Hi

Does anyone know of anywhere that teaches Wing Chun.

Thanks

Again, This topic has been brought up on several occasions.

A simply search might help.

When you do that search - try Win Chun cos that's the correct name :P

Chinese community centre, London rd. £5 a session Mon, Wed & Fri 5-7.

Stifu William, dont let that put you off (he is a Chinese dude). Apparently he's very good. Trained with a master in Hong Kong for 7 years!

Try his web site for more info:

http://www.geocities.com/williamlaiwingchun/

is it a hard language to learn:)

a mate of mine has been going to the london road one for years. The guy is supposed to be really good, but they do take it pretty seriously there. There's 3 classes a week and he likes you to attend all of them and put in a good hours training every night. I know a few people that started there but found it too intense and a bit expensive

correct or not, wing chun is the spelling most commonly used (a quick search of the book on amazon will verify this), so you'll probably get the best results in searches.

lessons at the chinese community centre are mon, wed, fri, 17:30-19:00 and cost £5 per session.

Sifu Lai is an excellent teacher and his requirements are clearly stated on his website. Progress can be slow (obviously depending on your ability), but intense is not a word i'd use to describe it. the atmsophere is very relaxed and friendly and it's well worth taking a look.

By intense i meant that with a couple of them he appeared to use the breaking them down to build them up again method which i know a couple of my mates couldnt hack, but i do know others who go there and love it.

I attended Sifu Lai's class for the first time tonight, and I saw no evidence of anything like that. It was, on the whole, a very friendly affair, and quite laid back in terms of atmosphere.

Originally posted by TimofDeath
I attended Sifu Lai's class for the first time tonight, and I saw no evidence of anything like that. It was, on the whole, a very friendly affair, and quite laid back in terms of atmosphere.

Can you comment a bit more about what his class was like? I really want to join but there's a lot of things I need to know first such as "is there a lot of people who attend?" "Is the class for the more atheletic person?" etc etc

I've not long got out of hospital in which I had major operations & lost a lot of weight from being in intensive care. I want to get fit but I don't want to over do it either as I now weigh next to nothing & have no muscle whatsoever.

Thanks

Sparklesista x x

Well, I walked in to find a very quiet room with a couple of people practising the forms, then Sifu showed me the first three stages of the first form, Sil Lim Tao (or however you want to spell it). This involves adopting the horse stance and performing a sequence of hand and arm movements. Sifu showed me the moves enough times for me to be able to practice them on my own, then went on to show the other students (most of who seemed far more advanced than me) various techniques. It is not a punishing work out, but the stance works your legs and I'm feeling it a little in my arms now too. It is exercise, but it's not intense. It's certainly worth trying, and it'd be nice to have another total beginner in there!

I'm from the opposite end of the spectrum to you, I weigh about 16st and couldn't cope with anything too punishing for that reason, although I am reasonably fit for my weight, and I didn't have a problem with it at all.

Thanks for that! I guess I just needed a bit of reassurance! I might see u there in the near future! :thumbsup:

I can agree, Sifu Lai is a v good teacher. I would suggest doing some research before you attend the class, as you will be practising Siu Nim Tau for about five months. HERE (http://www.hchwingchun.com.au/gallery.htm) are some videos of the forms. In Sifu Lai's class the forms are practised in the same manner and at the same speed as in the videos. The class is very relaxed and you do not have to do any exercise, but as mentioned previously you will need to start to be able to hold the horse stance for a considerable length of time to strengthen you legs and your structure.

Just to let you all know of a new wing chun class started in Dinnington on a Saturday morning.

Aktars in Rotherham town centre also do wing chun

Or how about Ving Tsun? That's how they spell it in Hong Kong and that's where it comes from.

http://www.vingtsun.org.hk/

Ving Tsun / Wing Chun

Different associations spell it different ways it makes them stand out from one another.

Sifu Lung Ting spells it Ving Tsun
Sifu Sam Kwok spells it Wing Chun

If you move around allot that’s when the spelling helps, but only in letting you know what lineage they are from (but sometimes that isn’t always the case).

Don’t get to hung up on the spelling go and have a go thats what i say.

Anyone know where their are Wing Chun classes in Sheffield?
If you know days and times of adult classes that would also be a bonus :thumbsup:

Dunno the times but I believe the Chinese Community Centre on London Road does em.

They do Wing Chun at the Chinese Community Centre on Saturday evenings i think, 6.00-7.30pm.

There's also another place on Carlisle Street and i believe another at Ponds Forge, but i'm afraid i don't know the details of those. I do know however that a very different interpretation of Wing Chun is taught at each club so you might want to visit each (assuming you get the times!) and see what meets your needs.

The Wing Chun at the Chinese Community Centre focuses very much on forms and relaxation and is taught by Sifu William Lai (a link to his web site can be found elsewhere on here). It's quite slow and not for everyone, but Sifu Lai was taught in Hong Kong and as far as lineage goes he is second to none in the local area.

i don't know much about the other places, but i do know that what is taught is very different (i believe the place at ponds forge does lots of fitness work - this isn't touched on by Sifu Lai).

DaBouncer
you can find wing chun also in Rotherham, worksop and Dinnington.

Yes, Sifu William Lai trains on every Saturdays at 6-7.30pm.

He trains students according to his/her mastery of skills at every levels. It all depends on students' diligency, determination and persevance in training.

Some clubs, perhaps for economic reasons, teach students all the forms and techniques in a short period and ask students to do fitness exercise in the class in order to retain their interest.

On the contrary, as I understand, Sifu Lai does not earn his living by training students and it is his belief that success in mastery of Wing Chun is by proper training. Anyone who is interested in Wing Chun should read his training programme at his site www.wingchun.me.uk or www.geocities.com/williamlaiwingchun

Someone told me that there is a club in London where you can be trained as a instructor in one year. Too commercial!!

Some of you know that Wing Chun comes from Hong Kong where all the most senior masters reside. They incorporated Ving Tsun Althletic Association to regulate Wing Chun practitioners all over the world. So please check whether the sifu whom you want to train with is recognised by the Association. It is going to hold a world conference in this November in Hong Kong. You can visit its site by clicking the link at Sifu Lai's site for information.

I trust the above information is helpful.


Sleepingcat

Originally posted by sleepingcat
Yes, Sifu William Lai trains on every Saturdays at 6-7.30pm.

He trains students according to his/her mastery of skills at every levels. It all depends on students' diligency, determination and persevance in training.
Sleepingcat

...and ability to relax in the shoulder area, which some people might find especially hard (dependent on their physical ability/history), no matter how diligent, determined and perservering they are... ;)

Anvil,

Relaxation in Wing Chun training is very important in order to master it. I agree that it is not easy to do so. To overcome this hurdle students need to train their minds to be calm and relax during training. When practising chi sau (sticking hands) students need to react with their feeling. Practise makes perfect!!!

It is human behaviour that you will automatically turn your hand to the right if someone push your hand to the left. You need to focus and set your mind that you will ignore this influence by moving your hand forward. It is a mental training.

If Wing Chun can be mastered easily then it is not a good skill.

Sleepingcat

Hi there DaBouncer, would you mind letting us know what classes you try and what you reckon to them?

i agree sleepingcat

what i'm saying is that as with all things, diligency, determination and perserverance alone will not guarantee you success. Other factors are also necessary, such as natural ability/talent.

Hi sleepingcat

As you seem to have some reasonable points on WC what’s your view on Chi Sau and how some clubs practice now.

Hi, Davemantis,

Sifu Lai has posted an article at the Martial Arts Planet regarding your request. Please click this link http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?p=632861#post632861

ANVIL,

Anyone with fit body and mind will be able to achieve it under a good sifu's training. Are you up to the challenage?

Sleepingcat

ANVIL,

Anyone with fit body and mind will be able to achieve it under a good sifu's training. Are you up to the challenage?

Sleepingcat [/B][/QUOTE]

1. Having a fit body is one thing - having a body fit for Wing Chun is another. Some people simply do not have the physical requirements to progress very far under Sifu Lai's training. He once spoke of a man who was heavily into weight training/bodybuilding and as a result he was not able to progress. This man obviously had a fit body, but it wasn't fit for Wing Chun (does a fit body and lots of training enable one to run 100m in less than 10 seconds? No, talent/natural ability is also necessary).

2. If you don't posses the natural ability/talent that is required to progress, the length of time that is involved it is simply not economic - the return you get on your time investment is negligible compared to other disciplines. I've studied Wing Chun under Sifu Lai and I worked very hard, putting in hours of training each week. However my progress was slow because I don't possess the ability that is required. This is illustrated by the fact that other students easily equalled and surpassed my level of skill in a much shorter duration. It is mathematically impossible for those people to have trained for more hours - they simply had more ability than me.

This then begs the question 'how long do I continue to invest so much time for so little reward?'. If Wing Chun was the only effective martial art then maybe I'd have continued for longer, but it isn't the only effective martial art and I've since found that my attributes are more suited to other disciplines. I studied for 2 years under Sifu Lai and i enjoyed it while it lasted, but I'm making much more progress in the discipline that i'm currently studying than I did in Wing Chun - this isn't because my current discipline is easier or a lesser skill, I'm simply more suited to it.

ANVIL,

Points taken, all the best to your training.


Sleepingcat:)

Originally posted by littleidea
Hi there DaBouncer, would you mind letting us know what classes you try and what you reckon to them?

Hi, DaBouncer,

I wonder if you are ready to reply Little Idea's question. It is interested to know what your comments are? You started the thread and I suppose you will finish it off.

Sleepingcat

Is any one interested in getting together for an informal chi sau practice??????????? i was thinking of all abilities welcome.

Originally posted by sleepingcat
Hi, DaBouncer,

I wonder if you are ready to reply Little Idea's question. It is interested to know what your comments are? You started the thread and I suppose you will finish it off.

Sleepingcat
Hiya mate,

Not been to any classes yet due to time constraints.
As soon as I do, I will of course post here to let people know.

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by Davemantis
Is any one interested in getting together for an informal chi sau practice??????????? i was thinking of all abilities welcome.

Hi Davemantis,

i am a kean student (and instructor) of wing chun if there is any chi sau practice sessions going on i'd be up for coming along. i have just moved to sheffield centre + have car. cheers.

Joe ( jblackler23@hotmail.co.uk )

cool Joe


I know of another that is interested so ill keep you informed.

Wing chun classes for them that want to train over the festive time are on Xmas Eave and New Years Eave in Dinington

Does anyone knmow the contact details for the Wing Chun place on Carlisle Street in Sheffield.

Or where can anyone recommend going?

Does anyone know or attend Wing Chun classes in Sheffield? Im interested in learning so if you have any info Id be grateful. Thanks! :thumbsup:

hi, i go to two wing chun classes in shef: monday eve with joe blacker endcliffe park during summer. sat morning with davemantis in dinnington. think there might still be a group in attercliffe with richard baines( maybe check samuel kwok wing chun assoc website as richard is affiliated).

sifu william lai @ chinese community centre, saturday evenings i think. he has a web site (search wing chun posts on the forum) - check out his lineage, worth a look if you're interested in wing chun.