would anyone having any info at all on the possible murder
of terry hurst please phone the incident room on 0114 2964515.
Terry was a good hearted lad , wouldn't hurt a fly.
he had learning difficulties so would perhaps be a target for the
more unscrupulous persons of our society.
he was seen on monday in city centre.
then , possibly murdered, was found tuesday in moorland near bolsterstone. nr stocksbridge.
he came from shiregreen and moved to penistone.
this possible murder is not drugs related.
terry was a clean living lad who was due to do his bronze duke of edinbrough award with the boys brigade.
anyone who knows anything at all please speak up.

2 17 year old lads and a 15 year old girl being held

Originally posted by kirky
2 17 year old lads and a 15 year old girl being held
Isn't it depressing?
Life has so little value to so many people

And the worst bit is that if they did it and are convicted, being under 18 they'll probably only go down for a couple of years.

So sad to hear of a nice sounding lad like Terry losing their life.

I am in-directly connected to this incident, my sister used to date this person and is therefore linked to the individual, I believe that my family shall be contacting the relevant people to give their account of things, I have my own suspicions as to who one of the youth's is, but I am not stating any names.

As expected, my sister is very upset at this news.

If I hear anything further, I shall try and keep everyone informed while keeping things discreet and thoughtfull to those who have lost someone dear to them.

I went to college with Terry. He was a great guy and would never hurt anyone or anything. I can't believe this has happened to him. He was the last person to deserve this.
I'm gonna miss him so much!

Sarah (with the dreads) x

cheers kirky
Mod: Details removed for legal reasons

Its really sad - another example of the youth of today showing their true colours (not the victim). Someone said recently that violent crime was actually on the decrease - the opposite seems true to me - perhaps they should climb down from their ivory towers and have a look whats really happening out there...

My thoughts go out to his family...at this sad time.

yes quite.
theyve been charged with his murder .
the girls been put in local authority care and the boys are in a young offender's unit.
slap on the hand job again.
just like in the jamie bulger case.

with them being 17 does that mean theyll get put in prison
when their 18- when convicted.

does any one know.?

As this is a public forum do you think we should put a stop to this discussion? It only takes one fool to post a name for it to jeopardise the entire case.

Let's just say that anyone who has any information should contact the relevant authorities and leave it at that?

Nah I don't think it should be closed. I don't think that people are daft enough to go around posting names of suspects. Plus it may help jog people's memorys if they read this.

I think alchresearch was refering to me as the one fool,
because i stated where the girl came from.
But im not about to put names on here.
if i want to discuss private things then id send a pm.

all we want is justice for terry, as im sure that if it was someone on here who lost a close friend then they would want the murderers found as soon as possible.

apart from which who would have been their next victim.
if they hadn't been caught.

Mod: The usual legal guidelines still apply here.

Please DO NOT post any information that might identify any person, including relatives, friends, addresses, workplaces, schools, etc.

This could be regarded as sub-judice and might jeopardise any conviction.

many apologies tony.
let justice prevail and we'll leave it at that.

Too right Tara! Let's hope that the Police have caught the ones that did it. It sounds like an especially horrible crime. :(

Originally posted by tara
I think alchresearch was refering to me as the one fool,
because i stated where the girl came from.
But im not about to put names on here.
if i want to discuss private things then id send a pm.

all we want is justice for terry, as im sure that if it was someone on here who lost a close friend then they would want the murderers found as soon as possible.

apart from which who would have been their next victim.
if they hadn't been caught.

Hi Tara,

I was NOT referring to you as a fool.

I was referring to an issue a few months ago when certain allegations were made regarding a member of the Royal Family and a sexual act, and then some moron posted full details and names on a forum - not this one I hasten to add.

I apologise if you thought I was referring to you. With hindsight I should have added this earlier.

apologies accepted.

regarding the culprits being under age should not affect the outcome.
The schoolboy killer of Luke W got life this week so it puts this case in good stead.
Hope so anyway.

i just hope youre right.
the culprits have a court hearing tomorrow.
(as stated in last nights look local paper for north sheffield.)
so im not stating anything hundreds of other people havent
already read.
as for poor luke warmsley thats just horrible too,
what kind of monsters are walking this earth.

Shouldn't that be 'alleged culprits'?

Originally posted by metalman
Shouldn't that be 'alleged culprits'?

Does it really matter? Enough nitpicking already!

maybe so.
charged alleged culprits.

I've just picked up the verdict on the three teenagers who admitted killing Terry - they got life the minimum they will serve on 13 years (for one of them).

Story here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4337153.stm

I should warn you it gives some details of what they did at the end of the report.

Originally posted by wendy
I've just picked up the verdict on the three teenagers who admitted killing Terry - they got life the minimum they will serve on 13 years (for one of them).

Story here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4337153.stm


I see the judge is quoted as saying " this is not a reflection on society today."

Wish I could believe him !

This is so very very sad. How people can do things like this is completely beyond me!

K x

We never got to know the one thing his family and friends should know-----WHY?

Many things are beyond you Kristian!

As horrific as it is, this case is not the harbinger of doom or a reflection on our constantly downward pointing society.

Bad things happen every day!

They got got caught for a foul deed and shall suffer the penalty.

A life of mourning for the families involved :( :( :( :( :(

I was also indirectly linked to Terry-lee as i did work experience at his school for two weeks and i got to know him really well. The monday he went missing i had seen him in town and was really mad that i didnt have the chance to stop and talk to him. Imagine my shock when i got the news paper! Was interviewed by the police cos i saw him after his last sighting but it came to nothing.

I didnt know him very well but its an awful loss.

Still makes you wonder what can send three teenagers over the edge like that? :confused: Its sick. Sympthathies to the family, and I am glad justice has been done.

yes ive just seen the evil faces of the thugs that murdered my sons friend, on calender news.
hope they rot in hell.

Originally posted by venger
Many things are beyond you Kristian!

As horrific as it is, this case is not the harbinger of doom or a reflection on our constantly downward pointing society.

Bad things happen every day!

They got got caught for a foul deed and shall suffer the penalty.

A life of mourning for the families involved :( :( :( :( :(

Where on earth do you get your opinions? Can you in this case tell me what was going through their minds? I'm guessing not. The press have not been able to give us an insight, so where are you coming from? :loopy:

The fact that you choose to disagree with me quite openly on other threads is of no consequence here. I am quite aware that todays society is not a nice one to live in in many ways, but where is that relevant to the thoughts that I have expressed inthis thread?!?

We don't agree on many issues; apart from that, let it go. I'm just sad (once again) that another human being has lost their life! The rights and wrongs of the justice system were never mentioned! :huh:

K x

Unfortunately in most cases of crime and specifically violent crime we never find out why!...... this is probably due to the fact that most offenders dont know why they commit such horrific acts!!!!!!!! :( :( :( :(

the trial was finished yesterday and ended with the three youths gettin life one with a minimum of 15 yr,s before he is eligible for release the other two have to serve 13 yr,s before they can be released but it is obvious that the ring leader was john sawdon and jermaine and rebecca were pawns in his mind games and will suffer along with him but no one can say that no remorse was shown by any as jermaine and rebecca were willing to testify against the the ring leader although it may have been to ease there minds it was still remorse and at least they were willing

Which one was the ring leader in the pics? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4337153.stm

skatiechik

the one with the piercing in his eyebrow

skatie chik
its the one in the middle

remorse thats a joke.
no amount of remorse will ever make up for what they did.
the other two werent exactly held at gun point and made to do it were they.
they could have not taken part or could have helped terry.
At least he would have had a better chance one on to one.
If anyones read in detail the terrible things they did to him then they would think the same as me.
no one but no one can be excused for this hideous crime.

I remember hearing about this on the radio,shortly after the lads body was found i couldnt believe it and was shocked.Then today i read the full story in the star,i have to admit thru a blur of tears.How could 3 young people commit such a crime against such an innocent young man.I can only presume that they were high on drugs or something,which of cause dosent excuse them whatsoever.My heart goes out to terris family and friends at this time and the future.

Originally posted by demon006
the trial was finished yesterday and ended with the three youths gettin life one with a minimum of 15 yr,s before he is eligible for release the other two have to serve 13 yr,s before they can be released but it is obvious that the ring leader was john sawdon and jermaine and rebecca were pawns in his mind games and will suffer along with him but no one can say that no remorse was shown by any as jermaine and rebecca were willing to testify against the the ring leader although it may have been to ease there minds it was still remorse and at least they were willing

It may have been remorse, I don't know. But they will have been advised by solicitors to testify against the ringleader because showing willingness to co-operate will result in a lesser sentence. Which it did.

I blame TV - video nasties and additives in monster munch....

but perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps they were just EVIL.

remorse in this crime is a joke and i am sure that john will feel none wotsoever but at least we can fall sleep better knowing that a least one or two of the people involved will have this eating away at them for the next 15 to 25 yr,s for me although very small it is of some comfort as i hope it is to others i am not saying that this makes the crime any less worse but it does make me feel a bit easier to know that this is gonna eat away at them and they are never gonna get away from there horrendous crime and that they will suffer with the thought of this until the day they die as others will also my heart goes out to terry,s family and friends and i hope that they can get through this and start to have some kind of life if any at all as i am sure that terry would have wanted the people around him who cared to get on and never forget him but not to let it control there life and for no one else but the three to blame them selves because at the end of the day there is nothing any one can do to stop this sort of thing happening except for the people that are committing the crime in the first place they have free will and they can use it how ever they wish that is one mistake that god made he gave us free will although if we didn't have it then we would never live a full life so it is both a good and bad thing

I hear what you are saying, but surely to have this eating away at them would mean that they would have to have a conscience in the first place.
Which i dont think any of them have.
But if theres a slight chance that any of them are suffering
then as you say it will haunt them for the rest of their lives and i hope it does.
But theres a thought in the back of my head that says - if someone else had not told the police about what they had done
they would still be walking around and most deffinately have done it to someone else.
that person deserves a medal.
however i will leave this now.

http://www.rotherhamtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=85&ArticleID=969373

Always the victim of bullies; poor bugger TERRY Hurst suffered at the hands of bullies most of his life. He had a speech impediment and the mental age of a boy four years his junior and was fostered as a young child.

Originally posted by demon006
remorse in this crime is a joke and i am sure that john will feel none wotsoever but at least we can fall sleep better knowing that a least one or two of the people involved will have this eating away at them for the next 15 to 25 yr,s....abridged

They will only be 29, 30 and 32 years old when they are released (which they more then likely will be so long as they don't get themselves into trouble in prison), and will have almost whole lives ahead of them. If remorse in this crime is a joke then surely they won't let it eat away at them?

how can people do this? :confused:

I just don't understand.

i got this through my email today

"This has been sent on behalf of Michael Purse Student Support

Dear Colleague/Student

Friends of Terry Lee Hurst, who lost his life in tragic circumstances last year, are making a CD of music Terry liked and of personal remembrances of the popular Castle student. Anybody who knew Terry and would like to participate are invited to the Drum Community Media Centre, Paternoster Row on Tuesday 5th April between 10am and 5pm where the CD will be recorded. The group will also be raising funds in College for a permanent memorial to Terry.

Thanks
Mick

All replies should be sent to Michael.purse@sheffcol.ac.uk "

Thanks so much for this.
my son and his mate are guitarists but they have also wrote a couple of songs including one they did for terry and performed it at a little memorial service that was held at the bb church where terry went.
they will be very interested in helping with this and will email that student support teacher a.s.a.p.
thanks again.

in response to frank 1987

i am hopin to attend on the 5th of april but feel that it may be awkward bcos i am friends with the ex girlfriend of terry and i know that she would like to attend and add her own song to the cd but both her and myself are worried that it may cause problems at the place it is being held there fore if u cud speak to those involved in the recording and make sure that there will be no problems and no objections to myself and her attendin and that all the people that are attendin this special day will respect terry enough to realise that they are doin it for terry and have asked anyone who knew and cared for terry to leave there feelings aside and let those who cared for terry take part if only to refrain from tarnishin terrys memory

Originally posted by tara
Thanks so much for this.
my son and his mate are guitarists but they have also wrote a couple of songs including one they did for terry and performed it at a little memorial service that was held at the bb church where terry went.
they will be very interested in helping with this and will email that student support teacher a.s.a.p.
thanks again.

Tara

I will let them know if you haven't already done so. I go to the church where Terry attended BB in Shiregreen. We were all very shocked (when his murder was first reported on here I didn't make the connection as I didn't know his surname). I also have a copy of the cd you mention. He was a lovely lad who will be missed by us all.

My husband teaches in the junior church and he told me that today that one of the girls came in crying because she didn't know about Terry's murder (one of the younger one's I think) and had seen the report in Friday's Star.

Hi wendy i will pm you.

tara

Demon006.
I cant speak for franc1987.
But if you dont want to upset terry's REAL friends- the boys at bb, and terry's college etc then i would give this a miss if i were you.
I dont know who you are but i can guess.
And it really wouldnt go down to well. Apart from the fact that terry's family will probably be there and dont you think theyve suffered enough.
This statement will in no way tarnish the name or memory of terry. As the only things tarnished are the freaks involved in this hideous crime.

wouldnt it be like rubbing their noses in it somewhat.
sorry but i have to speak my mind on this one.

Cryptic :suspect:

I think that anything 'personal' to do with friends and family of Terry Hurst might be best dealt with between individuals by PM if there are specific questions / issues being raised.

Cheers

Joe

TARA
wot gives you the right to state who terry, REAL friends are has nothing to do with you and u have no right to speak i was asking frank to speak to those who were doing this in terry,s memory so i would appreciate keep your nose out

Demon, Tara,

Please see above posting from me.

If this carries on, I close the thread.

Joe

Hi i didnt mean to make any one mad by posting this! it was just a circular email that came thru my sheffield college address. I dont know who is recording this CD or anything about them i only knew terry-lee for 2 short weeks! I suggest if you have any questions you email the person in my original post cos i was just passing on info i thought might be helpful

sorry joe!

Michael.purse@sheffcol.ac.uk

above is the contact email address of who i got the email from

everyone who is a member of sheffield college should have got a copy of this email. it wasnt directed at me personally

Thanks for the info franc1987.
my sons already emailed him to see if he can help.
If your interested theres another cd out that was made at terry's church too.
Sorry joe for getting a bit angry i did act a bit immature in replying to certain posts but under the circumstances i hope everyone on the sf will forgive me.

Tara.

Hey Tara
I am interested in the CD, in both of them, because even tho i only new terry for such short time he made a big impact on my time at his school. He used to sit with me at break times and chat and on the bus on the way home. He made me laugh and i am still shocked at whats happened! Its so unfair! There was a photo in the star of him, that looked exactly how i last new him as, so young and innocent! Its so sad!

Can you PM me the details please.

Terry Hurst was the nicest guy you could ever meet, he was friendly to everyone regardless of gender colour race or sexuality.
he loved to help and be there for people, he especially loved to joke around and make people laugh.
i remember how no matter how i was feeling the moment i saw terry i felt happy because he knew exactly what to say and do to make me smile.
i remember how he would come round to my house and spend hours making me and mum laugh. Like the last time he came round he was trying to show me and mum how he could do a head stand with on arm stretched out to the side, and he fell over and we all started laughing.
terry also loved skateboarding and we would go down to devonshire green together, one time he tried to teach me but i just fell off and we both rolled around on the grass laughing.
terry was dedicated to bb and church and we often had lengthly discussions on christianity and god, the points terry made really made me look at my life and consider changing it for the better...since i met terry i have been a lot better person and i really want to thank him for that, he was always there for me no matter how badly i treated him.
All he ever wanted was for me to be happy and i am because of him
I loved terry very much he was the Best friend i could have evr asked for and he will never be out of my mind or heart i will remember him and think of him always.
I am just glad he is at peace now and i am really sorry he wasnt at pece sooner because of me...cos i wouldnt let him go but i have done know and i hope he is peaceful and happy.
i also hope he knows that i am truely happy because of him and that i will always appreciate his friendship, you dont have to worry about me anymore terry. thank you for everything terry i love you never forget me cos i'll never forget you.

p.s. i hope they have a skate park in heaven for you cos you where so cud at skateboarding and i dont want you to give it u.

love ya TAZ

from LA POSSEE XXXXXXXXXX

I know terry from a primary school age and went to college with him at castle, he was a great friend to have. He was a good actor as in drama we did a little film there was me and terry and 2 others which terry played a good role in.
He will Sadily be missed and nether forgotton.

BIG RESPECT GOES TO TERRY!

He sounds like a really great guy and your post is a really nice tribute.

I have not heard of him before ..... Is he well known in Sheffield for skateboarding??

Just seen the other thread about Terry and now remember the news stories.

Very very sad and such a waste.

Loops.

:(

loopy lou terry was my best friend but i dont really like to talk to people about him as it may cause me trouble. all i can say is that i deeply loved him.

Terry Hurst was the nicest guy you could ever meet, he was friendly to everyone regardless of gender colour race or sexuality.
he loved to help and be there for people, he especially loved to joke around and make people laugh.
i remember how no matter how i was feeling the moment i saw terry i felt happy because he knew exactly what to say and do to make me smile.
i remember how he would come round to my house and spend hours making me and mum laugh. Like the last time he came round he was trying to show me and mum how he could do a head stand with on arm stretched out to the side, and he fell over and we all started laughing.
terry also loved skateboarding and we would go down to devonshire green together, one time he tried to teach me but i just fell off and we both rolled around on the grass laughing.
terry was dedicated to bb and church and we often had lengthly discussions on christianity and god, the points terry made really made me look at my life and consider changing it for the better...since i met terry i have been a lot better person and i really want to thank him for that, he was always there for me no matter how badly i treated him.
All he ever wanted was for me to be happy and i am because of him
I loved terry very much he was the Best friend i could have evr asked for and he will never be out of my mind or heart i will remember him and think of him always.
I am just glad he is at peace now and i am really sorry he wasnt at pece sooner because of me...cos i wouldnt let him go but i have done know and i hope he is peaceful and happy.
i also hope he knows that i am truely happy because of him and that i will always appreciate his friendship, you dont have to worry about me anymore terry. thank you for everything terry i love you never forget me cos i'll never forget you.

p.s. i hope they have a skate park in heaven for you cos you where so cud at skateboarding and i dont want you to give it u.

love ya TAZ

from LA POSSEE XXXXXXXXXX

nice....but there is another thread running on this...merge mods!!!

Did anyone go to the drum the other week where they all did a cd in rememberence to terry.-(popular music building.)
releasing cd soon i think.


Have fond memories of terry from a certain karate class where he and my other son were partners, my son got thrown about a bit lol.

RIP terry, such a short time you lived amongst us, you will never be forgotten.

the cd made, was released soon after, i still have a copy of this if anyone would like to hear it

HOw well do people remember terry? I'M his sister in law and I'm trying to find out who his last girlfriend was and whether he had any children