Right,
This is really gettingon my nerves now... this debate has been going on since the advert came out but i just want to know peoples opinions rather than something they found on a google...
In the Zaphira advert where the parents drop the crockery the kids say either:
"Oh, They're Tired..."
or
"Overtired"

Which is it?
Come on!!! Someone!

Have Vauxhall brought out a new model? Zaphira?

It's over tired if I remember correctly :)

Zaphira must be the new improved Zafira... can't wait to see it.

"overtired" with a meaningful look ... like the oldies say about grizzling littlies ...

Overtired - same as me. Having a grump at bigflesh posting twice over a simple mistake.

I thought it was 'Oh, they're tired'

Any lipreaders out there? :D

Definitely overtired. The whole (crap) ad-campaign is based on kids repeating typical adult phrases (see also: l'ook at her little face light up'). Overtired is something parents of young kids would relate to, whenever they throw a tantrum after a long day. I doubt the three kids going, 'oh! they're tired' in unison like a trio of pre-teen drag queens is something your average parent would relate to.

From Vauxhall. (someone on another forum emailed 'em)

Dear Mr ****,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding the recent Vauxhall Zafira TV advert.

As requested, I can confirm the last word in the advert is 'over tired'. I
trust this resolves your query, however, should you require any further
information, please do not hesitate to contact us again on 01582 427200, or
by return e-mail.

Thank you again for contacting us and allowing me the opportunity to
comment.

Yours sincerely

Rob John
Customer Care Team

From Vauxhall. (someone on another forum emailed 'em)

Dear Mr ****,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding the recent Vauxhall Zafira TV advert.

As requested, I can confirm the last word in the advert is 'over tired'. I
trust this resolves your query, however, should you require any further
information, please do not hesitate to contact us again on 01582 427200, or
by return e-mail.

Thank you again for contacting us and allowing me the opportunity to
comment.

Yours sincerely

Rob John
Customer Care Team

After this arose on another forum I frequent, I posed the question to the ad agency responsible for the making of the ad and received in reply the rather terse e-mailed response...

'overtired'

... HTH

Well, you live and learn. As I'd never heard anyone - adult or youth - use the word 'overtired' in my life, "tired" usually being sufficient, I assumed it was 'Oh, they're tired'. I've learned something today.

BTW, thank you Bigflesh for pointing out my rather terrible spelling mistake...
We can all sleep well tonight.
:)

Definitely overtired. The whole (crap) ad-campaign is based on kids repeating typical adult phrases (see also: l'ook at her little face light up'). Overtired is something parents of young kids would relate to, whenever they throw a tantrum after a long day. I doubt the three kids going, 'oh! they're tired' in unison like a trio of pre-teen drag queens is something your average parent would relate to.

I have to disagree. I often hear people remark, "Oh, they're tired" to the parents of young children who are throwing a hissy fit/crying for no reason. "Overtired" makes absolutely no sense at all. Why would you suddenly blurt out an adjective as though it were an inspired prognosis? Do you hear people exclaiming "hungry..." if a baby was crying, for instance? "Oh, she's hungry" or "oh, she's tired" or "oh, they're tired" makes much more sense. Especially since that's what they say!

[edit:] Regarding the expedient request made to Vauxhall, I sincerely doubt that Rob John of customer care ever spoke to his colleagues in marketing (since they all inhabit the underworld), and I also doubt that he cares. And I want to be right. And I've never heard anyone say, "overtired". But then again, I'm from West Yorkshire...

[edit part 2:] PLUS! If it was "overtired", then there's far too much stress placed on the first syllable, methinks.

umm ! i gotta admit i also thought they was saying ...." oh they're tired " ....:suspect:

I think its "Oh they're tired" as well. I think the intonation would be slightly different if it was overtired, well it is when I say it out loud to myself...Hmmm waiting for it to come on again now so I can have another listen:huh:

I think its "Oh they're tired" as well. I think the intonation would be slightly different if it was overtired, well it is when I say it out loud to myself...Hmmm waiting for it to come on again now so I can have another listen:huh:

ah...I've just added a reasoning to the same effect as yours, above. I didn't copy you. Promise. :D

OVERTIRED

as in going past the point you really should have had a sleep, and becoming rather iritable: - as a father of five kids, believe me it happens :D :o :|

It's overtired.

Sorry Bob!!!!

:hihi:

Have Vauxhall brought out a new model? Zaphira?

Hello bigflesh,
The latest model is still called ZAFIRA, there is no zaphira.
Sorry bigflesh, it was not you who said this, i have just read the page again .

Right,
This is really gettingon my nerves now... this debate has been going on since the advert came out but i just want to know peoples opinions rather than something they found on a google...
In the Zaphira advert where the parents drop the crockery the kids say either:
"Oh, They're Tired..."
or
"Overtired"
Which is it?
Come on!!! Someone!


Hya zingo,
The new car is called ZAFIRA NOT ZAPHIRA.

OVERTIRED

as in going past the point you really should have had a sleep, and becoming rather iritable: - as a father of five kids, believe me it happens :D :o :|

That doesn't explain why the intonation is completely bizarre for it to be "overtired", though. Surely, if any of your children were playing up after a long day, you would say, "Oh, they're tired". Why would you say "overtired" - you might think it, of course - but surely you're more likely to speak a phrase rather than a single word?

That doesn't explain why the intonation is completely bizarre for it to be "overtired", though. Surely, if any of your children were playing up after a long day, you would say, "Oh, they're tired". Why would you say "overtired" - you might think it, of course - but surely you're more likely to speak a phrase rather than a single word?

In your mind maybe - you need to bear in mind though, that you weren't aware of the phrase before this discussion (I think!).

I was, and have heard it said numerous times before, which is why I'm inclined to believe overtired is the phrase from the advert.

The fact that you discounted the only evidence provided, and that Zingo conveniently forgot to mention the evidence he acquired in the pub last night (which caused him to walk out in a huff!!!!) would suggest you're not open to having your mind changed, regardless of what is said here.

Perhaps you're overtired....;)

That doesn't explain why the intonation is completely bizarre for it to be "overtired", though. Surely, if any of your children were playing up after a long day, you would say, "Oh, they're tired". Why would you say "overtired" - you might think it, of course - but surely you're more likely to speak a phrase rather than a single word?

Also - why would you be more inclined to say a phrase rather than a word? Especially if it's just you and the kids. It's an exclamation.

Perhaps you're overtired...
Indeed I am overtired. Of course I've heard of the word before, just never in that context. Whereas I've heard many a parent exclaim, "oh, they're tired" when their child is acting up, I've never heard anyone randomly say "overtired" in that type of situation. I'd probably be suspicious that they were actually some form of android.

I have said "oh they're tired"
I have said "They're overtired"
I have said "They're past tired now"
but I have never said "overtired" as a single word.:confused:

Unless.........the're are some people that can't/don't sound their "th's" but then, would it sound like a V?
Oh flip, I wish it would come on again soon.:hihi:

i am genuinely confounded that anyone thinks it is anything other than "over tired".. the intonation and cadence seems perfectly suited to an exclamation such as this, as well :confused:

but I have never said "overtired" as a single word.:confused:

that's because there is, to my knowledge, no such word as "overtired".. doesn't change the fact that the kids in this advert are obviously saying "over tired"..

I was firmly in the "oh, they're tired" camp.


I stand corrected.
(said the man in the orthopaedic shoe)

that's because there is, to my knowledge, no such word as "overtired".. doesn't change the fact that the kids in this advert are obviously saying "over tired"..

Oh dear, hermes. Here (http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dict&freesearch=overtired&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact) it is in The Oxford English dictionary. It means 'exhausted'.

They still don't say it though.

Oh dear, hermes. Here (http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dict&freesearch=overtired&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact) it is in The Oxford English dictionary. It means 'exhausted'.

They still don't say it though.

Of course they don't....and your proof is...?!?!

If someone's starving, you don't say they're 'overhungry', or if they're parched, you don't say they're 'overthirsty', so I don't believe that it's 'overtired' - despite those spurious claims to have received information from Vauxhall ;)

OVERTIRED!

Thread Hijack - Now the Vimto advert: -

Daft pants in the middle of his robe, or, Dad's pants in the middle of his robe

If someone's starving, you don't say they're 'overhungry', or if they're parched, you don't say they're 'overthirsty', so I don't believe that it's 'overtired' - despite those spurious claims to have received information from Vauxhall ;)

Ask AQA dude, see what they say....and we've already proved it's exsistance as a word - AND it's relevance.

OVERTIRED!

Thread Hijack - Now the Vimto advert: -

Daft pants in the middle of his robe, or, Dad's pants in the middle of his robe


dads pants in the middle of his roll (rolled up towel).

If someone's starving, you don't say they're 'overhungry', or if they're parched, you don't say they're 'overthirsty', so I don't believe that it's 'overtired' - despite those spurious claims to have received information from Vauxhall ;)


just 'cos u don't use the word doesn't mean others don't.
and it is overtired i'm afraid.

Ask AQA dude, see what they say....and we've already proved it's exsistance as a word - AND it's relevance.

Not being funny, but I don't completely trust AQA. I don't trust Wikipedia, or any other encyclopaedia for that matter (due to the number of mistakes and non-facts they've published), so I'm not going to trust them.

And yes, the word may exist, but I've personally heard it said precisely zero times, so I'll stick to my belief that it's 'Oh, they're tired' thanks.

I like the adverts with the boys acting like adults - they make me laugh. I am sure I must have remarked "overtired" when hearing a child grizzling when it should have been in bed.

Dad's pants... another good one, but now I shall be singing that for the rest of the afternoon - thanks!

Oh dear, hermes.

hardly warrants an "oh dear".. i don't claim to be a walking dictionary, hence my inclusion of the disclaimer, "to my knowledge"..

They still don't say it though.

oh dear, defstef.

it's not really open for debate, as far as i'm concerned.. the cadence of the words isn't even nearly correct for them to be saying "oh, they're tired".. furthermore, if you actually watch the advert rather than just listening, you can quite clearly see their bottom lips curl in to meet their teeth as they make the "ver" sound of "over"..

Why are you arguing about this phrase? I think some of you must be overtired actually and should have been in bed hours ago ... or at least had an afternoon nap.

I really find it hard to believe that older people in your family have never used the saying :D Overexcited is an alternative .... ever heard that said? Overwrought is what older people get when they're overtired ;)

Why are you arguing about this phrase? I think some of you must be overtired actually and should have been in bed hours ago ... or at least had an afternoon nap.

I really find it hard to believe that older people in your family have never used the saying :D Overexcited is an alternative .... ever heard that said? Overwrought is what older people get when they're overtired ;)

But it isn't a saying. It's a word. I'm pretty sure that most of the English speaking members of my family would say "Oh...They're tired" or "they're overexcited" or "they're overwrought", no matter their age, as long as they're sane. Simply blurting out an adjective is quite clearly a symptom of progressive dementia.

The advert probably does say, "overtired". The Toms at Go magazine seem to think so. It doesn't really matter, though. Like this thread, it is utterly retarded.

. Like this thread, it is utterly retarded.

Oi, don't call my mother and granny retarded! how very dare you!! :o

Oi, don't call my mother and granny retarded! how very dare you!! :o

That wasn't a personal insult. I was generally agreeing with you that the thread is a waste of time. But, are you saying that your granny or mum would always avoid personal pronouns? If you and, say, a friend were getting giddy when you were little, surely they'd be just as likely to say "they're overexcited" to another adult?

(Granted, I can accept that they might just say "overexcited" in a kind of, 'you know what they're like when they get giddy' kind of way, but there is too much stress placed on the first syllable in the advert - the intonation is all wrong. It may be "overtired", but if it is, the delivery was so poor that I can only suggest that the child be made to live out his days making Asda George back-to-school items in a Vietnamese sweat shop. That's how bad it is.)

... furthermore, if you actually watch the advert rather than just listening, you can quite clearly see their bottom lips curl in to meet their teeth as they make the "ver" sound of "over"..
I'm sorry, I can't watch it, I really can't. That child has a stupid face.

Furthermore, my television set is covered in grease - so - no can do. Sorry.

Furthermore, my television set is covered in grease - so - no can do. Sorry.

That's really made me chuckle ..

No honestly, they would say it just like that "OVERtired" with a meaningful look at one another. Almost as though they thought we wouldn't know they meant us ...

That ad makes me smile everytime .. they're like two little old men. In fact the smaller one is even wearing one of those old men beige safari jackets! :D

No honestly, they would say it just like that "OVERtired" with a meaningful look at one another. Almost as though they thought we wouldn't know they meant us ...

this is what i can't understand.. to me, the cadence and intonation is perfect..

there are plenty of occasions when a simple, one word adjectival retort is used in colloquial parlance.. usually when two people are passing comment on a third party or situation.. two girls, for example, listening to a third bang on about her ex's new girlfriend might express their thoughts by rolling their eyes at each other and simply saying "jealous!"..

another common example would be two parents, observing their children being fussy, exchanging knowing glances before remarking "overtired".. oh, wai...

I'm sorry, I can't watch it, I really can't. That child has a stupid face.

you make a compelling argument :hihi:

Dont know about what they say but I know the father actor, he used to have a curry wagon on eastgate market in skeg. Immys his name

I doubt the three kids going, 'oh! they're tired' in unison like a trio of pre-teen drag queens is something your average parent would relate to.
Depending on what area you're from, and what the local stock phrases are :rolleyes:

From the horses mouth, oh there tired....

From the horses mouth, oh there tired....

Please don't start this off again ... it's "overtired"! End of!!

And even if it wasn't, your version would be be "Oh, they're tired" :rolleyes: