View Full Version : Laptops/Notebooks Vs Desktop PCs
Which and why?
Personally I prefer desktops overall, as they are easier to upgrade. My computer as it is now, whilst being the same actual PC as the one I bought 2 and a half years ago, has been upgraded and tinkered with so many times it is barely recognisable. All good fun, and stops the PC getting out of date. Laptops are very handy for being on the move though, and take up less space and less wires/plugs. I'm thinking of getting a laptop but I'm not sure if its worth it or not. Which do you prefer?
My younger cousin (he's 15) is desperate for a laptop. But I prefer the desktop (first time I agreed with you t020 all night!) Everything you can do on a laptop can be done on a desktop can't it? The only good thing about a laptop for me would be that it can be carried around. But even then you can't sit in the middle of the street and go directly online without a connection... can yer?
Chloé
Originally posted by "Chloe"
My younger cousin (he's 15) is desperate for a laptop. But I prefer the desktop (first time I agreed with you t020 all night!) Everything you can do on a laptop can be done on a desktop can't it? The only good thing about a laptop for me would be that it can be carried around. But even then you can't sit in the middle of the street and go directly online without a connection... can yer?
Chloé
Actually I think there is a way of going online with a laptop without being connected to a phone line. Not sure, but I think it involves a mobile phone.
Imagine the internet at 30p a min. Nice! Is that how it works, all you technology experts? Or am I completely wrong?
wi-fi technology (now installed in some welcome break service stations might i add) allows you to surf the net
I use a desktop, but bought a laptop and used it for a while before taking it back for a full refund... :D
Having tried both, I prefer the ergonomics of a desktop, the speed and the flexibility. The laptop lifestyle appeals to me though as I'd really like just to be able to pop my computer into a drawer and deny its existence.
What I want to try next is one of these new tablet pcs with the swivel screen that you can use like a conventional paper notebook.
To sum up, if I wasn't working in IT I'd have a laptop, but for now I'm stuck with a desktop.
kittykat 16-06-2003, 01:20 Laptops! I cant wait to get mine!!! This piece of crap desktop keeps crashing and it takes up loads of room. Itll be nice being able to sit downstairs watching TV with it and in bed and stuff. I know theyre more expensive but you can get them reasonable if you look around the net like i did. You can find some right beauties and you get to carry them round in a case wherever you go and not have to sit waiting for selfish uni students who are taking up all the computers to do your work. Yep - i cant wait for my laptop. :D
*Twinkle* 16-06-2003, 06:42 I opted for GNVQ science and we used laptops every lesson. We had little "cards" stuck out of the side of them which were our internet connection. All the laptops had to be in the classroom though, because there was some kind of box (don't know what it was for) that they all had to be near.
They were good, but when people didn't plug them in after use, they had a nasty habit of closing down just as you'd typed up a very important piece of work!
I'd guess the box they had to be near was a PC with the internet connection on it and the cards were wifi cards.
I'll stick with my desk tops, home & work. If I desperately need access then there's my wap phone or internet cafes.
If you do go down the laptop route I'd recommend a docking station at home which will give you all the convenience of both worlds.
Originally posted by "caprice"
I opted for GNVQ science and we used laptops every lesson. We had little "cards" stuck out of the side of them which were our internet connection. Now we know why the schools can't afford textbooks and teacher any more!
Originally posted by "kittykat"
This piece of crap desktop keeps crashing ... Yep - i cant wait for my laptop. :DThat could be something to do with the "quality" of Bill Gates' "great" software. You'll be running Linux on your laptop then?
PaulTansley 16-06-2003, 08:43 I have had a desk top and now i have a lap top.
For me the lap top is far better, its the space thing with me as theres no unsightly wires and i still connect it to my sound system and watch DVDs on it at work when i,m on nights.
I would,nt go back to the desk top.
I think the laptop is a trendy thing to have for the younger generation to have to.
I haven't really had much use of a Laptop, but I much prefer Desktop PC's from my experience. Laptop's were purely created for convenience more than anything I think..
Only buy a laptop if mobility is essential (and if it is essential have you considered using a PDA to supplement the desktop):
They cost more to buy - I know you can get some inexpensive ones now but that's because you are ignoring the compromises you made on speed, memory, disk, video and audio subsystems. Yes some do well in one or more of those respects but look at the big picture. Price up a desktop of the identical specification and I bet it's half the price.
They have a higher "cost of ownership" - expensive spares and repairs, batteries cost £50-£200 and can need replacing after as little as a year. And there's that problem people found when they first started selling TVs with built in VCR - if TV OR VCR broke then the whole unit was broken so needed replacing repair. If my VCR is broken I can still use my separate TV while it's at the repair-shop.
They are more susceptible to damage - well you're carrying it around, much more likely to get banged or dropped than desktop. Spill coffee in your desktop keyboard - ten quid for a cheap replacement. Same with a laptop? Ouch!
They are much more susceptible to loss/theft - Ever been mugged walking down the street with your desktop? Ever left it on the bus? Can a thief hide a stolen desktop under a large coat? or run down the street with it? But in any case they sometimes have the status almost of a "fashion accessory" making them a more desirable theft.
You have to accept some compromises on usability - You get the mouse pointer interface they give you, people get used to them but there is a common dislike for touchpad, trackball, mini-joystick. You get a compromised keyboard, small, poorer key-feel. You get poorer screen - small (unusual to be as large as 15inch) no height adjustment, tilt but no swivel - unless you swivel the whole laptop - which doesn't count in my book. You pay a big premium to get a light-weight model - and then find it's light because they didn't include the weight of the external mains adapter which you will sometimes need to take with you. The most common complaint amongst corporate users is weight, give them a lighter model with a smaller screen and very few complain about the screen (and you still get a few grumbles about the weight).
Compromised upgrade path - becoming less of an issue with USB devices but for example, PCMCIA cards are usually substantially more expensive than the equivalent PCI card and some functions you would provide with PCI are hard or impossible to find implemented as PCMCIA. It can cost more than you planned. Lets suppose you already have let's say, a flatbed scanner with SCSI interface. You buy a laptop and there's nowhere to put the old PCI scsi card - so you need to buy a PCMCIA scsi card (£30+) - oops wrong connector - find a converter (£10?). Discover that scanner or card isn't supported under Windows XP, buy a new scanner with USB connection.
Misleading or misunderstood products - you can now buy laptops that don't have batteries at all, they are designed for people who always work where there is a mains supply but want to take their PC around with them. Make sure you don't get one of these if you plan to use it on the bus! Another trend is towards using processor chips designed for desktop computers. Those designed for laptops use less electrical power - with the effect of maximising the running time on battery power. As a result they dissipate less heat so don't need the massive heat-sinks and fans you find in a desktop. Try to buy a laptop with a mobile version of processor chip (higher cost for lower processing power though). Does it matter if the laptop gets a bit hot? This guy thought not, but I expect he has changed his view "Laptop burns boffin's penis" http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/22/1037697857595.html
Of course if someone else is paying none of this matters! (apart from the burnt penis bit!). And if your heart is set on a laptop, its an emotional decision - fair enough but at least you understand the compromises you're making and the hidden cost you're committing to.
On the security issue my employer's advice to laptop users includes thinking of it as a bundle of £10 notes and watch it constantly.
kittykat 16-06-2003, 11:38 Originally posted by "robh"
This piece of crap desktop keeps crashing ... Yep - i cant wait for my laptop. :DThat could be something to do with the "quality" of Bill Gates' "great" software. You'll be running Linux on your laptop then?
No itll be windows XP cos thats whats most compatible with everything. Its not windows though its the computer i think its little fan isnt working and the insides are melting.
Tony Ruscoe 16-06-2003, 12:18 Originally posted by "robh"
Only buy a laptop if mobility is essential (and if it is essential have you considered using a PDA to supplement the desktop)...
That whole post was pretty much what I was going to type - so thanks for saving my fingers! :wink:
I was going to buy a laptop. I spent about 2 months choosing one, then finally had the phone in one hand, credit card in the other... asked when it would be delivered and changed my mind. £1600 seems a little pricey when I realised that I would never take it anywhere.
I've currently got a 6 year old PC and a Palm Vx PDA. Instead of spending £1600 on a laptop, I'm going to build a PC and buy a new PDA - and I'll probably end up only spending around £1000 then...
I have a brand new pentium four pc. but would have a laptop as well if I could afford it, as at the moment a new one would be too much to pay out on my level of income.
PaulTansley 16-06-2003, 19:18 Tony Ruscoe there is one that comes on Auction world worth 1600 which goes for about £800.
I have the lot
Laptop - Work
Desktop home
Pocket PC - IPAQ
Laptop takes for ever to boot as its 98
Desktop is great XP
IPAQ is tops - switch it on instantly, MP3's, Word, Excel and synchs with Outlook
They dont call me gadget man for nothing you know
Tony Ruscoe 16-06-2003, 20:08 Originally posted by "The Cycleracer"
Tony Ruscoe there is one that comes on Auction world worth 1600 which goes for about £800.
Yeah, but probably not the one I want :wink: (I think I'm just way too fussy...)
Mind you, even then it would still fail on all the other points mentioned by robh. I'd still rather have a desktop unless I really needed the portability.
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