ethnicity as an insult.

100% agreed... Ugh, people who use someone's disability, whether it's true that they have it or not, as an insult, want shooting IMO :rant:

Are you autistic or are you offended on behalf of a specific person who is?

What does it matter? That shouldn't colour your judgement.

What does it matter? That shouldn't colour your judgement.Just wondered, I didn't make the comments I just asked a few questions. Although I don't make such remarks personally I do think people are over sensitive.

In yesterdays paper it stated that the police are no longer allowed to call people acting in an anti social manner yobs because it might offend them.

I'm sure the lads and lasses will have a whole arsenal of other suitable terms they could use. Ranging from 'arsehole' to 'zit infested scumbag'. By the time the Politically Correctness prats have covered the lot, they'll have given up....or there'll be a spray on the market called 'Cillit Innit' that acts as a 'chavicide.

There must be a government committee set up to list and ban all the terms that might potentially upset oversensitive people. The trouble is the terms used to replace them inevitably become taboo themselves. Where will it all end.

There must be a government committee set up to list and ban all the terms that might potentially upset oversensitive people. The trouble is the terms used to replace them inevitably become taboo themselves. Where will it all end.
To true mate,its a disgrace.:loopy:

PC However does keep a lot of people in jobs

'Welcome aboard' - you sound like Blakey from 'On The Buses'. Tell them to post something original!

I'll get you Butler........:hihi:
That's classic,nice one,pmsl

I've heard the latest thing the pc brigade are trying to put a stop to is the continual posting on internet forums of the same half dozen stories, such as the one that baa baa black sheep has been banned.

The do-gooders say that those who post these stories always seem to think they're the first to have done so, before somone else invariably chimes in about how annoyed they are that you can't say golliwog anymore, somebody else then asks them for the source of their story, which turns out to be an article in the Sun, which rants on for a few paragraphs, before dropping it in that the person trying to ban thge nursery rhyme, or whatever, is a man in a psychiatric ward who worked for Birmingham City Council in the 1950s or some such thing.

This is very cunning, as a lot of readers either don't have the attention span to get that far, or are so infuriated that they have involuntarily ripped the paper to shreds by the end of the first paragraph.

And the pc brigade now want to ban this!
Is there no area of our lives where these do-gooders will not stick their noses?

My god Donkey!

It's political correctness gone mad. Mad I say, just completely bonkers. The end of the world is nigh. We're all doomed!

It all started when Mavis, a shoe shop assistant in the Outer Hebrides announced that black sheep shall never be mentioned in a nursery rhyme ever again (in her head). From that moment, we've been on the slippery slope to hell. God help us!

:hihi:

My god Donkey!

It's political correctness gone mad. Mad I say, just completely bonkers. The end of the world is nigh. We're all doomed!

It all started when Mavis, a shoe shop assistant in the Outer Hebrides announced that black sheep shall never be mentioned in a nursery rhyme ever again (in her head). From that moment, we've been on the slippery slope to hell. God help us!

:hihi:


Your absolutely right. We should man the barricades imediately.

ROFPMSL! :lol:

Your absolutely right. We should man the barricades imediately.


Oh no, I should have said person the barricades. My arrest is now imminent.
Goodbye my friends. Never give up the struggle against this tyranny

Its no laughing matter,you cant say a word without someone been offened.

I have just looked at the calendar and notice that Christmas is fast approaching. Isn't it about time that some of the national newspapers started to produce entirely ficticious stories about how Christmas is banned in all government offices or how Father Christmas will be given an ASBO if he appears in an Asian area? Come on Daily Mail do your stuff, then we can talk about it until next July! Happy non-religious festive time of year to you all.

Its no laughing matter,you cant say a word without someone been offened.

I know, I just called my mum Dave and she slapped me. I wonder what Dave will do if I call him mum?

Donkey, I would write to you in prison, but the post man will obviously get offended by the envelope. I'm sorry, I fear I must go into hiding before offending anyone else. :(

I would write to you in prison, :(

There is no need to call it that! I find the word "prison" to be offensive and would prefer "post-judgement compulsory residential course facilities".

There is no need to call it that! I find the word "prison" to be offensive and would prefer "post-judgement compulsory residential course facilities".

There, I've done it again! :help:

I have just looked at the calendar and notice that Christmas is fast approaching. Isn't it about time that some of the national newspapers started to produce entirely ficticious stories about how Christmas is banned in all government offices or how Father Christmas will be given an ASBO if he appears in an Asian area? Come on Daily Mail do your stuff, then we can talk about it until next July! Happy non-religious festive time of year to you all.

There was a corker last year from Sky News. A poll they'd taken showed that a significant proportion of offices (I think it was around 40%) weren't having christmas parties "because they feared it may offend minorities". It turned out that although the statistic was true, the spin they'd placed on it wasn't. The real reason these offices weren't having christmas parties was because they didn't want the cost or to have their employees either miss the following day at work drunk or turn up with gigantic hangovers.

Two london tube workers were accused of racially harassing a colleague with JELLY BABIES. all they did was bite the heads of the black one's
full story here
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006510136,00.html

is this going to be the end of the black jelly babies then

is this going to be the end of the black jelly babies thenCould be but that might create a black market in them. Perhaps alcoholics anonymous will object to green ones too.

firstly, this article is from the sun newspaper who's motto is why let the facts get in the way of a good news story

secondly, well if the chaps were approaching the black man and biting off the heads of the black jellybabies to taunt him then he certainly has a case.

unfortunately, the sun are to eager to go down the what a waste of police time root than to report in a balanced fashion.

What is the world coming to?*

*Apologies if I offended anyone with the above statement.

Fecking hell if we all read into things and took offense we would never make it to tea break. I read the other day that Dear Sir/ Madam is now no longer acceptable in a formal letter as it questions sexuality!

Surely there MUST have been more to it than that. You cant suspend someone on such trivial grounds??

For the record, black Jelly Babies do taste the nicest.

Two london tube workers were accused of racially harassing a colleague with JELLY BABIES. all they did was bite the heads of the black one's
full story here
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006510136,00.html
biting the head off first is wrong, should do the legs first and make then suffer

hehehe....

This one crops up every few years and usually makes an ass of everyone involved in it. :)

Everyone knows that the only Jelly Babies that should exist on God's Good Earth are Orange, Yellow and Green ones. All the rest are abberations.

Surely there MUST have been more to it than that. You cant suspend someone on such trivial grounds??

For the record, black Jelly Babies do taste the nicest.


Similar topics to this have been discussed before, unfortunately once an “official” complaint as been made it sets in motion a series of events, which seem unstoppable; the end result is usually farcical.

Two london tube workers were accused of racially harassing a colleague with JELLY BABIES. all they did was bite the heads of the black one's
full story here
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006510136,00.html

Political correctness gone mad :rant: :huh: :loopy:

Political correctness gone mad :rant: :huh: :loopy:
The Daily Fail had an article the other day saying that the phrase politically correct was politically incorrect cos it was invented by Ku Klux Klan. Mind you that is THE worst newspaper of all so they probably made it up.

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I'm all for equality between the sexes, indeed, its time to move on

BUT

I saw something today that truely made by blood run cold.

I was driving away from Meadowhall, when I saw a Articulated Lorry (yes one of those big ones with a trailer on the back) being driven

BY

A

WOMAN !!!!!!

Whats happening to this country ??????

Don't call me 'a woman'!:mad:

an articulated lorry

an articulated lorry



Yes, this is a serious issue mate

Don't call me 'a woman'!:mad:



Would you rather be called a man ?

i know mate, i agree we cant have them driving lorries, she should get your job on the buses and that way there would be a polite driver who stops for passengers even if they are stressed, and you could drive the lorry without stopping.

I'm all for equality between the sexes, indeed, its time to move on

BUT

I saw something today that truely made by blood run cold.

I was driving away from Meadowhall, when I saw a Articulated Lorry (yes one of those big ones with a trailer on the back) being driven

BY

A

WOMAN !!!!!!

Whats happening to this country ??????

You're stuck in a rut, and it's time you indeed move on! :rolleyes:

PS "What's happening to this country?". Needs an apostrophe and only one question mark. :thumbsup:

i know mate, i agree we cant have them driving lorries, .


Glad I'm not on my own on this issue

My God! You know what Lester, next they'll be letting them drive buses :rolleyes:

They so already Gaz E its crazy.

:o I've seen her! - She even had a.......... YORKIE!!!! (http://www.yorkie.org/cards/tilly.jpg) :o

I once saw a woman driving a.. <dare-i-say-it> Supertram!! Mind you, at least its on tracks and there is a simple start/stop control for it...:P

OK i'm going to be in the minority of women here and i am going to agree with you to a certain degree, i think i would've been surprised to see a woman driving and i feel more comfortable to see lorries being driven by men, not sure why though :confused: but some 'women' i use the term loosely look and act more like a man so if i saw someone like that i wouldn't be shocked :suspect: just realised this doesn't really make sense but someone might catch my drift :help:

There’s nothing wrong with women driving articulated lorries. I knew the daughter of the first female lorry driver in the U.K. — and that daugher, a bright, bubbly girl also had an HGV licence. And what a girl! She lived on the canal in a narrowboat and changed direction to become a newspaper reporter. I gave her her first job, and she proved just as good at that as she had in being an artic driver.

Some females are remarkably adept, so don’t knock ’em — worship ’em! I don’t enjoy being a passenger in a car, but I always felt safe when she was driving, and in fact I was safe! She cursed at the antics of other drivers on every journey we made, but she could certainly drive, and drive well.

I'm tempted to put on a comment, that would really stir up a hornets nest.

Shall I...... ?

Hey up!
Never mind sat in the cab of a lorry...

I wanna know who let her out of the kitchen!? :o

:o I've seen her! - She even had a.......... YORKIE!!!! (http://www.yorkie.org/cards/tilly.jpg) :o
:hihi: I was just about to write that. "Was she eating a Yorkie."
Maybe our periods are in sync too. hehehe

I wanna know who let her out of the kitchen!? :o
Maybe she was born with strong ankles, if she's able to drag that iron ball out of the kitchen, and onto a lorry ! :hihi:

They don't make ball & chains like they used to that's all I can say....

Which brings us neatly onto wimmin engineers....

What's all that about then? As if they haven't got enough to worry their pretty little heads about over who left the loo seat up n that...

Strrrrix, this one's worth slapping ! :D

Strrrrix, this one's worth slapping ! :D
Are we talking wet hand/bare legs? :love: :love: :love:

Hey up!
Never mind sat in the cab of a lorry...

I wanna know who let her out of the kitchen!? :o

Mmmm, women driving big trucks - sort of on par with male nurses...? ;)

Here in China, about half the bus drivers are women. They are often aggressive, stony-faced, implacable, obstinate and arrogant when driving and barging their way through the chaotic traffic.They also have no compunction about slinging people off the bus who try to avoid paying . They blast their horns on every possible occasion.

They are exactly like the male bus drivers here, in fact.

I'm all for equality between the sexes, indeed, its time to move on

BUT

I saw something today that truely made by blood run cold.

I was driving away from Meadowhall, when I saw a Articulated Lorry (yes one of those big ones with a trailer on the back) being driven

BY

A

WOMAN !!!!!!

Whats happening to this country ??????

But was she eating a Yorkie bar?

That has to be the question.

Women cannot eat Yorkie - FACT

Women cannot eat Yorkie - FACT
And the reason why not is?...

Its just Not. For. Girls.

And the reason why not is?...

Too thick to get into their delicate mouths ;)



runs and hides

Its just Not. For. Girls.
I see. I'll be off to empty my fridge then :hihi: .

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Political correctness gone mad :rant: :huh: :loopy:

I hearby nominate you for the sheffield Forum original post of the year award.

Is this what we fought two world wars for? Won't anyone think of the children? etc etc etc

Incidentally, are the 'City Lights' in Sheffield actually Christmas lights? I get the impression it's offensive to say the word Christmas, yet most of the lights in town say 'Happy Eid'. Is this what's known in the trade as 'political correctness gone mad', or PCGM, as it shall be known from this day forth... Or is it just a typo and the signs should read 'Happy Sid', in reference to the comedy actor Sid James, famed for his political correctness?

I've had to change my sons name to Opher.

i am sick of polilical correctness the way it has gone its just an over form of spin now for the folks in power to get round your human rights and freedom of speech also is for folks with to much time on there hands to worry about what over ppl are saying or doing its just gone to stupid and to far the way i see it....

sorry about the rant lol

I see that poor bloke with the gas tanks got 40 years today....perhaps its the beginning of the fightback against PC

I see that poor bloke with the gas tanks got 40 years today....perhaps its the beginning of the fightback against PCThat is a hell of a sentence, I can only recall it happening to Ian Huntley before although I'm sure there are others. This guy didn't actually do anything to make these bombs other than research it and write about it and so hopefully it will send a message to any of the other clowns who are thinking of planning anything. No politically correct sympathy for him from the judge which is a good thing.

It seems the pc brigade are just getting more and more people to join the BNP/NF.Thats the way I see it anyway.Just how do we stop them causing so much of this s***?

It seems the pc brigade are just getting more and more people to join the BNP/NF.Thats the way I see it anyway.Just how do we stop them causing so much of this s***?

How's that then?

How's that then?
many people who I work with are sick of reading stuff in the newspapers about how town centres are stopping carols from getting played through the towns speakers,how a certain council has stopped celebrating bonfire night and now it seems christmas stamp designs are now becoming limited to just a handful.I'm pretty sure the majority realise that this is down to the councils themselves and not individuals from certain faiths complaining.However,this is just the "help" the far-right needs to give themselves the boost they want.:|

Why is it that when any puts anything on here that upsets the sensibilities of the fluffy pinkoes, that they are deemed to be of the 'far right'?

I am about as far to the left as it possible to be. Yet on occasion find myself in agreement with the so called 'far right'.

The reason for this is that on these occasions it is common sense that is prevailing, not some 'right on' sense of political correctness.

There are some people who need to descend from their high horses into the mire occasionally, and see what life is really like at the street level.

Why is it that when any puts anything on here that upsets the sensibilities of the fluffy pinkoes, that they are deemed to be of the 'far right'?

I am about as far to the left as it possible to be. Yet on occasion find myself in agreement with the so called 'far right'.

The reason for this is that on these occasions it is common sense that is prevailing, not some 'right on' sense of political correctness.

There are some people who need to descend from their high horses into the mire occasionally, and see what life is really like at the street level.

Very well said, Artisan.

The thing is, the PC brigade can only cope with criticism by trying to malign and demonise those who don't blindly agree with everything they say. They seem to fear and hate those who argue against them with common sense arguments, and try to tar them as right-wing sympathisers, however ludicrous that is. I think they hope that mud will stick.

As you, I am pretty far over to the left, but that's obviously not trendy enough for the PC brigade to throw around as an insult these days....

StarSparkle

many people who I work with are sick of reading stuff in the newspapers about how town centres are stopping carols from getting played through the towns speakers,how a certain council has stopped celebrating bonfire night and now it seems christmas stamp designs are now becoming limited to just a handful.I'm pretty sure the majority realise that this is down to the councils themselves and not individuals from certain faiths complaining.However,this is just the "help" the far-right needs to give themselves the boost they want.:|

Maybe people should bother to look into pc scare-stories and realise that most are just that, either deliberately distorted or blown out of proportion.

If you're going to entertain racist views and support the far right (general statement, not saying you do personally) then at least be honest about it instead of blaming other people for your views. But that's the trouble with the right, no sense of personal responsibility...

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Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

Tha's merged threads wi completely different themes that happen to have same title

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Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

Tha's merged threads wi completely different themes that happen to have same title

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I wondered about that - but thought it was just me being a woman :suspect:

Mod note: Selection of rants merged.

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? Tha's merged threads wi completely different themes that happen to have same title :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

I wondered about that - but thought it was just me being a woman :suspect:

Will you just stop it right here, right now! Questioning the mods' actions at every end and turn? FGS! they have their reasons .... bandwidth, or something, probably :rolleyes:

I wondered about that - but thought it was just me being a woman :suspect:

Its odd Macbeth but I always thought you were a man! Shouldn't you have 'Lady Macbeth' as a username? :confused:

Incidentally, are the 'City Lights' in Sheffield actually Christmas lights? I get the impression it's offensive to say the word Christmas, yet most of the lights in town say 'Happy Eid'. Is this what's known in the trade as 'political correctness gone mad', or PCGM, as it shall be known from this day forth... Or is it just a typo and the signs should read 'Happy Sid', in reference to the comedy actor Sid James, famed for his political correctness?

You missed the discussion about the Christmas/Eid lights, which is on this thread...

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=156603&page=2&highlight=Eid

Incidentally, are the 'City Lights' in Sheffield actually Christmas lights? I get the impression it's offensive to say the word Christmas, yet most of the lights in town say 'Happy Eid'. Is this what's known in the trade as 'political correctness gone mad', or PCGM, as it shall be known from this day forth... Or is it just a typo and the signs should read 'Happy Sid',?

The 'Happy Sid' lights are being saved for the day after slimsid finally gets his leg over. Currently, these lights are gathering dust in the basement of a Council storeroom, but hopefully they (like slim's tackle) will work fine when they are needed :thumbsup:

The 'Happy Sid' lights are being saved for the day after slimsid finally gets his leg over. Currently, these lights are gathering dust in the basement of a Council storeroom, but hopefully they (like slim's tackle) will work fine when they are needed :thumbsup:

redrobbo is now off to the Town Hall to search the very storeroom! :hihi:

Maybe people should bother to look into pc scare-stories and realise that most are just that, either deliberately distorted or blown out of proportion.

If you're going to entertain racist views and support the far right (general statement, not saying you do personally) then at least be honest about it instead of blaming other people for your views. But that's the trouble with the right, no sense of personal responsibility...
I would NEVER support the far right.They're FAR too paranoid.Also I have a slight tinge to my skin.:clap:

You missed the discussion about the Christmas/Eid lights, which is on this thread...

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=156603&page=2&highlight=Eid
With a very jumbled 11 pages a lot of folk are gonna miss a lot of stuff :P

They call asylums 'care homes' these days too.

It's madness gone politically correct.


*Swift nod to Armando Ianucci*

Its odd Macbeth but I always thought you were a man! Shouldn't you have 'Lady Macbeth' as a username? :confused:
You are absolutely right Lord C - it is confusing. When I registered, I chose Macbeth without thinking it through - Mac reflects my being a Scot, and Beth is a bit of my name! I need to rethink, I don't really want to go with Lady Macbeth though, didn't like her much!

With a very jumbled 11 pages a lot of folk are gonna miss a lot of stuff :P

I've completely lost the plot :huh: - is this the thread where they're being rude about old biddies, or complaining about council housing? No, I remember its DonK's rant about a female bus driver eating a Yorkshire Terrier. Thats not PC is it? :suspect:

Its several threads which some (possibly deranged or maybe high) moderator saw fit to merge together.

The merging policy is getting a bit confusing around here. Three simulatenous "death penalty" threads are left to run, but other threads with only vaguely similar topics are merged without warning or comment (okay, sometimes with comment, but that doesn't make it any better).

they have their reasons .... bandwidth, or something, probably :rolleyes:

In the old days of bands, there was never this problem with the width.
They just sat on the floor or something.
If a band is too wide how can we do anything about it.
Ginger Baker used to be so spaced out that his width within the band must have been astronomical :hihi:

The merging policy is getting a bit confusing around here. Three simultaneous "death penalty" threads are left to run, but other threads with only vaguely similar topics are merged without warning or comment (okay, sometimes with comment, but that doesn't make it any better).

I'm now envisioning the "Death Penalty Megathread - post all your death penalty rants here please" [orginally posted by Judge Dredd] :hihi:

I would NEVER support the far right.They're FAR too paranoid.Also I have a slight tinge to my skin.:clap:

Like I said, it was a general statement directed at those who do.

But I'm glad to hear it :)

Its several threads which some (possibly deranged or maybe high) moderator saw fit to merge together.

The merging policy is getting a bit confusing around here. Three simulatenous "death penalty" threads are left to run, but other threads with only vaguely similar topics are merged without warning or comment (okay, sometimes with comment, but that doesn't make it any better).

Cyclone - just give us a break and don't be so offensive about the Mods.

If you have a problem, take it to the Helpdesk.

It's a judgement call on merges - problem is there are quite a few armchair generals around here who seem to always know best but never bother making comments through the appropriate channels.

I reported the multiple death sentence threads several times. I didn't get an acknowledgement and nothing was done.
I've complained (including via contact us) about vaguely related threads being merged, and had the ticket closed with no action a couple of times too.

I wasn't trying to be offensive, it was supposed to be a little bit tongue in cheek. But the fact remains that the merging policy is applied selectively and with very broad parameters by some mods.

I'm hardly a mod basher, so asking me to 'give you a break' is uneccessary.

I reported the multiple death sentence threads several times. I didn't get an acknowledgement and nothing was done.
I've complained (including via contact us) about vaguely related threads being merged, and had the ticket closed with no action a couple of times too.

I wasn't trying to be offensive, it was supposed to be a little bit tongue in cheek. But the fact remains that the merging policy is applied selectively and with very broad parameters by some mods.

I'm hardly a mod basher, so asking me to 'give you a break' is uneccessary.

You came over as offensive. You have frequently been offensive to the Mods in the past. Asking you to 'give us a break' was a mild rebuke compared to what we could have said. If you mean something to be tongue in cheek, put the odd smiley in, rather than expect us to be mind-readers.

If threads were not merged it was possibly that we felt them different enough to be not worth merging - as I said, it's a judgement call and we don't claim to be perfect.

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And with that we'll close the thread. It's run its course.