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Jon
17-06-2003, 22:16
Just had a joyrider where i live on the Shiregreen...just wanted to know which areas of Sheffield are over run with Joyriders?

t020
17-06-2003, 22:30
Don't know about that. When I'm driving around though I'm sick of all of the 'boy racers' about in their modified citreon saxos or vauxhall novas driving around like maniacs with music blasting out and going twice the speed limit. Idiots.

RPG
17-06-2003, 22:33
makes you wonder how they afford to buy em and insure them (if they even do that :roll: )

t020
17-06-2003, 22:34
Originally posted by "RPG"

makes you wonder how they afford to buy em and insure them (if they even do that :roll: )

Probably not. Some will be parent-funded. Others will be funded by 14 hour shifts at McDonalds. :lol:

kittykat
17-06-2003, 22:48
Some of them are worse drivers than ME even! Some must be fairly well off cos they have quite newish hatchbacks and make them look silly by adding odd things to them. Its funny to see a mundane car such as the punto with bits and bobs on it so it looks almost unrecognisable. They look far better without.
Whats perhaps MOST ridiculous is those blue lights they have underneaith that make the cars look like space ships. That looks so weird. Yep, when i see a Nova coming my way i move quicker than you can say bobs your uncle.
PS; some dont pay for insurance, tax etc, did you see traffic cops?

PaulTansley
18-06-2003, 08:33
What gets me annoyed is when joyriders get killed in police chases and everyone trys to blame the police.....I remember the fatal joyriders crash at todwick roundabout a few years ago were they held the persuing police responsible vituallly saying that had the police not chased them the accident would'nt have happened.
Personally all joyriders should get the same ending as there a nuisence to society and put up the risk factor for us law obiding motorists every time we venture out.
Sorry to sound so awfull but every car thiefs derserve getting killed for there crimes before they kill us.

alchresearch
18-06-2003, 17:23
Saxos are popular because the entry level model is about £5000 and comes with a years free insurance. Quite a good bargain for kids as it will cost well over a grand.

*Twinkle*
18-06-2003, 17:51
I saw a full on prat today... I was on my way to the bus stop near the Noah's Ark (intake) , when a white hatchback shot through the traffic lights, bombed past the Wadsworth estate and drove at a terrifyingly close distance to the car approaching the top of the hill close to the Frechville shops.

I didn't see the driver, but it was obvious that s/he was some sort of bighead. I really couldn't believe how fast s/he was going. If an old lady or a child were crossing at the lights they'd have absolutely no chance :shock:

Wilb
18-06-2003, 18:03
Theres some tit who keeps riding up and down Olive Grove Road on his newfound motorbike at stupid speeds - what makes it better is he doesnt wear a helmet or any protective gear... Soon enough Im sure his head will be smashed into a wall, which will be unfortunate.

Geoff
18-06-2003, 18:54
Originally posted by "Jon"

..which areas of Sheffield are the worst for joyriders?
The worse area must be a Ponds Forge, they can't get much speed up there and must keep skidding off :lol:

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

PaulTansley
18-06-2003, 19:56
Originally posted by "Wilb"

Theres some tit who keeps riding up and down Olive Grove Road on his newfound motorbike at stupid speeds - what makes it better is he doesnt wear a helmet or any protective gear... Soon enough Im sure his head will be smashed into a wall, which will be unfortunate.Unfortunate for the wall.

Wilb
18-06-2003, 21:46
Most definitely. :D

t020
18-06-2003, 22:05
Agreed 8)

Phanerothyme
18-06-2003, 22:16
Sad, but true.

My mums car was destroyed by a kid on a bike (it was a Peugeot 104) who broke his arm (v.lucky)

6 weeks later we heard he had piled his fiesta into lampost or somesuch and died.

But as you point out, Joyriding will eventually die out as fewer and fewer of them get to pass on their genes (if indeed they are in some way predisposed to that sort of behaviour).

muffin
18-06-2003, 23:07
What gets me annoyed is when joyriders get killed in police chases
Cycleracer wrote this but why get annoyed, ok, I know, I know, you were meaning that the police get the blame, but just taking the phrase above, each time a joyrider dies, go out for a pint, be happy, celebrate, give the cat some caviar.

muffin
18-06-2003, 23:13
Ok, I was a bit extreme, I'm sorry. Sort of sorry.....but I'd like to smash the faces in of those who stole my car.

mattgreen
19-06-2003, 09:07
Perhaps rather than celebrating the horrific death of a young person we should ask ourselves why they did it in the first place.

Abdul
19-06-2003, 09:58
Originally posted by "mattgreen"

Perhaps rather than celebrating the horrific death of a young person we should ask ourselves why they did it in the first place.

That wouldn't be my first priority, should one of my children ever be chewed up under their front wheels

t020
19-06-2003, 11:26
Originally posted by "mattgreen"

Perhaps rather than celebrating the horrific death of a young person we should ask ourselves why they did it in the first place.

Or not...

Perhaps we should be celebrating the fact that they can never put many peoples lives, especially children and the elderly, in danger ever again?

Miss_60
19-06-2003, 12:44
Langsett Road is one of the prime targets for "boy racers" cuz they have a long stretch of raod to act like idiots. I've seen some harrass other drivers by getting right up there jacksees........its disgraceful.....why are the majority of these idiots blokes?

Phanerothyme
19-06-2003, 13:15
simple answer? testosterone

because lots of blokes cannot resist their biological tendencies to thump their chests at each other, using whatever cultural implements are to hand, just to show they are the biggest monkey of the lot.

Women do it to, just not as many of them, and they tend to have stronger testosterone levels.

If I'm on my own and I'm being close tailgated by some teenage snot in a hot hatch I usually just slam the brakes on, if the prevailing road conditions allow it. That usually gives them enough of a shock to back off a bit.

If I can't do that, I will just slow down gradually without using the brakes at all until I am crawling along or they start keeping their distance. Then they can either sit behind me at 35 mph, peeping and fuming for the next 30 miles or overtake me and plough into the path of the oncoming tank transporter.

PaulTansley
19-06-2003, 13:18
Got to admit it that the majoritie are blokes, not most.
Road rage, car theft, robbery and burglary are all commited by males.

Miss_60
19-06-2003, 13:22
.....female criminality is very different...mainly fraud

andyb
19-06-2003, 13:29
Try Morrison's car park at Hillsbrough, that is where they all seem to congregate. Quite often causing people with shopping trollys to flee for their lives. I am suprised that the supermarket allows them to use it as a race track.
As an aside NO VA means 'doesn't go' in Spanish hence the name change to Corsa probably.

andyb

Phanerothyme
19-06-2003, 19:32
Originally posted by "andyb"

Try Morrison's car park at Hillsbrough, that is where they all seem to congregate. Quite often causing people with shopping trollys to flee for their lives. I am suprised that the supermarket allows them to use it as a race track.
As an aside NO VA means 'doesn't go' in Spanish hence the name change to Corsa probably.

andyb
Indeed, absolutely true-changed for the euromarket

Also Toyota MR2 in french:
"Le Toyota emm err deux (merde)"
was rapidly changed to Toyota MR in France!

(other famous mistranslations follow)
Coke brings your ancestors back from the dead ("Coke is Life" slogan in Mandarin)

The Angry Raisin ("Grapes of Wrath" in Japanese)

I am a donut ("Ich bin ein Berliner" JFK, Berlin, during the cold war sometime)

Tom in Bradway
20-06-2003, 11:01
Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but after the previous post I had to share this 'interesting' mis-translation that I found today.

Powergen, the energy supplier has bought out an Italian firm.... their website address is:
www.powergenitalia.com

This is completely true, although I think someones realised and withdrawn the link, although if you search Google it still comes up.

Bit childish but had me chuckling!

Tom

max
20-06-2003, 12:10
Originally posted by "Tom in Bradway"

Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but after the previous post I had to share this 'interesting' mis-translation that I found today.

Powergen, the energy supplier has bought out an Italian firm.... their website address is:
www.powergenitalia.com

This is completely true, although I think someones realised and withdrawn the link, although if you search Google it still comes up.

Bit childish but had me chuckling!

Tom

Nope, it's up there with straight bananas.

http://theregister.co.uk/content/28/31273.html

Tom in Bradway
20-06-2003, 12:47
I feel silly now... :oops:

max
20-06-2003, 12:55
Originally posted by "Tom in Bradway"

I feel silly now... :oops:

Soz. :twisted:

halevan
23-06-2003, 18:13
Don't know about joyriders but we get youths on small motorbikes pop, pop, popping away hour after hour in the woods near to where I live and it is so annoying to listen to hour after hour.

Richard Ap Rhys
25-06-2003, 03:20
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mattgreen
Perhaps rather than celebrating the horrific death of a young person we should ask ourselves why they did it in the first place. [/QUOTE


Because the Police are so useless that they can get away with stealing peoples vehicles. Because it gives them an adrenalin buzz?

Instead of finding excuses for crime society should be dealing with crime. Harshly. If the risk of being caught and facing real punishment was bigger then crime would plummet.

As it is, criminals know that statistically, crime pays.

Every time a young criminal is killed, his career in screwing up other peoples lives is cut short. A cause for celebration if ever there was one.

DaBouncer
25-06-2003, 09:14
AFAIC these poeple who fly around in there boy racer cars should be banned. In fact (and this may upset some people) I think the minimum age for driving should be 21. No vote, no drive!
I also think the same bout alcohol... but thats for another thread!;)

Phanerothyme
25-06-2003, 09:42
Originally posted by Richard Ap Rhys
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mattgreen
Perhaps rather than celebrating the horrific death of a young person we should ask ourselves why they did it in the first place. [/QUOTE


Because the Police are so useless that they can get away with stealing peoples vehicles. Because it gives them an adrenalin buzz?

Instead of finding excuses for crime society should be dealing with crime. Harshly. If the risk of being caught and facing real punishment was bigger then crime would plummet.

As it is, criminals know that statistically, crime pays.

Every time a young criminal is killed, his career in screwing up other peoples lives is cut short. A cause for celebration if ever there was one.

You want to cut down on the self righteous pills there.

You are society. Society's failings are your failings. What are you doing about them?

jenny
25-06-2003, 12:21
[SIZE=4]ABSOLUTE TWOCKERS!!!!![/SIZE

Why do they have massive spoilers on the back of cars
You could have a picnic of the back of some of them
The other day i saw a Alfa in silver with Tinted windows and a spoiler the size of a small park bench ! Pimp Mobile or what anyone else seen it flying round>>>??????

PS Take your bean can exhausts oFF!!!!

RunningFree
25-06-2003, 22:06
Well, boy races really [edited] me off. Driving around like they own the roads. Whats funny about them, theya re all old bangers, or crappy Citron Saxo's. I really hate that car, there so tacky!

I am young and I do play my music loud when I am in the car. I love my music but don't like the tought of people thinking I am a boy racer just cos I have loud music.
But, I am me, I do what i like, poeple shouldn't judge before they know.

[Deleted Bad Language]

tom3t0
26-06-2003, 19:40
Manor is probably the worst with only a few persisent TWOCers, but theres KARMA and recently one little *unt got their commupence, crashed into a fence bust a load of ribs, pity the smak hed got morphene while he was in, lets hope he gets better n dies next time. but car crime round manor is becoming rarer. I prefer them to drive faster cos it increases the chance of em crashing. Fair enough if they bought the car n no women n children are around but otherwise ppl should drive sensibly

saxon51
26-10-2003, 19:11
Originally posted by mattgreen
Perhaps rather than celebrating the horrific death of a young person we should ask ourselves why they did it in the first place.

Cos they're brainless, ignorant prats who don't give a ***** for anyone or anything. My dream ending to a police chase is the joyrider wrapped around a lamp post, and the copper doing the chasing commended for a job well done.

Looney Liberals comments welcome, but I already know what's coming.

alchresearch
26-10-2003, 20:10
Hear hear. I long for the day when someone cuts me up or acts like a general muppet to see him in a pile of twisted metal half through his windscreen and half on his bonnet.

A few months ago a woman cut me up on the Park Square roundabout. She was eating an apple with one hand and talking on her phone with the other.

I beeped and flashed her, hung out of the window and called her the usual. She sped off and went onto the parkway - first gear, then into second, into third, to fourth and then CLUNK straight into reverse!!!!

chalicefc3
26-10-2003, 20:28
Originally posted by alchresearch
Hear hear. I long for the day when someone cuts me up or acts like a general muppet to see him in a pile of twisted metal half through his windscreen and half on his bonnet.

A few months ago a woman cut me up on the Park Square roundabout. She was eating an apple with one hand and talking on her phone with the other.

I beeped and flashed her, hung out of the window and called her the usual. She sped off and went onto the parkway - first gear, then into second, into third, to fourth and then CLUNK straight into reverse!!!!


Ah Man, that sounded wicked. i'd have paid good money to see that happen!!

Whats the deal when that occurs? Does the car do a Dukes of Hazard flip when slammed in reverse at 40 mph or does the GB simply fall out into a pile of nuts and bolts onto the parkway - pray tell!!!

This is a nice thread and makes me smile like a dangerous criminal just released back into society!! I propose that we all carry on-board stingers. One button deployment will soon see those muppets reduced to 5 mph and sparks flying off their rims. We got jealous up Hillsborough t'other day - me mate's exhaust fell off and while tucking into an undeserved burger king - i almost choked through laughing when this ''burberry'' kid rolled up in his corsa ''jet'' with 5 exhausts sticking out the back. Could have at least given us one of them!! Tax 'em per exhaust pipe - that will rid the craze!!!

saxon51
29-10-2003, 12:16
Yesterday, 1230 hrs, junction Abbey Lane/Ecclesall Road.
Sat at traffic lights, first in queue, heading towards Derbyshire.
Two crater brained teenagers on a tiny motorbike sounding like an asthmatic mozzie pull up on my outside front wing and way over the line.
They look over their shoulders at me and rev like hell obviously offering me a burn-up.
Lights turn to green and off they wobble, pillion passenger legs all over, both leaning forwards (aerodynamically) and doing 30 flat out along the centre line.
I followed at about 10 feet in third gear and they were sh*tting themselves.
They turned left eventually, no indication, no brakelights, no balance and as they did I hooted them. They fell of. GREAT.
Why didn't I take up their offer of a burn-up? Because cars were behind me. Am I bothered if they're hurt? NO!

Phanerothyme
29-10-2003, 13:21
Originally posted by markham
Cos they're brainless, ignorant prats who don't give a ***** for anyone or anything. My dream ending to a police chase is the joyrider wrapped around a lamp post, and the copper doing the chasing commended for a job well done.

Looney Liberals comments welcome, but I already know what's coming.

That's LOONY liberal as it happens, and I should know I'm a card carrying member.

Presumably you'd feel the same ( My dream ending to a police chase is the joyrider wrapped around a lamp post) if it was your child doing the joyriding

Extra big slap for the copper's back eh? and maybe a cup of tea too. Everyone's a winner.

max
29-10-2003, 13:27
Good lord phanny old chap! You don't think the sort of fellow who posts on this forum is likely to have an offspring of that ilk, do you?

Karlt
29-10-2003, 14:05
Well, I'm a signed up member of the loony liberal bleeding heart club. I think I'd rather mourn a young life lost through stupidity. Question is - will you do your celebration in the presence of the kid's family - make sure they know as well his life was worthless and better ended?

Boy Racers are just a symptom of a wider disease. It's the disease that says "the laws don't apply to me". And you're just as much part of it if you're the person who shoots past me at 40 on Chesterfield Road, who whines when he gets a parking ticket, or comes up my arse flashing your lights.

Pete1024
29-10-2003, 15:46
I blame speed camera's for an increase in car crime, and crime in general.
You see before speed cameras the cops had to physically be on the roads to catch speeders and so would catch more joyriders and car theives.
The yanks have stopped using speed cameras as due to some rule they are required to take the whole camera to court. So the Americans have more police cars on the streets, stopping more than just traffic crime.

saxon51
29-10-2003, 15:49
Originally posted by max
Good lord phanny old chap! You don't think the sort of fellow who posts on this forum is likely to have an offspring of that ilk, do you?

If I did have an offspring of that ilk I'd be too ashamed to call it mine, and I'd hand it over to the police myself. Cruel aren't I. Almost as cruel as the do gooders who insist on wanting these junior scumbags to be allowed to stay in society so they can terrorise the decent people.
I'd love to be present when one of the caring, sharing, lets-give-em-a-chance brigade finds a couple of yobs leaving their house loaded down with their goods. Or they hit one of their relatives whilst joyriding.
What would they say as they look down on their dead kin?
"I dont bear a grudge, its not their fault. Please dont punish them". I THINK NOT.

saxon51
29-10-2003, 16:00
Originally posted by Karlt
Boy Racers are just a symptom of a wider disease. It's the disease that says "the laws don't apply to me". And you're just as much part of it if you're the person who shoots past me at 40 on Chesterfield Road, who whines when he gets a parking ticket, or comes up my arse flashing your lights.

Sorry to burst your bubble Karlt, but I wouldn't come up your arse, lights flashing or not.
And for your information, I've never had a parking ticket cos I make a point of not illegally parking.
I don't knowingly speed, and I do respect the law.
So do my kids. I see to that, and although it may be hard for you and all the other liberals to grasp, there are people out there who live within the law (kids as well) who have a right to criticise the scum with whom we are forced to share this world.
Why can't you accept it when someone can honestly say "MY KIDS HAVE NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE, AND NEITHER HAVE I".
We do exist you know.

Karlt
29-10-2003, 16:21
There's a far cry between "don't punish them" and "I'm glad they're dead", Markham. To burst your bubble, I was very ****** off when the individual who was done for receiving when my moped was nicked only got an absolute discharge. Don't make assumptions.

Of course you have a right to criticise criminals. What I find rather unpleasant is your willingness to rejoice in their death. Plain nasty, as is your desire to gloat when a liberal is robbed. I don't do that, so by the same token, I have the right to criticise your hatefulness.

Your problem is that you have created a straw-man liberal who doesn't believe anyone is law abiding and doesn't believe in punishment. Very few "liberals" are like that - I don't know any. And yes, I'm also one of those who has never been in trouble with the law. You think I don't believe I exist?

And can you find the point where I fingered you as a speeder, or an illegal parker? Nope, me neither. Just pointed out there's a spectrum of wrongdoing in this arena.

alchresearch
29-10-2003, 17:40
Originally posted by Karlt
Of course you have a right to criticise criminals. What I find rather unpleasant is your willingness to rejoice in their death.

When Tony Martin killed Fred Barras and I was told about how he lay dying for hours in undergrowth, I smiled with glee. Is that really wrong? Criminal behaviour is not respected and if they died in an unrespected way, then sorry but it's tough.

Barras got what he deserved and I'm only sorry that his pal Fearon didn't go the same way. Two habitual criminals who will keep on breaking the law because they know that courts are a farce and they get away with it. Thankfully, justice was served on one of them.

saxon51
29-10-2003, 19:26
Originally posted by Karlt
[And you're just as much part of it if you're the person who shoots past me at 40 on Chesterfield Road, who whines when he gets a parking ticket, or comes up my arse flashing your lights. [/B]

Your quote above Karlt.
What I read is that you're saying that I am possibly the person you refer to.
I am simply telling you that I am not that person, and I also give the reason why its not me.
It's the "And you're just as much part of it if you're the person_____" bit that reads accusingly.
I apologise though for my offhand comments.

Lickszz
29-10-2003, 19:26
Originally posted by alchresearch
When Tony Martin killed Fred Barras and I was told about how he lay dying for hours in undergrowth, I smiled with glee. Is that really wrong? Criminal behaviour is not respected and if they died in an unrespected way, then sorry but it's tough.

Barras got what he deserved and I'm only sorry that his pal Fearon didn't go the same way. Two habitual criminals who will keep on breaking the law because they know that courts are a farce and they get away with it. Thankfully, justice was served on one of them.

Here here.

I laugh when the do-gooders say youngsters re-offend after prison. Well they will, they don't see the inside of one until they have committed around 250 offences. They are habitual criminals before they get inside.

saxon51
29-10-2003, 19:46
Originally posted by Karlt
There's a far cry between "don't punish them" and "I'm glad they're dead", Markham. To burst your bubble, I was very ****** off when the individual who was done for receiving when my moped was nicked only got an absolute discharge. Don't make assumptions.

I don't think I have ever said that these scum should die, but wrapped round a lamp post yes. That's you making an assumption.
I do realise that liberal minded people suffer from crime, but the ones who I refer to when I say I'd like to see their reactions when they're robbed or worse are the extreme liberals who constantly support the criminal and say its not their fault, its society.
If society was to blame then we'd all be criminals but we clearly are not as I hope you'd agree Karlt.
Once again excuse my arrogance, but we are getting in to this a bit deep and emotions on both sides are running high.

foreverdelayed
30-10-2003, 01:33
Originally posted by The Cycleracer
What gets me annoyed is when joyriders get killed in police chases and everyone trys to blame the police.....I remember the fatal joyriders crash at todwick roundabout a few years ago were they held the persuing police responsible vituallly saying that had the police not chased them the accident would'nt have happened.
Personally all joyriders should get the same ending as there a nuisence to society and put up the risk factor for us law obiding motorists every time we venture out.
Sorry to sound so awfull but every car thiefs derserve getting killed for there crimes before they kill us.

well this is basically why the police don't like to chase joyriders cause fi tghey crash then the parents blame them, you killed my 12 yr old boy etc......no the parent is responsable, at 12 they should not be out past 10 and how the hell do their parents not know they're stealing cars n hotwiring them

foreverdelayed
30-10-2003, 01:37
Originally posted by Wilb
Theres some tit who keeps riding up and down Olive Grove Road on his newfound motorbike at stupid speeds - what makes it better is he doesnt wear a helmet or any protective gear... Soon enough Im sure his head will be smashed into a wall, which will be unfortunate.

i remember on a sad occassion ( mates furneal((bikers one)) ) well all the bikes were lined in the street and waiting for the herse etc and this prat trying to show off came speeding down the street and exactly outside her house he hit a pot hole came flying off his bike scratched all one side went skidding on his front for 10 metres n hit another bike. From where we were it looked like the guys were helping him but it turned out the said " u'd better get the F**K outa here b4 we find n e damage or we'll damage u

Karlt
30-10-2003, 07:55
Markham - thanks for your replies - as you say, emotions run high. There's always a tendancy to make assumptions about the opposing view.

Someone asked whether it was wrong to smile with glee at the thought of Barras dying in agony after being shot - I have to say yes, it is. But in the end, that comes from my religious convictions and I'm absolutely sure I wouldn't be able to convince anyone that hatred of any kind, rejoicing in the pain of any other person, is wrong without convincing you my religious stance is also true. There's little point.

I've said my piece; let's move on.

max
30-10-2003, 08:03
Originally posted by Karlt
Markham - thanks for your replies - as you say, emotions run high. There's always a tendancy to make assumptions about the opposing view.

Someone asked whether it was wrong to smile with glee at the thought of Barras dying in agony after being shot - I have to say yes, it is. But in the end, that comes from my religious convictions and I'm absolutely sure I wouldn't be able to convince anyone that hatred of any kind, rejoicing in the pain of any other person, is wrong without convincing you my religious stance is also true. There's little point.

I've said my piece; let's move on.
I have pretty much the same feelings but cannot attribute it to any religious convictions. I also feel the same about cruelty to animals. Taking pleasure from any creature's pain is senseless.

jackthedog
23-01-2004, 08:20
I hate them.

My 18 year old hatchback - about as humble a car as you will find on the roads of Sheffield - currently costs me £790 per year to insure.

And it's all thanks to these small-minded, exhaust-drilling chavs that race around the streets in tricked up Novas and Corsas, and try it on with 14 year old girls in the local supermarket carpark.

Any male my age (21) is tared with the same brush.

Boy racers are scum. Sheffield has loads and I hate them all.

DaBouncer
23-01-2004, 08:26
They're everywhere mate.
By the way I like your only reference to Sheffield is that Sheffield has loads of em.:thumbsup:

I know what you mean tho. I have only just got my own insurance on a vehicle in my own name. I'm 25 (almost 26) and it's a 10 yr old 2.0lt BMW 520i. That insurance only costs me £850 per year (first year). I think this maybe due to my age and the value of the car.

I know what you mean tho... I used to work for an insurance company and saw loads of young people insuring small grouping cars (like group 1 - 3.... or fiesta's and saxo's) for like £1200 a year.

I know tho that Nova's are classed as a group 5-6 (or at least they used to be) because of the high theft factor of em.

It's not easy but it's a situation you can't get out of.
What type of car you got!

jackthedog
23-01-2004, 08:35
Its a Peugoet 205. 1 litre. Woefully slow - I couldnt thrash about in it if I wanted to.

I live in a reasonably quiet area, I've had no crashes, convictions etc. Been driving for 4 years now. I'm known as a good driver by people that know me, but all that is ignored because of my age and gender. That's it. End of story.

It's terrible.

jackthedog
23-01-2004, 08:36
I reckon your car would cost me about £2500 per year to insure.

DaBouncer
23-01-2004, 08:47
Who you insured with?

jackthedog
23-01-2004, 08:49
Norwich Union. No excess (which doesnt help).

DaBouncer
23-01-2004, 08:57
That'a where you're going wrong. I used to work foir NUD and they are over priced IMHO.

Try RAC insurance online now. They act as brokers and will probably find you a better deal.

Get a quote as if your insurance is due for renewal now (but with the same no claims as you had when you started your insurance this time round).

Lets see if there is a a difference. Also how many years NCD have you got?

steelblade
23-01-2004, 09:01
Try www.budgetinsurance.com

jackthedog
23-01-2004, 09:07
The NCD is a problem, as i'll only have a year because I was a named driver on parents car until last year.

This isn't ever going to happen, but it would be nice if insurers could do a bit more of a character check rather than just judging you on certain factors.

Perhaps they could accept references or something. Dont know how it all works, obviously, but it would help out a lot of young drivers.

Maybe they should take a look at people's magazine collections to see how many Max Power magazines they own. For every Max Power owned, they add £1000! Sounds good to me.

spook
23-01-2004, 09:52
try www.elephant.co.uk that's who i'm with and they consistently beat other quotes each time I come to renew. They also do a no claims accelerator which might be handy for you - your policy is for 10 months instead of a year but you get a full years no claim at the end of it - if you've not had any bumps obviously.
I'm 31 and in the emergency services. Drive a Puma (stop laughing at the back) and to add my 24 year old missus (fully comp) and upgrade to business use/fully comp protected no claims, grand total for the year just under £300 which I thought was bob on.
Give em try - they'll do a quote online.

DaBouncer
23-01-2004, 10:03
Elephant wanted to charge me over a grand for my first insurance. I'm with AXA now (through RAC insurance) and it's £800 n odd. If I went direct to AXA they wanted to charge £1100 :loopy:

Weird or what!

jackthedog
23-01-2004, 10:06
D'you think your profession helps your claim Spook?
I should imagine your trained to a higher standard due to your work?

I'm thinking about trying the advanced driving test, i'm pretty confident that I'd do well.
Not just in an attempt to lower my insurance premium, but to improve my skills, which i'd like to do, and also to
distance myself from the boy racers as much as possible.

steelblade
23-01-2004, 10:12
I'm looking to get a Renault clio, possibly a 1.2 around an N reg.

I did an online quote with www.budgetinsurance.com and they would want £408 fully comp with a £100 excess.

Elephant would want £481 with £250 excess.

jackthedog
23-01-2004, 10:21
I wish I was in that sort of bracket.
I think I come under "serious risk of causing world catastrophe when behind wheel. Charge no less that £stratospheric"

Please, insurers, believe me when I say - no fibreglass will be stuck on my car. No 500,000,000 watt stereo. No 47" alloy wheels. No dinner-plate sized exhausts. No fake bonnet vents.

I'm gonna commute in it. See mates in it. Go on holiday in it. Take my mum to the shops in it.
Not use it to go 'cruising'. Not use it to do donuts in the local Morrisons. Not to test the standing quarter mile at every traffic light change.

I just want a decent car to use as a normal car.

max
23-01-2004, 10:50
Now that's what I call a boy racer:

116mph in a 40mph zone (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_858576.html?menu=)

From the pages of Ananova
Teenager charged with driving at 116mph in 40mph zone

A teenage motorist has been ordered to appear in court to face charges of driving at 116mph in a 40mph zone.

James Green, 18, is alleged to have driven at almost three times the speed limit in Thorns Road, Quarry Bank, Dudley, West Midlands, last July.

The defendant, of Netherton, Dudley, was ordered to appear in court on February 6 after a brief hearing at Halesowen Magistrates' Court.

Green, who is charged with speeding and dangerous driving, was allegedly "monitored" by West Midlands Police driving a car at 116mph shortly before 10pm on July 6.

jackthedog
23-01-2004, 10:54
I cant even believe that. That should be a lifetime ban and a jail sentence.

That disgusts me.

cazzaworld
23-01-2004, 11:31
Boy Racers are pathetic losers and their 'modified' cars are absolutely hideous!!!!!!

Sam Miguel
23-01-2004, 11:41
I'm not trying to defend the lad, you understand, but do you think he might just have absent-mindedly taken his eyes off the speedometer?

jackthedog
23-01-2004, 12:26
Yeah Sam, it's possible I suppose! We all accidently exceed the limit by a few MHP occasionally... :D

And, Cazza, good point well said.

Jon
23-01-2004, 18:05
:confused: http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1359&highlight=joyriders don't people check anymore to see if the topic has been done before??????;)

Skatiechik
23-01-2004, 20:30
Joyriders are completely different to Boyracers.

Joyracers steal cars and drive them at fast speeds for a laugh

BoyRacers/Chavs own their cars, normally ****ty novas or corsa's and devalue them by sticking tacky bits of plastic on them, and believe they make their car faster by putting an oversize exhaust on.

By the way, don't see how people pay so much for insurance, I have never ever paid over £500 and I am still only 23.

Skatie

Sam Miguel
23-01-2004, 20:50
About £200 quid's my tops, but then again I am almost old and I drive a Micra.

Jon
23-01-2004, 20:55
Originally posted by Skatiechik
Joyriders are completely different to Boyracers.

Joyracers steal cars and drive them at fast speeds for a laugh

BoyRacers/Chavs own their cars, normally ****ty novas or corsa's and devalue them by sticking tacky bits of plastic on them, and believe they make their car faster by putting an oversize exhaust on.

By the way, don't see how people pay so much for insurance, I have never ever paid over £500 and I am still only 23.

Skatie http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1359&highlight=joyriders it says Joyriders & Boyracers try reading it :thumbsup: BTW i didn't add "try reading it" it was written by a MOD thanks for making me sound like i was being rude to skatie :rant:

fredsredhat
23-01-2004, 21:10
i'm 24. i drive a 1992 1.1 fiesta (capable of about 90mph, just) it costs me £400 ish TPFT with 4 yrs no claims. i ride a yr 2000 160mph bike 2 yrs no claims £260. make sense of that!!!!!!

Lickszz
28-01-2004, 00:56
Originally posted by steelblade
I'm looking to get a Renault clio, possibly a 1.2 around an N reg.

I did an online quote with www.budgetinsurance.com and they would want £408 fully comp with a £100 excess.

Elephant would want £481 with £250 excess.

Have you tried http://www.confused.com

They managed to find me a quote £150 cheaper than my renewal.

Lickszz
28-01-2004, 00:57
Threads merged.

gizmo
28-01-2004, 08:22
I watched a documentry about a group of joyriders that got to go on a trip on quad bikes in the sahara,all paid for by us the tax payer of course.another group got to go to the monaco grand prix.

so i got to thinking,maybe some of us should get together to start nicking cars and causing a riot on our streets,cos im sure its this overwhelming desire to go to the south of france that will be the cause of our wayward tendencies.

jackthedog
28-01-2004, 08:23
Good idea gizmo.