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Ark-Seven 03-07-2004, 07:06 PM As a Photographer and some what of a film maker Id be interested to know about any abandoned Hospitals or such buildings i know of the middlewood hospital and the Wharncliffe one. From my point of view there seems to be some confusion as to which one has been converted. As far as i know there were 2 hospitals about a mile apart. Wharncliffe was merely a nervous hospital while middlewood was for much more serious cases. Middlewood was apparently set back into some woods and along a lane behind high walls i've heard. ive read the other threads concerning this but they dont seem to asnwer my questions. Please, can any one help?
Plain Talker 03-07-2004, 07:27 PM the two hospitals were nearer to each other than that.
I nursed briefly, at middlewood in the years before it closed, though my main places of work were at St Josephs at Walkley and at Lightwood, at Norton.
Also, you might be confusing the original name of Middlewood hospital ("Wadsley Asylum") with the actual Wharncliffe hospital. which was more or less beside (well as near as "dammit") the Asylum.
The whole of the Middlewood hospital site was earmarked for development, some of the magnificent hospital buildings have been converted, whilst a lot of the more "modern" wards (which were dotted around independently) were demolished to make way for the "prestigious housing" of Kingswood Park. (i think that's the name of the development, named for one of the wards)
Now, part of my memories are foggy on this one. I can't quite remember whether it was called "Wharncliffe" or "Wharncliffe Side" hosp.
It (the Wharncliffe Hospital) had orthopaedic wards, similar to "King Teds"-King Edward viii, orthopaedic hosp, at Rivelin (I remember this from my childhood, visiting my mothers father when he was in for some orthopaedic operation) , it was not a "mental" hospital or for those who suffered "nerves". the mental health services were all concentrated within the one site, at middlewood then.
there might have been a Ward, there, named Wharncliffe, in the latter years, (I think there actually was) and, indeed the less severe cases might have been placed on this ward, but, no, it was, most definitely two seperate hospitals.
I certainly remember being taken there as a tot, in the August of 1966 to visit my grandpa. I caused uproar and great hilarity because I asked my grandpa, in front of virtually the whole ward, where __"his"___ new baby was.
My mother had, literally, only just come home from the (old) Jessop Hospital, having given birth to my younger sister, a week or so prior to this incident, and, I suppose, quite logically, (for an "almost-three-year-old") I had made a connection between going into hospital and coming home with a baby(!!!!)
well, it raised a laugh amongst the people who were there, anyway.
lol
PT
Greybeard 03-07-2004, 11:06 PM Nether Edge Hospital ? Hasn't that been closed in recent times ?
Haven't been in that part of town for several years.
Plain Talker 04-07-2004, 01:10 AM yes, nether edge has gone the same way as "king teds", Middlewood and Lodge Moor Hospitals...
It's all been sold off to developers, for housing and such like.
I am pretty sure that the old Jessops will go the same way.
it's sad
PT
Originally posted by Plain Talker
yes, nether edge has gone the same way as "king teds", Middlewood and Lodge Moor Hospitals...
It's all been sold off to developers, for housing and such like.
I am pretty sure that the old Jessops will go the same way.
it's sad
PT
Not forgetting The Royal Infirmary on Infrimary Road now Safeways (sorry, Morrisons) and The Royal on West Street.
Plain Talker 04-07-2004, 01:31 AM Originally posted by max
Not forgetting The Royal Infirmary on Infrimary Road now Safeways (sorry, Morrisons) and The Royal on West Street.
Of course! I was wracking my brains trying to think of other former hospital sites that had been developed, becaue i knew for a fact that there were more than I had named in my post above, and could not, for the life of me, remember those two. I am ashamed of myself, as my office window looks out onto the former royal hospital, for crying out loud!
(PT blushes, furiously, and retreats, to just, erm, sit quietly in a corner ,with her colouring book and crayons! :lol: )
PT
Originally posted by Plain Talker
Of course! I was wracking my brains trying to think of other former hospital sites that had been developed, becaue i knew for a fact that there were more than I had named in my post above, and could not, for the life of me, remember those two. I am ashamed of myself, as my office window looks out onto the former royal hospital, for crying out loud!
(PT blushes, furiously, and retreats, to just, erm, sit quietly in a corner ,with her colouring book and crayons! :lol: )
PT
Sorry about that, throw away your pretty things and rejoin the human race.:D
My Grandfather Christopher Smart was a patient at Middlewood hospital. He had survived four years at the front in France during World War 1, and had come home shell shocked, what is called combat fatigue today. What couldn't have helped much was that his wife died in 1916 leaving a family of six children in the care of the oldest girl, sixteen years old. Compassionate leave was denied in those heartless days. Though I was only eight when he died I can recall the hospital grounds as very like a park. The hospital was also used to house wounded soldiers in WW2
Originally posted by Plain Talker
yes, nether edge has gone the same way as "king teds", Middlewood and Lodge Moor Hospitals...
It's all been sold off to developers, for housing and such like.
I am pretty sure that the old Jessops will go the same way.
it's sad
PT Jessops now belongs to the University. It won't have housing on it.
Highnote 04-07-2004, 12:44 PM There used to be a hospital near Weston Park,between Bolsover St and Crookesmoor Rd, known as"Winter St" where all the tuberculosis patients went,and in my younger days whenever it was said someone had "gone in to Winter St",that was like a death sentence,is it still there,?.
Plain Talker 04-07-2004, 01:15 PM Originally posted by buck
My Grandfather Christopher Smart was a patient at Middlewood hospital. He had survived four years at the front in France during World War 1, and had come home shell shocked, what is called combat fatigue today. What couldn't have helped much was that his wife died in 1916 leaving a family of six children in the care of the oldest girl, sixteen years old. Compassionate leave was denied in those heartless days. Though I was only eight when he died I can recall the hospital grounds as very like a park. The hospital was also used to house wounded soldiers in WW2
My grandmother's mother was an inpatient at Middlewood for many, many years, from the early 1920's. when my grandmother and her older brother were only about four/five years old.
She suffered from puerperal psychosis, which was then called "milk fever".
it is a condition closely related to PND (Post Natal Depression) but it is worse, because the person becomes "delusional", as it is not jsut the normal, hormonal, "post-baby blues".
horror-part follows, do NOT read on if of a nervous type
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my great grandmother, under the influence of the delusions, was convinced that the new baby was a piece of coal.
She put the baby on the fire, in this delusional state.
The baby, sadly, died of its injuries.
My grandmother told this piece of family history to me, almoast 70 years after the event, and she was still traumatised by it.
She had often spoken, when I was a child, about being brought up with the help of her aunt and uncle. I had wondered why this had been so, and when she related this to me, it all sloted into place, and finally made sense.
PT
Plain Talker 04-07-2004, 01:19 PM Originally posted by Harlan
There used to be a hospital near Weston Park,between Bolsover St and Crookesmoor Rd, known as"Winter St" where all the tuberculosis patients went,and in my younger days whenever it was said someone had "gone in to Winter St",that was like a death sentence,is it still there,?.
Yes, it still exists.
It was, indeed, an isolation hospital, for tuberculosis (TB) patients
in the 70's, it became a geriatric specialty place, then, when it closed down as that, it became the offices for the midwifery dept, IIRC.
It is still offices, it is no longer wards.
PT
mojoworking 04-07-2004, 01:31 PM Originally posted by max
Not forgetting The Royal Infirmary on Infrimary Road now Safeways (sorry, Morrisons) and The Royal on West Street.
Here's an interesting (if off-topic) fact about the Royal Infirmary. In the early 50s, Paul McCartney was on a weekend outing with the Boy Scouts in the Hathersage area. While there he fell and broke his arm and was brought to The Infirmary to be patched up before going back to Liverpool.
Not a lot of people know that! :)
Yorkie 05-07-2004, 07:57 AM Originally posted by Ark-Seven
As a Photographer and some what of a film maker, I'd be interested to know about any abandoned Hospitals or such buildings.
Please, can any one help?
There is the little known Hallwood Isolation Hospital near Grenoside. In fact the Grenoside History Society is currently asking if anyone has any info on the place.
Click Here for The Grenoside History Society (http://www.grenosidelocalhistory.co.uk/meetings.htm)
The old hospital is on the main A61 Penistone Road, between Grenoside and High Green. It is not far from the junction with Hall Wood Road, which is an extension of Burncross Road that comes up from Chapeltown.
Janet Olsen 05-07-2004, 12:18 PM I used to work on the reception & switchboard at Middlewood hospitals back in the 60's. The two hospials were in the same grounds & used the same switchboards etc: The Middlewood hospital was the mentally disturbed side & Wharncliffe was a general hospital & I believe at one stage there was considered one of the best burns hospitals around. My mother also worked there as a nurse for about 25 years & worked at both Middlewood & Wharncliffe she did general nursing first at Wharncliffe & then transferred over to Middlewood a psychiatric nurse(think Ihave spelt that incorrectly. It used to be a great place to work.
There was also the Whiteley Wood Clinic in Fulwood which was a specialist burns unit. (No jokes about timorous beasties please). Now apartments - surprise, suprise.
Plain Talker 05-07-2004, 05:51 PM Originally posted by max
There was also the Whiteley Wood Clinic in Fulwood which was a specialist burns unit. (No jokes about timorous beasties please). Now apartments - surprise, suprise.
Whiteley Woods, for some years housed a residential hospital and outpatients dept for people with mental illnesses.
One friend of mine was being treated there for a nervous breakdown after her granny passed away, and she sadly committed suicide, just days before her 22nd birthday. THat was a horrrific time.
Apparently what is left, these days, of the clinic, treats people who have gender disorders.
If I recall correctly, there was also an annexe, to Jessop's hospital, which was on Matthews lane, at Norton, just behind Oakes Park school, not far from the water tower.
I understand that this land is also now redeveloped into housing .......
PT
Whiteley Woods is now apartments PT.
Yorkie 05-07-2004, 08:38 PM Many hospitals started out as Workhouses.
Some local information is available if you click the following link then click England then Yorkshire, West Riding > Sheffield and Ecclesall Bierlow:
the following link (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/index.html)
tosh13 05-07-2004, 09:02 PM I used to go to whiteley woods special school 1968 due to a childhood disability,I had calipers on my legs & other schools would not accept disabled children back then,Newfield & Annes Road school,I went to whiteley woods for about 9 months & I was discharged by the childrens hospital & then I went to Newfield.I remember a school just down the road mainly for downs syndrome kids I think it was called Bents Green.
Plain Talker 05-07-2004, 11:31 PM Originally posted by tosh13
I used to go to whiteley woods special school 1968 due to a childhood disability,I had calipers on my legs & other schools would not accept disabled children back then,Newfield & Annes Road school,I went to whiteley woods for about 9 months & I was discharged by the childrens hospital & then I went to Newfield.I remember a school just down the road mainly for downs syndrome kids I think it was called Bents Green.
I know what you mean, tosh; there are still some schools which won't entertain a kid with a disability. In this day and age it is horrendous.
I know that not every child with a disability, particularly those with a severe learning disability, will benefit from inclusion in mainstream schooling. (often they might not be able to cope without the one-to-one intensive attention they need in the mainstream.) but i think that those kids who could benefit from it, ought to be able to.
Bents Green was a fantastic school, my sister went there because of her learning disabilities, it was just up the hill from Whiteley Woods, at Ringinglow, opposite the fire station.
The headmaster, Mr Bailey, was a giant of a man, both in stature and in heart and almost to a child, there, at that school was universally loved. Every child used to clamour for a hug from this great, cuddly bear of a man, before going into class.
This school did wonders for my sister and her learning disabilities, helping and encouraging her, and helping her reach standards which the doctors who dismissed her as a toddler would have been astounded at. She did so well, thanks to the school, that she is now married with three gorgeous children, and she and her husband own their own home.
The school was originally an Open-Air School, intended to be a healthy outdoor school to "build-up" the health of "frail", "sickly", ill, or disabled children, (eg those with asthma etc) the student base was not that strongly geared to Downs Syndrome, there might have been at most, half a dozen kids with DS there during the time my sister was there, (early 1970's, to 1982) the school took kids with physical disabilities, as well as learning difficulties. some were severe, others not so severe.
PT
Chris M 07-07-2004, 12:11 PM Fulwood Hospital - was empty for several years before it
was sold to developers - and is now a "luxury complex".
The views over the Mayfield Valley are superb from the
front of the building.
It was originally an annexe for the old Royal Hospital on West St.
I think it specialised in plasic surgery .
I also recall that Phil Oakey (Human League) worked as a porter
there.
Tom Bailey of the Thompson Twins worked at Middlewood Hosp -
in the stores during the summer hols.
Cheers
Hi,
There seems to be a bit of confusion.
The Royal Hospital Annex (or Fulwood Hospital Annex) on Fulwood Road was at one point a specialist burns unit. It was used as an NHS store before being converted to flats and houses a few years ago. Now it's called Mayfield Heights and has lovely views over the Porter Valley - you'd have to be a contortionist to see the Mayfield Valley from there!
Whiteley Wood Clinic (originally, I believe, called the Woofinden Institute) was a mental health clinic until quite recently. It has just been converted to flats. If anyone knows anything about the early history of the building, I'd be interested.
The Whitley Wood Open Air School (for "weakly" children) was on Cottage Lane, quite near the current fire station on Ringinglow Road. It was opened in 1910 and I have a photocopy of the Annual Report of the School Medical Officer for 1910/11, which runs to several pages and includes a plan of the building and some photos of the children. The latest reference I have is from the 1935 Annual Report.
Plain Talker 27-08-2004, 09:36 PM Originally posted by Chris M
I also recall that Phil Oakey (Human League) worked as a porter
there.
Tom Bailey of the Thompson Twins worked at Middlewood Hosp -
in the stores during the summer hols.
Cheers
Tom Bailey taught music at Brook School, Stradbroke, IIRC
PT
Originally posted by Plain Talker
Whiteley Woods, for some years housed a residential hospital and outpatients dept for people with mental illnesses.
One friend of mine was being treated there for a nervous breakdown after her granny passed away, and she sadly committed suicide, just days before her 22nd birthday. THat was a horrrific time.
Apparently what is left, these days, of the clinic, treats people who have gender disorders.
If I recall correctly, there was also an annexe, to Jessop's hospital, which was on Matthews lane, at Norton, just behind Oakes Park school, not far from the water tower.
I understand that this land is also now redeveloped into housing .......
PT
Also on the land on Matthew's Lane where a housing estate now stands, there used to be Gleadless Valley Secondary school, mine and DaBouncer's old school.
Best thing they ever did knocking that place down, it were a right dump! :lol:
katrina 01-10-2004, 12:06 AM does anyone have any information of shrewsbury hospital or what area it was in, just curious.
nsiebert 01-10-2004, 11:45 AM I used to spend one afternoon a week at Middlewood Hospital as part of a Social Studies course at school, I did another year at the Northern General Hospital, just helping in the wards,
I remember always being frightened of the people lying around the grounds and the corriders, and we would be locked into the wards.
That was from 1972-1974, sometimes we just spent time in the Geriatric area, but sometimes in the wards.
I think people are more aware of mental illness now and understand the problems more.
Plain Talker 01-10-2004, 11:47 AM Originally posted by katrina
does anyone have any information of shrewsbury hospital or what area it was in, just curious.
Shrewsbury Hospital still exixts, katrina.
It is a group of alms houses, which are situated on norfolk road (IIRC) opposite where the high-rise flats are being demolished above the Sheffield railway station.
It is not a "hospital" per-se, it is nore like the "chelsea hospital" in london, where the chelsea-pensioners live."
The land came from the dukes of norfolk, I believe.
PT
Timbuck 01-10-2004, 12:08 PM My Grand Mother told me that Shiregreen School on Bracken Rd/Windmill lane, used to be a Hostpital in the early 1900's.
poppins 05-10-2004, 04:53 PM My mother was a nurse at Middlewood Mental hospital in the late 40s and 50s, i remember her telling us they took care of all the shell shocked soldiers, engish and german.
So they could tell the difference the germans were given red blankets.
Also would anyone know back in those days why the nurses had to be single, no married women, also the nurses were not aloud the have their photos taken in uniform.
Would be interesting to know the reason why these rules had to be followed, i'm sure it was a good one whaterver it was.
poppins.
Dude111 28-12-2008, 07:08 AM This abandoned hospital is claimed to be haunted!!
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini.cgi?membername=uxguy&tm=310
That is a live audio stream FROM INSIDE THE HOSPITAL!!
Heres a discussion site from the group running the stream
http://oklahomacityghostclub.yuku.com
Site to view cams in the hospital
http://www.researchwebcam.net
jomarch 28-12-2008, 09:58 AM There is the little known Hallwood Isolation Hospital near Grenoside. In fact the Grenoside History Society is currently asking if anyone has any info on the place.
Click Here for The Grenoside History Society (http://www.grenosidelocalhistory.co.uk/meetings.htm)
The old hospital is on the main A61 Penistone Road, between Grenoside and High Green. It is not far from the junction with Hall Wood Road, which is an extension of Burncross Road that comes up from Chapeltown.
I think this is the old smallpox isolation hospital. I was told about it during my nurse training in Sheffield in the late seventies.
Although smallpox was almost unheard of then, they still kept this place open in case of an outbreak. It was staffed by a couple who were paid to live there and keep the place ready for any emergency cases, but there were no medical staff and it wasn't open to the public. It closed when smallpox was declared officially eradicated - someone might know when this was- and I have no idea what happened to it or the old couple who staffed it.
Does anyone else know?
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