Waldmeister
01-02-2003, 09:43 PM
Can anyone please give me information about a flood in Sheffield in the 1800's when a large number of people lost their lives?
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View Full Version : Sheffield Flood Waldmeister 01-02-2003, 09:43 PM Can anyone please give me information about a flood in Sheffield in the 1800's when a large number of people lost their lives? thanks MichelleJG 01-02-2003, 11:19 PM I have a Word document which is taken from website, it is a copy of a book written at the time of the flood. It tells what caused the flood and the damaged caused as the water made its way down the Loxley valley, through Sheffield and onto Rotherham and Doncaster. Email martyn41@btopenworld.com if you want it. Or do a search on Google, thats where I found it. Lickszz 20-02-2003, 01:36 AM Originally posted by "Waldmeister" Can anyone please give me information about a flood in Sheffield in the 1800's when a large number of people lost their lives? thanks This link maybe some help to you. http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1ma/flood/flood.html#books Tricia 22-02-2003, 08:45 PM You can get info from Bradfield Parish Council, Low Bradfield , Sheffield S6 6LB Guest 23-02-2003, 05:06 PM Agood book is The Dramatic Story of The Sheffield Flood by Peter Machan ISBN 1901587053. I believe that there is an exibition on the Sheffield Flood at Kelham Island Museum in Sheffield. Mo karenl823 22-04-2003, 10:03 PM Hi I am researching all the victims of the Sheffield Flood (12th March 1864) and have a considerable amount of information about each family affected. At the time it was recorded that 240 people died but I actually believe 290 people died as a direct result of the flood, although some of these died afterwards of the effects suffered that night. I am trying to contact anyone who is descended from a flood victim but will happily pass on details of any family to anyone interested. Please contact me if you want any further details Karen Lightowler Waldmeister 13-07-2003, 09:02 PM :blush: Apologies to all for not getting back on this subject earlier. New to the computing game. Karen 828 I would like to communicate with you on this as I have a walking stick with an inscription Geo.Dyson on the collar and on the other side "Sheffield Flood 12th March 1861 260 lives lost". thankyou and apologies again. rawaldmeister@compuserve.com:blush: tiffy 19-01-2004, 10:16 PM http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1ma/flood/book/contents.html Indigogo 12-02-2004, 10:24 AM Originally posted by Waldmeister Can anyone please give me information about a flood in Sheffield in the 1800's when a large number of people lost their lives? thanks Sheffield Flood 1864 (http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1ma/flood/photogal/picflud1.html) bluebird62 16-02-2004, 10:16 AM Dear Waldmeister Hi the year that the sheffield flood happened was in 1864 on the 11th march, it was the dale dyke dam which burst caused by a crack in the wall of the dam. this caused 250 human deaths. along with the lives of animals and buildings and works. if you are intrested please look up " askjeeves.co.uk" and type in the sheffield flood 1864 or try this search- This link may also be of some help to you. i am sorry but the last url was wrong. http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal...flood.html#books or - htpp://www.askjeeves.co.uk and then type in- sheffield flood 1864 . you can also get books from the library about these books as there are quiet a few. on this site you will also be able to download an e-book on the sheffield flood. most ineresting. if you would like to know anything else please ask. and i will try to help. thank you. julie PopT 20-02-2004, 07:34 AM At the Bradfield Parish Council Offices in Low Bradfield there is an archive containing information on the flood of 1864. There are books on sale about the subject. Malcolm Nunn the Archivist there is a much informed and respected local historian and has a large knowledge of the flood, he has lectured on the subject and is most helpful to anyone interested. Please note the Archive is only open to the general public every Thursday (All Day) when Mr Nunn will be in attendance. I hope this helps any interested parties. Pop T fuzbuz 20-02-2004, 11:24 AM http://www.picturesheffield.com/cgi-bin/hpac.pl heres some pictures of the mailin bridge in it was left standing after the flood you can search other pic on here 2 fuzbuz 20-02-2004, 11:25 AM sos that ink isnt working if you go to www.picturesheffield.com and search for mailin bridge inn on M youll get it. little malc 28-02-2004, 04:10 PM My Grandmother was born in Bradfield at the time of the flood. Her name was Lydia Ibbotson, she was born in bradfield village a few days before the flood. Her father's name was Richard Ibbotson. My mother had the orriginal flood book, I have a copy. It's called A Complete History of the Great Flood at Sheffield by Samuel Harrison. In it is a chapter called the remarkable Dream. Which is about a dream my great grand mother had the night before the flood. Norma Smith JDee 11-03-2004, 07:33 AM Originally posted by Indigogo Sheffield Flood 1864 (http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1ma/flood/photogal/picflud1.html) Great website. 140 years ago today - what a rumbling nightmare. deano 11-03-2004, 05:03 PM My seven year old daughter has just returned from school,i asked if her teacher had mentioned the flood,(with it being 140 yrs ago today) but no,not even a whisper,i know there is a curiculam(sp) to adhere to,but surely this warranted a mention,its a big part of our history,if it wasnt for me and her mum she may never have heard about it. JDee 11-03-2004, 05:52 PM Originally posted by deano My seven year old daughter has just returned from school,i asked if her teacher had mentioned the flood,(with it being 140 yrs ago today) but no,not even a whisper,i know there is a curiculam(sp) to adhere to,but surely this warranted a mention,its a big part of our history,if it wasnt for me and her mum she may never have heard about it. Yes - it's all about Maths, Science and English for the SATS tests. little malc 12-03-2004, 01:48 PM The flood was actually mentioned on Look North last night (11th) quite good coverage, sad that a big city like Sheffield does not have any official plaque or monument to this event, the biggest disaster ever to happen in Sheffield. BILL FURNESS 26-07-2006, 02:14 PM "]the sheffields flood of 1864 does anyone know if this affected stannington[/COLOR][/B] DavidRa 27-07-2006, 12:56 AM "]the sheffields flood of 1864 does anyone know if this affected stannington[/COLOR][/B] I am not sure of the Stannington boundary but it seems to be on the hill rather than the valley so I doubt it HughW 27-07-2006, 01:02 AM Try going to the Flood Claims Archive (http://extra.shu.ac.uk/sfca/) and searching for Stannington. Despite its location there may be claims for loss of wages by people who lived in Stannington but worked in the valleys. Hugh skippy 29-07-2006, 11:51 AM Isn't there a plaque somewhere on the Wicker Arches about it, & a mark to show the height of the water? my Mother pointed it out to me over 50 years ago. bluebird62 30-07-2006, 10:31 AM Isn't there a plaque somewhere on the Wicker Arches about it, & a mark to show the height of the water? my Mother pointed it out to me over 50 years ago. HI skippy, which side is this plaque please. the reason i am asking is because the only plaque i have seen is the big plaque of the railway workers who did during the war , this is on the same side as the lift upto the victoria station and toilets. skippy 31-07-2006, 02:59 AM Can't remember Bluebird, it was 60 years ago, might have been removed when they sandblasted the arch's many years ago. lolalola 31-07-2006, 02:40 PM Hi, I remember doing loads of work and research on the flood when I was at middle school in the mid 80's. We went on regular trips around the Bradfield area and I loved every minute of it. Our teacher at the time (Mike Lydiot) at Limpsfield school was very well up on the subject. I remember the whole class climbing over a fence onto some private property just to get a quick glimpse of the original stone that marked the corner of the dam. I have forgotten so much about it but loved those school trips. I'd also love to know where Mr.Lydiot ended up, if anyone has any info please let me know. BILL FURNESS 06-08-2006, 07:38 PM we looked in the FLOOD CLAIMS ARCHIVES and found one of our relatives click this in HUGHS kind reply its very interesting..its time for the council to get a memorial stone.. bluebird62 06-08-2006, 07:48 PM :blush: Apologies to all for not getting back on this subject earlier. New to the computing game. Karen 828 I would like to communicate with you on this as I have a walking stick with an inscription Geo.Dyson on the collar and on the other side "Sheffield Flood 12th March 1861 260 lives lost". thankyou and apologies again. rawaldmeister@compuserve.com:blush: Hello Waldmeister, i do not know of a flood in 1861, but i do know of a GREAT SHEFFIELD FLOOD IN 1864. when the dale dyke dam burst its banks. is this the flood you mean. BILDEBORG 23-09-2006, 06:47 PM I lost several family members in the great flood, particularly the Trickett family of Malin Bridge where 3 generations of the same family were washed away .....the mother being found days later in Rotherham!!! If you look at some of the flood claims you will get some sort of idea how utterly devastating this disaster was both to the local and wider community. Here are some contamporary reports relating to this family. "The prosperous house and farm of James Trickett was destroyed with all ten inhabitants. A mother clinging to a lamppost with one hand and her little girl with the other, saw her eleven year old son who had been grasping her skirts, swept away and drowned by the deluge." "The old man Kay was the father of Mrs. Trickett, and up to the day of the flood he used to live in a house of his own at View Fold, on the other side of the hill. On the Wednesday in the same week, he buried his wife, and, having no one to live with him or keep his house, he gave up housekeeping on his own account on Friday, and went to live with his son in law, Mr. Trickett. On the very same night the flood came, and swept him away. It is melancholy to think that his domestic bereavement and change of residence should have been so immediately followed by the loss of his own life. The manner in which the Tricketts met their fate can only be matter of conjecture." There are literally hundreds of such comments relating to those who suffered and I am so surprised that the City Fathers have done so little to recognise this sad event. I believe there is/was a small monument at City Road cemetery but nothing else. Karen Lightowler (a member of SF) has done some fantastic research into this and I do think that maybe her plan is to ask for some such recognition. karenl823 09-01-2007, 07:55 PM :blush: Apologies to all for not getting back on this subject earlier. New to the computing game. Karen 828 I would like to communicate with you on this as I have a walking stick with an inscription Geo.Dyson on the collar and on the other side "Sheffield Flood 12th March 1861 260 lives lost". thankyou and apologies again. rawaldmeister@compuserve.com:blush: Hello all and sincere apologies particularly to Waldmeister. Several years ago I posted numerous messages on various sites across the internet about my interest in the victims of the Sheffield Flood. I also posted one to this list in April 2003 and in July 2003 Waldmeister replied to my message. Between those dates I had a disc crash on my PC. When I eventually got back up and running I had lost all the links to my favourite sites and clearly this is one that I had not rediscovered. Having now found this site once again I would like to sincerely apologise to Waldmeister for not having replied as I am extremely interested to hear about the wonderful “flood relic” you have. I do hope we can make contact as I would love to hear more. I would also love to hear from anyone who is descended from anyone who died [or even from someone lucky enough to survive]. I am also happy to pass on any details I have about any of those who died in and after the flood. I will also happily check to see if your ancestors may have been involved. If anyone reads this message at any point in the future, please feel free to contact me directly on the email address below. Thanks Karen Lightowler KarenL823@aol.com Waltheof 09-01-2007, 11:42 PM A number of the victims are buried in the General Cemetery, and in fact the engineer of the dam itself, John Gunson, is also buried there. Although at the public enquiry he was exonerated from any blame, he was very much affected by the tragedy and never got over it. He lived (and died) in a house on Clarkson St (near the West End pub) which now houses students. karenl823 10-01-2007, 12:34 AM Hi Waltheof That's right and Samuel Harrison [who wrote the book about the flood at the time] is also buried at General Cemetery. I find it really sad though that both have much grander memorials than many of the poor souls who drowned. Many were even given paupers burials. karenL823 Gerry 10-01-2007, 03:38 AM Try this http://www.mick-armitage.staff.shef.ac.uk/sheffield/flood.html karenl823 26-05-2007, 02:41 PM Hi there I am just posting another message as I am keen to make contact with Waldmeister as I would love to hear more about the wonderful flood relic. I would also love to hear from anyone who is descended from anyone who died [or even from someone lucky enough to survive]. I am also happy to pass on any details I have about any of those who died in and after the flood. I will also happily check to see if your ancestors may have been involved. If anyone reads this message at any point in the future, please feel free to contact me directly on the email address below. Karen Lightowler KarenL823@aol.com Researching the Victims of the Sheffield Flood Ant 26-05-2007, 05:10 PM There's a very interesting section of the Sheffield Geneaology website that deals with the flood. Well worth a look: Sheffield Geneology: The Sheffield Flood (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~engsheffield/k_lightowler/a_lightowler.htm) --------------------------------------------------------- One of my relatives made a flood insurance claim (http://www2.shu.ac.uk/sfca/claimSummary.cfm?claim=5-4728) for the damage done to his photography shop. He claimed £3 18s 6d but was only granted £2, bless him. hollypmi 28-05-2007, 01:59 PM Hi all, I have a copy of a book about the Sheffield Flood, written by Samuel Harrison, and published in April 1898, complete with adverts of the day, ie pianos from 25 guineas, and mens tweed trousers from 3s/11d. Makes very interesting reading ... karenl823 28-05-2007, 06:00 PM The link left by Ant was something I wrote many years ago and is an extremely small part of my research. If anyone is interested in finding out if any of their ancestors were involved I will happily pass on any information I have about any family. Please contact me. Karen Lightowler KarenL823@aol.com karenl823 28-05-2007, 06:01 PM Hi Hollypmi I too have a copy of this book and it sure is fascinating! Karen Lightowler KarenL823@aol.com http://www.lulu.com/content/723780 Tuppie 28-05-2007, 09:53 PM Hi All I also have an illustrated copy of Harrisons book. Did you know that you can also download or buy the book that Karen Lightowler has written as a result of her research into the aftermath of the flood. It is available at www.lulu.com/uk Kind Regards Tuppie.....:) wuduswitch 29-05-2007, 07:59 PM Hi everyone, if it's any use to anyone joseph barker, a sheffield flood victim, is buried in st. marys churchyard Handsworth S13 and there is a small monument to the victims in the woods above the dam. kind regards Mike Lydiat 12-03-2008, 09:47 PM March 12th 1864 must have been even worse weather than March 12th 2008. On March 11th that year the Dale Dyke Dam burst its banks, leading to flooding as far down-stream as Rotherham and the loss of about 250 lives. I wonder how many Sheffielders have realised the significance of today's date? The best web site I have found about the Great flood (still in the Guiness Book of Records as the worst dam disaster in England) is h t t p:// www . mick-armitage . staff.shef.ac.uk/sheffield/flood . html (Take out the extra spaces from the web address) Mike Lydiat 12-03-2008, 09:53 PM Isn't there a plaque somewhere on the Wicker Arches about it, & a mark to show the height of the water? my Mother pointed it out to me over 50 years ago. I found the one in the Hillsborough Barracks the other day - look on the wall on the right just before you go into Morrisons - about 8 feet up. depoix 12-03-2008, 10:19 PM I found the one in the Hillsborough Barracks the other day - look on the wall on the right just before you go into Morrisons - about 8 feet up. there is also one on the front of the pub in hillsbro' shakespear i think it is,as for the walking stick,there is a small display in the weston park museum regarding the great flood,and it also has a walking stick ,amongst other things |