Hi,

I want to get my belly button pierced soon, but I have heard that you have to undo your trousers(pants) to get it pierced. Is this true? If so how far do they undo? Do they undo the zip all the way? Does the piercer unzip them or ask you to? Is it the same for everybody?

Cheers
Laura

I'm sorry to say that I don't know...
As long as you go to a professional to get it done and not a cheap job, you should be ok and they will treat you right. I can't imagine them making you undo your trousers.. If they do, they should ask you and even then, you shouldn't have to should you not wish to.

Kind regards,
Neo.

dont lie neo, ive seen that bellybutton ring youve got LOL :lol:

Why do you want your belly pierced?

How old are you laura???
I assume you are over 16!!!

As far as i know they only need to undo your trousers if they cant get to the belly button, they have to be able to get to the skin about 2/3 inches below the belly button cos they have to clamp it.

I've had mine done for years now. I had it at feline tatoo off of ecclesall road. They were very professional and you will need to undo your trousers if its waist line is around your belly button. You can't have your skin all squashed up as (as said above) you need to get a clamp on it and your skin needs to be flat. Its nothing to worry about. It was a woman who did mine and you don't have to open them lower than your knicker line. It didn't hurt that much. The clamp hurt more than anything!
You won't be able to do your trousers up for a while afterwards. You need really baggy lose waistlines.
Try getting your bikini waxed, you have to take your trousers off for that and its far more painfall!
Goodluck :D

Originally posted by "RPG"

dont lie neo, ive seen that bellybutton ring youve got LOL :lol:

Oh you'll pay for that one.. Yes, you will.
*plots revenge* :twisted:

For anyone not picking up on RPG's sarcasm, no I don't have a bellybutton ring.. :P



Originally posted by "Andy"

Why do you want your belly pierced?

Why not? If looked after and it doesn't go all nasty, it can look pretty damn sexy!

Why do so many people with flabby bellies insist on having it done though. Laura, unless youve got a flat stomach (which im sure you have) dont bother cos it looks bloody awful otherwise. If you aint got it, dont flaunt it.
(although i personally think they look a bit too 'atomic kitten' whatever your stomach looks like)

Laura - if it rings your bell ... do it.

Pay no attention to all the nazi weightists on here....
:)

Oh come on, surely you dont like to see girls with flab hanging out to show off their navel jewellery. Show a bit of respect for those of us whod rather see it tucked away.

Girls with flab hanging out look disgusting and put me off my dinner, even if its 5 hours until tea!

Exactly why I said it CAN look sexy.. :)
I totally agree with you, on some stomachs it just doesn't work.

I hate that too... if you haven't got it please don't flaunt it. I'm not a slim Jim myself so I don't go about wearing the things some other 'big' people wear (short skirts, shorts, tight jeans etc.) I see these girls walking round town with their hips hanging over their jeans, it's just not a nice sight that's all. I'm not against people having their belly button pierced at all, and I know if I had the stomach I'd probably have it done (well I would have before the recent highly publicised www.danaid.com)

A friend of mine always wanted hers doing, her dad she could have it done if she lost 2 stone, so she did (he thought she wouldn't!) Couple of years on, she doesn't really want to show it any more!

Anyways, if you want it done, go for it.
Chloé
PS.. anyone else noticed that most of the topics I reply on end with my comment... I have a strange thing of killing a conversation! :oops:

Actually i think on MOST stomachs it doesnt work.

Originally posted by "kittykat"

Actually i think on MOST stomachs it doesnt work.

That's it isn't it? If you've got a stomach, it doesn't work, if you haven't it might. If you're over 16 then it never works. IMHO.

I'm sorry but some of you lot make me sick! Its people like you that put women under constant pressure to be thin. No wonder there are so many anorexic, bullemic, unhappy girls around. With statements like

"Girls with flab hanging out look disgusting and put me off my dinner, even if its 5 hours until tea!"

"Oh come on, surely you dont like to see girls with flab hanging out to show off their navel jewellery. Show a bit of respect for those of us whod rather see it tucked away."

I'd rather see you tucked away for saying things like that! :)

You are adding to what the media does all the time, and quite frankly I would have expected better.
Shame on you

PS When I had mine done I had a flat stomach but I didn't flaunt it that much, now my stomach isn't as flat, but if I want to show off my belly button, I will. I actually had mine pierced for my own self satisfaction, not to show off. Rather like some peoples tatoo's are personal to them. And I had mine done way way way before atomic kitten were thought of. Not that I care what anyone thinks!

Again...shame on you, think about what you say in future. You may have just caused another person to think they must starve themselves to get rid of that extra bit of 'flab'.

Im sorry but being fat is just an dangerous and being thin, and having jewellery hanging off a flabby belly doesnt look nice. Im not saying go on a diet, imjust saying that unless youve worked hard doing situps and have a nice tunny, why is there any need to show it off? im not saying go and starve yourself at all - it merely pointing out the obvious. I think curves are much nicer than skinny skeletons which is why im not on a diet myself.

I'm not exactly skinny myself and neither is my girlfriend, but we're happy with being how we are..

Yes. I never said there was anything wrong with being fat, Foxx. If people are fat though, they should realise most people don't want to see it, and cover their stomachs up so that they don't spill over their trousers. Its simple consideration really.

Simple consideration! You said it puts you off your dinner, which implies that you think there is something wrong with being fat. You should pick your words more wisely as your comments (and others peoples comments) were quite offensive. How can you protest that you never said there was something wrong with being fat in one sentence, to only follow it with "If people are fat though, they should realise most people don't want to see it, and cover their stomachs up so that they don't spill over their trousers. Its simple consideration really.". You sound like a complete racist towards overweight people.

Who doesn't want to see it? Don't put me in that category. If someone wants to show off their belly thats up to them. It doesn't bother me what people do. Why should it bother me?
So are you saying overweight people shouldn't go to beaches, incase they put someone like you off their food? Should they hide away?

Who dictates that jewellary doesn't look nice hanging off bellys of overweight people? Who says that it looks bad. You guys are all dictated to by media and society. You totally missed my point.
This has nothing to do with whether it is bad for you to be overweight/underweight or not. Besides, I heard no note of worry in any of your messages for people who are overweight. How shallow is this society.

In other countries it is the fashion to be overweight, look at belly dancers, they wobble flab around with jewellary hanging off and that is considered sexy.

Who in their right mind would want to have their belly button pierced? it is self mutilation and not a bit nice to look at in fact it is positively grotesque.

If you want to attract attention to yourself why not enhance your feminine attributes ( assuming that you are a girl ) I.E. lovely clothes, mini skirts, beautifull hair, slim figure.

These things will make mens heads turn more effectively than having your belly button pierced.

From one who appreciates feminine beauty.

>If you want to attract attention to yourself why not enhance your feminine attributes ( assuming that you are a girl ) I.E. lovely clothes, mini skirts, beautifull hair, slim figure.

These things will make mens heads turn more effectively than having your belly button pierced.<

Perhaps girls get their belly buttons pierced for their own satisfaction, and not to turn men's heads. I know it's quite a radical thought but you never know.

Foxxx you have said all I wanted to say.

Foxxx you are still not quite getting what I am trying to say. I have nothing against fat people, only against the ones that still show their body off. Some things just shouldn't be seen. As for on the beach, thats totally different to just walking around town.

PS. How on earth can one be RACIST against overweight people? Where did race enter into this discussion?

Originally posted by "halevan"

Who in their right mind would want to have their belly button pierced? it is self mutilation and not a bit nice to look at in fact it is positively grotesque.

If you want to attract attention to yourself why not enhance your feminine attributes ( assuming that you are a girl ) I.E. lovely clothes, mini skirts, beautifull hair, slim figure.

These things will make mens heads turn more effectively than having your belly button pierced.

From one who appreciates feminine beauty.

I agree halevan , it isnt nice too look at

And foxx, not liking to look at fat isnt anything like being racist. People can HELP being fat usually and dont give me any of this im depressed and cant stop eating BS, in THIS country fat is ugly because its generally regarded as unhealthy.- people are attracted to healthy features, ie, childbearing hips in women, features that show strength in men, big eyes, fat is NOT healthy, in THIS country we live in a warm enough environment to do without all that extra insulation. If i got fat id be very unhappy and thered be a certain point where id have to stop and have a rethink about what i was eating.
THey can go to beaches and do what they like but we dont have to like it - surely its a very limited few who find flab attractive?

Who are you? The fat police? What on earth has it got to do with you if someone "overweight" gets a bit of flesh out? You might be ugly as sin and people might not want to look at you, would you be happy If I told you to get a bag over your head?

i think everyone who commits crimes against fashion, like flaunting body jewellery without having a photo-model figure, should be given a medal for sticking it to the fashionistas that claim to be the arbiters of taste and what women should look like for their pleasure.

That even goes for men who wear socks and sandals at the same time, and size 16 women in black leggings. Barbara Cartland and Vivienne Westwood have the right idea.

Let it all hang out and watch the uptight people get cramp in their buttocks from too much clenching.

Originally posted by "steelblade"

Who are you? The fat police? What on earth has it got to do with you if something "overweight" gets a bit of flesh out? You might be ugly as sin and people might not want to look at you, would you be happy If I told you to get a bag over your head?

KittyLitter is certainly bitter enough to have a face like a bag of spanners. Best stay indoors Kitty...for all our sakes, you will offend everyone's aesthetic, not to mention seeing fewer lardies terrorising you with their rolling yards of purulent flesh....

The fact is, many people don't like to look at people who are overweight. Some overweight people let it all hang out - others don't because they respect what others think and / or don't want to feel like everyone's staring at them.

Similarly, some people like to smoke or swear in public - both of which are unnacceptable as far as some people are concerned. Some smokers (or foul-mouthed individuals) choose to not smoke (or swear) in public because they respect what others think and / or don't want to feel like everyone's staring at them...

Is there a difference? I think not. In some cases, weight isn't as much of a choice as people think it is... but then neither is smoking (as it's an addiction for many people)! Just because some people like it, doesn't mean everyone has to. (And there are men who have fetishes for VERY large women... or so I'm told :wink: !)

:lol:

No i wouldnt be happy if someone told me i was ugly (which has NEVER happened for the record 8) ) but at the end of the day people cant HELP what their face turns out to be like, but people CAN help being fat. Fat is unhealthy and THATs why its not nice to look at, being facially ugly is NOT. If you want to be fat, FINE, just dont expect the majority of people to think it looks nice cos it doesnt.

Originally posted by "kittykat"

No i wouldnt be happy if someone told me i was ugly (which has NEVER happened for the record 8) ) but at the end of the day people cant HELP what their face turns out to be like, but people CAN help being fat. Fat is unhealthy and THATs why its not nice to look at, being facially ugly is NOT. If you want to be fat, FINE, just dont expect the majority of people to think it looks nice cos it doesnt.

Ok, but just to clarify, it's ok for them to leave their homes and be seen in public?

And beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

And as the late great Frank Zappa said:

"all you beautiful people had better watch out cos there more of us ugly m**h**f**k**s!"

And despite evidence to the contrary it is possible to have a beautiful mind.

What people look like is utterly irrelevant, but especially satisfying when some fashion policeman gets uptight enough to post about how repulsive they find it...

Yeah they can leave their homes and do what they want, im just saying i find it UNPLEASANT to look at and its not about fashion. The current fashion seems to be stick thin with bit heads and drug addict faces, and i dont find that attractive either, its more a case of personal taste.

As Tony said, it boils down to consideration for others. Just as shouting swearwords is unacceptable to most, so too is showing off flab that is unpleasant to see. Consideration for others costs nothing, but it seems to be something that a lot of people lack these days.

You talk about consideration....well how about being considerate by not being so insulting to people who are overweight.

By the way, some people can't help being overweight, genetically born that way. Lots of scientific evidence to show that. And you don't know the circumstances as to why some people let themselves get overweight and how hard it is to loose it.
And also, a lot of people who are slim are very unhealthy, so it's not all about weight that makes you healthy or not.
I have lots of friends who are very overweight and they are such lovely people and would be very upset by your comments.

In an earlier post I referred to some of you being racist against overweight people, I used this an an anology, anyway it is you guys that keep referring to overweight people as if they are another race of species. We are all part of the human race so start accepting that everyone is different and shouldn't be ashamed of themselves.

Chill people :D

Again, no problem with them, even if they can or can't help being fat. However they should still cover flab that hangs over their trousers, it looks disgusting, and is inconsiderate.

well i don't even know what you look like or anything about you, but I'm sure you are digusting people by now with your comments and are being inconsiderate yourself!
You are of course entitled to your opinions, however, there are times when you need to learn to keep your opinions to yourself, just as you would expect someone to not swear in public, I would expect you not to be so insulting about other human beings. How would you feel if you were overweight and had just built up the confidence to wear a new outfit that might show off some flesh, only to come home and read these posts and be knocked right back down again?

Please explain why it is inconsiderate, I'm just not understanding your argument here!

By the way, is it ok for a woman to display other items of flesh that might be on the rather large side??

Its inconsiderate because the vast majority of people simply don't wish to see it! If I was fat, I'd not go around with my big belly hanging out. When buying new clothes I'd consider how much they showed first. Most bigger people don't walk around with their bellys hanging out and thats good, I have no problem with them, I'm not 'fattist'. Its those that walk around with tight jeans and the flab pouring over that clearly have no dignity or any respect for other people.

Originally posted by "t020"

Its inconsiderate because the vast majority of people simply don't wish to see it! If I was fat, I'd not go around with my big belly hanging out. When buying new clothes I'd consider how much they showed first. Most bigger people don't walk around with their bellys hanging out and thats good, I have no problem with them, I'm not 'fattist'. Its those that walk around with tight jeans and the flab pouring over that clearly have no dignity or any respect for other people.(italics mine)

You're right t020 - these fatties with flesh on display have no respect for other people. At least not those whose shallow sensibilities are reflected in their belief that they talk for the vast majority of people....

You are effectively saying that although a persons married partner may like to see their partners flesh on display on a lovely sunny day, they should be denied that very pleasure because you & people like you don't like the look of it.

Risible and Contemptible. Maybe you ought to petition the council for wardens like they had in Italy - to make people cover up if they were not of venus/adonis proportions ?

(though to be fair, most painted Venuses would have shown a roll of flab in a pair of hipsters, and very appealing it would be too)

Maybe a paper bag squad to cover faces you don't like the look of to spare you that trauma too? I think of your poor underdeveloped aesthetic muscle and the strain it must be under looking at all these repulsive things. Oh the humanity!


If you are successful with your petition for wardens, I will immediately follow suit, and petition the council for wardens on the Internet to police FLABBY THINKING by Sheffielders.

What else don't you like the look of and would have removed from our streets?

Originally posted by "Foxxx"

You talk about consideration....well how about being considerate by not being so insulting to people who are overweight.
How can saying you don't like something be insulting? I don't like smoking - does that insult smokers? I think not.
Originally posted by "Foxxx"

By the way, some people can't help being overweight genetically born that way. Lots of scientific evidence to show that.
Some people can't help swearing in public (Tourettes Syndrome) - fair enough, let them do it cos they can't help it. However, the majority of overweight people are not overweight because of genes... it's because of their history. A couple who is overweight is more likely to have an overweight child because of their lifestyle - not because of genes... and plenty of scientific evidence is out there to support this too!

I'd personally like to stop all people smoking in public, but that's not going to happen.
I'd personally like to ban boy racers from driving, but that's not going to happen.
I'd personally like to... etc... etc...

t020 would like to stop fat people wearing tight clothing in public, but that's not going to happen either!

:lol:

Anyway... I think pierced belly buttons are very nice (on the right person) :wink:.

Originally posted by "Tony Ruscoe"

You talk about consideration....well how about being considerate by not being so insulting to people who are overweight.
How can saying you don't like something be insulting? I don't like smoking - does that insult smokers? I think not.

It doesn't insult smokers because it's not directly insulting a smoker. I smoke and it doesn't bother me if someone says they don't like it, because they aren't saying they don't like me or what I look like! Its not personal it is just something I do that someone doesn't like and thats fair enough. However, stating that fat people are disgusting and should cover up, is directly insulting a person and the way they look. That is a HUGE difference. Its the same as saying you don't like people of a different race. So in that respect it is a form of racism. If someone came on here and stated they don't like black people, or asians, or white people etc that would kick up a big stink as that is racist. If someone stated that ethnic minorites shouldn't be allowed to work in this country, that would be considered to be wrong and is wrong. So why is it ok to state that you don't like fat people and they shouldn't be allowed to show their flesh off? Think about it. It IS insulting a person, and making someone out there feel very bad about themselves just because you have no feelings for them whatsoever or care if you hurt their feelings.
So to go back to what you said, you say 'How can saying you don't like something be insulting?'. Its not 'something' it is 'someone'.

Foxxx, I'm not quite sure how many times I have to say this, but I never said I didn't like fat people. I have nothing against fat people. They are just people. All I'm saying is I, and many others too, prefer them to cover up their flab, especially around their stomach. Most of them do. The ones that don't clearly lack the consideration. THATS all I'm saying.

Phanerothyme, you're one over the top guy. How you can take a few comments and turn them into a massive essay that is certainly not needed I will never know. You can read the above paragraph too. Am I not allowed to not like the look of flab?

Originally posted by "t020"

Foxxx, I'm not quite sure how many times I have to say this, but I never said I didn't like fat people. I have nothing against fat people. They are just people. All I'm saying is I, and many others too, prefer them to cover up their flab, especially around their stomach. Most of them do. The ones that don't clearly lack the consideration. THATS all I'm saying.


Why the hell do they have to be considerate? Why can't YOU be considerate to their feelings? You are not getting the point here at all. Who are all these many other people who want flab covered? What sect are you speaking for here? Who wrote the rule, that only slim people are allowed to show off their stomach's, and those that are fat must not and will get abuse for it? What planet are you from?? :lol:

I presume you're fat then?

A lot of people don't like to see flab. Kittykat and Tony are just 2 others that have mentioned similar concerns in this topic. Why should people be considerate? Its all about manners and respect for others really. Most people don't want to see flabby bellys hanging over trousers, the end.

can we all just stop arguing

you are just repeating the same points OVER and OVER

the poor thread starter will think shes got loads of advise when in reality shes got 2 pages of the same people arguing

*ignoring RPG* By pointing out that fat looks bad it could be said we're HELPING people by encouraging them to shed fat and be more healthy and active. If everyone went round being all nice about it and denying the fact that it looks bad, the rising problem of obeseity would rise even more. The biggest killer in this country is heart disease, and is there any wonder, considering the vast expanse of body some peoples hearts have to circulate.

There are more worrying things in this world... yes

Originally posted by "kittykat"

*ignoring RPG* By pointing out that fat looks bad it could be said we're HELPING people by encouraging them to shed fat and be more healthy and active. If everyone went round being all nice about it and denying the fact that it looks bad, the rising problem of obeseity would rise even more. The biggest killer in this country is heart disease, and is there any wonder, considering the vast expanse of body some peoples hearts have to circulate.

It seems we're mostly talking about women here, in which case obesity is not really much of an indicator for heart disease. For men, that spare tyre shows up as increasing the risk of heart disease, but in women, anything up to the 80th percentile of Body Mass Index has no effect on the risk at all.

Smoking bangs the risk up by 15% (over 10 years assuming all other factors normal)

Diet - Only two portions of fresh fruit or veg a week can up your risk by 10%

Lack of exercise - if you completely sedentary you increase your risk by 10%

Your age is a strong influence, and your risk is lower if you are a woman.

If you are on the pill your risk is reduced

If you have a family history of heart disease, your risk is increased.

Mainly because men don't tend to walk around with skimpy tops bearing their middriffs, but the ones that are fat and walk around with no shirt with their bellies hanging out are just as disgusting as the women that let their bellies hang out.

*crack* *pop*





time to change the record, but to sum up briefly

t020, kittykat et al think that women (and men) who are overweight to the point of not conforming to preconceived notions of beauty are disrespectful of the feelings of others (who do not want to see this 'excess' flesh displayed publicly). What is to be done with these repugnant offenders is not clear.

Me, foxx et al think that whoever you are and whatever you look like you should be able to go out in public and not be in fear of ridicule or derision, and that respect is earned and given by deeds, not appearances. So if a rubenesque woman wishes to show off her navel ornament with a bikini top and hipster shorts, that is fine.

Anyone have anything to Add to that - rather than repeat it again...?

Just that I'm glad I'm not fat, but if I was, I'd be considerate enough to cover it up from people who might be about to eat dinner!

Well isn't that nice of you, what a considerate person you are. Funnily enough though, I suspect you have never been fat, so it's quite easy to say that you would cover up. Things could be very different if you were fat......

I think Phanerothyme has said pretty much what I wanted to say. Nicely said!

I presume you're fat then?

A lot of people don't like to see flab. Kittykat and Tony are just 2 others that have mentioned similar concerns in this topic. Why should people be considerate? Its all about manners and respect for others really. Most people don't want to see flabby bellys hanging over trousers, the end.


T020, to answer you earlier post, No I'm not fat. I'm not skinny either. I am curvy and perfectly happy with that and showing it off if I choose to.
And what if I was really fat? It is a pointless question to ask me. In fact it shows that I'm not arguing here because I am fat. I am arguing because I'm not, and I don't think it is nice to make stupid, nasty comments about being put off your dinner by fat people. Some comments are best kept to yourself, especially derogatory comments like you have come out with. I am speaking as a person of normalish weight who doesn't want to be categorised in your 'vast majority of people' not wanting to see flab on people. It really doesn't bother me and why should it.
You talk about manners and respect, where is your respect and manners for overweight people? How would you like it if someone told you that you put them off their dinner and digust them. I have answered you question. The end.


Sorry RPG, you are right, this is going round and round and to be honest there is no point arguing with people like this anymore. They are really not worth my time!

Each to their own!

Originally posted by kittykat
Oh come on, surely you dont like to see girls with flab hanging out to show off their navel jewellery. Show a bit of respect for those of us whod rather see it tucked away. 150.00:clap: :clap: :clap: :hihi: :heyhey: :D

Originally posted by miniminx
150.00:clap: :clap: :clap: :hihi: :heyhey: :D

Have I missed a joke?

Alex - :)

Foxxx, i think the norm is for men to be attracted to slim figures. There's pressures on girls to be thin, yes, but it's similar to the pressure on men. The two pressures are more close than ever. It's a fact that for the majority of men, seeing a large girl wearing ill-fitting clothes IS a turn-off. I doubt very much whether anyone would comment on a girl's looks if she wore clothes which fitted her. perhaps a more accurate spin on the 'demonic' pressure emanating from the media is for girls to wear clothes proportionate to their size.

I wonder whether certain 'disparaging' comments would come from females if the standard male 'dress code' was akin to that of the females'. You too would seek men with good builds displaying tight clothes.

Piercings make ugly people look uglyer, and make good-looking people look like scumbags (Same as tatoos)

My daughters had her belly button pierced, and she got it done when she was 12years old (1month off 13)

All they did, was simply, she layed down on a chair, the piercer wiped her belly button with a cleansing wipe to clean it, then he sprayed some fluid directly onto her belly button. Thats to numb the pain.
Well once they did that, he made her stand up and he marked her with a pen.
Then she layed back down and he simply used this long sharp thing, isnt thick, it was very thin. He inserted it through her skin and push it up through the 2nd hole he had marked on her. he then put the belly button bar on the end of the thin thing which he used to pierce the skin, and then pushed the bar through the holes, then simply screwed the little ball on the bar.

She had heard allsorts of stories...like they use a hook and everything lol..but there just rumours.

She still has it pierced to this day, and its been fine.

She said it didnt hurt alot, it was just a little pain which lasted for about 3seconds. But it only hurt a tiny bit for her cos she was really tence and he needed to keep her still lol

Whereas, my daughters friend, she had it done with her at the same time (well...3minutes before her)
and she claimed it didnt hurt at all...but she was very scared, and she couldnt believe what she was fretting about!

They got it done at the 'Inkspot' down at Firth Park, they also give you an instruction sheet on how to look after the piercing etc.. and they also let you choose your first belly bar!
And it cost her £25, and shes never looked back, she loves it!

Laura no they dont make you take your trousers down or anything like that, they do advise you to wear clothing that is light and not to tight, such as a skirt (not jeans) or trackie bottoms, then all you have to do is hold your trousers/skirt down a bit so it doesnt catch the perciring!!!

Rather you than me! All sounds a bit painful and unpleasant.

Back on Topic......

Body piercing (other than ears) requires you to be over 18, not 16. (Unless you have parental permission).

They do not undo your trousers unless you are wearing Simon Cowell high waisted style as obviously they need easy access.

u dont have to be 18 for percings, i had my belly button done when i was about 13, and my beauty spot when i was 15, tattoo when i was 15,16,17 years old.!! :grin:

Originally posted by MissGobby
u dont have to be 18 for percings, i had my belly button done when i was about 13, and my beauty spot when i was 15, tattoo when i was 15,16,17 years old.!! :grin:

Then the piercer broke the law by not asking you for ID or for your parent to give permission.

BBC site (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onelife/personal/body_image/bodyart_piercing.shtml)

UK law means you have to be over 18 to be pierced or have parental consent if you're under 18

Same law applies to tattoos.

Like i said earlier in my last post, my daughter had hers done when she was 12, but i was there.

Firstly, I cannot believe the attitude on here of some of the posters! Does it not occur to you that some people have parts of their body pierced because they aren't happy with that area and do so to give themselves a reason to love it? Also, they may be comfortable with their tummies and want to enhance it. There are a myriad of reasons why people get pierced or tattooed. If it makes them happy, then go for it.

Secondly, the law is shady as to legal age of consent. For most places it is 16 without a guardian being present, but photo ID WILL be required OR a parent/legal guardian being present to verify that persons age. I personally don't pierce minors, full-stop, but the studio where I trained in London would do so only if a parent/LEGAL guardian was present and the piercer was happy that the piercee was developed enough (esp in the case of navel piercings) and mature enough to follow the aftercare advice given. In london, there are very strict licincing laws surrounding piercing. The rest of the country has yet to adopt these, but the times they are a-changing! Guidelines vary from local authority to local authority.

Finally, if you go to your appointment wearing traousers that are fitted below the waistline, you shouldnt have to undo them. You may be asked to undo your belt and possible the top button of your jeans if it is going to obstruct the piercers hand.. a small price to pay for a straight piercing. You may be asked to roll your top up so your midriff is showing. You should be asked to stand up for the marking and lay down for the piercing. Technique varies from piercer to piercer. I use needle blades as oppposed to cannulas as there is usually less bleeding and do believe I am one of the only piercers in sheffield to offer this technique. But dont just walk into any studio, do your research, get the phone book out, talk to the piercers and you will get a feel as to who is right. I am currently working from Eternal Ink on West Street and would be happy to answer any questions :)

Jeez! I should preview first! My spelling is atrocious!

Hi
How long befor you can go swimming in the sea or pool after you have had your belly button piecing:help: :help:

Didn't have to undo my trousers!

I think it's only if you're wearing particularly high waisted trousers.

Originally posted by MISSZ11
Hi
How long befor you can go swimming in the sea or pool after you have had your belly button piecing:help: :help:

I can't remember, I think it depends on the person - Filthfan went swimming straight after and it got infected, I went and it helped it to heal.

Don't use TCP

Do use salt water

Originally posted by Lotti
I can't remember, I think it depends on the person - Filthfan went swimming straight after and it got infected, I went and it helped it to heal.

Don't use TCP

Do use salt water

And make sure you use the correct ratio of salt to water. Dont use table salt, use natural sea salt. Table salts full of chemical crap that yo dont want. And use a quarter teaspoon of salt in a mug of warm water. Make sure its fully dissolved (dont want any sharp bits of salt getting inside the hole and irritating it). And, if you can taste the salt in the water, youve used too much. It should taste like tears. Soak the piercing with it for about 5 minutes, then use a cotton bud to move any crusty bits off it. DONT rotate the jewellry, you could pull sharp bits of scab into the hole and damage it. And, whatever you do, never touch it without washing your hands first.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
*crack* *pop*





time to change the record, but to sum up briefly

t020, kittykat et al think that women (and men) who are overweight to the point of not conforming to preconceived notions of beauty are disrespectful of the feelings of others (who do not want to see this 'excess' flesh displayed publicly). What is to be done with these repugnant offenders is not clear.

Me, foxx et al think that whoever you are and whatever you look like you should be able to go out in public and not be in fear of ridicule or derision, and that respect is earned and given by deeds, not appearances. So if a rubenesque woman wishes to show off her navel ornament with a bikini top and hipster shorts, that is fine.

Anyone have anything to Add to that - rather than repeat it again...?

excellent, well put.

Originally posted by t020
As Tony said, it boils down to consideration for others. Just as shouting swearwords is unacceptable to most, so too is showing off flab that is unpleasant to see. Consideration for others costs nothing, but it seems to be something that a lot of people lack these days.


what if we find you ugly to look at - u gonna put a bag on your head as a sign of consideration for others.

Originally posted by Lotti
Didn't have to undo my trousers!

Like I said, if your attire is going to obstruct the piercers hand during the procedure, you may be asked to undo your button or belt buckle.

Originally posted by MISSZ11
Hi
How long befor you can go swimming in the sea or pool after you have had your belly button piecing:help: :help:

Swimming in the sea is ok.. after all it contains natural sea salt! I would avoid swimming in the baths for at least the first 8 weeks if not longer as the chlorine in the water can cause irritation. Remember, a navel piercing takes roughly a year to heal, sometimes longer, and they are prone to rejection if they become irritated.

i really want my belly done too but even of you do have a bit of fat there isnt any problem its your belly and you life not ours do what you like im just trying to persuade my parents

hope i helped jaz

I presume you're fat then?

A lot of people don't like to see flab. Kittykat and Tony are just 2 others that have mentioned similar concerns in this topic. Why should people be considerate? Its all about manners and respect for others really. Most people don't want to see flabby bellys hanging over trousers, the end.
For gods sake look away............what a stupid argument! :loopy:

*ignoring RPG* By pointing out that fat looks bad it could be said we're HELPING people by encouraging them to shed fat and be more healthy and active. If everyone went round being all nice about it and denying the fact that it looks bad, the rising problem of obeseity would rise even more. The biggest killer in this country is heart disease, and is there any wonder, considering the vast expanse of body some peoples hearts have to circulate.
No that is a really stupid thing to think, all that does is destroy a persons self confidence and esteem and makes them distrust the rest of humanity.
Heart disease affects many people and is far more complicated than being overweight, almost all of the people i know with heart problems have been slim.

I'm assuming that two threads have been linked here as apparently I have replied! In which case, sorry Badhairdo! I replied to the thread that was merged in and not the one that you had given excellent advice on!

As far as this silly weight issue goes. Personally, I'd rather not see anyone wearing ill fitting clothes.
I have put on a little bit of weight but I'm not fat but I wouldn't even dream of wearing ill fitting clothes.

I think the sad thing is, overweight teens feel that the only thing they can wear that is sexy is the revealing clothes, when they would look far sexier (in my opinion) wearing something less revealing that enhanced their better assets rather than their fat.

I have a large swollen, purple birthmark on my leg and I choose to cover it up. That's my choice. I could wear a mini skirt and think 'sod em' but I know that I wouldn't look as attractive as I would if I were to wear a nice pair of trousers or a long skirt.

I am pretty flat chested so I don't wear clothes for big busted people.

Why argue about what you have/haven't got? Just make the most of what you have got!

If you enjoy showing off your fat then do so but I know that the majority of people (teenagers especially) who wear revealing clothes despite being overweight only do it because they don't realise they could look so much nicer in something else! Mainly because of the medias attention on 'fashion'.

On the other hand though I don't like seeing stick-thin girls wearing mini skirts and backless tops etc. they look just as unhealthy as overweight girls.

I have nothing against anyone because of the way they look, I just feel that some people wear the 'wrong' things for their figure.

If that's how you're comfortable wear it, but don't cut off your nose to spite your face. If you're not comfortable like it, don't wear it just to show others you can!

hi I'm 15 and i pierced my belly button about 3 weeks ago and it looks good but i have a problem and that is if my mom finds out she will kill me and i don't have a belly button ring to put in it cause right now i have a tongue ring in it i have tried to buy a belly ring but the girl told me i couldn't buy it cause i had to be 18 so i left so can anyone help me get a belly ring if so contact me at my email address lil_brat_9113@yahoo.com please and i have another problem too. it is that my friend is having a pool party and my parents are going to be there to and i don't know if i should risk it and get in and have the risk of my mom see it or don't get in and not have any fun with my friends and them constantly ask me y i wont get in so what do i do

Hi,

I want to get my belly button pierced soon, but I have heard that you have to undo your trousers(pants) to get it pierced. Is this true? If so how far do they undo? Do they undo the zip all the way? Does the piercer unzip them or ask you to? Is it the same for everybody?

Cheers
Laura

send your belly button to me, ill do it and send it back first class post

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"Laura Babe"

I have had mine done for 3 years now and LOVE it!

I wore a short top which made things easier but if you wear histers or something you wont need to undo your zip or anything at all.

Plus it doenst hurt in the slightest which is wonderful any questions PM me :)

"lil brat" - Crystal Peaks gold shop (Can't remember what its called) will let you but one.

Also the place in the Lanes at M'hall will too.

Better you have the right thing in thier to start with. I have a bar which is less hassle.

we dont have any of those kinds of shops around here so i dont know where to get one from