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NotoriousBIG
16-07-2004, 18:45
This is not an advertisement....

I recently launched my website and I just had the css checked by the people at principle.com..

I'm looking for fellow web designers, to post their best looking sites on my website...
and give me a few tips????

Check it out at: www.ryandennell.co.uk

Rich
16-07-2004, 19:11
*checks whether any Mods are on*

This aught to be in general chat really as it's not directly anything to do with chat about Sheffield :D

NotoriousBIG
16-07-2004, 19:25
the message is posted to web designers from sheffield

lucasdigital
16-07-2004, 19:50
Originally posted by NotoriousBIG
the message is posted to web designers from sheffield

Good clean site. Tiny little error spotted on the URL form, you have a "state" field that is labled email. Good luck with the up-and-coming travel.

karl101
16-07-2004, 20:14
Originally posted by NotoriousBIG
This is not an advertisement....

I recently launched my website and I just had the css checked by the people at principle.com..

I'm looking for fellow web designers, to post their best looking sites on my website...
and give me a few tips????

Check it out at: www.ryandennell.co.uk

Can't you write pages that work in a 21st Century bowser? Firefox and Mozilla are W3C compliant. Internet Explorer isn't.

lucasdigital
16-07-2004, 20:47
Originally posted by karl101
Can't you write pages that work in a 21st Century bowser? Firefox and Mozilla are W3C compliant. Internet Explorer isn't.

I love Firefox to death. Small, memory-efficient but hardly betters IE for compatibility or functionality. I'll concede that using these young upstart browsers gives you a big security-payoff.

Probably about 2% of web users enjoy the benefit of these new browsers, its just not good sense at the moment to worry too much about cross browser compatibilty.

NotoriousBIG
16-07-2004, 20:53
W3C compliant it is isn't it????

alchresearch
16-07-2004, 21:02
Originally posted by lucasdigital
I love Firefox to death. Small, memory-efficient but hardly betters IE for compatibility or functionality. I'll concede that using these young upstart browsers gives you a big security-payoff.

Probably about 2% of web users enjoy the benefit of these new browsers, its just not good sense at the moment to worry too much about cross browser compatibilty.

I think in this day and age it's very good sense to start worrying about cross browser compatability - especially if you don't want to alienate your customers and visitors.

lucasdigital
16-07-2004, 21:31
Originally posted by alchresearch
I think in this day and age it's very good sense to start worrying about cross browser compatability - especially if you don't want to alienate your customers and visitors.

Yes, of course its an ideal. If your doing a corporate website then you can invest in the extensive testing and code-tickling that this requires.

I've pulled strands of hair off my head over getting simple tables to render the way they should in Netscape, all so one visitor in fifty doesn't see gaps'n'glitches.

I hope that the new wave of browsers gain a stronger foothold. In which case I'd say spare no effort getting your web content pixel-perfect across mainstream browsers.

NotoriousBIG
16-07-2004, 21:33
So i am doing it right then????

alchresearch
16-07-2004, 21:39
Try dabbling with SQL (and open source alternatives), that's a good feather for your cap if you can offer this.

And don't be afraid to work with PHP and Java, don't just stick with the Macromedia mainstream.

karl101
16-07-2004, 21:46
Originally posted by lucasdigital
I love Firefox to death. Small, memory-efficient but hardly betters IE for compatibility or functionality. I'll concede that using these young upstart browsers gives you a big security-payoff.

Probably about 2% of web users enjoy the benefit of these new browsers, its just not good sense at the moment to worry too much about cross browser compatibilty.

IE gives me all the problems when writing pages. Especally with CSS positioning. IE is not w3c compliant, to argue otherwise is just silly. M$ always invent thier own standards.

I suppose what got me annoyed with the advertised site, is that the claim across the top that "This browser will look much better in a browser that supports web standards, but it is accessible to any browser or Internet device." when viewed in firefox.

Its not hard to write a page using CSS for layout that's w3c compliant, and displays properly in modern browsers and IE. To say that standards don't matter is just not good enough.

The claim that only 2% may be using an alternative browser may of been true in the past. But thats no excuse now. To sell web creation skills, those with the cash will require thier pages to work on a wide a range of browsers as possible (even if they don't know that, yet).

karl101
16-07-2004, 21:50
Originally posted by NotoriousBIG
So i am doing it right then????

Its a good start, it needs to work in a modern browser though.... ;-)

Al least your using Dreamweaver and not FrontPage. Which is a good thing.

NotoriousBIG
16-07-2004, 22:20
So if I want my pages to be compatable with all browsers what kind of changes should I make......

Is there any websites that anyone can recommend????

karl101
16-07-2004, 22:35
Originally posted by NotoriousBIG
So if I want my pages to be compatable with all browsers what kind of changes should I make......

Is there any websites that anyone can recommend????

www.w3c.org is good. otherwise harrass google.

http://www.sitepoint.com are OK. the books are good, but have a short life once youve learnt the stuff. I found this useful http://www.sitepoint.com/books/css1/ despite the author having a problem beard.

NotoriousBIG
16-07-2004, 22:44
he does have a beard problem.........