ever tried walking down staniforth road towards attercliffe at night without feeling threatened go on i dare you. on every street corner there are gangs of asian youths looking at you menacingly
i am not a racist just someone who speaks the facts
i recently posted a thread on forum members views on gypsies but this was quickly pulled by the all seeing moderators
is there anyone else out there who are sick to their back teeth at not being able to speak their mind in this crazy pc society
i'll be interested to read your views that is of course if the moderators dont think ive crossed the line

and what about every other area in the city with gangs of WHITE youths on every corner, outside every line of shops, just as scary for people

funny thing is, you dont see many groups of say chinese youths on street corners?? hmmmmm
*goes off to think about that one*

5.........4.........3.........2..........1 :o not deleted yet? im shocked mind you its still early :hihi:


on a serious note i see what your saying and yes i feel the same when walking down there havnt done it in a loooooooonnnnnnnnngg time though i wouldnt dare now

hold on to you f****** hats youve started some thing now pete ,(by the way your right in what you say about stanniforth road.) though some on here will say its your imagination

when have you found yourself walking down staniforth rd
of a night..where had you been / going?

sometimes the perception of danger is greater than the danger itself

hate driving through never mind walking through

ever tried walking down staniforth road towards attercliffe at night without feeling threatened go on i dare you. on every street corner there are gangs of asian youths looking at you menacingly
i am not a racist just someone who speaks the facts
i recently posted a thread on forum members views on gypsies but this was quickly pulled by the all seeing moderators
is there anyone else out there who are sick to their back teeth at not being able to speak their mind in this crazy pc society
i'll be interested to read your views that is of course if the moderators dont think ive crossed the line

Looking at you eh? how very dare they?

So you can't have a go at gypsies like you want to ....let's have a pop at asians instead.

What is the difference between your views and those of a racist, please?

here we go get the racist stick out

Looking at you eh? how very dare they?

So you can't have a go at gypsies like you want to ....let's have a pop at asians instead.

What is the difference between your views and those of a racist, please?

too right
IS there a difference between asians and other youths behaviour towards people? or is it just your perception towards them in the present climate?

Find groups of young lads of whatever ethnicity threatening when they're lurking on street corners in the middle of the nite...

here we go get the racist stick out

So you had it all the time, I was looking for it earlier.

here we go get the racist stick out

yeah but pk nobodys actually said why theyre any worse, if indeed they are.
than your normal youths outside the local pizza place, drinking cider and abusing passers by


indeed myself was on a bus up here coming home from work and about 30 chavs got on, bottles of cider in hand heading for the whitby regatta, abusing everybody on the bus, disgusting some poor lasses on the bus getting em to suck their nipples, stuff like that.
i felt quite intimidated, indeed if you said owt youd prolly get all 30 jumping and kicking the **** out of you.

EVERYONE of em were white

too right
IS there a difference between asians and other youths behaviour towards people? or is it just your perception towards them in the present climate?

i live near stanniforth road and gangs of asians do hang around & have attacked white people one lad was set upon as he was coming home from work one chap who was fishing (oap)was hit by a stone cutting his head
so this **** does happen & yes i know the white gangs are just has bad

i live near stanniforth road and gangs of asians do hang around & have attacked white people one lad was set upon as he was coming home from work one chap who was fishing (oap)was hit by a stone cutting his head
so this **** does happen & yes i know the white gangs are just has bad

and? doesnt make em worse cos theyre asian
theyre the same as anywhere, just different ethnicity where you happen to be.

again its demonise the asians, forget blacks, AND whites do the exact same thing

anyhow farewell for now, im going for a session hope to get steam boats down at the local waffen ss club

anyhow farewell for now, im going for a session hope to get steam boats down at the local waffen ss club

dont forget yer stick
might be some asians about

:P

dont forget yer stick
might be some asians about

:P
thanks for reminding me mel nearly forgot it .:hihi:

I think I have found out where your stick is:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=138034

My husband and I who are middle aged, (not quite old!!) walk quite a lot, often round various streets, never felt intimidated by gangs of youths, but we were walking up Staniforth Road one night, and passed a gang of Asian youths outside an off licence, we walked on the road to avoid them, but when we had passed them one threw a full bottle at us, fortunately it missed, but an older Asian man, played merry hell with them and told them to apologise, but we just walked on,
What would have been the scenario, if a middle aged Asian couple were walking over Crookes, and a gang of youths had thrown a bottle at them, would that have been a racist attack.?

My husband and I who are middle aged, (not quite old!!) walk quite a lot, often round various streets, never felt intimidated by gangs of youths, but we were walking up Staniforth Road one night, and passed a gang of Asian youths outside an off licence, we walked on the road to avoid them, but when we had passed them one threw a full bottle at us, fortunately it missed, but an older Asian man, played merry hell with them and told them to apologise, but we just walked on,
What would have been the scenario, if a middle aged Asian couple were walking over Crookes, and a gang of youths had thrown a bottle at them, would that have been a racist attack.?
both could be seen as racist
but then it might just be "when idiots attack"
unless they shout racist abuse i dont think it can be classed as racist just cos it was asian on white, or white on black whatever, it mightve been an asian couple walking past and got it, couldve just been the wrong place at the wrong time.
then again im only talking couldves, who knows, without being in an idiots head

I think I have found out where your stick is:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=138034
It's been deleted mate :rolleyes:

It's been deleted mate :rolleyes:


you sure ive just posted on it?

you sure ive just posted on it?
When you click on the link given, it says I do not have permission to view it...


:suspect: Unless I'm on special 'watch' :hihi:

melthebell, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

its gone

:P

ever tried walking down staniforth road towards attercliffe at night without feeling threatened go on i dare you. on every street corner there are gangs of asian youths looking at you menacingly
i am not a racist just someone who speaks the facts
i recently posted a thread on forum members views on gypsies but this was quickly pulled by the all seeing moderators
is there anyone else out there who are sick to their back teeth at not being able to speak their mind in this crazy pc society
i'll be interested to read your views that is of course if the moderators dont think ive crossed the line

As we often say, if you can back things up with facts and things don't turn in to a racist rant or a diatribe then we're cool.

If you DO overstep the line, then we will pull it.

We do live in an equal opportunity country; I've been looked at menacingly by youths of all colours and creeds. :)

yep its been deleted! ohh well :roll:

I've been looked at menacingly by youth sof all coulrs and creeds. :)

OI! get off my keyboard joe, mine does that :P

*looks lovingly at his other 4 keyboards*

yep its been deleted! ohh well :roll:

It has - I think that the OP may have asked for it to be retitled and stuff, so it's possibly away for fixing.

isnt the point here that the problem isnt particularly with asian youths but simple with all rowdy teenagers?

isnt the point here that the problem isnt particularly with asian youths but simple with all rowdy teenagers?

Quite likley, but people's fears down't always match up with what they have to be scared of, if that makes sense.

When my husband worked in fire service outside south yorkshire, they had a woman who's job it was to encourage the employee's to be friendly towards ehnic minorites. They all had to go on a course to teach them all about other cultures. Any way it was all very politaically correct, and the woman herself was very pretentious and refused to contemplate any argument that sometimes people from ethnic minorities could be bad people just like any other.

Imagine the amusement of all those who had had to endure her tedious study day when her car broke down in the middle of an asian only area of Bradford, and some scary asian men came to tell her she was in a no go area, she had no right being there and shoved her car til it was outside 'their' zone.

When my husband worked in fire service outside south yorkshire, they had a woman who's job it was to encourage the employee's to be friendly towards ehnic minorites. They all had to go on a course to teach them all about other cultures. Any way it was all very politaically correct, and the woman herself was very pretentious and refused to contemplate any argument that sometimes people from ethnic minorities could be bad people just like any other.

Imagine the amusement of all those who had had to endure her tedious study day when her car broke down in the middle of an asian only area of Bradford, and some scary asian men came to tell her she was in a no go area, she had no right being there and shoved her car til it was outside 'their' zone.

Of course they can be bad - there's bad eggs in every community, irrespective of creed or colour.

The reverse is also true; the vast majority of people in most communities are law abiding.

What this means is that it's crucial to deal with crime and harassment whether caused by miscreants from any community - there shouldn't be slacking off because of fear of offending a particular community, or over-enthusiasm towards 'clamping down' based on any form of discrimination.

If you are in an area with a large number of people from a certain ethnic background, then it makes sense for the bad 'uns on the street corner to be from the same background - we don't bus muggers around the city yet.

My husband and I who are middle aged, (not quite old!!) walk quite a lot, often round various streets, never felt intimidated by gangs of youths, but we were walking up Staniforth Road one night, and passed a gang of Asian youths outside an off licence, we walked on the road to avoid them, but when we had passed them one threw a full bottle at us, fortunately it missed, but an older Asian man, played merry hell with them and told them to apologise, but we just walked on,
What would have been the scenario, if a middle aged Asian couple were walking over Crookes, and a gang of youths had thrown a bottle at them, would that have been a racist attack.?

Thats some walk! Crookes to Staniforth Road! Don't you feel safer walking around S10?

we don't bus muggers around the city yet.

ssshhh dont let "new" labour hear you joe, itll be their next new policy

My point is, that many people, alot of them seem to post on here, will refuse to believe that those from asian communities do anything themselves that alienates them from others, that their own behaviour can contribute to the prejudice that they experience. It's this political correctness that infuriates and also discourages proper debate about the massive crisis we are facing as a nation.

When my husband worked in fire service outside south yorkshire, they had a woman who's job it was to encourage the employee's to be friendly towards ehnic minorites. They all had to go on a course to teach them all about other cultures. Any way it was all very politaically correct, and the woman herself was very pretentious and refused to contemplate any argument that sometimes people from ethnic minorities could be bad people just like any other.

Imagine the amusement of all those who had had to endure her tedious study day when her car broke down in the middle of an asian only area of Bradford, and some scary asian men came to tell her she was in a no go area, she had no right being there and shoved her car til it was outside 'their' zone.

Whilst they all stood around like the friendly firemen they were watching this happen to her? No, surely not. I wonder sometimes how these stories get about?

I hate all this racist s**t!!!

Some people who think theyre being good about asains etc just make all this racist stuff worse. Don't you realise this yet???

If an asian lad had made a post saying he feels threatened by gangs of white lads on this certain road...whats the problem with that?? I don't see one :confused:

Just because people give descriptions clear..doesn't mean to say they are racist..for gods sake!!!

My point is, that many people, alot of them seem to post on here, will refuse to believe that those from asian communities do anything themselves that alienates them from others, that their own behaviour can contribute to the prejudice that they experience. It's this political correctness that infuriates and also discourages proper debate about the massive crisis we are facing as a nation.

The problems go back alot further then you might think. Whilst today may be a PC society, back in the day when many of the asians came here to work (we are talking some 40/50 years ago), things were not so PC. They would be racially abused, spat and sworn at and of course the days of 'paki bashing', were in full swing. Alot of the time, those who came to work were too afraid to stand up for themselves and would in the circumstances choose to back-down because they were few in number. This is one of the reasons many of them chose to live close to one-another. Of course, in many areas this is still the case, where the extended families of those who came here also choose to live nearby their families. I think with the older generation as they are now, there is still a sense of mistrust. This can filter down to the younger generation, although I feel given time even that will fade out.

Lets not be under any illusion that it was an easy ride for them coming here and working. I know many of them have worked very hard, and deservedly achieved something. I think ethnic minorities in Britain have a bigger and better role to play overall. Nobody likes freeloaders, but as with many of the immigrants now (who do infact have better conditions), those who came here 45/50 years ago did many of the jobs nobody else wanted to.

Whilst they all stood around like the friendly firemen they were watching this happen to her? No, surely not. I wonder sometimes how these stories get about?


I think you have misunderstood, the woman in question was driving alone through an asian part of Bradford. Or maybe you are implying the story isn't true.Well be assured, it is, she recounted it herself and I see no reason to disbelieve her.

I hate all this racist s**t!!!

Some people who think theyre being good about asains etc just make all this racist stuff worse. Don't you realise this yet???

If an asian lad had made a post saying he feels threatened by gangs of white lads on this certain road...whats the problem with that?? I don't see one :confused:

Just because people give descriptions clear..doesn't mean to say they are racist..for gods sake!!!

lol.. you sure about that? I think the reponse from the far right would have been more along the lines of 'well if you don't like it here go back to where you come from'. :rolleyes:

I think you have misunderstood, the woman in question was driving alone through an asian part of Bradford. Or maybe you are implying the story isn't true.Well be assured, it is, she recounted it herself and I see no reason to disbelieve her.

So, I take it she left her job then?

These scary asians pushed her car out of the no go zone.. they were helping her then?

I hate all this racist s**t!!!

Some people who think theyre being good about asains etc just make all this racist stuff worse. Don't you realise this yet???

If an asian lad had made a post saying he feels threatened by gangs of white lads on this certain road...whats the problem with that?? I don't see one :confused:

Just because people give descriptions clear..doesn't mean to say they are racist..for gods sake!!!

its not the post its the way they create the post
some people seem hellbent on making out blacks or asians to be devils especially in the current climate convieniently forgetting theres twice / 3 times more whites doing the exact same thing.

yes you walk down staniforth road you might get a bottle thrown at you, walk down ANYWHERE else you might get a bottle thrown at you by white youths, walk down pitsmoor you might get a bottle thrown at you by black youths.

These scary asians pushed her car out of the no go zone.. they were helping her then?

Thats what I was thinking Eddie. It would have been different if they had mugged her and set her car on fire. Instead, they may have informed her it was unsafe to be there as a female on her own at night, and pushed her car somewhere safer. Thats what makes it sound like nonsense to me, and if she was that scared of these 'scary asians', I trust she could have called the Police.

I am not doubting she may have broken down in a dubious kind of area, but the outcome seems one more of helping her.

No, it wasn't done in a friendly "let me help you out of here love" kind of way. It was done in (cos if they were feeling friendly maybe they could have invited her in for a cup of tea while she waited fo the RAC) It was done in a kind of "what the **** do you think you're doing in our area, **** off out of it" way.

I for one wouldn't feel it was very helpful if I broke down alone in my car anda group of men surrounde me and started shoving and bouncing me along, I'd be pretty terrified, as I understand this woman was.

No, it wasn't done in a friendly "let me help you out of here love" kind of way. It was done in (cos if they were feeling friendly maybe they could have invited her in for a cup of tea while she waited fo the RAC) It was done in a kind of "what the **** do you think you're doing in our area, **** off out of it" way.

I for one wouldn't feel it was very helpful if I broke down alone in my car anda group of men surrounde me and started shoving and bouncing me along, I'd be pretty terrified, as I understand this woman was.
and youd feel the same if they were white prolly, or even if they did the same and were female

Also, just to add, these are just the sorts of attitudes that I was referring to in my orgional post. The absolute refusal to believe that a group of asian men would behave in such a way. The inference that anyone who speaks up to say that they do is a liar, and they should be shouted down.

Lets get one thing striaght, its not just groups of Asians who are scary.


Groups of young women on a Hen night can be very intimidating, especially when waiting for the act (the act was Steve 'Sausage' Smith) to start. Being the lone male amongst these partys is scary

its not the post its the way they create the post
some people seem hellbent on making out blacks or asians to be devils especially in the current climate convieniently forgetting theres twice / 3 times more whites doing the exact same thing.

yes you walk down staniforth road you might get a bottle thrown at you, walk down ANYWHERE else you might get a bottle thrown at you by white youths, walk down pitsmoor you might get a bottle thrown at you by black youths.

Yep, very true. I had a gang of youths (around say 15/16) swearing and shouting when I went stopped at the cashpoint up on Manor.

There were some white and mixed race youths. Sadly that is the nature of SOME youths. However, on the other hand I also know youths of similar age who instead of walking the street at 11pm, have part time jobs through their summer holidays. Its no more intimidating then seeing groups of grown men boozed up in town swearing and shouting.

Also, just to add, these are just the sorts of attitudes that I was referring to in my orgional post. The absolute refusal to believe that a group of asian men would behave in such a way. The inference that anyone who speaks up to say that they do is a liar, and they should be shouted down.

NOBODY on this thread has said that in any form
weve stated its down to the type of thread, why single out asians when its ALL types of people that can be scary when in groups, SOME more so than asians.
seems to me its just like the red top newspapaers out to create devils out of 1 race and its clearly working

No, it wasn't done in a friendly "let me help you out of here love" kind of way. It was done in (cos if they were feeling friendly maybe they could have invited her in for a cup of tea while she waited fo the RAC) It was done in a kind of "what the **** do you think you're doing in our area, **** off out of it" way.

I for one wouldn't feel it was very helpful if I broke down alone in my car anda group of men surrounde me and started shoving and bouncing me along, I'd be pretty terrified, as I understand this woman was.

Maybe thats her perception, it doesn't mean it was right. Would you invite somebody into your house for a cup of tea if they had broken down?

Now, unless she spoke to you directly about it and told you it was done in that way, the rest is speculation. Thing is, I feel you are getting this information from the woman 'second hand'.

its not the post its the way they create the post
some people seem hellbent on making out blacks or asians to be devils especially in the current climate convieniently forgetting theres twice / 3 times more whites doing the exact same thing.

yes you walk down staniforth road you might get a bottle thrown at you, walk down ANYWHERE else you might get a bottle thrown at you by white youths, walk down pitsmoor you might get a bottle thrown at you by black youths.

Yeah some people do but not all..I don't really see anything wrong with what he has said...

Where he has said gangs of asians..I see it as a description.

I'm sure if he walked down a road full of white gangs and felt threatened he would also start a thread about that..

Lets get one thing striaght, its not just groups of Asians who are scary.


Groups of young women on a Hen night can be very intimidating, especially when waiting for the act (the act was Steve 'Sausage' Smith) to start. Being the lone male amongst these partys is scary


No one said it was, but I was making the point (as this is what the thread is about)about no go area's, and the attitudes of people who refuse to believe this is happening.

If anyone wishes to start athread about intimmidating white youths or hen parties I'll probably post a little story on those threads too as I have experience of those situations (as the intimidator in the case of the latter!)

Maybe thats her perception, it doesn't mean it was right. Would you invite somebody into your house for a cup of tea if they had broken down?

Now, unless she spoke to you directly about it and told you it was done in that way, the rest is speculation. Thing is, I feel you are getting this information from the woman 'second hand'.
Blinkered.

Maybe thats her perception, it doesn't mean it was right. Would you invite somebody into your house for a cup of tea if they had broken down?

Now, unless she spoke to you directly about it and told you it was done in that way, the rest is speculation. Thing is, I feel you are getting this information from the woman 'second hand'.

Why is it so hard to believe this happened?

NOBODY on this thread has said that in any form
weve stated its down to the type of thread, why single out asians when its ALL types of people that can be scary when in groups, SOME more so than asians.
seems to me its just like the red top newspapaers out to create devils out of 1 race and its clearly working

Because people post about there particular experiences. I live near Nether Edge and Sharrow and have to cycle through there regularly, so I've had similar experiences to that of the person who started the thread, and can relate to it.

As I've said if someone starts a thread about intimidating white men I'll contribute to that too, but as a rule thats not a problem for me, perhaps if I lived in a different area, or frequented different places it would be.

Yeah some people do but not all..I don't really see anything wrong with what he has said...

Where he has said gangs of asians..I see it as a description.

I'm sure if he walked down a road full of white gangs and felt threatened he would also start a thread about that..

yeah but would you start the thread
"i was walking down the wybourne and came across a group of scary looking white youths"
youd prolly just say youths

the asian tag was added on to accenuate the evilness
dont you think we might know or think theyd be asian being in darnall?
and white in wybourne?

not always i know but they are sort of ghettos

yeah but would you start the thread
"i was walking down the wybourne and came across a group of scary looking white youths"
youd prolly just say youths

the asian tag was added on to accenuate the evilness
dont you think we might know or think theyd be asian being in darnall?
and white in wybourne?

not always i know but they are sort of ghettos
If the forum was limited to purely local folk it wouldn't need illustrating, but as there's members from foreign fields such as Australia, Canada & Rovvrem

they might no know where are ghetto's & where aren't.

I reckon ;) :)

yeah but would you start the thread
"i was walking down the wybourne and came across a group of scary looking white youths"
youd prolly just say youths

the asian tag was added on to accenuate the evilness
dont you think we might know or think theyd be asian being in darnall?
and white in wybourne?

not always i know but they are sort of ghettos

It was a discription..I don't think it was to accenuate the evilness at all...

If I wanted to describe them properly then yes I would put white youths or gangs of white lads...

If the forum was limited to purely local folk it wouldn't need illustrating, but as there's members from foreign fields such as Australia, Canada & Rovvrem

they might no know where are ghetto's & where aren't.

I reckon ;) :)

well we could have a sticky thread

manor / wybourne - car thieves, white
pitsmoor - drugs, black
darnall - wouldbe terrorists, asians
etc

and put little red warning signs?
maybe population sizes?

no?







:P

It was a discription..I don't think it was to accenuate the evilness at all...

If I wanted to describe them properly then yes I would put white youths or gangs of white lads...

thats it its all down to perception and unfortunately with things as they are today, i do think thats why the words asian and muslim gets thrown about willy nilly.
the papers do it, the tv do it, the general public do it ALL OBSESSED with it

but then thats my opinion :P

Blinkered.

Its not blinkered at all. Its believing what you want to believe. You haven't spoken to this woman first hand, therefore you idea of what she felt is purely speculation. If she was that scared, an lets face it, they WERE pushing her car why didn't she call the Police?

Thats because its usually a load of crap. To be fair, I would be a little apprehensive about a group of people unknown to me approaching at night if I had broken down, but it was here perception that they were scary, and therefore anything that followed she may have thought of as party to that.

They didn't beat her, rape her, stab her or molest her. They didn't damage her property, infact they moved her on to perhaps more 'safety'. How far did they push her out of 'their zone', they must have been REALLY territorial or anal to do that :rolleyes:

Once again, I will ask - did you speak to her directly or were you in the pub when you were told of it? The reason I ask is simple, as second or third hand 'facts' have a tendancy to somehow get distorted.

Why is it so hard to believe this happened?

Well, its because the information is not first hand. Also there is speculation on what the woman in question felt. As I said, that being the case she should have called the Police. Also, I don't believe the woman in question spoke directly to the poster, therefore the information may well be distorted. In that light, and in this case if what she said were true, I would expect her to relinquish her role as clearly her beliefs have been compromised.

At least, thats whats I would say in court. :D

Its not blinkered at all. Its believing what you want to believe. You haven't spoken to this woman first hand, therefore you idea of what she felt is purely speculation. If she was that scared, an lets face it, they WERE pushing her car why didn't she call the Police?

Thats because its usually a load of crap. To be fair, I would be a little apprehensive about a group of people unknown to me approaching at night if I had broken down, but it was here perception that they were scary, and therefore anything that followed she may have thought of as party to that.

They didn't beat her, rape her, stab her or molest her. They didn't damage her property, infact they moved her on to perhaps more 'safety'. How far did they push her out of 'their zone', they must have been REALLY territorial or anal to do that :rolleyes:

Once again, I will ask - did you speak to her directly or were you in the pub when you were told of it? The reason I ask is simple, as second or third hand 'facts' have a tendancy to somehow get distorted.


Well if we're talking about speculation, why do you believe she didn't call the police (she did, they arrived about fifteen minutes after the start of the whole ordeal when the culprits were long gone).

Yes the facts are second hand, they were told by the woman who had this terrible experience to my husband, who told it to me. I have no reason to believe either of them would lie about this or any other issue.

The reason you are blinkered is because you refuse to believe that these things are happening in todays society, when itis a well documented fact that they are.

I'm leaving this thread now, because as anticipated it is being replied to by politically correct fools who just refuse to see what is going on under their own noses, and instead try to shut the rest of us up who see the problems, by branding us racists and liars if we attempt to discuss them.

HAHA
for one i am very anti pc, i just am antiracist
and for 2, there aint nothing going on thats not being blown out of all proportion to nothing but cause a bigger divide between cultures than we already have.
people should be trying to heal rifts to disolve threats not create and make em bigger, im afraid doing things like that plays right into the hands of the far right who relish these problems.

Well if we're talking about speculation, why do you believe she didn't call the police (she did, they arrived about fifteen minutes after the start of the whole ordeal when the culprits were long gone).

Yes the facts are second hand, they were told by the woman who had this terrible experience to my husband, who told it to me. I have no reason to believe either of them would lie about this or any other issue.

The reason you are blinkered is because you refuse to believe that these things are happening in todays society, when itis a well documented fact that they are.

I'm leaving this thread now, because as anticipated it is being replied to by politically correct fools who just refuse to see what is going on under their own noses, and instead try to shut the rest of us up who see the problems, by branding us racists and liars if we attempt to discuss them.

My hubby drives supertram, he says the most trouble they get are from the white thugs, aged about 14 to 18 if they cant get at the driver they will kick the door's and try and wreck the tram:loopy: the ones who try it on (fares) are the Somalis, so i think its a pretty general thing today:roll:

Looking at you eh? how very dare they?

So you can't have a go at gypsies like you want to ....let's have a pop at asians instead.

What is the difference between your views and those of a racist, please?dont think the phrase " asian youths looking menacingly at you " warrants the racist tag,hes just stating the obvious,if he is a white kid walking down staniforth road,then of course he will feel that he is in danger,christ,its full of young asians and he would stand out like a sore thumb,try it,ive done it myself,believe me,it makes you feel edgy.i remember staniforth road in the 60,s,it was a great place,unfortunatly its gone the way of page hall,pitsmoor,firvale,people try to regenerate and build up the areas but i think they are throwing good money after bad, after all ,these were very prominant areas at one time,but have now degenerated due to the type of landlords and persons in the area.

do you think thats racist as well?,just because i tell it the way it is,or do you wish me to lie and say its a paradise,crime free,and multicultural policies at there best ? life is hard my friend,and sometimes,so is the truth........

but just to keep it fare and square i suppose a pakistani or ugandan or other black walking down the main roud to hackenthorpe through the manor and wybourn could possibly have written the same post and felt just as uneasy

Mod note: Can everyone stick to facts and the stated opinions of other forummers, rather than just making wild generalisations and assumptions when referring to others please? Making assumptions and inferring things that were never even referred to just causes offence where none is necessary.

Mod note: Can everyone stick to facts .........I

The facts?

That Asians should be shipped back to where they came from.
Well thats Dronfield for me then

And we are supposed to live in a tolerant multicultural society.......

dont think the phrase " asian youths looking menacingly at you " warrants the racist tag,hes just stating the obvious,if he is a white kid walking down staniforth road,then of course he will feel that he is in danger,christ,its full of young asians and he would stand out like a sore thumb,try it,ive done it myself,believe me,it makes you feel edgy.i remember staniforth road in the 60,s,it was a great place,unfortunatly its gone the way of page hall,pitsmoor,firvale,people try to regenerate and build up the areas but i think they are throwing good money after bad, after all ,these were very prominant areas at one time,but have now degenerated due to the type of landlords and persons in the area.

do you think thats racist as well?,just because i tell it the way it is,or do you wish me to lie and say its a paradise,crime free,and multicultural policies at there best ? life is hard my friend,and sometimes,so is the truth........

but just to keep it fare and square i suppose a pakistani or ugandan or other black walking down the main roud to hackenthorpe through the manor and wybourn could possibly have written the same post and felt just as uneasy

and places like the wybourne, manor and other "white" areas arent in bad shape? due to the type of people living there? its not a race thing, thats a general type of person thing

^^^ What he said. :)

I've never lived in an asian/black majority area but I lived on the Manor for a year and I would feel just as edgy walking down to Manor Park from where I lived on Fitzhubert than if I was walking up Spital Hill or through certain areas of Darnall.

A intimidating scumbag is the same animal no matter what colour or creed they are. I don't see them as bad through their colour, it's the way they act that defines them.

My hubby says the worst people for causing trouble, and threatening behaviour are from Gleadless Townend and Birley, two places which are supposed to be "good places" to live mmmm

and places like the wybourne, manor and other "white" areas arent in bad shape? due to the type of people living there? its not a race thing, thats a general type of person thing
exactly,glad you spotted that,but i still ,even though today the manor wybourn etc has immigrants living there if you arnt a known face passing through,you will get trouble,i was born there, if youre not known,you will get a pull same as every estate in sheffield,or every pub you have never been in on an estate, in northern ireland when the troops were out there people who knew woe ever was a stranger in the area,were known as dickers,its the same here,youre a stranger walking through an estate ,some one will clock you as not bieng local,black,brown.white or green, every one passing through will have been checked out a couple of times

ever tried walking down staniforth road towards attercliffe at night without feeling threatened go on i dare you. on every street corner there are gangs of asian youths looking at you menacingly
i am not a racist just someone who speaks the facts
i recently posted a thread on forum members views on gypsies but this was quickly pulled by the all seeing moderators
is there anyone else out there who are sick to their back teeth at not being able to speak their mind in this crazy pc society
i'll be interested to read your views that is of course if the moderators dont think ive crossed the line

Ur not racist? ur damn pathetic mate!... if that gang was maybe non asain ... say WHITE PINK RED watever im sure you would of not started this topic, and im sorry if you say ur not racist then u need to re-look at the way u come across to people from how u say things!

It has - I think that the OP may have asked for it to be retitled and stuff, so it's possibly away for fixing.
you mean " fixing " as in the " do you think the forum is changing " thread? you know,it just got removed,no one was kicking off,it was a peacefull thread,yet it got pulled.why ? come from the shadows joe, we arnt children, we need to know why we are censored so much,why was the thread removed ? it did not need pruning,unless you mean it needed doctoring,to suit...........people are taking notice joe, they realise things arnt as hunky dorry as you say they are,their human rifght to free speech is bieng eradicated........................................ ....................and the fools on the hill,are starting to sit up and take notice

It has - I think that the OP may have asked for it to be retitled and stuff, so it's possibly away for fixing.
you mean " fixing " as in the " do you think the forum is changing " thread? you know,it just got removed,no one was kicking off,it was a peacefull thread,yet it got pulled.why ? come from the shadows joe, we arnt children, we need to know why we are censored so much,why was the thread removed ? it did not need pruning,unless you mean it needed doctoring,to suit...........people are taking notice joe, they realise things arnt as hunky dorry as you say they are,their human right to free speech are bieng eradicated........................................ ....................and the fools on the hill,are starting to sit up and take notice

exactly,glad you spotted that,but i still ,even though today the manor wybourn etc has immigrants living there if you arnt a known face passing through,you will get trouble,i was born there, if youre not known,you will get a pull same as every estate in sheffield,or every pub you have never been in on an estate, in northern ireland when the troops were out there people who knew woe ever was a stranger in the area,were known as dickers,its the same here,youre a stranger walking through an estate ,some one will clock you as not bieng local,black,brown.white or green, every one passing through will have been checked out a couple of times


Get in the real world and don't watch so many American teen gang movies.

Get in the real world and don't watch so many American teen gang movies.i never watch american crap gang movies thanx

I live in Sharrow Vale. Im a white man and i look a little younger than my years "about 22". You could say that im in the minority in Sharrow. Gangs of "Asian youths" stand below the area where i live until all times of night. They have never made me nor do i feel threatened by them at all. To tell you the truth "though this will ruin their street cred" they are quite nice.

However, my parents live in a predominantly white area and one night whilst arriving at my parents i was harrassed by a gang of white teens and threatened with violent behaviour.

Go figure.

MelletheBelle, I think you're cool.

I live in Sharrow Vale. Im a white man and i look a little younger than my years "about 22". You could say that im in the minority in Sharrow. Gangs of "Asian youths" stand below the area where i live until all times of night. They have never made me nor do i feel threatened by them at all. To tell you the truth "though this will ruin their street cred" they are quite nice.

Yay! Sharrow quite nice! I raise a glass to that! :thumbsup:

Hi all,

I've removed a couple of posts that had basically degenerated in to name calling - Medusa asked people to keep it civil and I'm just re-iterating that.

Can we please manage to do that?

Thanks,

Joe

Any large group of youths can be intimidating - I believe the OP was describing one particular group the way you'd say they were base ball cap wearing neds, skin heads blady blah.

HTH.

MelletheBelle, I think you're cool.
:P

no le in melle or or second e in belle thanks

:P

no le in melle or or second e in belle thanks


Sorry Melthebell im a wee bit :loopy:

ever tried walking down staniforth road towards attercliffe at night without feeling threatened go on i dare you. on every street corner there are gangs of asian youths looking at you menacingly
i am not a racist just someone who speaks the facts
i recently posted a thread on forum members views on gypsies but this was quickly pulled by the all seeing moderators
is there anyone else out there who are sick to their back teeth at not being able to speak their mind in this crazy pc society
i'll be interested to read your views that is of course if the moderators dont think ive crossed the line
Hello PETE.
We live on Darnall, just off staniforth road, we can not/dare not go out after a certain time every night, A few years ago, 2 elderly neighbours had there handbags snatched by Asian youths in a car in broad daylight , one was dragged along as she would not let her handbag go.The police have told us all on this road not to open our doors after 7pm. I have learned by living on Darnall, that what ever you see you foreget you have ever seen as the police just do not want to know anything. We used to traffic wardens and police on Darnall, but now we never see anyone.

Hello PETE.
We live on Darnall, just off staniforth road, we can not/dare not go out after a certain time every night, A few years ago, 2 elderly neighbours had there handbags snatched by Asian youths in a car in broad daylight , one was dragged along as she would not let her handbag go.The police have told us all on this road not to open our doors after 7pm. I have learned by living on Darnall, that what ever you see you foreget you have ever seen as the police just do not want to know anything. We used to traffic wardens and police on Darnall, but now we never see anyone.
Its pretty much the same on firvale and pagehall. The people who dont live in these areas are very quick to pass comment on the comments of folk who do.:mad:

It's pretty depressing to read this thread and see how it seems to have been hijacked by people on both sides of fence.

The first post mentioned the youths as being asian....so what? In my opinion some people have seen fit to play "devils advocate" to ridiculous extremes - pointing out the fact that there are menacing people of all creeds and colours. Well, of course there are, but this thread identifies a specific road as a potential trouble spot (in their opinion of course). There is NO NEED to point out the obvious that white kids or whoever else can also be a threat. The thread isn't about that. It doesnt require stories to counter balance "youths on Staniforth Road". Next time we have a robbery story involving a drug addict, perhaps we might all post stories about robberies involving middle aged businessmen. Then again...what's the point?

I also find it pretty depressing that it is somehow "against the rules" or stirring up hatred by identifying an individual, or group of individuals by their colour, amongst other things.

Perhaps I'm overestimating the intelligence of the populace to take it for granted that crimes are commited by all creeds and colours. Personally though, I find the need to counter balance every argument involving a minority a little tiresome.

It's pretty depressing to read this thread and see how it seems to have been hijacked by people on both sides of fence.

The first post mentioned the youths as being asian....so what? In my opinion some people have seen fit to play "devils advocate" to ridiculous extremes - pointing out the fact that there are menacing people of all creeds and colours. Well, of course there are, but this thread identifies a specific road as a potential trouble spot (in their opinion of course). There is NO NEED to point out the obvious that white kids or whoever else can also be a threat. The thread isn't about that. It doesnt require stories to counter balance "youths on Staniforth Road". Next time we have a robbery story involving a drug addict, perhaps we might all post stories about robberies involving middle aged businessmen. Then again...what's the point?

I also find it pretty depressing that it is somehow "against the rules" or stirring up hatred by identifying an individual, or group of individuals by their colour, amongst other things.

Perhaps I'm overestimating the intelligence of the populace to take it for granted that crimes are commited by all creeds and colours. Personally though, I find the need to counter balance every argument involving a minority a little tiresome.

Well put Leviathan - Too many people don't want things to get discussed so turn it into an argument which was never there in the first place - or simply cannot read something and not interpret it in a hyper-pc manner.

These kind of fools will continue to fiddle while Rome burns, as they will never be able to discuss this kind of issue sensibly and without bringing racism into it. The PC brigade are making the world worse as people are now scared to confront these issues as they will be branded by the Your Not PC iron.

Sad if you ask me.

Well put Leviathan - Too many people don't want things to get discussed so turn it into an argument which was never there in the first place - or simply cannot read something and not interpret it in a hyper-pc manner.

These kind of fools will continue to fiddle while Rome burns, as they will never be able to discuss this kind of issue sensibly and without bringing racism into it. The PC brigade are making the world worse as people are now scared to confront these issues as they will be branded by the Your Not PC iron.

Sad if you ask me.
What is sad is you branding as 'fools' those who express an opinion contrary to your own, and making sweeping generalizations about 'the PC brigade'. Hardly conducive to the sensible discussion you apparently want.

Its pretty much the same on firvale and pagehall. The people who dont live in these areas are very quick to pass comment on the comments of folk who do.:mad:

i lived in darnall and pitsmoor for 8 years each

It's pretty depressing to read this thread and see how it seems to have been hijacked by people on both sides of fence.

The first post mentioned the youths as being asian....so what? In my opinion some people have seen fit to play "devils advocate" to ridiculous extremes - pointing out the fact that there are menacing people of all creeds and colours. Well, of course there are, but this thread identifies a specific road as a potential trouble spot (in their opinion of course). There is NO NEED to point out the obvious that white kids or whoever else can also be a threat. The thread isn't about that. It doesnt require stories to counter balance "youths on Staniforth Road". Next time we have a robbery story involving a drug addict, perhaps we might all post stories about robberies involving middle aged businessmen. Then again...what's the point?

I also find it pretty depressing that it is somehow "against the rules" or stirring up hatred by identifying an individual, or group of individuals by their colour, amongst other things.

Perhaps I'm overestimating the intelligence of the populace to take it for granted that crimes are commited by all creeds and colours. Personally though, I find the need to counter balance every argument involving a minority a little tiresome.

and cant you see where some of us are coming from, some people do that yes, ok, some people deliberately use the word asian to turn the race into devils in the current climate and inflame the situation. to cause divisions and more hatred, which in turn can lead to yet more violence on both sides, is that the kind of debate you want? its about thinking, trying to find ways to combat the current thinking on both sides one of the reasons why young asians get sucked into violence and things like extremism is they feel marginalised by the uk and are distrusted by "white" people which then grows and grows

by the way im VERY anti pc, im just anti racist and hate the way the words muslim and asian get thrown about these days

These kind of fools will continue to fiddle while Rome burns, as they will never be able to discuss this kind of issue sensibly and without bringing racism into it. The PC brigade are making the world worse as people are now scared to confront these issues as they will be branded by the Your Not PC iron.

Sad if you ask me.

Ad hominem argument if you ask me.

The point of the OP as he admits in the first thread was to present a negative image of non-whites (asians or gypsies) to promote what appears to be a racist viewpoint.

by the way im VERY anti pc, im just anti racist

Same here.

and cant you see where some of us are coming from,

I can see where you are coming from in the sense of attempting to put some perspective on the issue raised in the first post.

I think though that attempting to do this constantly, and in a blanket fashion, whenever the word "asian" is used as a descriptive term, is patronising. It becomes the expected response WHENEVER the term is used. Ironically, I suspect that over doing this ensures that those that SHOULD listen, actually switch off instead.

If the first post had been making a general comment about crime being commited by people being of a certain colour, and using this as a brush to tar all asians with, then obviously I would have less sympathy for the generalisation. However, I view the post as attempting to highlight a specific problem in a specific place - and as such I see nothing wrong with describing people by race, age, or other terms.

re:-
and when somebody posts im not racist........theres always a but
also theres the bit he admits to posting about gypsies which got pulled, which even tho i cant now view it i imagine its not putting the gypsies in a flattering light.
and so i hold this thread in the same light too, he is a racist, who cant face the facts