Have just had a full day working in student house's arround Sheffield and was once again shocked at the state of them.

There are one or two of them that I go in that are filthy anyway and the Landlords do nothing about it but the five I saw this morning are well looked after and redecorated each year.

The first one had to be re plastered in the kitchen and totaly gutted because of the state it had been left in.

In another my boots were sticking to the floor where I was stood, and the smell was unbearable.

Of the five there was only one of them that was ok.

There is was one house that I went in about five years ago where the tenants had been using there cellar as a dustbin and all there rubbish from the last few months was down at the bottom of the steps. I needed to get to the consumer unit in the cellar but refused to go in because of the smell. They seemed to think it was acceptable and were well p****d off when I returned with the landlord.

Why do some of them live like this?

Late Rebellion...

It's their first time away from their parents who taught them (and enforced it) to keep their rooms tidy and they pay them back in living like animals. Also, if you never had to work for a living and to sustain your existence, you're also less likely to appreciate what you've got or what others provide to you.

Just my 2p.

The students I lived with in the 2nd Year were like that :( Made my time unbearable their. If they dropped food on the carpet, they would just rub it in, instead of picking it up. Truly disgusting.

However my house in the 3rd Year (new housemates), was always spotless, the way I like it. Made my life much more enjoyable knowing I could walk bare foot into the kitchen for breakfast in the morning.

So to answer the question, no not all students are dirty.

To be honest I normally found the dirtiest students were those that came from a better background.

Not all students live like that, but you are giving four or five kids a house to themselves... its hardly surprising they go a bit mad. I think that it is good that the uni's are trying to get all the students out of private properties, for one thing it can be dangerous as a lot of landlords don't give much thought to the state of the houses, and are just happy to get their money. Maybe when all the students are living in Uni owned flats they'll take more care of them.

i think you're going over the top here a bit. True some students do live like that but it is the minority. Everyone I know (3rd yrs) look after their places. I mean why live in squalor?

*sigh*

I hate the anti-student mentality of some people on this forum, not all of us are scruffy chavs who stay out till all hours on the razz and come home blind drunk making raucous rackets you know.

Originally posted by Rich
*sigh*

I hate the anti-student mentality of some people on this forum, not all of us are scruffy chavs who stay out till all hours on the razz and come home blind drunk making raucous rackets you know.

But come on mate most are ;)

Originally posted by oasismark
But come on mate most are ;)

Um, no.

As I said, don't tar all students with the chav brush just cos of a few mindless tw@s :loopy:

Originally posted by Rich
Um, no.

As I said, don't tar all students with the chav brush just cos of a few mindless tw@s :loopy:

But you can only form an opinion on what you see or hear

That's how the misguided form an opinion.

Speaking as a person who owns some property (hate the term landlord) which is sometimes rented to working couples and sometimes to students, I have to say Ive had some nice clean freindly students and some rough ones who seem to think that because I own property I am a b...... so they wont bother to clean up or look after the garden which they always promise to do when they move in.
Anyway a bit of generalising here, teachers, social studies types most definately scruffy.

Dragon

p.s. sorry if theres any spelling to be picked up on as I didnt do too well in the school dept. doesnt matter though really.

Originally posted by Rich
*sigh*

I hate the anti-student mentality of some people on this forum, not all of us are scruffy chavs who stay out till all hours on the razz and come home blind drunk making raucous rackets you know.

*sigh and sigh some more*

Lets get a few things clear.

If you read the first post you will notice the bit about some landlords not caring, if these house's are scruffy to start with then the landlord can't complain, its their own fault.

But where the house's are spotless to start with such as the five I refered to then the tennants are in the wrong. When four out of five are in a state you can see there is a pattern emerging.
Of the 50 or so student properties I have to visit, a good 35 or so are disgusting.

This is not an "anti student mentality " on my behalf its a 'anti, having to work in filthy house's mentality".

In Sheffield we have quite a few different types of communities, and in all of them you see dirty house's but on the whole the you will find the community with the greatset number of filthy house's is that of the student's.

Most of the students I meet are nice people some are just plain daft, like the one who left a replica fire arm lying arround in a house I visited last week FYI not a good idea when your land lord is visiting with a tradesman.

Niether would I say any of the students I've met are chav's. There is a distinct lack of burberry in there and most chav's I meet are quite tidy, clean sooped up Corsa's and clean front rooms to get their big T.Vs in to watch Trisha.

Originally posted by Sidla
That's how the misguided form an opinion.

Its also the way that the person on the ground who see's the facts forms an opinion. Often these opinions may be "un P.C" and not what you want to hear but usually they are the best sorts of opinion.

my view is that a lot of the houses are absoloute **** tips which are charged stupid prices for. true some students are raggy ******** but thats a minority, usually peopel who have been pampered by there parents and have no household skills whatsoever.

me and my g/f looked into the non student rental market as most student houses are ****ty and targeted by burgelers, and are usually to share with 10000 people. we now live in a nice flat in fulwood. id rather bike to uni every day than live in a ghetto.

i'm a student and i'm not dirty.. i have a bath at least once a month!

(joke.. no really!)

I've lived next door to a student house with shared back garden for 3 years and frequently have to tidy up after them to stop our garden turning into a tip. We have had to put their bin out for collection every week because they will otherwise leave it to mount up and up. Nearly every time we have been on holiday we have come back to mountain of overflowing rubbish.

There is also the problem of cigarette ends thrown out of their windows on to our garden and in the guttering and remains of takeaways, chewing gum and other rubbish chucked on the passageway and in the garden.

God knows what the house is like inside.

I wouldn't agree that all students are filthy (I was one myself not that long ago!!) and certainly don't have an anti-student mentality, but we have now had three different groups of students in this house and they have all created the same problems with rubbish.

Ive lived with a few people since being a student. its all down to the people. some of them were absolutly discusting, some of them were brilliantly clean. i myself am in the middle, i kinda live till its messy and then have a massive tidy, but it never gets to the point were it was unbarable.

the comment made about the first years having just left home and doing what they want. Most second years start to tidy a bit more, but theres always a few who stay dirty. by the time they become third years they are all at least 21 and like to keep things tidy.

My friends from my final year lived in such a nasty house and by the end of it, after they had spent there own money doing it up it looked ten times better. it was all done on a tight budget, but there garden was brilliant! There were holes in the wall were the dart board had been, but that was it. the landlord could easily ask for more money per room for that house now my friends have done it up.

Its just down to peoples standards. some Landlords think they can get away with it and others just dont care as long as you pay your rent and they keep the bond afterwards (never happened to me but did to a few people i know) and then theres the majority (in my experience) who do care and do care if the house is a tip.

Landlords have to judge the people there renting out to before they rent it to them and the people renting have to judge the Landlords before they rent from them. thats what i did and i was never done wrong to.

Part of the problem seems to me to come from sharing with friends, whether students or not, in that everyone resents the amount of housework they perceive themselves doing in relation to everyone else.

Why should I have to pay all the bills and then recoup the money off my housmates? Why do I always have to drag the wheelie bin onto the road on collection day?..

Student houses are often unmaintained pits to start with (most of Broomhill it seems) and landlords often refuse.don't bother to maintain them in any fit state. I've seen houses up for rent with black (due to mould) freezers/fridgers, sick on the carpet. Landlords do seem to think they can treat students like s**t.

However a lot of students treat the houses with disdain because its not their own/their parents and they wont be there next year. And to say that only a small number of students go out till all hours and are loud and messy is a complete pile of rubbish...

If landlords SPEAK to their tenants instead of being faceless people behind letting agencies you tend to find that tenants will look after the house...