Well, we were burgled not so long ago, which was nice. But id just like to say what a good service the police gave. I recieved a nice information pack with free stickers for windows and a invisable pen thing to write my postcode on things and today i recieved a letter explaining about what had happened to the people who they caught. it was all very comforting.

so a big thank you to the Hamerton Road police, you were great, thank you!

Originally posted by HarrietStar
Well, we were burgled not so long ago, which was nice. But id just like to say what a good service the police gave. I recieved a nice information pack with free stickers for windows and a invisable pen thing to write my postcode on things and today i recieved a letter explaining about what had happened to the people who they caught. it was all very comforting.

so a big thank you to the Hamerton Road police, you were great, thank you!

I,ve had recent contact with the police and was pleased with how they delt with my problem.

I was burgled in July and had my motorbike stolen in November and both times the Sheffield police were curteous, prompt and seemlingly effective within their means. I was left with a very good impression and they have my full support.

Now on the other hand, I'm not at all impressed with the treatment given by traffic cops.

Where I work was broken into a couple of weeks ago, the police came out that morning, as did the crime scene unit, they were all very friendly and helpful, and even made a follow-up phone call to let us know the results of the forensics... couldn't believe everything was sorted before 1pm, and it wasn't discovered until 9am... All just for a smashed window... 10/10 as far as i'm concerned.

About time we got some praise for our humble Bobbies they do deserve it!

To say they do a very difficult job with their hands tied, they deserve everyone's help and support.

Originally posted by markham
To say they do a very difficult job with their hands tied, they deserve everyone's help and support.


There's no question I hope, that the police are entitled to our help and support.

But how are their hands tied ??

Someone watching their every move. People ready to bombard them with complaints every time one of them looks to be over-enthusiastic with an arrest, irrespective of how much of a kicking the villain is handing out. Stupid judges undoing all their hard work. Lack of manpower. Accusations of racism. Social workers. The list goes on!

i got mugged on a bus and the guy only took 2.45. I phoned the police when i got home as a way of calming my girlfirend down, never expecting them to do anything. I got a squad car straight away, they cuaght the guy and he got 8 years, after 4 his parole was turned down so he is still in Donny nick.

I have no complaints about the police, they have been exceptional with me.


Why is my story never in the Daily Mail???

Originally posted by markham
Someone watching their every move. People ready to bombard them with complaints every time one of them looks to be over-enthusiastic with an arrest, irrespective of how much of a kicking the villain is handing out. Stupid judges undoing all their hard work. Lack of manpower. Accusations of racism. Social workers. The list goes on!

I am personally quite happy that the majority of policemen do the job honestly and with good conscience. However the constraints placed upon them by society, parliament and the judiciary are largely of their own making. There have been some notorious cases of wrongful convictions arising from the manufacture of evidence and the with-holding of evidence. A major police force has admitted to institutional racism. Gratuitous violence during an arrest shown on national television etc. etc.

All these conspire to undermine public trust and confidence. On top of this you have the pathetic politician's burning desire to criminalise all kinds of innocuous human frailty thus making the average copper somebody's bogeyman.

Who are the "Sheffield Police"? Can't say I've heard of a force called that.

Originally posted by t020
Who are the "Sheffield Police"? Can't say I've heard of a force called that.

There goes the other rib... I don't think anyone said it was a force, people are just talking about their experiences of police in Sheffield.... why am i wasting my time?? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by t020
Who are the "Sheffield Police"? Can't say I've heard of a force called that.

Well, it would be South Yorkshire Constabulary, that work in Sheffield - so for all intents and purposes "Sheffield Police".

Alex

well when i was burgled..... the police came out straight away, they had there forensics out first thing in the morning, everything checked up etc........

i heard a rumour about who had done this burglary...... informed the polcie who did nothing about it, i even gave them an address to go to, rather than take the law in to my own hands (where i would have been arrested myself) police (as far as im aware) never checked up on this, and did not even conctact me or anything after i gave them the information!!!

a few days later they had moved from the house of the address id given them, so i personally think the police CAN be a waste of time

Hi Folks

I suppose unless some instant compensation can be aquired, whats the point of chasing burglars?

If I was in charge of the Law, I would hit at the people who can pay for their crime, no matter how trivial, the honest man in the street, who has a wage coming in, an address, a Wife and kids, these can be targeted easily and made to cough up!

lets take it a step further, a motorist, nows theres a good one, we have a computer that can give us their location, they will obviously more than likely be working, in order to afford to drive a car, and we don't even have to arrest them. Lets simply install some cameras, if they go over 30.000001 miles an hour, instantly fine them £100! We are certain to get our money then!

That way, we can buy more police cars and afford good entertainment facilities at out police headquarters!

What a terrible dream, that unfortunately came true!

I am only joking, but jesting apart, there is alot of truth in what I have just said!

I remember ten years ago, before the cameras, at Chesterfield, the police cars getting reposessed as they had not been paid for! Seriously!

The police went without their cars for a week, they had to use their own cars, if they owned one, other were given wheelchairs as they did not actually know how to walk!

Those were the days, it would never happen in this day and age!

As for the Drug addicts, they can stab, maim, kill, steal, burgle, cause an afray, etc, but they will still walk away from a policeman, they simply dont want the agro, the smell in their car, the abuse, I feel sorry for them, even the Law does not want to know about their plight, even the prisons dont want them!¬

Their are officers out there who do a good job, but at the end of the day they are compromised by Red tape from above, so don't be too hard on them! Don't forget, they take orders, they are ther to enforce the Law, not make the Law!

Regards

Mark. .

Glad to hear some good things about the Police for once, good to hear robbers are getting banged up.

we got a letter on saturday saying they had caught the burgler, he had appeared at a hearing and has been bailed and curfewed. I think its a good thing and hopefully he will get some help as apparently he is a known drug addict.

I have been informed that I hold the record of being the first person ever to complain about the noise of the SYP helicoptor.
If it flies by it not so bad but to hover at less than 1000ft for over 1/2 hour is beond a joke.
So is there call centre number .I gave up after 10mins.
No wonder they dont get complaints you can not get through

Originally posted by HarrietStar
we got a letter on saturday saying they had caught the burgler, he had appeared at a hearing and has been bailed and curfewed. I think its a good thing and hopefully he will get some help as apparently he is a known drug addict.

I wonder if this was the same guy who robbed our house when we lived on harcourt road, he was also a known addict who incidently lived in the hostel next door,when I moved out they let the family have my old flat and they tried to cash checks that had been posted to my old address in error. he got charged for that although I never got to know the final outcome

Originally posted by PAULR
If it flies by it not so bad but to hover at less than 1000ft for over 1/2 hour is beond a joke.


I'd rather be woken up by the helecopter than by someone breaking into my house. I'd rather be woken up by the helecopter than having a good night's sleep and then finding my car had been stolen.

They're hovering up there for a reason. Be grateful that they're looking after us. :loopy:

We do have a good Police Force, But like most institutions there are good and bad. Unfortunately there are far too many bad Police. I do sympathise with many of the things they have to put up with, But as one reply said, " They Bring This Upon Themselves ". However, One Black British Boy close to me tried to have an officer charged with Racism, Why ? Because he was stopped twice in one evening, On the second time several youths had backed up the boy, The Police walked away. Now. I have a Nephew that has no criminal record, He has been stopped several times in one evening alone. Even twice on the way to work, Making him late. I must add, Most times by the same officer. He does not cry Racism, His friends do not face up to the police for him. It is difficult for Officers that have to stop and search. So many times criminals go undetected because the officer is afraid of accuzations being made. Finaly reporting crime is becoming a post code lottery.. Hence far too much unreported crime keeping the crime figures down a little

Originally posted by RODGERS
Finaly reporting crime is becoming a post code lottery.. Hence far too much unreported crime keeping the crime figures down a little

Forgive me, but i don't understand this... how does your post code have anything to do with reporting crime... why is it a lottery?

Like many services, Where you live decides the quality of service. ie, If you live in my area and are burgled, You will be given a crime number over the phone, The Police will call the following day ( If they remember ) to take a statement. If you live in an affluent area, The Police are there within minutes, Car crime is rife, Yet try reporting your car stolen if you live on a run down Council Estate like Manor. Parson's cross etc. Drug dealing. Report a drug dealer here in Shirecliffe, The Police do not want to know. Yet there are areas where the drug squad will act immediately... I cannot remember the last time I saw a police officer on my road ( a main road ) Yet There are many patrolling areas like Nether Edge, Fox Houise and Grindleford etc.

Originally posted by RODGERS
Like many services, Where you live decides the quality of service. ie, If you live in my area and are burgled, You will be given a crime number over the phone, The Police will call the following day ( If they remember ) to take a statement. If you live in an affluent area, The Police are there within minutes, Car crime is rife, Yet try reporting your car stolen if you live on a run down Council Estate like Manor. Parson's cross etc. Drug dealing. Report a drug dealer here in Shirecliffe, The Police do not want to know. Yet there are areas where the drug squad will act immediately... I cannot remember the last time I saw a police officer on my road ( a main road ) Yet There are many patrolling areas like Nether Edge, Fox Houise and Grindleford etc.

So not really a lottery then?

What you say may be true, i don't know. I do know that i reported a crime on a property in what is officially Sharrow, that comes under the goverments list of deprived areas, and the police and forensics both came out that morning. That was for really what just amounted to a broken window.

i really do think those comments are a massive generalisation, how do you know how many crimes are officially reported in each area and the response rates for those calls?
As for cries of racism, i don't know about sheffield, but in london you are 4 times more likely to be involved in a random stop and search if you are a black man aged 16-25 than if you are white.
And I think the case of stephen lawrence and the way it was handled shows that, like all institutions, the police did have its problems. Hopefully, these are being ironed out as we speak.

Hopefully it is being ironed out, and it's not perfect, but the facts are that there are proportionally more crimes detected by black men than white men.

Now you could argue all sorts of things around that, but they are the facts. The Police live in the real world, and they have to deal with real criminals on the streets.

There is racism in the Police, but it's lessensing, and ideas like banning officers from the BNP are good moves towards this.

Don't get carried away with the idea that they 'stop and search' lots of strangers. Stop and Search is used mainly on KNOWN criminals.

This reminds me of an occasion many years ago when I attended a late-night party, had rather too much drink and decided to sleep it off in the back of the car.

I was awoken by a police constable who asked what I was doing there. I explained, pointing to the only house with lights still on. "Do you have the car keys in your pocket, Sir." (He adressed me as Sir, which PCs don't seem to do anymore)

"Why, yes, I think so"

"Then might I suggest, Sir, that you return to the house and deposit them there?"

"Why would I want to do that."

"Because, Sir, it is an offence to be drunk in charge of a motor vehicle."

"But I have have no intention of driving"

"That may be so, Sir, but it is still an offence. Please do as I say."

"Very well officer, thank you"

"Not at all, Sir. Goodnight."

"Goodnight, officer."

Towards the end of the days when police and public still saw each other as being on the same side, not potential enemies.

The police do a good job in adverse conditions.

Judges, politicians and the Lord Chancellor are the bane of society - not the criminals - or the police.
If the judges did their jobs properly there'd be appropriate sentences.
If the politicians lived in the real world there'd be enough money to fund a decent prison service.
And if the Lord Chancellor functioned at all then the entire legal system may begin to serve society.
And if this happened there'd be fewer criminals and less need for police...

But seriously - the UK could make a fortune exporting mercenaries to the most dangerous parts of the world - a kind of extreme National Service - broadcast it and we could further the economy with television rights.
Oh, oops I forgot - we did it already in Iraq.

But if we sent nuisance kids at 15 out to Iraq with a dodgy boar war rifles or something then we'd surely see a decline in domestic crime?

Originally posted by Mr_E

But if we sent nuisance kids at 15 out to Iraq with a dodgy boar war rifles or something then we'd surely see a decline in domestic crime?

Why are people constantly wanting to train and arm anti-social youth? Instead of hanging around street corners with mobile phones they'd be there with uzis and ak47s. Heaven help us then. :loopy:

Incidentally, what did the boars do to warrant us declaring war on them? Is there oil in them thar pigs? :D

im not happy with the way the police are dealing with things,my mates daughter whos just 5yrs old nearly got knocked down by a asian lad on a little motorbike riding on a path then before that i nearly got knocked down i rang the police to make a complaint they said they would come out and see me but they never showed up.

...but just so you know... it's South Yorkshire POLICE, not CONSTABULARY. Don't gripe back, I hate myself enough already for making the effort to register just to write that!!

Hey, blummin good site though...!

just to keep you all updated. the burgler was given bail and curfewed as i said - he then skipped bail. About 3 weeks later he was caught again, and for some reason which I don't understand, given bail again, and guess what, he skipped bail again - that's the latest, he hasn't been caught since he last skipped bail. But am i right in thinking its the judge that grants bail not the police?

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) will (in the case of repeat offenders) generally request either bail with conditions, or a remand in custody. However, their defence solicitor will fight against it, for unconditional bail etc. The magistrate or judge will make that decision.

just to keep everyone updated, our burgler has been sentanced to 4 months imprisonment. His assistant has been sentanced to a 12 month rehabilitation order and has to pay us compensation.

Once again, I am impressed with the police's actions with this case and they have done a very good job of keeping us informed.

:loopy:
Are you kidding me? My boyfriend had his car broken into, fortunatley they didn't manage to take anything. The police came but didn't even bother to have a good look at his car never mind take prints. They didn't even look inside the car, it was the next morning before we realised they'd tried to get the stereo out. Do me a favour, they haven't done him any. Kids seem to get away with anything and the police appear powerless against them!!

well i was only speaking of my own experiences which have been of the Hammerton Road division and the Sheffield Magistrates Court. Of course not everyone can be having great experiences with the police, and i'm sure there is room for improvement, but other than prevent the crime in the first place, I think the police did a good job in our case.

Originally posted by HarrietStar
Well, we were burgled not so long ago, which was nice. But id just like to say what a good service the police gave. I recieved a nice information pack with free stickers for windows and a invisable pen thing to write my postcode on things and today i recieved a letter explaining about what had happened to the people who they caught. it was all very comforting.

so a big thank you to the Hamerton Road police, you were great, thank you!

Whats an invisable pen ? sounds interesting, what do you have to do with it ?

It's ink that only shows up under ultra violet light.

So you can have your name/address/postcode written on your DVD player without anyone knowing, then if it's nicked and recovered, they'll know who's it is.

Originally posted by markham
Someone watching their every move. People ready to bombard them with complaints every time one of them looks to be over-enthusiastic with an arrest, irrespective of how much of a kicking the villain is handing out. Stupid judges undoing all their hard work. Lack of manpower. Accusations of racism. Social workers. The list goes on!

Not to mention the paperwork.

THEY are doing a job you woudent WONT

i work quite closely with bobbies and i find them great, its the law that bites, not the bobbies. but yes, some do abuse their position

On my four encounters with the Police since arriving in Sheffield they have always been helpful, friendly and efficient.

My fiance went missing a short while ago, I called the police for advice and within 2 hours they filed a missing persons report. We searched for him for 2 days and they found his body in North Sheffield. Had it not been for their prompt action and support during the time I was alone, manning the search, he could have been left for days. The helicopters were vital and tracked his sim card signal. I have nothing but praise for these people who work so hard on our behalf. Their follow up support has really helped in such a tragic, unbearable time.