There was something in the paper in the last month about Councillors stopping further student accommodation being created in Broomhill, it's at saturation point already. No more houses to be converted, no more student developments.

Not sure how we'd stand re the CRB over this and the proposed developments....I suspect we'll be there some time yet.

I heard news on this back at the beginning of 2004, and I still fail to be able to work out how the University expects to break even on what seems like an immense setup cost.

I've just finshed spending this year in Halifax Halls of Residence (it's next to the ones planned for demolition, and is very much like them in terms of facilities etc.) and I've got to say it's the best Halls I've seen - and I've seen Halls from over fifteen Universities. This Uni charges it's Halls residents around 50% more rent than most other Unis, but paying that extra was - in my opinion - money very well spent. For Halls, the rooms are excellent and the many and varied amenities around are all at a high standard.

I don't see how money will be saved in the long term as admissions will likely drop, meaning the University will have a tough job to pay back what seem like very large building costs. I really don't see the problems with the current setup.

Originally posted by Moonolt
I heard news on this back at the beginning of 2004, and I still fail to be able to work out how the University expects to break even on what seems like an immense setup cost.



The university owns more than *150 homes in areas such as Broomhill which are let out to students and are planning to sell them all to raise funds. Many are said to worth more than 250K. More than enough to fund this project with plenty of change.

*Figures are estimate but not for from that amount.

I still fail to be able to work out how the University expects to break even on what seems like an immense setup cost.

I imagine selling the land that Ranmoor currently occupies to a developer would get some petty cash in.

I really don't see the problems with the current setup.

Have you ever stayed in Ranmoor?

I guess the decisions will largely be made depending on the short-term cashflow situation. As I understand it, the University's not exactly flush at the mo...

Somebody above said Broomhill is at saturation point for students - what I understand from the proposal is that there won't be more students in Broomhill, but as 4 halls are set for definition (if I remember rightly holding at least 1600 students) then these will need to be replaced.

Obviously there are still negative issues involved here, but I don't think number of students is really set to increase.

In some ways it is a good idea, the current halls are old (at least they felt old 6 years ago when I lived in one). Students are not as keen on eating in halls, but they could do with somewhere to buy food - so a central catering idea is quite good. When i came to uni meals were good for the social aspect but after about 3 months I was busy (they only went on until 7pm) and I missed lots so not paying with rent would have been good. Plus, they're not that great.

They have it all wrong. The best place in Sheffield to build a village for students would be preferably somewhere out near Meadowhall, near the M1 (plenty of traffic cones) and preferably with 20ft high concrete walls with razor wire on the top and a shoot on site policy for any students wishing to 'escape'!!. They can be ferried in each morning on a special bus then taken back to trash their own little area. Give them a Scream pub which only accepts £2 purchases payable by Switch or cheque and everyone's happy

yes because of course all students are the scum of the earth with no respect for their area, no ambition and are draining the uk economy.....

I may be naive but how the hell did Universities get into the property development game?
It appears that public funding over the years -money paid by you and I -is now treated as private capital to establish Uni "companies".
Or have I missed something on the way?

Originally posted by HarrietStar
yes because of course all students are the scum of the earth with no respect for their area, no ambition and are draining the uk economy.....
Glad you agree :thumbsup:

Originally posted by HarrietStar
yes because of course all students are the scum of the earth with no respect for their area, no ambition and are draining the uk economy.....

Please remove your head from your arse.

Not related to t020 from Eccleshall by any chance are you? :lol:

Students are not the scum of the earth, it's students that keep this country going IMO, cos of how many are graduating and going into good jobs, and keeping the Government's precious unemployment figures down.

So please feel free to shut up about students being scum, cos they're not.. So there.

Sorry mods, I just take great offence at this person's closed-mindedness, just cos SOME students in this country seem to care more for chavvish behaviour and staying in the pub all day instead of studying, don't tar them all with the same brush :loopy:

I'm thinking there may have been a degree of sarcasm in HarrietStar's response there?

Oh no!.. lol- where am I going to live? So when exactley are these changes occuring??

Seems a great idea to give the students a nice new place to live, and free up a lot of the houses that currently being used by students that could be going to families.

I think that students are a great asset to our city... although i wouldn't really wouldn't want to live next-door to one. So it seems like a good idea, and a safe place for them to live.

Originally posted by wibbles
They have it all wrong. The best place in Sheffield to build a village for students would be preferably somewhere out near Meadowhall, near the M1 (plenty of traffic cones) and preferably with 20ft high concrete walls with razor wire on the top and a shoot on site policy for any students wishing to 'escape'!!. They can be ferried in each morning on a special bus then taken back to trash their own little area. Give them a Scream pub which only accepts £2 purchases payable by Switch or cheque and everyone's happy

You seem to have a real chip on your shoulder about students. Were you viciously attacked by one in a previous life or something?

Just out of interest at what point does your hate subside? Are you still cursing your dentist/doctor/lawyer as they provide their valuable service becuse they used to be 'student scum'?

I wish people wouldn't presume that resonable, intellegent people transform into monsters determined to ruin the city they have moved to for the three years they go off to university. Some people just seem to take issue with others having a good time whilst building a career for themselves.

I don't know is it a touch of the green eyed monster, an unexplainable fear of people who spend time in a libary or is it just narrow-minded predujice and ignorance? Good knows. Anyway, rant over.

ok, my post was sarcastic, sorry if i caused any offence. I'm a student, in broomhill, i was just expressing sarcasm in response to all the anti-student generalisations on this forum recently.

A point almost completely unrelated to the thread topic, but...

a University graduate will pay on average £50,000 more in taxes throughout their lifetime than someone leaving education from secondary level.

So there :D!...

Originally posted by Snook
Seems a great idea to give the students a nice new place to live, and free up a lot of the houses that currently being used by students that could be going to families.

I think that students are a great asset to our city... although i wouldn't really wouldn't want to live next-door to one. So it seems like a good idea, and a safe place for them to live.

It is there first time away from home for most of them and some still need a bit of looking after, some are more independent and can cope. I don't know if putting them all in one place does them any good. Did you say they want to put the facilties on a different site? That seems silly, unless it is the uni's way of making more money by charging for a service and not having to provide it as it is not used.

It would not free up a lot of houses for families because they would not be able to afford the rent. The landlords that rent to students expect £45? at least per room let so a 4 bed house(including front room) would be £180 a week. How many families would be able to afford paying £750 a month for a 3 bed house? They are quite often in poor condition as well.

The students are an asset for the city, if they were not here Sheffield would not be what it is.

We have 3 students and a teacher living next door, and they are no problem at all.

It is going very quiet up in Crookes now as they are all going home. Funny how you don't notice them too much until they go back for the summer. Though you do when they suddenly arrive back again in late September but they soon blend in.

Which is the halls on Tapton Park Road? because that appears to have been empty for a long time and is being left to ruin and vandalism, and there are some lovely old buildings on that site. And are developers not already building houses on the halls site on Ranmoor Park Rd?

Originally posted by jamesbrown
We need to scupper these rediculous plans for the sake of the students and local residents.

I wonder if the Broomhill Action Group are aware?

They would have something to say about this and the closeted way this story has leaked!

It was hardly a 'closeted story'. It was front page news of the Sheffield Telegraph!

I am sure the Broomhill Action Group are very aware of this story and are already planning numerous protests! If there is one thing they are good at it is protesting against change!

Students are a great asset to this city and lots of them stay on to work after they graduate helping raise the quality of the workforce, local companies and the economy as a whole. Why shouldn't they live in areas close to their own university - as upsetting as that may be to a few of the locals!

It sounds to me, like many of the previous posts suggest that they are creating a large student village to keep all the students together and actually please some of the locals in doing so by taking them off 'their' streets and out of next door. Creating student villages of this nature do exactly that!

No doubt the wise people at the Broomhill Action Group will jump on the opportunity to argue against this and try and force the university to build a student village elsewhere - away from 'their' leafy suburb! There have been students living in Broomhill for decades now and they have got as much right as anyone else!