They advertise teaching various internal arts (tai chi, pa kua and hsing i) which I'm interested in looking at - was just wondering if anyone has ever trained with them or has any experience of them?

They advertise teaching various internal arts (tai chi, pa kua and hsing i) which I'm interested in looking at - was just wondering if anyone has ever trained with them or has any experience of them?

Wu tan? Isnt that a Rap group?

Wu tan? Isnt that a Rap group?

nope. You're thinking of the Wu Tang Clan perhaps?

I have there heard instructor is good but I had a couple of run-ins with some of them from Newcastle so im probably a little biased when it comes to good things to say about them. So I will shut up:hihi: :D :o

If it is the internal Martial Arts that you want ie hsing I or pa kua
then There is a good hsing I school in Leeds
And there is someone that is good at pa kua in Nottinghamshire but he only has a little of it.
you will find more if you go have a look at the link page on my web site for (British Council Chinese Martial Arts)

do they have a club in Sheffield now?????

They cropped up in a search on some site (chich one I can't remember!) and apparently have classes in Sheffield but claim to teach pretty much everything which makes me feel a tiny bit suss!

Edit: link is here (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=140148)

if you want to learn top class wu style tai chi then david barrow is the man

his classes are mon, tues & thurs, 7pm - 8:30pm, kingfield hall, brincliffe crescent, off psalter lane, sheffield

in my opinion he's the best tai chi teacher you'll find in northern england

he has been teaching for over 25 years

he studies with master ma jiangbao, who currently lives in rotterdam but is originally from china, is the grandmaster of the style in the world and quite incredible too - master ma visits us once a year, which is always excellent

i've never heard of wutan international and don't know of any ba gua or xing yi classes in sheff, unfortunately

I have there heard instructor is good but I had a couple of run-ins with some of them from Newcastle so im probably a little biased when it comes to good things to say about them. So I will shut up:hihi: :D :o




nah, spill the beans mate!!!

soz Pingpang can't do that wouldn’t be ethical:D :D :hihi:


They do teach a lot of styles, well every instructor in each region has a little of every style they teach that is. (That’s only my opinion mind you)

But like I say the head in the UK is v-good.

I've been doing Wu at David Barrow's class for a couple of years. David is indeed an excellent teacher but you only get about 3 minutes of his teaching a week. The rest of the time it's his senior students who seem to teach. Some are good while others not so. They are all excellent at Wu, it's the skill of teaching some lack.

I find the atmosphere at his classes stifling. It's too traditional and one dimensional (seems based largely on 'monkey see, monkey do') for my tastes.

I have experience of a couple of more tai chi teachers and their teaching style is much better and multi dimensional making the classes hugely enjoyable. Trouble is one is in Devon and the other disappeared.

I'm taking a break from Wu while I look for another class. Does anyone have experience of the class on Mondays at Goodwin Sports Centre?

what class?

That would be the Tai Chi class at Goodwin sports centre on a Monday 6:30 to 8PM as detailed here:

taichifinder.co.uk

Won't let me post links yet :mad:

Yea, its chen man ching style, and it aint that good. Unfortunately. Nice guy tho!

There are classes out towards cross pool which are yang/sun/li style and are ok.

As for xing yi in sheffield yes there is, and no I wont give any details out! :-)

Bagua? Denied! Nout in the region that I know of.

The xing yi in Leeds is fair cop too. There is also some informal xing yi in Nottingham.

If you want some Baji, you can also find that in Leeds, but im not allowed to say who where or how to apply. Invite only. But at least you know its there :D

Wutan International

Are more a mixed Chinese Martial art a little of this a little of that rather than just internal arts.


I have been wanting to try the in Nott but haven’t as yet got round to it.

if you want to learn top class wu style tai chi then david barrow is the man

his classes are mon, tues & thurs, 7pm - 8:30pm, kingfield hall, brincliffe crescent, off psalter lane, sheffield

in my opinion he's the best tai chi teacher you'll find in northern england

he has been teaching for over 25 years

he studies with master ma jiangbao, who currently lives in rotterdam but is originally from china, is the grandmaster of the style in the world and quite incredible too - master ma visits us once a year, which is always excellent

i've never heard of wutan international and don't know of any ba gua or xing yi classes in sheff, unfortunately

I'll remember that

Wutan International

Are more a mixed Chinese Martial art a little of this a little of that rather than just internal arts.


I have been wanting to try the in Nott but haven’t as yet got round to it.

I'd disagree. When I saw him down at hillsbro leisure centre, he was doing wu style, and the first thing he did to me was 'look at my medals!'

granted, his movements were very very particular, but werent exactly tai chi!
:suspect:

bigchris
why would he want to look at your medals????????

and are you still on about the Wutan International???

no he wanted me to look at his!!

and yes i am still going on about wutan :D

granted, his movements were very very particular, but werent exactly tai chi!

in what way???????

Square, flat, lacking 'oomf'. Imagine a robot doing taichi. Yea its doing the movements, but you can tell its a robot!

LOL robot LOL

That not sounding good, brings me back to when I first trained I thought I was so good till I seen a Video. God that was a long time ago lol

bigchris Do you still train???

Li and Lee are different. They do both, just like they do a bit of Sun too.

Yea I still practice, though not taichi.

what do you practice now

Just other internal arts, and have been known to lay my hand down with a bit of choy li fut

who did you train with in Choy Li Fut ????????

i trained with Sifu Ng up Newcastle fo some time.

Sifu Raymond Rand of the Yong Quan Association

is he the one from London???

how long did you do it for???

No he's the one from Wales, teaching in Bristol and Middlesex Uni.

I've known the guy for a few years now, and a thoroughly nice chap he is too.

have you trained with him long ????

Why? Even if I had, I wouldnt teach it ;-)

:huh: wasn't asking if you would teach it just how long you trained with him for.



been there did that & dont want to do it again.:hihi:

I'm a practitioner of Yi Chuan, Chen Style Tai Chi, Bagua and Kung Fu. I'd like to arrange a regular meet, maybe in the Botanical Gardens, for practitioners in Sheffield to train and push together. Any forms accepted, from simple fixed step all the way to full contact. Anyone from student to National Championship/Instructor level welcome. Having had regular meets in London for the last 6 years I've found this kind of meet to be hugely beneficial to all involved. Meets are also a great place to meet people interested in Internal arts and discuss/compare training methods and styles. Obviously no charge, the only requirement is a respectfull chivalrus attitude to martial training. Please email me if you are interested and I can start co-ordinating the meet. MischaHill84@googlemail.com

Looking foward to pushing with you,
Mischa

Hi, on the subject of Wutan, I trained with them in Nottingham for maybe a year or so back in around 2002. I enjoyed it at the time, and as my first foray into martial arts it was useful to work on my balance and some basics. Eventually I left their classes as I felt they tried to do too many things (Wing Chun, various forms of Kung Fu, something they referred to as 'Chinese Kickboxing') and as such the teaching was too dispersed across them all to provide a good grounding in any of them. Gradings also seemed to be a quesiton of turn up and pass, which caused me to question the ability of various higher graded practitioners and the quality of what I'd be learning.

I've heard they have connections to various Wushu practitioners of impressive pedigree, but my experience of them as a student was that I and a number of others I know of who trained at the same time as I did, left feeling slightly disillusioned. Most people I knew either went to kickboxing schools or Wing Chun schools, which I think relfects that it was a good 'way in', but perhaps not the best place to progress beyond that.

That said, there are clearly people on this forum who know far more than I do about the various arts Wutan teach, so I'm just giving this as an example based on my experience - nothing more.

hi Lincoln Hawk
they do like to do lots of different styles of kung fu and they do have some good wushu and san shou (Chinese kickboxing) students.
But I feel you are correct in what you posted.