Why is it that you can go on a lovely day out to Bridlington, have a good journey there, forget all your troubles, sit on the beach, walk round the shops,eat fish and chips sat on the harbour wall come all the way back to Junction 35 / M1...........
and less than a minute later as you go down hill towards Chapletown the potholes / craters in the road let you know your back as your teeth chatter, your fish and chips try to escape from your body and the kids want to know why the rides at Brid arn't as good............
:(

You noticed then?:)

Worst city for pot holes in the uk.

They did some work on what must be one of the worst roads in Sheffield, Ranmoor Cliffe Road. Two men with a wheelbarrow came along and filled in some of the worst potholes. I think it's disgraceful, and a bit of a pisstake really, seeing as locals have been campaing for ages to get the road resurfaced. It's no better now, cause there's lumps where the holes have been filled in, instead of just holes.

I've seen lots of yellow spray paint around some of the worst holes near me, and i'm wondering if they're gonna do the same to those. I heard that the council was asking for some money from the government to sort out our roads. Is this it?

It's also annoying when I go over hillsborough way, and they have nice newly surfaced roads, which were in a better state than most anyway.

It is completely pointless putting little bits of tarmac in potholes, as soon as we get any rain the new tar just crumbles up and washes away anyway! There is a pothole outside my house and the council have filled it twice this year alone!

I think Sheffield City Council should save money and instead of buying speed humps just leave the roads as they are. :rant:

It's annoying because cars will suffer wear and tear quicker in Sheffield than other places.

Every time I drive visiting relatives through Sheffield they always comment about the roads. Roads which I've pretty much got used to now, but to them seem like 3rd world roads.

... People say "your" when they mean "you are" ?

I don't think a person's spelling/grammar ability is really any reason to add to a thread, Ken. Not everyone is perfect.

It's annoying because cars will suffer wear and tear quicker in Sheffield than other places.

Someone told me that Buses in Sheffield have a life of something like a third of that in other place. Although with the age of some of the busses which they still use, I'm not sure I believe it.

I don't think a person's spelling/grammar ability is really any reason to add to a thread, Ken. Not everyone is perfect.

I was adding to the thread. One of the ways you know you are in Sheffield is that the English language takes a nosedive.

I was adding to the thread. One of the ways you know you are in Sheffield is that the English language takes a nosedive.
oh shut up and stop bringing people down cus of thier english i never put punctuation in cus i simply cant be bothered! if it bothers u that much read a book instead of threads:rant:

oh shut up and stop bringing people down cus of thier english i never put punctuation in cus i simply cant be bothered! if it bothers u that much read a book instead of threads:rant:
I think KenH may have a point in your case then (and maybe mine, I do make the odd spelling mistake from time to time).

If that's Ken's view then you shouldn't tell him to shut up, he's on a public forum contributing towards a discussion on how to tell when you are in Sheffield and appears to have made a valid point.

I think KenH may have a point in your case then (and maybe mine, I do make the odd spelling mistake from time to time).

If that's Ken's view then you shouldn't tell him to shut up, he's on a public forum contributing towards a discussion on how to tell when you are in Sheffield and appears to have made a valid point.
if he can tell people what to do so can i so i. he doesnt have a point at all cus if people want to put it in proper english they will its not kenh's place to say whether they should or shouldnt! so my opinion stays.

i'd love to hear the reason why the council spend money on speed humps in places where they are not needed, when all around sheff the potholes get worse by the week.
also why bring the kerbs further out at junctions? never understood that one.

i read an article in the star the other night about sheffield being right down at 3o something in the retail chart and the council wanted to attract more shoppers to sheff. well Jan wilson here's a bit of advise - sort the f'ing roads out so you can drive from point a to point b without having to go to point c,d,e and f first.

i live in sheffield but work in Chesterfield and when i ask my chessie born work mates if they shop in sheffield the answer is "no way the roads are to complicated and theres nowhere to park"
it doesnt take a genius to work out these are the people we should be attracting to the city but while ever we leave the road designing to the idiot who's in charge at the moment we will always play second fiddle to nottingham, leeds etc.

the worst thing is WE dont do anything about it! i say enough is enough why do we pay road tax? why do we pay council tax? it is really begining to f me off and to watch my city go backwards not forwards is heart breaking. rant over!

if he can tell people what to do so can i so i.I'm not going to get in to an argument on this, but I can't see anywhere where KenH is telling anyone what to do on this thread?:confused:

he doesnt have a point at all cus if people want to put it in proper english they will its not kenh's place to say whether they should or shouldnt! so my opinion stays.Ken's point was that some people in Sheffield don't use the English language as originally intended, that's fair enough. It's not telling people whether they should or shouldn't at all, it's an observation. It happens in many places, not just Sheffield. It's a valid point though, I don't think he was having a go at anyone, just pointing it out and contributing to the thread.

Like I said, I'm not going to argue over it, but it's not fair to have a go at him and tell him to 'shut up' because he made a valid point that you for some reason don't agree with. If we don't agree with someone's views surely it's better on a public forum to dispute it rather than just tell them to 'shut up'.

EQUALIZER, you have a good point. I still suspect that part of the reason Ebuyer left Sheffield is down to our poor road system and condition of them.

The funny thing is that you can meet people all over the country and those that have been to Sheffield in the last year or so will mention the poor roads long before they mention it being famous for steel or anything else.

And for those people that criticise others that choose to use 4x4 vehicles on public roads (no I don't have one), I think that besides the fact they have the right to choose what they drive, there's a lot of sense taking a 4x4 vehicle to Sheffield's roads instead of other cars that might suffer damage much more quickly.

[QUOTE=lalaland]I'm not going to get in to an argument on this, but I can't see anywhere where KenH is telling anyone what to do on this thread?:confused:

you obviously dont know kenh then he tends to do this all the time!! he did it to my sister b4 and copied everything she wrote and said didnt u mean.... putting all the punctuation etc in for her! if it bothers kenh that much i suggest getting a life!!:rant:

you obviously dont know kenh then he tends to do this all the time!! he did it to my sister b4 and copied everything she wrote and said didnt u mean.... putting all the punctuation etc in for her! if it bothers kenh that much i suggest getting a life!!:rant:No, I don't know KenH, but that's got nothing to do with my response regarding his posts and your posts within this thread.

KenH made a valid point that was on topic for this thread at which point you told him to 'shut up'. I think you were unfair in your actions and pointed this out.

If KenH is as you say, then that's a different matter and not one that concerns me or this thread. In this thread he made a good point. If there's ever a KenH thread (that doesn't break site rules or treat him without respect etc.) then I am sure you can have your say there and it may or may not be valid, but in here KenH's post made sense and was correct.

if your read the first post this thread was talking about roads and potholes! NOT the english language so infact kenh was off thread. i just think it is rather sad that kenh feels the need to correct people on thier english and spellings all the time:rant:

Ill know when Im in Sheffield when Dibsy leaps out of a dark alley and beats me into a coma with a baseball bat.

if your read the first post this thread was talking about roads and potholes! NOT the english language so infact kenh was off thread. i just think it is rather sad that kenh feels the need to correct people on thier english and spellings all the time:rant:
The thread title, however, is; ' You can tell your in Sheffield when...' . In response to which opening line, KenH's post makes perfect sense.

when the council have been round with their yellow spray paint, get a can of your own and circle those bits they felt not worthy of repairing. Might be worth a try

if your read the first post this thread was talking about roads and potholes! NOT the english language so infact kenh was off thread. i just think it is rather sad that kenh feels the need to correct people on thier english and spellings all the time:rant:
Jenna76, I certainly have read the first post, but can I suggest you take a moment to read the title of the thread please. This suggests, as also pointed out by pumatic, that KenH was on topic with his post.

when the council have been round with their yellow spray paint, get a can of your own and circle those bits they felt not worthy of repairing. Might be worth a try
In some cases you'd end up with entirely yellow roads :D

I have a mate that lives on a newly built housing estate that's not yet been surfaced and the amusing thing is that their road is actually better than a lot of others in Sheffield that have been surfaced.

How on earth did we get in to such a state???

if he can tell people what to do so can i so i. he doesnt have a point at all cus if people want to put it in proper english they will its not kenh's place to say whether they should or shouldnt! so my opinion stays.
thanx for sayin that jena i was getting slated bad last night on another thread over my english:thumbsup:

if your read the first post this thread was talking about roads and potholes! NOT the english language so infact kenh was off thread. i just think it is rather sad that kenh feels the need to correct people on thier english and spellings all the time:rant:

Could I just be the first smug t**t to point out that "in" and "fact" are two separate words........ :hihi:
(and don't get me started on 'thier')

when the council have been round with their yellow spray paint, get a can of your own and circle those bits they felt not worthy of repairing. Might be worth a try

That's a really good idea actually. It's not like the people doing the work will have been told which hole's have been circled.

I might help if I rewrite my previous post.

You can tell you're in Sheffield when ......

People can't be bothered to learn to write properly but they can afford to spend plenty of time droning on about potholes.

The several responses to my original post which were written in pigeon English only serve to demonstrate this point. For example ....

cus if people want to put it in proper english they will

Jenna76, I certainly have read the first post, but can I suggest you take a moment to read the title of the thread please. This suggests, as also pointed out by pumatic, that KenH was on topic with his post.
jena76 actually!:rant:

Actually the correct phrase is "Pidgin English"

thanx for sayin that jena i was getting slated bad last night on another thread over my english:thumbsup:
dont worry about it take no notice of sad people that lives revolve around fullstops etc.sad imo :thumbsup:

Actually the correct phrase is "Pidgin English"
:hihi: :hihi: nice one jabber :thumbsup:

:hihi: :hihi: nice one jabber :thumbsup:
Sorry I couldnt resist!:D

Sorry I couldnt resist!:D

Actually, it is 'couldn't'.:cool:

Sorry, I didn't mean to kick off a big arguement about spelling!

I've seen people brought down on other boards before even when they don't deliberately get their spellings wrong. I can understand people's frustrations at trying to read 'text message' language when they have been brought up using the Queen's English, I'm not overly keen on it myself. My original post could've been clearer in that I meant I don't agree with pointing it out when the original poster made a genuine error.

Apologies.

Actually, it is 'couldn't'.:cool:
thats not quite as good as jabbers tho as he doesnt bring people down for doing it kenh does!!:hihi:

Actually, it is 'couldn't'.:cool:
Im too bloody lazy to bloody mess with bloody punctu-bloody-ation and bloody stuff like bloody that!




Bloody.

oh shut up and stop bringing people down cus of thier english i never put punctuation in cus i simply cant be bothered! if it bothers u that much read a book instead of threads:rant:

touchy...

;)

touchy...

;)
:hihi: :hihi: i am touchy cus a certain forummer gets up my back! :)

thats not quite as good as jabbers tho as he doesnt bring people down for doing it kenh does!!:hihi:
'Twas a joke. I am guilty of a fair few typing errors myself now and then.:)

'Twas a joke. I am guilty of a fair few typing errors myself now and then.:)
:hihi: im guilty of more than a few but tbh couldnt care less :hihi:

Typos, HUH!
Even my name is a typo. I intended to call myself JellyBaby!

Mine was meant to be sexonlegs.

wow you tell um jena hun:thumbsup:

jena76 actually!:rant:
That's fair enough, I accept your correction to my spelling mistake.

I am able to accept a correction there and still treat you, the person correcting me, with respect. Something you may be able to adjust to at some point instead of telling people to 'shut up'.

My spelling mistake doesn't make the post any less valid though, KenH was on topic and correct in what he posted. It doesn't seem that his post was aimed at anyone in particular and wasn't insulting. I don't see a problem with it.

A discussion about language is very relevant to a post about Sheffield. I have lived in many places and Sheffield stands out as one of the worst places for slack speech. If I visit another area of the country then I know I have returned to Sheffield when people talk in a very slack manner. This seems to come out in their written text on this forum but can be heard in the street. I don't mean that people use local words, or Yorkshire dialect, I mean that they fail to make any effort to pronounce these correctly or miss out entire words from a sentence. For example, people will say "coming to shops", when, even in the Yorskhire dialect it might be "coming to t'shops".

On the subject of my alledged misuse of the word "pigeon", I offer a defence. I tend to be careful about the use of words and check when I am unsure. I checked and the phrase "pigeon english" came back as correct, although I now suspect the source is wrong.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Pigeon+English

That's fair enough, I accept your correction to my spelling mistake.

I am able to accept a correction there and still treat you, the person correcting me, with respect. Something you may be able to adjust to at some point instead of telling people to 'shut up'.

My spelling mistake doesn't make the post any less valid though, KenH was on topic and correct in what he posted. It doesn't seem that his post was aimed at anyone in particular and wasn't insulting. I don't see a problem with it.
who cares! kenh gets on my nerves with it so i told him to shut up if it has upset u SO WHAT!

who cares! kenh gets on my nerves with it so i told him to shut up if it has upset u SO WHAT!

But I haven't "shut up" and the thread title has been changed. It must have been worth the trouble making the point.

who cares! kenh gets on my nerves with it so i told him to shut up if it has upset u SO WHAT!
It's not upset me, but I was hoping you would be a bit more mature than that.

There are people that I am not too keen on that use the forum, but I still treat them with respect. I guess my parents brought me up to respect others correctly and I am glad of that.

Regardless of you liking him or not his post was valid on here and now it's just drawn out in to a slightly off topic debate on his post. I apologise to everyone else for my part in this and will say no further on the subject to allow the thread to get back on topic.

If you wish to say anything further to me on this jena76 then feel free to PM.

Can everyone calm down and get back on topic please?

Users can disagree on things, but don't have the right to tell other users to 'shut up'. If someone's written something offensive then please report the post and the mods will sort it out, but losing your cool on a thread is counterproductive.

This needs to move on, so drop the issue everyone please.

A discussion about language is very relevant to a post about Sheffield. I have lived in many places and Sheffield stands out as one of the worst places for slack speech. If I visit another area of the country then I know I have returned to Sheffield when people talk in a very slack manner. This seems to come out in their written text on this forum but can be heard in the street. I don't mean that people use local words, or Yorkshire dialect, I mean that they fail to make any effort to pronounce these correctly or miss out entire words from a sentence. For example, people will say "coming to shops", when, even in the Yorskhire dialect it might be "coming to t'shops".

On the subject of my alledged misuse of the word "pigeon", I offer a defence. I tend to be careful about the use of words and check when I am unsure. I checked and the phrase "pigeon english" came back as correct, although I now suspect the source is wrong.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Pigeon+English


Trust me, its wrong.
http://www.june29.com/HLP/lang/pidgin.html
I just gave my tongue a cramp trying to pronounce some of these words.

Actually... I might start a thread in Pidgin English.

Actually... I might start a thread in Pidgin English.
:hihi: :hihi:

You can tell you're in Sheffield when you read Ken Hs posts:hihi:

ah, this is why I like Sheffield Forum. Sometimes it's like listening to kids in the back of the car.

KenH I think you're out of line. You can criticise text message English online by all means, but to tar people in Sheffield with the brush of poor English isn't acceptable. People have the right to change and adapt their language as they wish. I love dialect and variation, and I especially love listening to the kids create their own new words and phrases to differentiate themselves from adults. It's even better when right wing newspapers make news stories out of 'Adults Can't Understand Children Anymore' like it hasn't been happening for, ooh, ever.

But Jena love, an occassional misspelling is fair enough, but just pouring out words in a line until you see fit to stop is pretty frustrating. Not being bothered to put some punctuation in, apart from being fantastically lazy (how long do commas take?) means we can't understand what you're getting at. As the point of the forum is to talk to each other, this makes it quite tricky.

KenH I think you're out of line. You can criticise text message English online by all means, but to tar people in Sheffield with the brush of poor English isn't acceptable. People have the right to change and adapt their language as they wish. I love dialect and variation, and I especially love listening to the kids create their own new words and phrases to differentiate themselves from adults. It's even better when right wing newspapers make news stories out of 'Adults Can't Understand Children Anymore' like it hasn't been happening for, ooh, ever.
.


You may well not agree with me, but I find the slackness of speech in Sheffield to be something that makes the city stand out. Other people think of the potholes, which I don't really think are that bad, certainly not where I live or on the roads I generally use. If I have been to another city and come back I wouldn't think "I must be in Sheffield because the roads are bad", but I would think "I must be in Sheffield because they can't be bothered to speak English". I am not really talking about creating new words or phrases, but rather the poor way that they pronounce the old ones. I am also annoyed by the lazy way that several words can be missed from a sentence. These are the things that remind me of Sheffield and so are a reasonable thing to post on this thread. It is no surprise to me that several Sheffielders then attack this view using language which is almost unreadable.

Hiya, ive just joined "Sheffield Forum" still feeling my way around, by the way i love my Sheffield accent

Hiya, ive just joined "Sheffield Forum" still feeling my way around, by the way i love my Sheffield accent

I wasn't talking about an accent, I have an accent as well. I am talking about lazy speech.

Sorry should have put my Sheffield dialect (i'll get used to this soon)

Oh dear dont want to argue, only just come on please be nice to me dont know wot i'm doing

Oh dear dont want to argue, only just come on please be nice to me dont know wot i'm doing
Youll be fine! and welcome to the forum!:)

Thanks for welcoming me:) it'll be better when i know what im doing:thumbsup: how do i get these smilies on please

Oh got em on thanks

You may well not agree with me, but I find the slackness of speech in Sheffield to be something that makes the city stand out. Other people think of the potholes, which I don't really think are that bad, certainly not where I live or on the roads I generally use. If I have been to another city and come back I wouldn't think "I must be in Sheffield because the roads are bad", but I would think "I must be in Sheffield because they can't be bothered to speak English". I am not really talking about creating new words or phrases, but rather the poor way that they pronounce the old ones. I am also annoyed by the lazy way that several words can be missed from a sentence. These are the things that remind me of Sheffield and so are a reasonable thing to post on this thread. It is no surprise to me that several Sheffielders then attack this view using language which is almost unreadable.
if you are so up on english why should it be so hard for u to understand when people dont use punctuation? simple answer put it in yourself :rant:

jena ur really irritating even me now with ur sheer bloody mindedness people would find it easier to understand u and perhaps agree with u if u at least made an effort to punctuate ur sentences oh and well done on the use of a question mark its a start at least


translates as:

jena, you're really irritating even me now, with your sheer bloody mindedness. People would find it easier to understand you, and perhaps agree with you, if you at least made an effort to punctuate your sentences.

Oh, and well done on the use of a question mark. It's a start at least.



See, didn't you find the second one easier to read and understand? Lynne Truss would take you to task big style.

who cares whether im irritating you! not me thats for sure if u dont like what i put when u see jena76 dont read it simple as!!!!!

if you are so up on english why should it be so hard for u to understand when people dont use punctuation? simple answer put it in yourself :rant:

I didn't mention punctuation. In your sentence you put "u", when I assume you meant "you". This is simply lazy and shows a lack of respect of other people as you make it hard for others when a bit more effort would make it easier for everyone. In speech this manifests itself by many Sheffielders missing out entire words from a sentence and slurring others, so that they make it harder for the other person but save themselves a tiny bit of effort. This is not a Yorkshire thing, as the Yorkshire dialect tends to be crisp. The fact is that you can speak any words in a way that everyone can understand or in a way which makes it hard to understand.

Simple as what?

Incidentally, my post was advice aimed at allowing you to make your point with a bit more gravitas. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I didn't mention punctuation. In your sentence you put "u", when I assume you meant "you". This is simply lazy and shows a lack of respect of other people as you make it hard for others when a bit more effort would make it easier for everyone. In speech this manifests itself by many Sheffielders missing out entire words from a sentence and slurring others, so that they make it harder for the other person but save themselves a tiny bit of effort. This is not a Yorkshire thing, as the Yorkshire dialect tends to be crisp. The fact is that you can speak any words in a way that everyone can understand or in a way which makes it hard to understand.
no what i actually meant was u if u cant understand that u means you u have serious probs not me..... oh and btw probs= problems

I am a bit confused, I am making a point about slack speech and we seem to have one semi-illiterate person still going on about something in some stange SMS language.

kenh, u iz de biz, me fink dat ur point iz de best i av sin in aguz, u iz de man. big up kenh.

kenh, u iz de biz, me fink dat ur point iz de best i av sin in aguz, u iz de man. big up kenh.
I almost lost an eye trying to decypher that:D

is dat cuz u ant got a clue ow to use dat scythe*



*sincere apologies, I couldn't manage in the slightest to 'txt spk' scythe. Also, note my lack of punctuation. It is intentional.

Syve?? That works for me.

I am a bit confused, I am making a point about slack speech and we seem to have one semi-illiterate person still going on about something in some stange SMS language.
i suggest u get with the times then:rant:

don't you use a syve to wash veg with?

i suggest u get with the times then:rant:

What does this mean? Get with the times? I like to think I'm 'with the times', but i don't feel the need to talk and type like an illiterate imbecile.

well u obviously arent with the times are u or u could understand text speak. haha resorting to insults well done that must make u feel a big man:hihi: :hihi:

well u obviously arent with the times are u or u could understand text speak. haha resorting to insults well done that must make u feel a big man:hihi: :hihi:

I have a big keyboard where I can use all my fingers. Do you type on one where you can only use your thumbs?

In any case, I was talking about how I notice that speech in Sheffield is slack and lazy. Doesn't the content of your message prove that I am right, at least in your case?

I have a big keyboard where I can use all my fingers. Do you type on one where you can only use your thumbs?

In any case, I was talking about how I notice that speech in Sheffield is slack and lazy. Doesn't the content of your message prove that I am right, at least in your case?
i think if u read back i said i simply cant be bothered so in actual fact i was right not you!

I was talking about how I notice that speech in Sheffield is slack and lazy



i simply cant be bothered

QED I think?

anyone interested in a sweepstake about how long jena and ken can keep this up? :hihi:

anyone interested in a sweepstake about how long jena and ken can keep this up? :hihi:
i can keep it up all night because at the end of the day its my opinion so i will stick to it :hihi:

don't you use a syve to wash veg with?

Vegetables..tut tut!! how lazy of you..

Vegetables..tut tut!! how lazy of you..
:hihi: :hihi:

QED I think?
right u have lost me i dont know what qed means so let me know so i can carry on the arguement:thumbsup:

right u have lost me i dont know what qed means so let me know so i can carry on the arguement:thumbsup:

Then look it up on the internet.

I have expressed an opinion about Sheffielders and slack speech but you just seem to drone on about how everyone else should struggle to work out what you are saying. It seems to me that this means you agree with me. You are saying that you are lazy but everyone else should put in more effort to try to understand you.

My real argument is about the spoken word rather than the written word. I hear people in Sheffield miss out entire words and, regardless of your opinion on whether this is a good or bad thing, this reminds me that I am back in Sheffield.

Then look it up on the internet.

I have expressed an opinion about Sheffielders and slack speech but you just seem to drone on about how everyone else should struggle to work out what you are saying. It seems to me that this means you agree with me. You are saying that you are lazy but everyone else should put in more effort to try to understand you.

My real argument is about the spoken word rather than the written word. I hear people in Sheffield miss out entire words and, regardless of your opinion on whether this is a good or bad thing, this reminds me that I am back in Sheffield.
actually you are wrong again! what i said was if u dont like what i put either work it out or dont read what i put end of! also why would i want to look it up on the internet it doesnt bother me that much :hihi: :hihi:

My real argument is about the spoken word rather than the written word. I hear people in Sheffield miss out entire words and, regardless of your opinion on whether this is a good or bad thing, this reminds me that I am back in Sheffield.

Give us an example..

Then look it up on the internet.

I have expressed an opinion about Sheffielders and slack speech but you just seem to drone on about how everyone else should struggle to work out what you are saying. It seems to me that this means you agree with me. You are saying that you are lazy but everyone else should put in more effort to try to understand you.

My real argument is about the spoken word rather than the written word. I hear people in Sheffield miss out entire words and, regardless of your opinion on whether this is a good or bad thing, this reminds me that I am back in Sheffield.

Ken isn't text speak just progression as we don't speak the same as the 1800's or the 1900's

Language changes over time, thats a fact of life:)

Give us an example..

I don't speak the lingo, so I may have to go out into the street and ask a passer by for a better example. I am talking partly about slurring words and and partly about removing words such as "the" and "to" from sentences. For example, "I am going to the shops" might become "I'm going shops", which might even sound like "am going shops".

Mod Note: I've tried politely asking everyone to move on from this, but it doesn't seem to have worked.

Next step is to tell you to move away from the petty digging- I'll remove the thread if it's going to continue in this vein.

I don't speak the lingo, so I may have to go out into the street and ask a passer by for a better example. I am talking partly about slurring words and and partly about removing words such as "the" and "to" from sentences. For example, "I am going to the shops" might become "I'm going shops", which might even sound like "am going shops".


If we all spoke the same we would be clones :loopy:

I don't speak the lingo, so I may have to go out into the street and ask a passer by for a better example. I am talking partly about slurring words and and partly about removing words such as "the" and "to" from sentences. For example, "I am going to the shops" might become "I'm going shops", which might even sound like "am going shops".
thats wrong for a start! people dont say im going shops think u will find its im gonna shops

Ken isn't text speak just progression as we don't speak the same as the 1800's or the 1900's

Language changes over time, thats a fact of life:)

No it isn't. The language gets richer over time or the meaning or words change. The dictionary tends to get longer as new meanings are added to old words. Text speak is unnecessary even for SMS messages, but in any place where you can type with more than your two thumbs it is an abomination. It is bad, outside of SMS, because it restricts the number of words and makes language so simple that it has no meaning other than the face value of the text. The intention of SMS was to allow simple short messages such as "you have £5 credit" which require no extra explanation.

Mod Note: I've tried politely asking everyone to move on from this, but it doesn't seem to have worked.

Next step is to tell you to move away from the petty digging- I'll remove the thread if it's going to continue in this vein.
i think u will find it wasnt me that carried on i am just sticking up for myself when others have carried it on :thumbsup:

I don't speak the lingo, so I may have to go out into the street and ask a passer by for a better example. I am talking partly about slurring words and and partly about removing words such as "the" and "to" from sentences. For example, "I am going to the shops" might become "I'm going shops", which might even sound like "am going shops".

Oh right..

I have heard..I'm going to shops but not I'm going shops :hihi: That does sound rather silly..

think u will find its im gonna shops

I defer to your obvious greater knowledge of such things. This does rather make my point that this kind of thing is what reminds me of Sheffield.

I defer to your obvious greater knowledge of such things. This does rather make my point that this kind of thing is what reminds me of Sheffield.
yes which proves im more with the times than you :hihi:

"you have £5 credit" which require no extra explanation.

"You have £5 of calling credit"

Dear Ken please do not shorten things:(

"You have £5 of calling credit"

Dear Ken please do not shorten things:(

My point is that the SMS system was designed for shortened messages, that is why it is the "Short Message Service". In real English there is no need to shorten things in normal speech.

My point is that the SMS system was designed for shortened messages, that is why it is the "Short Message Service". In real English there is no need to shorten things in normal speech.
i think putting posts on forum is more short messages than anything else! u never heard of short but sweet?:hihi:

My point is that the SMS system was designed for shortened messages, that is why it is the "Short Message Service". In real English there is no need to shorten things in normal speech.


:o I C......

:o I C......
:hihi: :hihi:

I'm afraid I'm nowhere near as patient as Medusa is.

Closing.

I may return later and re-open it. In the meantime, I suggest certain people read the FAQs about the acceptability or otherwise of text speech on here.

Thanks.